@@johnnyveganite9141Yeah but we excel at so many other things can't be great at everything there always some dude in comments that always says the stupidest shit about America but that just shows our greatness when all these low life's from third world countries that most likely get billions of our money in foreign aid are just jealous that they aren't as great as us and never will be
Plenty of easy reasons (skills, gear, etc.) to criticize the rider in the accident, so I won't pile on. But I have to say I was honestly impressed how the camera rider calmly and quickly pulled off a u-turn on that two-lane road. Lots of reasons that would have been tough for many to do in that situation and on that bike.
STOP WITH THAT GARBAGE!! NO THE HELL IT DOESNT OMFGGGGG!!! LOL I'm actually being serious here, I dont know where you people get this ridiculous idea, I've tested this several times, I have 0 accidents on the road EVER, been riding over 30 years, I'm 55 now, I've turned my head, STARING at buildings before while riding I DIDNT GO SLAMMIN INTO THE BUILDING!!!!
@@leeknievel748 You sound like a maniac. And you don't seem to understand the look-where-you-want-to-go principle. Probably don't know how to counter-steer either. Get lost, pops.
Front flat tire. He was thinking about stopping at that intersection but as he slowed and braked the bike stood upright and didn’t perform any turning. *CRASH !* just my guess
It can be done. I bought my first bike (‘17 Heritage Classic) in March of 2020 at the tender age of 69. I’ve dropped the bike and had some mishaps but none at speed. I’ve put 20,000 miles on the bike in four years. We did a 13 day 2800 mile trip last August. This is not to brag but to illustrate that with proper training, practice, and good health, it can be done. Absolutely love riding…
Keep us posted, learning to ride late in life seems risky to me. Been riding my entire life and still feel luck with the various close calls I’ve had. Shit happens fast.
My comment was aimed at the guy in the video. I’ve been riding since teen age. I see way too many unhealthy, overweight and older people trying to look like an image they idolize.
Panicked and stopped countersteering and tried to turn the bars like a car. It won’t work. All he had to do is bear down on that inside bar. Whenever you see a bike stand up and drive straight off the corner they are not countersteering.
Bill, this guy most likely doesn't ride in mountain territory. I could tell from the very start of the video which biker was going down. It's not a Harley issue, it's a rider's lack of experience. Do you ride? If so, what make of bike?
I am constantly amazed at people who walk into a Harley dealer and buy a bike with ZERO experience. You see them wobbling down the road with their $1000 dealer clothing outfit but a crap cheap helmet, no Kevlar or boots. Paper plate still on the bike. What could possibly go wrong? Take a course and start small and work your way up! Those of us still around started on a minibike and moved up the "CC Chain" until a big bike wasn't a problem. Take a rider course too. Jeez. Oh, yeah. To the HD dealers out there who sell to anyone...you should be ashamed.
My biggest fear. Stopped riding for 40 years. Took a refresher and almost shat my pants. When looking for a bike I went for an 883. Sales person said I was making a mistake and was telling me to get bigger. I stuck to my guns, walked out, and went elsewhere. Got the 883, 550 lbs, 50 horses, does 70 mph. I wear all the gear. Smart decision. Bikes, like the sea, are unforgiving. I feel for that guy. Honest mistake but costly. 😮
It's looks like you bought what you were comfortable with and that's a good thing. I will say this though. I sold Harleys for 10 years in the early 00s and there are two major reasons why it can be better to go with the bigger bike. 1 is that especially on Harleys the bigger bikes like softtails and dynas have a lot lower center of gravity and a usually lower seat height than a sporty. If you took your 883 and a heritage soft tail in a parking lot and did figure 8s the soft tail would be way easier to maneuver because of this even though it's a heavier bike. Also more stable at freeway speeds because of this too. 2 almost...almost every person that buys a sportster as their first bike and stays riding more than one season is so sick of how small ,underpowered and uncomfortable after any sort of distance that they trade it in and lose their butt financially and end up buying the bigger bike anyways. I found that with the proper training that as long as your feet are solid at a stop that any bike will be just as controllable as another. This accident was pure lack of skill and not being on too big of a bike.
@racegascustoms I will be honest. I am glad I started small. Considered bigger but I can't justify it at the moment. Renovations on the house. Made it stage 1, arlen ness big sucker, and vance and hines short shots make for nice ride. Anyway, something to hope for.
@@bigd4561 My son in law wanted a Harley. When he said Sportster, I told him to get the 1200, not the 883. Being he knew more than me, even though I've rode my entire life, he bought the 883. It wasn't two months later he started complaining his bike needed more power. Being the sneaky, lying bastard he is, he takes it into a shop and has the cylinders and head changed out, converting it to a 1200. I don't know how much it cost him to do that, but I'm sure it made his former 883 into one expensive 1200. My daughter wised up to this idiot, dumped his ass, and is a whole bunch happier now.
Bikes are forgiving if you know how to ride them. Just takes lots of time to get comfortable. Ironically in lots of conditions throttle can save you and front breaks can wreck you. It this guy had kept feet on bike, got his butt out of the saddle and hit the throttle he probably could have rode out of it. HD guys don't have any idea how to get fat a$$ off seat though. Lol.
He was looking where he did not want to go versus having his eyes locked in on where he wants the bike to go and lost his line. He could’ve easily made that curve.
Before they take you out on your very first lesson, the driving instructor here in Sweden will tell you to get to the dressing room and put on some gear in the correct size. Without that they wont even let you sit on a bike, let alone ride it. But of course in the US helmets and gear is for those folks that let themself be suppressed by the government. And trainig is for loosers anyway, a real man know how to ride a by instinct. This is the result.
At least he wasn’t dressed like he was asking for candy on Halloween like your typical sport bike rider. Hopefully the dude gets a smaller bike and some experience.
@@guins99what the hell does that mean? You mean it's too bad that if he had decent leathers on he wouldn't have gotten effed up? Sport bike riders don't care if you think they don't look cool. They dress for the crash. Rather sweat than bleed.
I don't get it. I cycle and don't go nearly as fast as a guy on a bike. But I will never go ride without a helmet. I've cracked two helmet's bouncing my head off the road at a measly 20mph.
Spend some time on the weekends in a roundabout. Learn to lean at slow speeds. Then gradually increase the speed. Ride every day… learn the basics of corners at 45… you have to learn
Typical. 3 people arriving at the scene with the deer in the headlight look. Support rider should have been yelling for one of them to call 911 immediately.
You suggesting that he lean the bike shows you know just about as much about the dynamics of motorcycle handling as he does. You do NOT lean a motorcycle to turn it. A motorcycle leans because of the counter-steering input which is the only way a motorcycle will turn.
@@X1MIKE77 I know how to turn, lean, counter steer, whatever you want to call it. Understand wobble and weave, contact patch, squat, thrust angle, any other motorcycle gobbledy-gook you want to throw at me. Been riding for 50 fuckin years! The only thing you've got going for you is internet arrogance, So Get Lost!!!
@@X1MIKE77you absolutely lean it 😂 look at any professional rider, they lean all the way to the side to get the contact patch facing away from them to get cornering grip. Learn to ride before saying stuff like that!
@@tacticalidiot175 tell me you have no concept of how a motorcycle turns without telling me you have no concept of how a motorcycle turns. I can ride down the road in a straight line with the bike leaned at 45 degrees. Why is that? It’s because I’m not counter-steering. If you want to turn left, push the left handlebar. If the bike is leaned over more in a corner it’s because the rider (of which you may be one day) is pushing harder on the inside bar. A motorcycle does not turn by leaning. Leaning is a byproduct of counter-steering.
@@X1MIKE77 bro watched a fortnine video and came back acting like he's a physicist 😭 quit acting like you understand anything and realize no lean = no turn. No turn with no lean, no lean with no turn. Simple. Ride a bicycle.
On roads like that, I don't like the staggered line they were in. Things happen where you may need the entire lane to evade it. He did not have to be over there close to the gravel.
That is the reason you don’t ride so close to the edge of the road. Too much gravel and debris and if you have to swerve slightly to avoid something, you are off. Plus this guy just didn’t know how to take a corner. Poor riding skills written all over it.
that wasnt the issue here. he either was in too high of gear or was not letting up on throttle to allow engine brake for proper entry of the curve. He shouldnt have been in this group ride. Riding the line is great if you pay attention and is actually necessary when things like semis and RVs are coming on the curve
I feel bad for this guy. After a 25 year hiatus from riding I finally put a bike back on the road. My 8th bike. I find that now, at 58, I am FAR more careful than I was 35 years ago. More aware of my vulnerability. I now tend to take far less chances. And yes, it feels fantastic to have my knees back in the breeze... 😊
Rookie mistake. I hear about this all the time. Dude gets his endorsement after riding the city-sponsored Honda 125CC, immediately goes out and buys a fat boy. This guy is lucky he didn't lose his leg
That's why they're called "HARDLY" riders! I've been riding 44 years; all sport bikes...and the H-D crowd continues to mystify me. They find ways to wreck that I didn't know existed.
What a terrible rider. Riding slow, crashes anyway. Even before he crashed I thought to myself, “You’re getting pretty close to the marbles, I wouldn’t do that.” Then he just goes straight in to the marbles.
Totally waved at a passing bike in a corner and found out! Might want to rethink the whole “Waving at my new 1 second friend “ while in a corner or anywhere for that matter! And my Fav I see while riding on the interstate, throwing up waves 200 meters across the medium!
I like the comments here. Very entertaining. I've been riding all my long life, mostly BMW and Honda. I felt like adding he didn't much crash, just rode off the road and fell off.
From the moment I started watching this video I knew it was gonna be the middle bike. He has no idea how to ride a bike. Every curve he was straight up riding not even leaning into it at all. First big curve says it all! Sad hopefully he's ok.
It's not hard. It's not rocket science. You either ride the middle perfectly, the center line perfectly, or the sidelines perfectly. I can follow a line with one inch of clearance. IF you pay attention and don't mind drift away from what you're doing. You are on a motorcycle after all.
If you need to tighten up a corner more and you are in panic mode, look where you want to go, ie not the ditch or trees, and push hard on the bar-left grip to go left, right grip to go right, lean with the bike and youll be fine.
That guy was an accident waiting to happen, riding way too close to the edge, hardly leaning the bike at all. Probably didn't even see the road sign at the .06 mark (curvy road ahead). Most likely, he didn't have a license either. But hey, he looked cool crashing on his Harley...
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