You're not alone, dude. Purchased it on DVD years ago. Play it from time to time. And it's the reason why "Never No More" is my favorite Patsy Cline song.
@KickethAsseth - For me, the best moment of the "Who Monitors the birds" episode was when he tore up his Honorable Discharge papers before moving to exfiltration. It seems that he realized that he had been fighting to survive since he was hatched, and that was what made him human. To accept the discharge and quietly go away to a civillian life would be accepting the Angel of Death he had resisted thus far. Awesome Epic Episode!
For me it symbolizes that he now stays by choice not because of some judge telling him to. The wild cards are the closest thing to a family he has now.
first time watching the show was this episode, was channel hoping and landed on the scene in the ships rec room with this song playing, of course HAD to stop to listen to Patsy, now have the complete series on dvd
@kickethasseth, It is suggested in the series that the Chigs first encountered the Silicates, who convinced the Chigs that humans were encroaching on their territory. This enabled the Silicates to manipulate the Chigs into attacking. The River of Stars episode seemed to indicate to me that there would eventually be a truce between Humans and Chig, and they were on that path in the last episode till the bomb detonated at the negotiations. The Chigs were indeed aware of the Human/Chig kinship.
Nostalgia and bluesy escapism this song is...takes me back to the show which I only watched recently...P.S. Joblo channel did a video on it which is how I found it
This show was way ahead of its time. Still pissed they cut it short. Funny i remember when it first aired T.V. guide would review all the new shows and it said Space Above and Beyond would be the best series to be cancelled. Go watch the new Battlestar Galactica and you'll see Space Above and Beyond running throughout that show, Ronald D. Moore definitely watched Space Above and Beyond and was heavily influenced by the grittiness of the show.
@KickethAsseth I Second cvmex. You make it and I'll pay to go see it AND buy 5 copies of the DVD! "Who Monitors The Birds?" was one of my favorite episodes of the show. I loved the concepts of artificial life and cloning in Space Above And Beyond. The idea that one sentence of programming "Take A Chance" could set of such a chain reaction is amazing.
@kickethasseth rumour out there is they were all set to do it, but it was right when Starship Troopers came out and it had a bit more sex appeal in it so they went with it instead. Because Lord knows we very well can't have TWO kickass sci-fi movies come out back to back or even at the same time! That would just upset the balance of everything...
@JAGTHEGEMINI It was not the plane whom they called Chiggy von Richthofen,actually it was the chig pilot, in reference to the german WW I pilot Manfred from Richthofen.
scifi shouldve pick it up again... maybe with a new crop of actors having the 4 survivors be squadion commanders or something... i mean look how long BSG rocked it
Well, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now. Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. And when I get back, I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtofen's blood and celebrate his death. WHOO-AAAAAAAA!
@kickethasseth, SUMMARY.. Like I said it is kinda freaky, you can clip and paste as needed, but its a good base to start with and accomplishes 2 things: 1) Ends the war with the "Real" Chigs. 2) It keeps the action going in the form of the original plot of Nathan trying to get his girl back! Maybe you can write in that the super soldier conversion process is partially reversible. I thought it would be ironic that Vansen who hates the Silicates, has her life saved by Silicate technology. N-Joy!
@kickethasseth, The Chigs knew that we "Evolved Our Separate Ways". But we humans had to discover this for ourselves. Were it not for the Silicates, we may not have discovered it for a long while.
@kickethasseth, I don't think it would work for all of the cast. The AOD in "Who Monitors The Birds" was a personal thing for Hawkes. Like I noted, Hawkes had been fighting for his life since he was hatched. All of the individual carachters had a moment of truth. Nathan losing his girlfriend and trying to get her back, Hawkes almost being murdered for asking questions, Shane's hate for the silicates, McQueen's Dogfight, Wang's Confession, Damphouse's ESP.
yea i never get why a season 2 didnt come to light. such an amazing show, script, characters, element all came together and meshed.. but like someone said starship troopers was coming out anda movie about the future regarding nazi's seemed more plausible... yes nazi's fled to argentina after ww2.. setting for starship.. buenos aires... uniforms gray like the nazis.. even the rank insignia was similar.. the bird for the sstroopers reminded me of hitler bird... haha
@kickethasseth, If you want to write something freaky, how about this... Damphouse and Vansen survive the crash on the Chig homeworld. Damphouse is in a coma, but Vansen is severely damaged. They are found by the Chig civilian authorities who as a gesture of kindness for not killing the Chig hatchlings, force the silicates to repair Vansen with silicate technology, limbs, eyes, organs etc. and stabilize Damphouse who remains in a coma. CONTINUED NEXT POST..
@19xNiebieskix20 prawdziwą przyczyną braku sezonu 2 było "pojście za daleko" w scenariuszu i rezyserii. Konkretnie chodziło o odcinek " Who Monitors The Birds". Był to pstryczek rezysera w kierunku rządu USA. (instrumentalne i przedmiotowe wykorzystywanie ludzi "żołnierzy", co dziwne rząd zrozumiał aluzję) Dyrektor wykonawczy 20th Century Fox miał powiedziec później, że "nigdy Wam na to więcej nie pozwolimy"... i się skończyło (c) jaroslawdudek@filmweb ;]
@kickethasseth, CONTINUED... The Chig civilian authorities learn that the silicates have a "Copy" of Wang's DNA and memory imprint which was recorded during his interrogation, and use human cloning technology to clone a copy of him with his memory imprint, but the memory imprint process is not perfect, memory bits and pieces are missing and he must re-learn who he was (like Spock did in Star Trek). SEE CONTINUED PART 3...
@Furzkampfbomber Deutsch gell? Anyway, Ich denke schon, dass das Raumschiff gemeint ist wegen den drei "Verstrebungen", wie beim Flugzeug von Richthofen mit den drei Deckern.
@kickethasseth, PART 4... Damphouse's vital intel info yields that the Rogue Chig elements and the silicates were successfully working together on hybrid Human-Chig-Silicate super soldiers, and used the prisoners from the telus colony, who by now are well on their way back to EARTH! The Chig civilian authorities are ashamed and horrified to learn this, and pledge to help Earth forces stop the super soldiers. And now Humans and Chigs fight side by side to stop the impending attack. SEE SUMMARY.
@Furzkampfbomber Na ja, vielleicht hast du ja recht. Hab immer eher das Raumschiff mit Richthofen in Verbindung gebracht, und nicht den "Chick"-Piloten direkt.
@JAGTHEGEMINI Yup, deutsch. Und das wäre sicher auch eine Idee, aber erstens wäre das schon ein recht ungewöhnlicher Name für eine Maschine und zweitens meint McQueen ja, dass er seine Flasche Scotch trinken würde, als wäre es Chiggy von Richthofens Blut. watch?v=yZ7lBYma-IQ Etwa ab Beginn der zweiten Minute, was eine geile Rede. :D
Think about 1 quote when i see that clip: Well, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now. Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. And when I get back, I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtofen's blood and celebrate his death.
@KickethAsseth - For me, the best moment of the "Who Monitors the birds" episode was when he tore up his Honorable Discharge papers before moving to exfiltration. It seems that he realized that he had been fighting to survive since he was hatched, and that was what made him human. To accept the discharge and quietly go away to a civillian life would be accepting the Angel of Death he had resisted thus far. Awesome Epic Episode!
@KickethAsseth I Second cvmex. You make it and I'll pay to go see it AND buy 5 copies of the DVD! "Who Monitors The Birds?" was one of my favorite episodes of the show. I loved the concepts of artificial life and cloning in Space Above And Beyond. The idea that one sentence of programming "Take A Chance" could set of such a chain reaction is amazing.
@KickethAsseth I Second cvmex. You make it and I'll pay to go see it AND buy 5 copies of the DVD! "Who Monitors The Birds?" was one of my favorite episodes of the show. I loved the concepts of artificial life and cloning in Space Above And Beyond. The idea that one sentence of programming "Take A Chance" could set of such a chain reaction is amazing.
