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South Africa’s economic growth strategy needs a US makeover, not an Asian one - Moeletsi Mbeki 

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Asia's economic success stories have been extensively documented in numerous books, attracting a steady stream of visitors to countries like China, Singapore, Vietnam, and South Korea who seek to witness their remarkable growth. Naturally, this prompts the question: What lessons can Africa learn from these experiences, and who should serve as an inspiration? Political analyst, Moeletsi, presents a fresh perspective, suggesting that South Africa should redirect its focus away from the East and instead look to the New World, particularly the United States that we should emulate. In an interview with Biznews, Mbeki draws parallels between the American experience and South Africa's emphasising the need for South Africa to break free from its neo-colonial economic structure imposed by the British, which heavily relies on the export of raw materials. He says that the big mining companies show little interest in beneficiation, instead focusing on excavation and calls for a revolutionary shift to proper industrialisation which includes a fundamental overhaul of South Africa’s education system. - Linda van Tilburg
Video production by Asime Nyide
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Timestamps
00:09 - Introductions
01:04 - On comparisons between Asian countries like South Korea and South Africa
05:44 - On the United States being the example that SA should follow
08:18 - Where did the success story diverge between South Africa and the USA
14:03 - On the colonial hold on our economy
16:31 - On how do we break that hold of the new a colonial economy on South Africa
22:07 - Do we have the capability to establish proper industrialization or beneficiation
24:36 - Conclusions

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@Brucejpw
@Brucejpw Год назад
Buckminster Fuller said “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Our efforts would be better spent building an alternative system rather than trying to destroy/dismantle/fight the existing system. But, of course, it's easier to destroy than it is to create, so this road is less travelled.
@tsv8664
@tsv8664 Год назад
@Brucejpw Actually, sometimes you have to flush an antiquated system. South Korea had the guts to do that 50 years ago....a country with almost no natural resources is a leading industrialised nation today. Mr Mbeki is spot on in referencing the USA as a model...S.Korea did exactly that ... but African Nationalism is too precious for the ANC. As Prof. Jonathan Jansen said recently on this platform, we need to "vote these buggers out"!😮
@madibasdream8712
@madibasdream8712 Год назад
If only the ANC had people like this man running the government. Knowledge is power.
@cjtannerza
@cjtannerza Год назад
When South Africa turned its back on Taiwan, it coincided with handing its manufacturing to China. Now we have 50% unemployment fo young people. Trucks are destroying our roads to carry containers full of goods, which should be made in South Africa.
@marcusmoonstein242
@marcusmoonstein242 Год назад
You need rule of law, a reasonably honest and fiscally prudent government, free markets and ironclad property rights. It's not rocket science. Development economics is well understood, there are shelves of books written about it and multiple economists have spent their entire careers studying it. Yet people talk as if it's some sort of arcane secret.
@psylentrage
@psylentrage Год назад
One would say, the very foundation
@5801160052086
@5801160052086 Год назад
The criminal ANC has destroyed all the requirements for a growing developing economy
@brianp2780
@brianp2780 Год назад
They do not consider it a secret, but rather consider it a threat. Cleptocrats and corprocrats and their ilk abhor meritocracy; which is the ideology that would dominate within the framework you described.
@brianp2780
@brianp2780 Год назад
A USA based makeover? Haha, what are you smoking? I particularly like the "logic" of our belonging in the West because of prior enslavement and somehow that places us into a "new world" bucket with a benign US. Hello... England passed, under duress, the colonial batton to the US. As we speak, the US is undertaking the most ambitious colonialisation to date. However, the Russian bear is more capable than the combined West... I am leaving midway since this video is a threat to anyone's IQ.
@Truthseeker-iz3dj
@Truthseeker-iz3dj Год назад
It would take most of the world to defeat the US, if you can even make it onto the US shores you will not only be up against a sophisticated army but the most armed civilian population on the planet. Goodluck on that one. Russian can't even defeat a direct neighbor with no airforce or Navy. Nevermind Afghanistan
@ohlangeni
@ohlangeni Год назад
I fully agree with you. It is generation and the social class of the Mbekis that got us where we are today as native Africans still dominated by European Colonists while we are 2nd Class citizens.
@lozi4163
@lozi4163 Год назад
Well said. SA has been long doing business with the so called USA, the Gangsters. What did SA benefit from doing business with USA?
@paulreynolds7000
@paulreynolds7000 Год назад
Wat is the state of Mercedes Benz and BMW in South Africa ? They build thousands of cars there annually
@agrid2608
@agrid2608 Год назад
Wise as usual, but I don't agree with his equating the ANC/EFF ideology with *nationalism.* The pan-Africanism they represent is a form of *globalism* which is rent-seeking at the top for an elite, but not interested in South African criticial mass of local nationalism & wealth creation policy, opting instead for open border cheap labour, much to the chagrin of native South Africans. It is too diffuse, with its wide continental & internationalist interest, to be an SA nationalism.
@deonebersohn6225
@deonebersohn6225 Год назад
We had our own steal smelters the ANC broke down
@ohlangeni
@ohlangeni Год назад
Liberal Economics told the ANC to private Iscor and its iron value chain. They did. And you blame the ANC for its demise.
@mikeb8682
@mikeb8682 Год назад
@@ohlangeni it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know if i own some thing i'm king. this is exactly why the anc was put in power.
@LeonKotze70
@LeonKotze70 Год назад
@@ohlangeni okay, so we are not producing food because the farms were privatised? Our textile industry went for shit because that was privatised? Our medical industry went bank because that was privatised? SEOs went for a ball because they were privatised?.... Remove the blindfold and see reality. The ANC is not creating a conducive environment for businesses to succeed, that is the bottom line. PS: Iscor was privatised before 94 (1989), stocks did really well for the first couple of years.
@ohlangeni
@ohlangeni Год назад
@@mikeb8682 Ultimately I agree that the buck ends with the ANC. But White Business in SA is disingenous when it recommended neo-liberal policies to the ANC; the ANC adopted them all then blame ANC and/or Black incompetence for the failure of the policy. Only Mandela's RDP (replaced by GEAR in 1997) and the Zuma government did not follow White Business policies. Statistically, the Zuma government was the best performing government in terms of economic progress and improved standard of living (for Black people especially) despite what the SA Media claims
@ohlangeni
@ohlangeni Год назад
@@LeonKotze70 farms have never been State owned in South Africa. SA farming was hugely succeessful because in relied heavily on slave labour; Black farm labour tenants forced to work for free on White farms for 6 months every year since 1903 to 1986. Apartheid Government also invested heavily on White owned farmland from 1948. SOEs are not collapsing. Open your eyes to Disinformation campaign designed with the nefarious objective to Media owners desiring the State to sell off their assets to them. It is only under Ramaphosa that Eskom first made a loss (Andre de Ruyter) and they sold off SAA for R51 (SAA is not designed to make a profit. It is an anchor of SA's aviation industry).
@marcuskelly5768
@marcuskelly5768 Год назад
You are amazing. You summed the situation up well. However there sre other factors. Nice interview
@clueless5843
@clueless5843 Год назад
There is too much to say to cover in this comment section but let me say this. Ask the indigenous Indians of America what they think about the Americans as role models.
@antonynyathi7046
@antonynyathi7046 Год назад
According to indigenous Indians Christopher Columbus is a murderer!
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
They have casinos worth millions of dollars. Plus they get jobs from the strong economy. In a much better position than us.
@clueless5843
@clueless5843 Год назад
@@fullmetaltheorist oh how little you know. Come live on a reservation here for a while and we’ll have a conversation about how “well” the Indians are living.
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
@@clueless5843 Besides all that your comment has no real application to the video. He's just saying South Africa should embrace free market capitalism. He never suggested throwing people on reservations.
@thozotthembandaba8526
@thozotthembandaba8526 6 месяцев назад
I think you missing the point here, they are a role model in terms of what we need to do to change our situation in South Africa, and not on moral grounds on what they did to the Indians...
@markkaalvoet
@markkaalvoet Год назад
African greed is our problem. My time to feed, nobody wants to sacrifice for the next generation.
@Adnancorner
@Adnancorner Год назад
Yea but the biggest issue is the British control of the central bank of south Africa. Get rid of that abomination, and money will start flowing back into the economy.
@Phillip-oo2ft
@Phillip-oo2ft Год назад
@@Adnancorner no... C O R R U P T I O N!!!
@mathewman
@mathewman Год назад
i remember many years back - just after madiba came to power - the financial mail ran an article on what he could learn from singapore. that was circa 1994. since then - NIL GROWTH. why corruption corruption corruption- FACE REALITY!!!!
@andrewgreener
@andrewgreener Год назад
I understand his point about our economy being very commodity focused, while the USA is an innovative knowledge based economy. The counter argument is the example of Australia which has a thriving mining industry and a now none existent motor industry. Their country has a thriving 1st world economy, with commodity exports playing a major role.
@modisemakokwe4256
@modisemakokwe4256 Год назад
Now they lost their main primary buyer of their raw materials that is China they lost annual turnover of $200 Billion.
@bubblebobble9654
@bubblebobble9654 10 месяцев назад
Australia is 5x larger with half the population. It's also a giant "island" with access to all sorts of easy export opportunities. I suspect those factors play a role. And even though South Africa creates a lot of high quality PhD candidates, I don't think a lot of them stay there, whereas in Australia they import PhDs. So they aren't there just twiddling their thumbs. So for Australia the mining is extra spending cash, whereas in South Africa its a critical component of GDP. There's probably a lot of dissimilarities with regard to the level of corruption and equitable distribution of the mining wealth. I would assume the in South Africa the mining is not making as significant a contribution to the tax base as it probably owes. More likely structured as a bunch of robber barons. Maybe I'm wrong there, but I'd be surprised if I was because when you have an economy in trouble, usually corruption follows pretty closely.
@thapphogg9168
@thapphogg9168 Год назад
Moeletsi knows his audience.😀
@vroumens
@vroumens Год назад
How about South Africa stop being a HOL BORSEL for the East and West, how about that!
@carlosdesousa6712
@carlosdesousa6712 Год назад
The most sensible suggestion I've ever heard from an African politician, however, the tribalist and socialist politics and culture forces otherwise.
@siphoradebe1869
@siphoradebe1869 Год назад
I love this❤
@psylentrage
@psylentrage Год назад
Manufacturing?
@Adnancorner
@Adnancorner Год назад
NO manufacturing its the "american" makeover.... have trillion dollar budget deficits and billion dollar trade deficits. That a success for this speaker.
@Truthseeker-iz3dj
@Truthseeker-iz3dj Год назад
Gotta say Powell has done a great job curbing inflation in the US and Sarb pretty much followed its lead. Lots of naysayers on RU-vid predicting the end of the world. I expect interest rates to be lowered a bit before 2024 as inflation will drop like a rock
@yondoodle
@yondoodle Год назад
They were asleep behind the wheel last time (2008) a crash happened, they will be sleeping next time as well. Fruits of Reagonomics
@ReinhardMuendesi
@ReinhardMuendesi Год назад
This is a failed comparison from the Dr. There is much that meets the eye than what the doctor is saying. Tarrifs, subsidies - whereby local industries close in preference of imports yet the same was being manufactured locally; and entrepreneurship. Yes govt has failed to protect existing industries but entrepreneurship, totally lacks in SA becoz on the pedastal is the motto locals first which is TOTALLY different motto from that of the USA, which is driven by the American dream which is inclusive irrespective of one's standing. The same immigrants are some of the best entrepreneurs who drive the USA economy. The USA model is hard to achieve in such a scenario...there is much Dr. Moketsi has overlooked and his comparison is not ideal at all, in comparing the social dynamics of the two countries. Better draw up a model tgat suits the socio - economic dynamics of the country than comparing contrasting dynamics of the the two countries.
@Kevin-sp7wp
@Kevin-sp7wp Год назад
The US has gone woke and liberal as well, a greater debased minset as the rest
@theresasmuts9896
@theresasmuts9896 Год назад
Mmmhhmmmm, he is so wrong about Asia...as the height of Homo sapiens- Cauc Asian...nothing could be funnier.Unless he knows why the pyramids were built, and so few of us do! Knowledge is a wonderful thing, so is honesty!😂🤗🇿🇦
@markkaalvoet
@markkaalvoet Год назад
No disrespect meant Sir.
@be6926
@be6926 Год назад
Correction: Asia was collecting slaves from East Africa centuries before Europe
@francoispoolman9853
@francoispoolman9853 Год назад
At last someone intelligent you can't compare oranges with apples Basics😢😂
@andreblack8132
@andreblack8132 Год назад
Only solution is to get the ruling party out! Full stop!!!
@sagesse9551
@sagesse9551 Год назад
Stats, 50 million Africans in South Africa, nothing can ever come right if over breeding is not addressed, poverty will stay the national anthem, poverty breeds resentment and the minds of our children cannot move past blaming everyone else for their misery, but the actual problem starts at home, the women in this country don't stop breeding, trapping our men, falling pregnant with 4 different men, our poor kids, especially us boys end up having to steal to help look after our siblings. Us men run our legs off cause women don't want relationships with us, they want to trap us by falling pregnant, all us men do is run our legs off, leaving homes fatherless, women are to blame
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
You fail to understand demographics. Having s growing population helps the conomy grow. If there are good policies. While having no population growth makes the economy shrink. We have the worst of both. No jobs, no growing economy and a growing population. If used correctly the growing population could be used to grow the economy.
@vroumens
@vroumens Год назад
that kind of thinking didnt heIp China and ItaIy who has an aging population. High birth rates hardy make a difference when ore peopIe are dying every day
@thembimaseko9600
@thembimaseko9600 Год назад
I don't blame breeding I blame poorest borders.
@mathewman
@mathewman Год назад
country needs a command economy - easy bring on the EFF!
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
The command economy is exactly why we are suffering. We need the freedom to do what we want.
@thembimaseko9600
@thembimaseko9600 Год назад
He is not clear about economy we are already down the valley what is he doing in the government.
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju Год назад
South Africa afrIKANER S AFRICA COME FROM MIDDLE AFRICA NO FROM SOUTH AFRICA
@geraldlekhowane8736
@geraldlekhowane8736 Год назад
What ?
@thapphogg9168
@thapphogg9168 Год назад
😀😀😀😀
@caymanfrigate
@caymanfrigate 3 месяца назад
Be very wary of super powers. They do not have anyone else’s interests in mind and will gobble you up.
@gautakomane8548
@gautakomane8548 Год назад
A political, skills and moral revolution
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Год назад
I think Thomas Sowell would be a better source of knowledge in this regard
@stevenbayne4166
@stevenbayne4166 Год назад
This Man , I would Love to meet , a Man of knowledge and a True Gentleman !! Have a Huge Amount of Respect for Him !! I sincerely you live in Cape Town so that I can meet you Sir !!
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju Год назад
I was in Capetown in 1966
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju Год назад
Collapse ecconemy like rest world
@conceptbran
@conceptbran Год назад
@Steven, he lives in JHB
@zisilemoyi2246
@zisilemoyi2246 Год назад
@@conceptbran Fourways ..Mr Mbeki
@marabunya
@marabunya Год назад
What Mr Moeletsi Mbeki is suggesting that the country needs to do in order to turn our economic fortunes around is exactly what the EFF have advocated in their Seven Cardinal Pillars for a decade now. They preach that the State must be at the heart of re-industrializing South Africa and making sure that it is a primary player in the production and manufacturing sectors and they're the only party who push for this while the rest of our political parties call for "foreign investment and more mineral exports to foreign countries." Hmm. Mr Mbeki here may have just pushed me an inch closer to voting the EFF next year.🤔
@wegap2012
@wegap2012 Год назад
Well observed. It’s why the mainstream SA media doesn’t want to listen to EFF. Also the ANC has already sold off our assets to everyone so it’s gonna be a difficult phone call when you take all those mines back.
@marabunya
@marabunya Год назад
@@wegap2012 I've also noticed that a lot more mines have closed because they simply became unprofitable over time mainly due to the so-called "anti-business" economic policies imposed by the ANC such as BEE, unending union strikes or invasion of the same active mines by Zama Zamas who push out the legitimate mining companies. These are well documented cases. I can see a potential EFF government expropriating these abandoned mines and making them work in addition to prospecting on new mining areas since the DMRE already has a database of our country's mineral resources out-lay. I don't think the EFF would actually go on with try to take existing profitable mines from current owners. I've followed them for a while now. They seem to suggest that they would rather prefer to reserve future mining licenses for government for those areas whose mineral deposits are shallow and will thus, result in low cost extration for the State. While they lease the rest of the deep stored reserves for the private sector.
@ScissorN
@ScissorN 9 месяцев назад
True problem is Julius o unstable nyana we need someone who will say same things he is saying but in a more Vusi Thembekwayo tone 😂
@marabunya
@marabunya 9 месяцев назад
@@ScissorN 🤣🤣 Malema always said blacks are undermined for their English accent with hard letter "R"
@doreenmusson4891
@doreenmusson4891 Год назад
Comrade Mbeki South Korea could teach us in terms of its Ubuntu philosophy: each person works for himself and a neighbour. In SA and indeed Africa Ubuntu has NEVER been implimented. It's mere rhetoric and platitudes.
@geraldlekhowane8736
@geraldlekhowane8736 Год назад
Imagine Europeans settlers telling us about Ubuntu ? Do you guys even know what is Ubuntu?
@BloodHawk31
@BloodHawk31 Год назад
@@geraldlekhowane8736 Do you? Do not think that just because you are from a culture that started the philosophy that you understand it, because certainly the ANC forgot what it means after Mandela left it. Some European countries do not know the word, but they use the philosophy and in that way, they understand Ubuntu ten times better than the ANC does.
@tsv8664
@tsv8664 Год назад
​@@geraldlekhowane8736Well, the Europeans (mainly) gave us Christianity... "Ubuntu" is built into the fabric of true Christianity...which sadly has been prostituted to materialist and socialist agendas for at least the last 100 years. Mr Mbeki alludes to one of the most important corruptors of this "Ubuntu"... Afrikaner and African nationalism, where race trumps the value and integrity of the freedom of the individual to work and live in a safe and loving environment.
@vleiratfilms2020
@vleiratfilms2020 Год назад
Very interesting lesson in history and useful insights..thank you both🌹🌹
@glamourboy100
@glamourboy100 Год назад
Fascinating topic..which political party can address this challenge
@Braaiman
@Braaiman Год назад
I agree with him that we should not export raw materials. In vest all our people in education and the result will come
@rsacitizen6151
@rsacitizen6151 Год назад
So are these mining companies not paying taxes are loyalties to the state?
@DavidRasebotje
@DavidRasebotje Год назад
These mbeki and his brother they are friends of imperialist
@siphokolanisi6186
@siphokolanisi6186 Год назад
Ur brain doesn't work properly. Did u ever heard about AFRICAN RENAISSANCE, by former President Mbeki??
@siphokolanisi6186
@siphokolanisi6186 Год назад
Ur brain doesn't work properly. Did u ever heard about AFRICAN RENAISSANCE, by former President Mbeki??
@siphokolanisi6186
@siphokolanisi6186 Год назад
Ur brain doesn't work properly. Did u ever heard about AFRICAN RENAISSANCE, by former President Mbeki??
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju
@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju Год назад
Tribe problem
@amoorangi3357
@amoorangi3357 7 месяцев назад
address education and security in South Africa. in this time of knowledge economy those old ideas can't work. Asia is doing fine because of its focus on STEM and culture. when you elect people like Ramaphosa as your leader...you can continue complaining ..idonot agree..south africa has been free for more than 30 years...and still blaming other countries for its lack of progress
@patradford8698
@patradford8698 3 месяца назад
A gentleman that South Africa can be proud of
@wandiledume4966
@wandiledume4966 Год назад
That's not true that SA economy needs a US makeover.
@figgettit
@figgettit Год назад
he's so off about east asia its actually embarrassing.
@siphokolanisi6186
@siphokolanisi6186 Год назад
Mashaba worned China & Russia a liability to South Africa n no one took him serious
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
It's mainly the anc and eff pushing us there.
@thembimaseko9600
@thembimaseko9600 Год назад
Mashaba is very clear but is getting old I doubt he will have energy to lead next year.
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist Год назад
@@thembimaseko9600 He is way better than the alternatives.
@meggallucci5300
@meggallucci5300 Год назад
This qualifies as the worst interview I have ever seen. Is he really saying that South Africa’s history begins with the imperialist powers? The U.S. Revolution against imperialism was a miracle. Post WWII realignment with Britain has been a disaster for the U.S. It has gotten us back into imperialism. His mistake is to call the US a “role model.” That’s nuts. He may be making the point that their economy must change, but he is doing it in the strangest way. Just make the point that SA should process its resources. Don’t give a boring, misguided talk reviewing the disasters of colonialism. We all know that.
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