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Welcome back to our Command & Conquer Tier List series. We're gonna rank all of Soviet's infantries, vehicles, naval ships, and aircrafts based on how viable they are in the online meta of Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge. I'll also provide reasoning and a competitive analysis of why I ranked a certain unit in their corresponding spot.
Note that this tier list is NOT based on a unit's overall strength. Units here are ranked by their viability in the meta. You may see a very strong unit being ranked low on this list - That is because they do not see many uses in online competitive gameplay.
Time codes for units:
S - Tier:
Desolator - 0:08
Terror Drone - 0:23
Rhino Heavy Tank - 0:42
A - Tier:
Attack Dog - 1:07
Conscript - 1:24
Flak Track - 1:44
Siege Chopper - 2:07
Dreadnought - 2:30
B - Tier:
Boris - 2:44
Giant Squid - 3:03
Kirov Airship - 3:22
C - Tier:
Tesla Trooper - 3:49
Demolition Truck - 4:05
Apocalypse Tank - 4:16
Sea Scorpion - 4:44
D - Tier:
Flak Trooper - 5:00
Crazy Ivan - 5:17
V3 Rocket Launcher - 5:40
Typhoon Attack Sub - 5:53
F - Tier:
Tesla Tank - 6:22
Terrorist - 6:36

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@JewelManDLN069
@JewelManDLN069 3 года назад
I laughed so hard at the "Thalassophobic" in Boris' weakness description. xD
@IkeFanBoy64
@IkeFanBoy64 2 года назад
I still find it funny how a single throwaway line was enough fuel to power the "Boris hates swimming" memes.
@supremewilhelmii8120
@supremewilhelmii8120 3 года назад
Attack Dog Pros: •Good boy
@yiboduan4321
@yiboduan4321 3 года назад
Yes
@HalalKaibaLegacy
@HalalKaibaLegacy 3 года назад
that was wholesome ^^
@user-xb7fv6gn6d
@user-xb7fv6gn6d 2 года назад
😂😂😹😹😹😹🔥😎😏 Yes me too burst out laughing
@burnedpotatoes720
@burnedpotatoes720 6 месяцев назад
As it should be.
@erickim3441
@erickim3441 3 года назад
One extra thing about desolators is that they cannot be crushed, if they weren't op enough as it was.
@erickim3441
@erickim3441 3 года назад
ho boy can't wait for the yuri tier list, where 70% of the units are in S tier.
@elijahtoppersons7827
@elijahtoppersons7827 3 года назад
Thank u
@DiscusvissenRocken
@DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад
like which? only really good units Yuri has are the disc, the magnetron, Yuri Prime and Gattling tanks (and boomers if there is enough water for them to have good range on bases). all others are mehh. Master minds are overrated imo. too easy to MC the wrong units like a swarm of useless conscripts and lose them. they are good, but not s tier imo.
@redknight07_
@redknight07_ Год назад
@@DiscusvissenRocken yuri clones, yuri prime, initiate, virus, gattling tanks, boomers and disk
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 2 месяца назад
@@DiscusvissenRocken Yuri clones and Masterminds aren't staple but they are way better than the bad Soviet or Allied units.
@pronoob2439
@pronoob2439 3 года назад
*a Terrorist unit appears* Sputnik: Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
@volknetai.3690
@volknetai.3690 3 года назад
Terrorist is a unit that make for absolutly wasting money only. Sputnik may be bad but at least it doesn't blow your base up when someone accidently explode
@user-lq3op9gy4o
@user-lq3op9gy4o 3 года назад
@@volknetai.3690 Meanwhile Terrorist in Generals is an OP Unit.
@johncarter4956
@johncarter4956 3 года назад
@@user-lq3op9gy4o Especially Juhziz's terrorist.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 3 года назад
Terrorist: At least we can try to take enemies with us to hell amigo! What can you do? Sputnik: Svolach'... 😑
@Sherlock-Eco
@Sherlock-Eco 3 года назад
Was Sputnik able to crush infanty? i don't remember i never seen one in fight due to they are unarmed.
@MrPathorn
@MrPathorn 3 года назад
They have to change terrorist so they would be immune to other terrorist explosion (like in Generals) so they will be 3 times more useful.
@UnsaneMan
@UnsaneMan 3 года назад
Allies : NOOO!!! You can't just use a single unit to destroy our entire grizzly tank forces! Soviet : haha desolator go blltttt
@user-qv7ny7pg8w
@user-qv7ny7pg8w 3 года назад
*The Alliance player did not notice the Desolator and led an armada of vehicles to attack* Desolator: *sneezed* Player for the Iraq: Ta-dam! They evaporated.
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 3 года назад
Sniper: Sniper ready
@chengyunma4497
@chengyunma4497 Год назад
@@yizhenji5564 Flak track & Terror drone: Allow me to introduce myself.
@x-peacekeeper-x2500
@x-peacekeeper-x2500 Год назад
@@chengyunma4497 Grand cannons:May I join the club?
@DiscusvissenRocken
@DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад
actually, if you have 3 tesla troopers powering up a tesla coil it DOES prevent power down while keeping the increased damage plus they'll have increased range
@justanothercommunist7241
@justanothercommunist7241 3 года назад
3:49 Actually, more troopers may prevent tesla coils from power down
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 3 года назад
I guess two were enough to keep the coil powered up during a shutdown
@kedarunzi9139
@kedarunzi9139 2 года назад
@@yizhenji5564 Yup, and iirc, three give it the bonus
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 3 года назад
Aren’t V3 supposed to be Tier 2 units?I remembered that they were unlocked after you build the Radar
@n484l3iehugtil
@n484l3iehugtil 3 года назад
Yea, I think that's a typo
@ijmillares9005
@ijmillares9005 3 года назад
I love how the unit video showcase mimics the one in red alert 3
@chengyunma4497
@chengyunma4497 3 года назад
There's a reason why Red Alert 2 is called Rhino Alert by some PvP players.
@mackermicker2064
@mackermicker2064 3 года назад
Love the little demonstration video you added. Must have taken you a long time to get clips for (especially the terrorist). Very good video keep up the great work mate!
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
thanks! That was a nightmare!
@carker120
@carker120 3 года назад
Ladies and gentlemen XYHC introduces the red alert 2 version of the competitive tier list
@my.angel_hikari
@my.angel_hikari 3 года назад
I like these video a lot because of every joke you made about their cons xD Btw what are you gonna do if there is nothing left to discuss about RA2?
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
thanks! This is a RA3 channel after all. I won't do RA2 contents that often
@CrabHead501
@CrabHead501 3 года назад
Cool video!
@initiatekris7432
@initiatekris7432 3 года назад
Are you planning to make a tier list for all C&C games (I mean Tiberian Dawn to RA3 excluding Renegade) or only for RA2/ RA3?
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
Initiate Kris maybe. Will probably need to collaborate with other RU-vidrs & seasoned pros, since I don’t play any C&C games competitively except RA3
@vietnamabc2290
@vietnamabc2290 3 года назад
@@xyhc-cnc A collab for CnC 3 and Generals would be lit as fuck, both games are still played competitively until now.
@enigma8301
@enigma8301 3 года назад
Generals / ZH tier list 🤧
@inthasonephaophanith9820
@inthasonephaophanith9820 3 года назад
for me Miniguners are absolute overpowered
@bsherman8236
@bsherman8236 3 года назад
Top units for every faction Usa humvees+missile defenders Gla quad cannon/technical+RPG China gatling tanks
@enigma8301
@enigma8301 3 года назад
@@bsherman8236 That's not true because a lot of Generals have a lot of other viable units
@bsherman8236
@bsherman8236 3 года назад
@@enigma8301 i just listed the best, other "viable" units are very situational and most of the time not cost-efficient until you get to the endgame.
@enigma8301
@enigma8301 3 года назад
@@bsherman8236 lol that's like saying "oh yeah the only viable units are Rhino Grizzly Lasher kekekekek and cryocopter and mecha tengu"
@volknetai.3690
@volknetai.3690 3 года назад
Conscripts&Rhinos spammer is one of the best way to win. At least in mission and skirmish due to low cost. Fast build time. And they will protect each other weakness ( except air ).
@nomadprime5669
@nomadprime5669 3 года назад
Tesla troopers can return power to a tesla coil. 1 tesla trooper will fully charge a coil when there is power, but when there is no power, it needs two to return the tesla coil to function, then a third to overcharge it.
@detaaditya6237
@detaaditya6237 3 года назад
Conscripts can also survive a shot from a lone Prism Tower. Also, due to its cheap price, they're so easy to be promoted
@bigblackcat6100
@bigblackcat6100 3 года назад
Is there any chance you might made tier list of modded ra2 called "Mental Omega" since their subfaction is fairly interesting with load of units both original and from other C&C series
@cwjian90
@cwjian90 3 года назад
Surprised Flak Track is only A tier considering how versatile it is and how it is a counter to many of the Allies' and Yuri's best units. However, I guess I underestimated how useful the terror drones are in RA2, even if they lack abilities like the stasis ray in RA3.
@excrist1274
@excrist1274 3 года назад
Yup It's deducted to A due dealing too weak against structure, vehicle
@mwperk02
@mwperk02 2 года назад
Honestly terror drones counter some of the most busted gimmicky units like desolators (their immune to radiation) all mind control except psychic towers (immune to mind control) Iron curtain on 9 of them is a free mass murder of a cluster of enemy tanks, war miners, hordes of infantries etc. also despite taking heavy damage from most anti infantry weapons sniper class rounds used by seals, tanya, and snipers barely damage them. this little guy is even capable of inducing brown pants syndrome in yuri prime shortly before ripping him a new one.
@chengyunma4497
@chengyunma4497 Год назад
@@excrist1274 It can be an advantage when facing Yuri because most Soviet vehicles have "Heavy" armor. So even if Yuri controlled one of them, it won't do anything significant to your army.
@blagojpejov4155
@blagojpejov4155 3 года назад
Yes good work
@dtluna1312
@dtluna1312 3 года назад
Tesla troopers do in fact prevent power down, but you need at least two near the Tesla coil
@AliensComeback
@AliensComeback 3 года назад
0:00 *reads Egyptian Commanders* In the C&C franchise, Nod's General Hassan is the only most likely Egyptian commander in the entire series, while there are some in Firestorm who could be more likely Egyptians too.
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
Ahem, GLA (and Yuri)
@nomadprime5669
@nomadprime5669 3 года назад
This was the game that got me into CnC. Its so damn good.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Год назад
You didn't mention what I consider the biggest drawback of the Kirov which is it's very long payoff time. It takes a long time before the Kirov has destroyed 2k worth of value.
@JunkyardMech
@JunkyardMech 3 года назад
1) In actual competition, the Terrorist (because of the TerrorFlak) is a much better unit than the Demolition Truck, and Crazy Ivan is more commonly seen than either. The Engineer by itself is actually the main reason that Crazy Ivan is not useful at high level. 2) There is a significant number of competitive maps where the V3 Launcher has more general use than the Kirov. The V3 does not require Tier 3 and is NOT a lategame unit, so you're quite wrong on that slide. 3) The Tesla Trooper is Tier 1, not Tier 2. I see more Flak Troopers than tesla troopers because Rocketeers are such a big part of the meta. 4) The Typhoon Attack Sub is Tier 1, not Tier 2. I also think it has more general use than its rank here would indicate, but it is a very map-sensitive unit. 5) RA2 actually does have a very hard-counter system, it's just not as balanced as RA3's, mostly because of the extreme speed difference between infantry and vehicles. The Tesla Trooper for example is a soft-counter unit that's good against everything, but not cost-effective in damage for its low utility at all. 6) In a game with bad heroes, Boris is the weakest. He is a luxury option except in those rare maps where prism towers and tesla coils are common. 7) You omitted the Amphibious Transport and Engineer! Other than that, good video, I agree with everything. I absolutely LOVE the tutorial animations.
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 2 месяца назад
Boris is the best hero. He actually kills vehicles which is more important that blowing up a base faster. Tanya's C4s do not work if opponent has good tank control.
@RD2rush
@RD2rush 3 года назад
nice video
@johnperea3360
@johnperea3360 3 года назад
4:10 Good when used with Chronosphere, making a Nuke
@dragonstormx
@dragonstormx Год назад
The Kirov was higher than I expected. Most opinions I see say it's too slow and expensive for what it does, with a number of mods at least removing the announcement of its construction.
@shiro214okane
@shiro214okane 3 года назад
i agree on this list as those units i mostly spam and rush after rushing S rank i go seige choppa! its AOE mobility and range is too good.
@NoName-bs5jr
@NoName-bs5jr 3 года назад
Ok it’s not a unit I know, but iron curtain needs to be in S tier. It’s so influential and makes Soviets 10x more dangerous. Iron curtain is number 1 reason why a player in a 1v1 might decide to tech up instead of simply building multiple war factories. At the very least, it needs to be mentioned for how broken it is and one can argue it single handedlay allows soviets to go toe to toe with allies and yuri late game
@nothinggood306
@nothinggood306 3 года назад
If a Superweapon isn't strong (be it Supportive or not), they aren't Superweapon
@NoName-bs5jr
@NoName-bs5jr 3 года назад
@@nothinggood306 what, iron curtain is the best superweapon overall in ra2, idk what your talking about
@nothinggood306
@nothinggood306 3 года назад
@@NoName-bs5jr you clearly misunderstood my sentence
@ayylmao1973
@ayylmao1973 3 года назад
kane's wrath tire list pls
@General-F
@General-F 3 года назад
Fun fact I play as Iraq when I first play skirmish and I play Generals first before this game. The more you know. Now I need a Generals Zero Hour Generals tier list because I can't find one. If you're wondering why I mean is Dr. Thrax is high tier or lower tier?
@MrPhantomPC
@MrPhantomPC 2 года назад
Why isn’t production is globally announced also a pro for the Kirov
@markusvonblech3939
@markusvonblech3939 3 года назад
When is the Allied units tier list?
@wefinishthisnow3883
@wefinishthisnow3883 5 месяцев назад
You forget War Miners = S tier. Also, please remember to include defence structures like Tesla coils.
@waltermarine3248
@waltermarine3248 Год назад
tank spam 2:08 is that the cuban transport
@sufferfr0mlag506
@sufferfr0mlag506 3 года назад
Red alert 2 allied tier list pls
@tamirmashbat3147
@tamirmashbat3147 3 года назад
Hm. Have a question: In yuri's tier list won't there be F tier like allied OP?
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
No F-Tier for Yuri
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 3 года назад
Of course there's no suck units for Yuri... *"Disc in flight" intensifies*
@Magna_Dragon
@Magna_Dragon Год назад
Heroic giant squids instakills units if the boat has half hp
@Nopemp4
@Nopemp4 3 года назад
Dreadnought is the best ship in Pa2! After losing it missiles, it immediately prepares the next ones for launch. An aircraft carrier, after losing its aircraft, requires a recovery time, which is equal to the reload time of the aircraft carrier. Due to its peculiarity, Dreadnought will never let the enemy's anti-aircraft guns rest even for a second!
@racelkatyusha403
@racelkatyusha403 3 года назад
still the tesla tank is OP too but not very seen in in multiplayer
@commanderwookiecopc806
@commanderwookiecopc806 3 года назад
Do the Allies Next
@theopot5798
@theopot5798 7 месяцев назад
A couple of veteran tesla troopers can deal serious damage to tanks with blast damage and killing 2 infantry instantly
@cosmonautyf8161
@cosmonautyf8161 3 года назад
Tesla trooper is T1 unit and flak trooper is T2,that's why flak trooper sucks.
@nothinggood306
@nothinggood306 3 года назад
tbh even if they are T1 they probably will still suck, too slow compared to flak track, and if they nerf flak track no one wouldplay Soviets anymore because of weak AA, unless they buuf flak trooper's movement speed
@cosmonautyf8161
@cosmonautyf8161 3 года назад
@@nothinggood306Probably impossible,anyway their tech requirements,their price,their low AA DPS,their poor survive ability makes them most suck common unit this game.
@shahawsafurrahman426
@shahawsafurrahman426 3 года назад
What is better red alert 2 or 3? For me red alert 3.
@migukmoonpark4312
@migukmoonpark4312 3 года назад
Unlike Sputniks, they will never become an icon *for obvious reasons.*
@n484l3iehugtil
@n484l3iehugtil 3 года назад
Dat terrorist killing General Carville be pretty iconic to me tho
@marvinlalandos773
@marvinlalandos773 3 года назад
@@n484l3iehugtil isn't that crazy ivan tho?
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 3 года назад
1:07 And they said Huskies are cute little goofballs...
@OneCreator87
@OneCreator87 2 года назад
Subs should be a little higher! (a C) I have never lost a naval war when building them in big numbers. They obliterate dolphins and destroyers, especially when there are scorpions in the mix. Apocalypse tanks worked wonders in vanilla against mirages and prisms, but BF and mind control in YR rendered them useless unless you mix them up with more stuff (choppers, IC). Nobody expects flaks filled with tesla troopers and conscripts. You can ram them against an early army to make them run for their lives, then you just focus on destroying the important buildings while the enemy tries to avoid their firing range with speed.
@KelYarbin
@KelYarbin 3 года назад
CRYOCOPTER GUIDE?
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 2 года назад
Its cool my fav infantry unit in the game is S tier.
@spectre9065
@spectre9065 2 месяца назад
3:36 Allied are the race with the worst anti-air, not Soviets. However you can argue soviet AA is the worst against Kirov because their main perk is AOE,
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 2 месяца назад
Rocketeers & Gatling Tanks are S-Tier units you'd spam every game anyways, whereas Soviets have to build a dedicated AA unit (that's very capable, but still). Soviets don't tend to need to build Flak Tracks when mirroring each other, so a surprise Kirov tends to be most effective in that match-up
@jimknopftm8262
@jimknopftm8262 3 года назад
Willthere ever come a video abput yuri or allied for ra2?
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
this week
@jimknopftm8262
@jimknopftm8262 3 года назад
@@xyhc-cnc So awesome *_*
@ChenAnPin
@ChenAnPin 3 года назад
The Terrorist is literally just a faster-moving and cheaper Crazy Ivan, and without any other utility of the Crazy Ivan. Such a wasted faction unit.
@roboxenogaming2047
@roboxenogaming2047 3 года назад
*finnally*
@thenut55555
@thenut55555 3 года назад
didn't v3 rocket require tier 2 ?
@tripixtm490
@tripixtm490 3 месяца назад
I literally Depend A whole Battles with Boris and and apocalypse
@KidBakz
@KidBakz 2 года назад
How is the desilator a rank s unit when you can just use a sniper or a tanya against it?
@moebino2685
@moebino2685 2 года назад
RA2 meta is tank spam and a desolator deals so much dmg to enemy tanks, people use flak truck loaded with desolators to do a desolate bomb which will melt enemy tanks then you just win using your rhino tanks
@reaperwithnoname
@reaperwithnoname 2 года назад
If your first instinct to counter a unit is to either give up Airborne/Grand Cannons or throw a hero unit at it, then it's definitely S-Tier.
@analesaronquillo538
@analesaronquillo538 2 года назад
The thing is for me I tried to 1 on 1 the Siege Chopper (deployed) vs. Apocalypse, I was very surprised that the Deployed Siege Chopper can defeat Apocalypse, The Apocalypse seems not damaged the chopper. But Rhino can defeat the Chopper easily
@brd5964
@brd5964 3 года назад
a kirov army can also be relatively easily ripped apart by some of the allied aegis ships
@n484l3iehugtil
@n484l3iehugtil 3 года назад
The Kirovs would need to fly over water (or at least be close to it) tho
@brd5964
@brd5964 3 года назад
@@n484l3iehugtil yeah its dependant of the map
@DiscusvissenRocken
@DiscusvissenRocken 3 года назад
rocketeers tear them to shreds as well but yeah if they have to cross water with aegis in there they are fucked. aegis demolish anything airborne within seconds
@Kikematamitos
@Kikematamitos Год назад
Also tier vs allied can be different as tier vs soviet or Yuri
@shaggyalonso
@shaggyalonso Год назад
'Cannot grapple boomers because they respect the elderly'
@micheal2bro
@micheal2bro 2 года назад
In my opinion Regarding soviet: Boris should be S Giant squad A or S Kirov A Flak F Flak tank C Conscript C Apocalypse A or S Regarding allies: Prism tank S Rocketter A IFV S (especially for promoted one) Yuri Floating disc S Brutes D Mind control B Boomer submarine A
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
You must never play against human, apoc/kirov/prism are only good against computer. For pvp, prism is not that good, and apoc and kirov are just trash
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 3 года назад
It’s Lasher Tank, not Laser
@rod_official6166
@rod_official6166 3 года назад
lmfao the squid cons about the boomers lol
@muhammadyudhi1338
@muhammadyudhi1338 3 года назад
Damn man i was think Apocalypse Tank and Demolition Truck was should be in A Tier list rather than C, because these unit was making Soviet so OP beside Dreadnought and Kirov Airship. And i was grateful that Crazy Ivan not in F Tier Even Typhoon Attack Sub in D Tier, but at least they have pros: Can beat Destroyer 1 on 1 duel
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
apoc A tier? you must always play against computer, never against human, pvp apoc is just useless
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 2 года назад
@@itaymaoz7498 its biggest weakness isn't its cost but its inability to fire while moving, its as if they were only balanced for RA2 but not Yuri once the Battle fortress became a thing making the Apocs completely religated to Bunker Buster defensive unit, but for the later and former there are better options and its better to use them as a destraction to protect more important units. (C tier is ok for it as if you managed to have caped and allied base you can use him to shield Prisms with its thick armor.)
@muhammadyudhi1338
@muhammadyudhi1338 3 года назад
You said Demolition Truck was slow And then What about Bomb Truck?
@marvinlalandos773
@marvinlalandos773 2 года назад
GLA bomb truck is definetly not slow
@migukmoonpark4312
@migukmoonpark4312 3 года назад
TIL Engineers could defuse bombs.
@2farawaytime
@2farawaytime 3 года назад
V3 is tier 2.
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
oops
@2farawaytime
@2farawaytime 3 года назад
You might end up like tg now. lol
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
Napat Treetewawongsa lol
@johnariespepito6252
@johnariespepito6252 5 месяцев назад
You never yet seen the power of a siege chopper you'll just need to spam them they are more more dangerous when they spam they have high damage when many
@x-peacekeeper-x2500
@x-peacekeeper-x2500 3 года назад
3:05 Lmao😂
@medianxx4687
@medianxx4687 3 года назад
Mental Omega Tier list.
@beefyblom
@beefyblom Год назад
A bit too harsh on tesla tanks - Just because desolators are so widespread doesn't mean teslas should share a tier with the worst unit in the game, especially since you didn't put the somewhat-redundant demotrucks there either.
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc Год назад
It's not about how good the unit is. It's about its competitive use cases and viability, which Demo Truck has plenty of and Tesla Tank has absolutely none.
@beefyblom
@beefyblom Год назад
@@xyhc-cnc I'll take your word on that but it still feels wrong to put it in the same tier as the terrorist
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc Год назад
@@beefyblom it does feel wrong indeed
@has199
@has199 2 года назад
Tesla Troopers are tier 1 Im pretty sure
@Kikematamitos
@Kikematamitos Год назад
You never watch the cuba caboom that i make sometimes? but is situational and not competititve tactic
@Sherlock-Eco
@Sherlock-Eco 3 года назад
Squids can't be mind controlled due to they are animals but then why they are Mind Controlled animals by Story? Yuri can't mind control an aleady mind controlled enemy for some reason?
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
I've wanted to make a theory on that since a month ago now
@meowistforlife
@meowistforlife 3 года назад
The least surprising thing on this list is V-3 being d tier
@marvinlalandos773
@marvinlalandos773 2 года назад
and the terrorists being F-tier
@kellereclub3828
@kellereclub3828 Год назад
Here are my agreements and disagreements. My opinions assume we are ignoring Industrial Plant exists - because with Industrial Plant, things get into a complicated and non-objective area where no proper discussion is possible. E.g. like is the unit in this tier only because of Industrial Plant? - does it even deserve to be there if not for Industrial Plant? - etc. S-tier: If there is an S-tier for the Soviet units containing Rhinos and Desos, place the Prism Tank in there and you're gonna need more tiers above S-tier. Otherwise yes, relative for Soviet units, Desos and Rhinos belong here. Terror Drone: Pops too quickly for that 500 cost. GIs, Gattling, Prism, Mirage. Pretty situational and does not have the all-roundedness of Rhinos and Desos so how can they share the tier with the Rhino? Sure there are situations where they're annoyingly strong but also situations they're sitting ducks -level weak. Siege Chopper: Does not share the tier with the likes of Conscripts, Flak Tracks, Dreadnoughts. Not versatile enough. The need to take 5 secs to deploy takes that away from them. So no, they'd have to go lower down. Their cannons are nothing big anyway unless en masse, and en masse requires too must cost - Siege Choppers ARE NOT cost efficient units. Siege Choppers are not Terran Siege Tanks -level kinda strong. They require Battle Lab. No. Just no. They'd have to go down lower. Dreadnought: I'm sitting on a fence. You didn't put them in the highest tier - I agree with you on that. But are they in the 2nd tier, though? They're strong in many cases and are defo not situational. But - in AI games they're pretty weak when the enemy already starts off with plenty of AA. I've seen their dark side though. I've seen enough situations where Dreadnoughts are weak, enough to reconsider putting them lower in tier level. But in most situations or rather in normal scenarios they're the strong units we know and love. But I'll sit on this decision and just let this pass for now. Attack Dog: I don't think they're in 2nd tier. Unlike Conscripts who're all rounded and Flak Tracks who handle air and double as anti-infantry, dogs only handle 1 thing and they're the 1-trick pony just specializing in 1 thing. I'll put them lower but after going through a lot of reluctance. Another justification is that since I've dropped Terror Drone lower into 2nd tier, then it follows the dog gets pushed down to 3rd tier. I'm sorry, it was a tough call but that's my conclusion. Boris: Doesn't share a tier with Giant Squid or Kirov. He's only there in 3rd tier because of nostalgia of the campaign or because he's so cool. Get over that nostalgia. Giant Squid and Sea Scorpion: I'll do this 2 at a time. They have to be upgraded to the same tier as the Dreadnought. In fact I find Giant Squid and Sea Scorpions, though weaker than Dreadnoughts and lacking in apparent show of power, I find them to be more versatile and cost efficient than Dreadnoughts. If anything, Giant Squid and Sea Scorpions are at least on par with Dreadnoughts or even higher. The only real counter to the Giant Squid is the Dolphin whereas Dreadnoughts are countered by more stuff like AA and C4s. The Sea Scorpion is fast, cheap, godly versus air, can force fire on water to kill SEALs and Dolphins. Way too versatile for its cost. Apocalypse: I agree with Apocs in 4th tier. Below Kirovs. Tesla Troopers: Does not belong on par with Apocs. Go down lower. In fact they belong to hell. Even if they cost half price at 250, they'd only still be a tier below Apocs - that's - 5th tier. I'm strong about this opinion. If they cost 250 and have doubled damage at 100, and doubled health at 260, and were immune to dogs, then yes - into 4th tier Tesla Troopers go with Apocs. Thank you. Demolition Truck: Would go way down with the Tesla Trooper. They also belong to hell. If they cost half price at 750 then yes - into 4th tier Tesla Troopers go with Apocs. Thank you. Flak Trooper and V3: Kind of at home here at 5th tier. I think I agree. No wait - I saw Submarines in 5th tier too. I'd place Flak Trooper and V3 a tier below Subs - into 6th tier they go. Thank you. Submarines: Yes they belong here in 5th tier. I agree. I think Boris comes down here to 5th tier. Boris would be 5th tier at best. Tesla Tanks: Yes they belong here in 6th tier. I agree. Flak Trooper and V3 would join them here, and be at home in 6th tier. 7th tier aka G tier: Tesla Trooper and Demo Trucks come here. 8th tier aka H tier: Reserved for Ivans and Cubans. EDIT: Minor typos and grammar errors.
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc Год назад
Some pretty good points! I did not place Prism Tank in S-tier; This list is only for competitive games - AI games are not considered;
@kellereclub3828
@kellereclub3828 Год назад
@@xyhc-cnc Oh great. Let me go over there and see. Oh only for competitive? Then yes, Prisms are not in S-tier.
@takitakcvl7070
@takitakcvl7070 3 года назад
Soon, Mental Omega Soviet tier list. Haha.
@Drake77Warlord
@Drake77Warlord 3 года назад
Oh no I'm in D :(
@Xeplen
@Xeplen 3 года назад
rhino tank-S Apocalypse-C Ive seen enough shit.
@rulue8610
@rulue8610 3 года назад
Apocalypse tank should be in S tier because it's more powerful.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 3 года назад
This is merely a list for every unit's frequency of use in the competitive scene... In general, sure... But the Apocalypse Tank's tier level here indicates it's not used much in a competitive match... I mean why go far up the tech tree when Rhinos have already taken care of the meat?...
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
You must never play against human, apoc is only good against computer (except yuri). Pvp is just trash
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
@@louievelayo4100 and rhinos are harder to counter, apocs are more easily to get rekt by terror drones, yuris & magnetrons
@Power_Soon_yaya--9804
@Power_Soon_yaya--9804 3 года назад
I feel that you copied from website that has something inaccurate.
@xyhc-cnc
@xyhc-cnc 3 года назад
I did remember some things wrong. I never copy from websites.
@seanchen7391
@seanchen7391 3 года назад
I hope everyone can go play Mental Omega to see how glorious the Apocalypse tanks are. Of course super hard to get them due to the mechanism, but they can steamroll everything you face. And unfortunately the Desolators are also kind of OP in Mental Omega too :P
@marvinlalandos773
@marvinlalandos773 2 года назад
I think they buffed the desolator damage output against armored vehicles, although their ability to irradiate the surrounding area has been nerfed. For the apocalypse tank, i definetly agree.
@nizzystorm7067
@nizzystorm7067 3 года назад
BF and Apoc have the exact same speed. Just worth saying.
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
bf can attack move, apoc can't. also apoc is slow to accelerate, i.e. slow to reach its full speed, and thus appears slower than BF
@nizzystorm7067
@nizzystorm7067 2 года назад
@@itaymaoz7498 Not if you know how to control it and with the 2.0 balance patch they can auto shoot.
@handanyldzhan9232
@handanyldzhan9232 Месяц назад
Wrong. tgSacred did a video about movement speed. The BF and Prism have the exact same speed, the Apoc is a bit slower.
@nizzystorm7067
@nizzystorm7067 Месяц назад
@@handanyldzhan9232 Not wrong, Check ini files and you'll see they both have speed 4. The only reason it's "Slower" is because it needs to accelerate. But at full speed they are both the same speed.
@handanyldzhan9232
@handanyldzhan9232 Месяц назад
@@nizzystorm7067 I'm not gonna link the video because RU-vid warns me whenever I link something to back up my points for some reason, but he explained that it's a bit different for vehicles. In that video, you can see that it's simple for infantry: more base speed and lighter armor type = faster movement. But it's more complicated for vehicles, which is why you see stuff like V3s having acceleration mechanics, the Rhino being faster than the Tank Destroyer despite having the exact same base speed and armor type (both with no accel). There seem to be some hard-coded elements to speed (ignoring possibly weight or acceleration). The BF in the race had the same speed as the Prism Tank (despite different armor types), and both were a bit faster than the Apoc. And I didn't notice any acceleration data in the Apoc section of the ini unlike with the V3, which also has the same top speed as the BF & Prism.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 3 года назад
Boris is Thalassophobic?... Oh right, he can't swim...
@gethk.gelior4214
@gethk.gelior4214 3 года назад
Frankly I don't think YR is really competitive……
@itaymaoz7498
@itaymaoz7498 2 года назад
Competitvely, Irap > Yuri > France/America > other countries
@iseeallforme
@iseeallforme 3 года назад
*Cannot grapple boomers (because they respect the elderly)* Ok boomer
@dysenteryking9034
@dysenteryking9034 3 года назад
i dont care how bad they are terrorists are fun and losing the game is a price im willing to pay for getting to laugh at my friends who get blown to hell with flak rushes in LAN games
@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht
@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht 3 года назад
So Krukov being Boris is Canon now? Well, it's more of a shame Cherdenko betrayed him then.
@comradekirov7788
@comradekirov7788 3 года назад
well, krukov attacked first, cherdenko just defended himself by commanding us to kill krukov
@konanan1000
@konanan1000 3 года назад
Thalassophobic xD
@vaximillian9460
@vaximillian9460 3 года назад
Seeing combat huskies always makes me laugh hysterically. Combat. Huskies.
@HuangGengran
@HuangGengran 3 года назад
renal man uses only Kirov
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