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I had the idea to make the set of omni directional bookshelf speakers for more than a year. After my brother gave me his old 5'' BMW spare midranges and tweeters, the experiments could start
Speakers are made out of 12mm Baltic birch plywood, all parts are cut on LowRider2 CNC from V1 engineering. Dispersion cone was printed with a 3D printer, PLA filament. Cone angle simulated in Ray Optics Simulator - ricktu288.github.io/ray-optic.... Speaker covers are wrapped in cotton twine. The reel to reel machine is an AKAI 4400D
Feel free to express your thoughts about the project - you can share it down in the comment section! There are many aspects, where my know-how is lacking, when building this type of speaker enclosure..
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Placebo - Pure Morning
• Placebo - Pure Morning...
FleetWood Mac - Beautiful Child
• Beautiful Child (2015 ...
Chris Jones - Thank You (R.J. Reynolds)
• Thank You (R.J. Reynolds)
Sun Kil Moon - I Can't Live Without My Mother's Love
• I Can't Live Without M...

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Комментарии : 51   
@jasonmelo9379
@jasonmelo9379 Год назад
Ooh sun kil moon! And that's my favorite Fleetwood Mac song!
@Burythelie
@Burythelie Год назад
Cool build! I've been wanting to make my own omni speakers and this gives me some great ideas! The speakers really look great as well. Props for Sun Kil Moon too
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Thank you :) This was not a serious build by any means, just a fun experiment. But I'm still using these speakers at my workshop, and they get the job done :D
@future62
@future62 3 года назад
I feel like this enclosure with a nice full range driver and proper EQ would be amazing
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Yeah, this was more like a proof of concept. I am still planning to do a proper build with damped enclosure, better drivers and all the jazz. But the sound and feel that I got out even from these small speakers is something else!
@1moderntalking1
@1moderntalking1 Год назад
Good effort mate 👍
@JohnHorneGuitar
@JohnHorneGuitar 9 месяцев назад
Great ideas. I play solo guitar and find that traditional guitar amps are very directional. Something like this would be a great solution!
@TheDwarvenDefender
@TheDwarvenDefender Год назад
I've just gotten my first decent speakers recently. I couldn't afford a good full surround sound set yet, but the salesman talked me into buying a pair of speakers with an integrated amplifier to hold me over until I could. (Hearing the demo unit in the store in-action was what really sold me, though.) The sound quality is so delightful that I don't want to play any games with great soundtracks in the middle of the night when I can't use these speakers for fear of disturbing my neighbors, and it sounds much better having actual distance from the speakers than even with my open-back headphones. (GRADO SR60X.) However, the audio balance doesn't sound right unless I put my head in a very specific spot. I don't know whether it's the speakers that are the problem, or my placement of them, or that I need to get more (for surround sound,) or the fact that I have them mounted on cardboard boxes instead of stands... At the risk of having my purchasing decision judged, I'll tell you the model: YU4 from Kanto.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
The listening experience more often than not, is a very subjective feeling - I know some guys that do professional PA system speakers, that insist on the perfect listening position for their system. Others tell you that you need to DSP the hell out of your speakers before it can be enjoyed at all. And again some are true ''audiophiles'' that just chant ''absolute truths'' they have read in forums, without trying to investigate the physics behind the words. And, yes, there are also newbies (like me, maybe) that try to hide inefficiencies of their speaker sets with phrases, that listening experience is very subjective :D The truth lies somewhere in between. I feel like omni is the right direction, and that classical stereo bookshelf speakers are not meant for everyone. Maybe the discomfort you are feeling is for this reason. Maybe it could be cured with some DSP or some acoustic treating for the listening area. Currently I am experimenting with some DML speaker designs and have some ideas for better omni speakers. But for sure, I will never build a classical stereo bookshelf speaker set ever again :D
@sebahattin1906
@sebahattin1906 3 года назад
What a nice engineering !
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Thank you 😊
@vicentvanmole
@vicentvanmole Год назад
thanks for sharing . great information .
@geraldhaller9906
@geraldhaller9906 Год назад
Coole Idee ich würde es mal mit einem Breitbänder versuchen da die typischer Weise gebündelt abstrahlen und man dies dann besonders gut aufbrechen kann mit einem Kegel oder Kugel . Sieht auch sehr gut aus .
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Yep, full range driver would be better and also would eliminate the tweeter mount bracket. Thank you!
@BargainSavage
@BargainSavage 3 года назад
Nice building and very nice equipment.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Thank you! :)
@zygmuntmalarz2504
@zygmuntmalarz2504 Год назад
Perfect job.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Thank you!
@billyjukes832
@billyjukes832 4 года назад
Fun project. A few tips, - that cone will not be seen as "rigid" over the entire frequency range, especially upper. I've made waveguides out of 3D printed PLA and PET-G but only for midrange as the FEA modelling suggested the structures stiffness to act non-linearly in the upper frequency range (depends on infill, size, shape etc). This will mean the cone is likley to resonante and absorb energy in certain areas at different frequencies and re-radiate over the inital signal and diffract. You will see this effect in the phase and group delay results as they are likely to look all over the place when this happens and may explain the random dips in your frequency response. You will also see random streaks in your waterfall plot. To reduce this, try ideally making the cone out of a solid ,dense and stiff material, (cast metal, concrete etc) or 3D print the cone, line with a thin compliant material such as silicone and fill up with concrete or plaster of paris, or at least print with 100% infil. The 2nd option will help dampen any resonance through shearing. - it's probably boomy due to the use of 12mm ply without bracing and an incorrectly tuned box/port. Again the resonances of the panels can causes interference and errors in reproduction. Try bracing the box a lot and try a different volume and port size. If you can measure the drivers parameters try using winISD to design the optimum box - don't measure with 2 coherent sources playing at once (both speakers). You will get phase interference giving an incorrect reading that will look like a comb filter.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 4 года назад
Thank you for your feedback :) You are probably right about the cone material - I will try to fill it with silicone and concrete and measure, if there is any change. For the box design itself in the beginning I had in mind a bigger box, for 6.5'' coaxial drivers, where the box itself could be mounted either driver facing the listener, or in omnidirectional orientation with cone attachment. The box would be closed, have either sand infill in wall cavities or have a concrete sphere as the internal volume. As the box would be relatively huge and heavy, I postponed the design. But I was still curious, how the omnidirectional speakers would sound. One of these days I will build a proper box :D
@billyjukes832
@billyjukes832 4 года назад
Nice one. Look forward to seeing the process
@sentezle1090
@sentezle1090 Год назад
Have you tried filling the cone with sand?
@truongdean6761
@truongdean6761 3 года назад
Really cool thanks 😊
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@d3tach3d
@d3tach3d 3 года назад
Amazing. Id love to have the time, resources, and knowledge to be able to make custom speakers. It just sounds like such a fun thing to do. I freakin love audio and have some decent equipment but nothing DIY, except the Hivi 3.1a which is a kit but they sound amazing for their price, even now. I want some Omnis, so bad.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 Год назад
I heard a Di-Pole Ribbon Tweeter, that fired in 360 degrees. It had that same Airness.. BUT... it caused all sorts of odd Distortions, because the highs were bouncing from every direction, and getting back to your ears at different time-frames. Sort of like an Echo effect... and ultimately.. it ruined the music. In my Opinion, rather than use a full cone... Use a Half Cone shape... so that the sound only emanates 180 degrees. That will limit the distortion of the image, drastically. Other than that... I always recommend using Sealed woofer boxers with higher powered drivers. OR... next best option, is using a sealed box, with a passive radiator. Both of those options will produce bass that does not sound "Artificial" and "Boomy"... which happens from Ported designs. But as said.. if you make a sealed box (non Passives), you need drivers with stronger magnets, and stronger coils... to be able to deal with the higher Air-Pressure levels. Otherwise, there will be no benefit.. and might even sound worse. (With the proper Passive setup, you dont really have to worry about that as much). The added benefit, is that a stronger speaker driver... will be Far more Accurate, and far less likely to Distort... even at its max potentials. Eco drivers are too weak... and so they often cant accelerate (and stop) fast enough to keep up with the musical demands (which causes the muddying distortions). Ohh, and since the speakers are near the wall... might as well have the Woofers Forwards-Facing... rather than pointing upwards, which likely will distort the highs. I theorize that it would be best to use a more Dense + Heavy material, for the half-cones, rather than plastic. I do wonder how a Curved shaped cone might change the Image projection.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Thank you for detailed opinion! I agree, sealed woofers would definitely sound better. And yes, I agree that more dense cones probably would perform better, but the ones I have now also do quite well, at least to my ear. I still have plans to make upgraded version of this set using concrete cones and proper coaxial driver Regarding the curved cone - I did some tests with curved cones and the result was disappointing, as seen in the video. After some ray tracing modelling and real life tests, straight cones seem to deliver best and even dispersion without lensing effects and unwanted distortion Now at my listening position, the ''rear'' of the speakers fire in the curtains of my workshop, canceling most of the reflections. Although 180 degree design probably would be the best for my use, the 360 design let's me place the speakers as omni if I chose so, leaving the option open
@sentezle1090
@sentezle1090 Год назад
Maybe try filling the cone with sand.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Will try it :)
@abe4781
@abe4781 Год назад
Wow awesome
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Thanks :)
@C-man553
@C-man553 2 месяца назад
Damp the cones.
@williamnix484
@williamnix484 Год назад
I want o build my first pair of speakers. I want to build a pair of omnidirectional speakers so I am watching all I can. Even over the phone I can say yours sound very good. I'd like to take a Crack at a larger pair.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Hey! Thank you for kind words :) If I would ever make a pair of omnidirectional speakers again, I would go for full-range drivers to simplify the build. Also, would make the reflection cone rigid, from concrete or something similar. Be sure to check out other comments below this video, there were a lot of good suggestions from others too! Good luck with your build!
@earlfenwick
@earlfenwick 3 года назад
I really like your build! I have a lot of interest in omni-directional speakers and am looking for a project like this. Yamaha makes some really nice ceiling speakers (IC-400,600,800 etc) that look very much like a car speaker-they start at $100 a pair and I think they might be a good candidate for putting into a box. i’ll subscribe and see what you come up with next.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Thank you! I will take a look at the Yamaha drivers you mentioned. I'm still planning to build a proper pair of speakers, with damped enclosure walls, more rigid sound lense and a custom crossover. Hope 2021 will be more friendly towards these kinds of projects
@d3tach3d
@d3tach3d 3 года назад
Thank you! I love Omnis yet no one sells them. You either got to DIY them or Pay for the high end ones. The OHM walshes are amazing but im not sure if theyre considered omnies. Anyways, The market needs Omnis! They create such an amazing sound field and would be great for home theatre surround applications and even stereo setups like these. Amazing build BTW. How did you source those cones. There not a common part neither is it possible to find them in the size you want for a build so it seems a 3D printer is a must.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
I would love to hear the Ohm Walshes, if anything, just to hear how the Pros do it :D I made the cones myself on the 3D printer
@d3tach3d
@d3tach3d 3 года назад
@@KarlisZalitis Of course the best speaker reviewer ever "Z reviews" is who I found those from. His reviews are always the best rambles but so entertaining. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y_8xUDYBgZQ.html&ab_channel=ZReviews
@Domiplayer7766
@Domiplayer7766 3 года назад
How much cotton yarn did you use for it? I plan to make similar columns but 1 meter high :P
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
I believe it was 200m but it depends on the thickness of the yarn. 1m high would sure look nice!
@toddlee2571
@toddlee2571 3 года назад
I am wondering if it might be better if the cone was more curve linear
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
I guess this somewhat depends on the final placement of the speakers and where the listening position will be. At the moment I am using 50 degree off axis cone, works somewhat decent for me, but other angles can be chosen too. I was using the Ray Optics Simulator to eyeball the approximate deflection angle, you can play with it your self, to see how this would affect the results :)
@jetwayartisman
@jetwayartisman Год назад
Couldn’t find the stl files in the link provided please update or upload the files,thanks
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis Год назад
Hey! Sorry, but the cad files for this build are not available, as the design still has some kings to iron out before making it public
@jamesroebuck5911
@jamesroebuck5911 2 года назад
You want to fill that cone with lead, not fluff, the idea being that your sound hits the cone and then spreads out evenly all round the speakers
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 2 года назад
Yep, others have commented that too and I totally agree. It has to be heavy and rigid AF to reduce unwanted resonances
@perrywright1555
@perrywright1555 3 года назад
Excellent idea, and fascinating build, but for prospective builders, look at "dock piling caps". Virtually identical to what he did with a 3D printer, cheap and commonly available. We are working on a similar concept for a guitar speaker. As a long time guitar player, having played on many stages in many clubs, a typical guitar amp projects like a laser beam, in one direction, and very little dispersion to cover the stage. An omnidirectional guitar speaker can play at a lower level, with uniform 360° coverage.
@KarlisZalitis
@KarlisZalitis 3 года назад
Great idea with the dock piling caps, did not think of it! Would love to hear and see what have you come up with in regards to the guitar speaker project!
@perrywright1555
@perrywright1555 3 года назад
@@KarlisZalitis I will post when I have the first pair done. Waiting for some trim parts from Penn Fabrication. If you are a guitar player you may have seen some of the new pedal type guitar amps, so no regular looking amp rig. This will be like nothing any guitar player has ever seen.
@C-man553
@C-man553 2 месяца назад
Binaural mike
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