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I have grinded German & US submarines T6 , I manage to get 320k on both in one day , that crap is so OP , just go to cap , and wait for dd 100% guarantee og shootguning without any means to defent for enemy , and yes subs are fun to play ... but that will kill BB & cruisers , I have placed my veteran accout for sale , if i manage to sell it , I will play as sub main player ...🏧⛔
all systems ... Nazism, Fascism, Socialism, Neo-Marxism, Leninism, Globalism, Maoism, are no different from communism. they are the political branches of Satanism. it's a pity you don't want to see it all the time. I bet it's a problem of no internet:] ... nooooo? because if you had the Internet, you could check it yourself. I forgot to add Holy Democracy, which is the holiest of mankind's enslavement systems. how many sacrifices will democracy make to the scroll of god by vaccination?
37 knots....From the same dev group that told us it could not add depth charges to a ship because it historically didnt have it. Yep. Sounds about right.
So they look at the submerged speed and the surface speed combined them because duh, Why wouldnt you. Then add communism, Stalin, Trotsky, lenin, and Putin. Itll get wings soon to escape from the capitalist oppressors return fire.
@@tumppu1975 The entire Russian tech tree is copium. There has not been and will never be a time where any Russian ship is worth a damn, let alone the Russian navy as a whole.
@@SallinKari The Mk 14 is actually still in naval reserve funnily enough I mean I wouldn't want to be the poor bugger actually using it these days but it is there & probably still usable against merchant shipping if nothing else.
@@ogscarl3t375 Sort of sad that the biggest cascading failure of design became the most long served torpedo... I mean, sure the problems were eventually fixed but... How did that mess because the longest serving torpedo?
To be fair modeling sub is a lot faster than anything else, idk about other aspects of creating ship for wows such as gimmicks, parameters etc. but models definitely take only a fraction of time to make and I would guess modelling takes major part of ship creation. No more subs tho.. pls..
@@Cat_in_The-Box they will take that comment of no more subs and say hold my beer and printed out subs famous for wolfpack or Rudeltaktik tactics in ww2 from both US vs Japanese ships and german subs vs convoy shipping plus any subs WG pulls out of their a--es
The super sub name will be “Red October” and the special captain will be Marco Ramius and the gimmick will be the caterpillar drive which renders the sub undetectable for a period of time
I don't even think that would be that broken because red October didn't have any super speshul armaments other than some nukes which they... nah they might put it in the game.
I know right. Why even use AP shells if your going to get SHIT LIKE THAT? FULL BROADSIDE Kremlin 4 pens 1 over pen, Angled Kremlin gets DOUBLE CITADELLED. How?
@@Schimml0rd As a gamer, that is not my problem comrade. I only care about consistency of gameplay. That clip LITTERLY goes against the RULES of the game itself. Like i guess his shells MISSED the kremlins citadel and just hit the space above it, BUT HOW THE FUCK do you PEN the Kremlins THICC bow plating and go straight into its Citadel at THAT kind of angle? This happening to the Yamato is one thing due to its citadel shape, Kremlin does not have this problem and is ARMORED thoughout its hull.
as a dd main I can officially confirm that my role in this game has been fulfilled and I can now move on to another game :) tap like to pay respects to all the dd main flamu enjoyers prayge
Nah, they've just added to the common tasks of a dd, essentially "spot the enemy", "hunt other dds", "take all caps", "defend the caps" and "dodge the planes", a new one, "get deleted by subs".
Feels like when they were reading the wiki on subs they were smoking so much glue they confused knots with km/h, cause 37km/h is pretty accurate for ww2 diesel electrics.
At those speeds and shallow depths the cavitation would be extremely loud, so it should be detected even while submerged at long distances by any ship running passive sonar (like all DDs).
At those speeds the cavitation would be extremely loud, so dds should be detected at long distances even while over the horizon by any ship running passive sonar (like all subs). ))
Should be noted that they went and edited the devblog to show both the submerged and surface speed. And K-1 may have 37 knots of surface speed (which is still total bonkers, dont get me wrong), but her submerged speed is only 18 knots, which is the lowest at tier X
Okay, but you know they're not going to keep that. Not for Soviet subs, when they're catering to 'casuals' who wouldn't have the patience for 18 knots.
@@stavrosstamelos6890 trying to use irl numbers is completely pointless in an arcade game. While we're at it, Georgia also goes 8 knots faster than she should and I have yet to see somebody complaining about it.
@@Axel23410 also if its just arcade game and irl numbers dont count , why doesnt yamato get 35 knots too? and push iowa at 40? would make the "arcade" experience way more comfortable
It has been pretty funny that it seems like the usage of subs has decreased even from when they were just in development a month ago, if it were not for the matchmaker trying to throw them into coop, there would have been a pretty small number of games I think I would have seen with them.
Irl: 22kn surface and 10kn submerged Wow: 22+10 + little bonus of 5kn surface and about 70% of surfaced while submerged.... No problem, i didn't knew we had antimatter powered Soviet subs in ww2
Meanwhile in Azur Lane: we got Royal Fortune, a pirate age of sail frigate that works like the Dutchman from pirates of the caribbean. And AL makes more sense than this. And RF looks like a nice waifu.
but flamu, the "silent majority" of players have very vocally and unanimously spoken to only wargaming in a method that can't be disclosed that submarines are completely balanced and have no issues whatsoever. Also remember in the last devblog about plans to reduce speed of subs WG was happy with speed of subs, but they have been carefully monitoring the balance and have decided to give the players what they want by reducing speed by negative 20 knots of the soviets
I’ve been playing this game for years now and can honestly say I’ve had a blast. Met some great people, had some great games, was over all pretty successful with some decent stats in game. The absolute saddest thing though is that I haven’t played this game in a couple weeks and I feel so much better, refreshed even. A pity they keep going down this BS road
Aye, they seem hell bent on ruining what was a great game. These Russian subs are faster, have tighter turning radiuses, lower detects and shorter torp cool downs then DD's. Like seriously WG, f'off with this non sense.
I like how their T6 is German since it's based on the U-69 series, their T8 is based on british subs, their T10 seems to be all theirs but apparently the most noticeable "combat" of any of their subs was damaging/sinking shipping with mines. Low Alpha doesn't matter if you can reliably place DoT. Sure they are easy to spot but they are stupid fast, which means they'll home better otherwise they'd always miss even with homing. They'll still obliterate DDs. Submerged should be just a percentage reduction probably between 25-30% so it'll still probably go 30ish knots under water. Don't forget closing speed, so while the torp may be going 76kts you're charging in at between 36-46 kts so the relative closing speed of those torps will be 112-122 kts, good luck dodging that unless you're in one of the space or apocalypse DDs.
K13 in 1945 sunked a MS Wilhelm Gustloff. On board of this ship was (depending on estimation) from 6 to 10k peoples who flee from East Prussia to germany. It was biggest lost peoples at sea ever recorded + many considerations if it was allowed or it was war crime
First, it was S-13 (in Russian С-13) a totally different submarine type. Second, according to the radio message sent by W.Gustlof on January 30, 1945, the ship had on board: 991 soldiers, 373 naval auxiliaries, 3365 civilians. The ship itself was a military transport/floating barrack, housing men of 2nd German U-boat training division. The ship was equipped with AA mounts and painted in war time camouflage. During its last voyage, it had a "convoy" in form of a torpedo boat. The above mentioned clearly indicates that the ship was a legitimate target.
@@arsk5127 wikipedia stated that it carried over 10k passengers. Among them were a mixture of civilians and soldiers as the ship was evacuating trapped German personnels in Baltic State. So I don't know what kind of figure you pulled from your @ss came frome
For perspective, with 100% maxed captain torpedo build and upgrades, the kamikaze/fujin torps (which are already busted even without speccing hard for them) reach a speed of 75 knots. And the T6 soviet sub is getting that base... LOL.
I was gonna say, U-69 also has +70kt Torps at T6 (73 kts iirc) So the 75 on the soviet is about the total average of T6 Sub Torps with less dmg and range ^^
The K class RN submarines where stream driven, so it took them like twenty minutes or more to dive. They had to firstly fold and seal the exhaust stack and allow boiler to be extinguished and cooled. Only then could they dive, sure it kept up with surface ships while running on steam but.... One blew up and the others were decommissioned as a complete and abject failure.
You know what's next, right? Premium ships without ASW will get secretly-adjusted MM to avoid subs in order to sell more of those ships that nobody wants.
This has finally cemented the rightness of my decision to make myself and all the people I know to uninstall Wows. Fucking 45.8 knotes. In Condé you not only need a speed flag and the speed boost active. You actually need to have Auboyneau's "Surge Forward" talent active to be able to catch it. I don't know what they are smoking in that office, but I am seriously considering going over there and asking them if I can have some.
I was fine with the thought of subs entering the game. Thought they would be hard to detect and should be the slowest ships in the game. And now I'm seeing BBs with depth charges and subs able to catch up with cruisers. Total BS. All they made were DDs that can go under water and not have a main battery. Subs should be all about finding choke points and sitting and waiting for a feast. Not at flank speed chasing down escort ships. Any sub that can do more than 25 knots on the surface or 15 knots under water during WW2 is fantasy. I believe subs were 20/10 max.
You should read the Clive Cussler historical recount of submarines. The USSR sub which caught fire while dived during testing and they realised they had no fire extinguishers on board. The crew were forced to smother the flames on a DC switchboard using their bare hands!
One of the fastest subs in the history of the world was the Alpha SSN, with 43 knts. To achieve 40 knts+, they had a specially designed nuclear reactor and steam turbine, a highly reduced crew with most systems automated to save space and weight, a completely titanium hull to also save weight. An entire bottom-up design for speed. You're telling me that a glorified U-boat can close to match that with WW2 technology?
Are they going to add Moskva hybrid heavy cruiser/submarine? It would be a great feature in the game! Can't wait to see the flagship sub of the Black Sea Fleet 😊
23:44 kremlin actually have a weakspot at bells kinda like the yamato but kremlin's weakspot is smaller and its between the foredeck and forebelt armor just above the icebreaker there is little bit of an overmatchable bell armor looking directly to the citadel section that you can punch through easily with 18" guns and cit a kremlin from front so gettin citadeled from the bells in a kremlin isn't a surprise for me but that broadsiding kremlin had no rights to live that encounter either ,that was unfortunate
@@Flamuu i actually think it makes sense as twisted as the scenario looked at first glance. our friendly kremlin's navigator shows 30-31 degrees, autobounce occurs on
@@Flamuu yeah you shouldn't overmatch it but that single portion over the icebreaker acts like 30mm and its been like that since the russian bbs first released and this is one of the reasons why he said fix your game wegee cuz you shouldn't overmatch that part but the game thinks otherwise
2:00 can I point out that after 8 months the soviet submarines now have the fastest reload out of all other submarines? so they went from slow reload, to fastest reload
Where are the battleship subs? I want 6 380mm guns and be able to fire them underwater and remain undetected. I love that these subs from ww1 & 2 are as fast or faster than top of the line subs now.
Just wait until WeeGee realizes that US subs during WWII had radar and would travel during the day at periscope depth with the radar antenna sticking out of the water pinging ships.
German steam torpedo was maxed at 44 knots. Also the slow setting had an average range of 5km. Soviet torpedoes are powered by Stalin’s love of the motherland and does 62 knots and travels across the planet.
T10 russian sub: doing almost the same speed as the Alfa class super fast nuclear attack submarines.... And those things had to have really andvanced liquid metal reactors in order to reach such speeds.... Then again, we already have russian BBs with more engine power than Nimitz class carriers, so what else is new?
Oh boy, can't wait to play Kleber and get the feeling of getting torped by *calculating* _135 knot_ undodgeable torps. Guess the alternative way of interacting with them is to just sink to the bottom to get on their level.
So they're cutting out the delay between claiming there will be a downside to the subs and buffing it out later, to just claiming it at the top of the devblog and forgetting about it in the actual stats?
submarine consumables... can see ships a long way away... ship hydro spotting range at depth is 2k... they are not even pretending to be balanced any more
imagine diving into the enemy team, emerge, kill the boat behind you with 6 torps, seriously damage the boat in front with 4 torps and dive back into the darkness. this will be so exciting for the surface ships. 🤣👍
Well, it is the recharge of each torpedo, load 1 at a time not all at once, or in packages of 2 or 3 and the damage if it is little, how much anti-torpedo protection do the battleships have? By the way you only look at what it could do and not what it will actually do you think those 8 torpedoes will actually do 80k raw damage if they do it right they'll only do 45% of that damage and that's if you manage to connect the torpedoes, yes, they are fast, but they don't know how to turn, they have hydro, or they are those players who detect the torpedoes at 12 km and still eat all the torpedoes. Never forget that however broken or op something may be, it doesn't include the hands to play it, at this point 80% of sub players don't even have a clue what to do, so I don't worry about bad or broken. they can be, since the end result is decided by the player and not the ship or submarine. At least level 10 is real and not fantasy like other things XD.
I have no urge whatsoever to go back to playing WoWS, but I definitely want whatever drugs the developers have, they clearly have the good stuff. K-1 being faster than its real combined surfaced and submerged speeds plus a decent running pace on top of that is just incredible. On the eSports thing, to be fair, as an F1 fan I can't really suggest any other sport, e or not, is more ridiculous when it comes to consistency 😂
If they've lost the people who wrote the main code for the game and it was already falling apart at the seams before that, imagine what the state of the game is gonna be like in one year lmfao
I mean, at least you can say the USSR HAD SUBS. That more then we can say for most of their IN GAME navy. Edit: WTF THEY GAVE THEM DECK GUNS?! Why can't all subs have deck guns? Edit 2: ok WTF is that reload and concealment? 60 or longer seconds would be LONG reload for a submarine, 42 is BEARLY worse. 6km consealment..... that's not mediocre that's AVERAGE even for DDs. Barely worse then other subs.
Lmao. The tier 10 is faster than the fastest Russian Cold War era submarine, the K-222 class nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine - which reached 44.7 knots submerged during trials.
Breaking news, WG adds ability for subs to teleport where ever they want by clicking on mini map, a spokesman had this to say. "I don't actually think it will be that much of a buff from the current state, as most players, according to our statistics, cant even identify the mini map on their hud."
About the KotS clip, I have now had the impression there is something wrong with angling for longer, like eating 10k damage a salvo from a Strasbourg hitting my BB (non-overmatchable) belt from impossible angles.
Sub casually outrunning Black's torpedoes. I see we didn't like the historical accuracy for this so we chose to ignore it on this one. Reminder that Dutch airfields exist but they can't have ASW... and need updated models before ASW can be included...
