Space Engineers 2 Development Water Flooding Planet - News Update 

I'm on the fence between "wait and see " and "shut up and take my money!" I'm very satisfied with the value I've received from Keen and Space Engineers. Unless SE2 ends up being uncharacteristically expensive, I'll likey jump at the chance if/when it eventually arrives.

If they have fluid dynamics, maybe we could have physicalised fuel so you build your own fuel tanks into ships which can be damaged and leak

I think a lot of people forget that space engineers has been around since 2013, the technology to do all the insane things that everyone wants in 2024 didn't exist then and expecting them to wring it out of a decade old product is pure insanity, especially when it comes to criticism of developing the new technologies that would actually allow them to do what's being asked for. I spent £30 to buy space engineers and have 2000 hours on it between large servers, single player, creative and a 5-10 player PvE server I've hosted over the last year. I don't think I really have any other games from which I've gotten that kind of value for money except maybe minecraft Java which I bought for £15 fairly early on (though I don't have hours for that it's probably similar)

A simple campaign would be nice. - You are travelling to X planet to work, fresh from the space engineer academy and something goes wrong. - your ship crashes on another planet, an AI guides you to survive. - Grand objective: go to your original destination. - Now the AI gives you objectives all coming toward that goal. Build a rover of at least xxx psu, build a refinery outpost, find a specific mineral, set a comms station at x coordinates, build a ship that can get to space and return - For storys sake we could have certain events, like, to get coordinates for the next lo action, you have to find and explore an abandoned outpost. Or to unlock a certain technology. - and this goes and goes covering all existing features and technologies. Mine on planets, break into space, re entry, space mining, trading, combat and finally long distance jumps. We could have space pirates part of the story, being an obstacle. Or use the spiders for a little horror. It would be just a list of objectives that pump our problem solving skills. The little campaign would end with you and a modest sized ship jumping and arriving to your original destination.

Not gonna lie, I haven't seen a single person who hates on space engineers. Even the group who would have the most right to hate on space engineers, the console players, don't hate on it. We just want the problems fixed and most of the problems come from consoles it's self, not space engineers.

Xocliw said on stream that they want to see through on Space Engineers since the new engine is another 5~ish years out. Keen has been engine limited ever since they added planets in the first place, so I'm excited to see what a whole new engine built with a massive scope in mind will mean for a new game's possibilities.

If they added evaporation and raining that would refill water level on a planet it would be extremely awesome. It would technically allow for constantly flowing waterfalls, or maybe changing periods of droughts and floods.

really dont mind them doing SE2 and "abandoning SE1. For the long run its good that the game gets a well deserved sequel. its going to be fine as long as most of the core features from SE1 is transferred to SE2. DLC items are going to be a difficult topic, rerelease them as new dlc? integrate them into base game? not have them at all? The DLC items are a huge foundation to the game which without the game becomes shallow and its going to be a whole another challenger for keen

I know it’s in development but that water looks like slushie

It would be cool if they throw in some true stories, goals, and NPC. The users that don't want those things can play without them, but the users that are new to the game and don't know what to do will enjoy the game a lot more. And yes the performance of SE1 can be annoying. Especially since you can create your own server but even just you and your friend can sometimes cause issues. Looking forward to what they come up with.

I do think Keen knows better than to want to break any Engineers heart. Space Engineers can be whatever we do with it. Everything we get additionally from Keen is bonus. I love what they are still creating. And I love what every Space Engineer and I are still creating.

I like what I'm seeing in these updates, but as a SPACE engineering game, I'd love them to emphasize on space aspects such as proper orbital mechanics and thrust forces that not always go through the center of mass of their respective vehicles.

Gonna start saving up for SE2. Been playing 01 for years -still playing :) Can't wait for 02-oh and the clang that'll follow of course :)

There are still people acting like SE isn't "complete"?? That blows my mind. It's been complete for years lol.

been playing for almost 8 years, i trust keen

You make some really good points about players' expectations and frustrations with SE performance, in larger battles etc. I'll always reiterate that this is an expectation management problem. By giving the players too much access to the game engine, Keen have actually negatively reframed their game to look worse than it is. While I too have built my share of 100K+ PCU ships (including a 1:1 scale model of the Kushan Homeworld mothership), I realize that what Keen have done is give us a game where they explicitly take off the engine limiters if we opt for experimental mode. If this were a tightly controlled experience on rails, like what you'd typically get from any AAA game, there would be NO experimental mode option. Presto, no room to complain about engine limits. AAA studios know that they only have X amount of system resource bandwidth, so they usually prioritize a good player experience by heavily restricting what the player can see and experience -- in effect, we are never allowed to see the man behind the curtain, performance-wise. AAA studios have positively framed these controlled, limited player experiences as being the best that a player can get to see. But b/c here we get to see the actual limits of the SE / VRAGE2 engine, people are complaining about being given too much freedom to push (or break) the limits of the engine. This is the kind of thing that passionate nerds do -- throwing the doors wide open for everyone to run in and be free to misinterpret what they experience in whatever way they want. Just follow Keen's own server PCU limits, instead of trying to shoehorn an elephant into a corset. Or for specific tournament events, maybe use an even tighter PCU limit if you want to prioritize performance. There are plenty of specific exceptions to this, like your example of too many H2 thrusters in one place. I'd love to see and somewhat expect that with an additional 10 years' experience on Keen's side and 10 years of hardware/software advancement in general, a hypothetical SE2 would be better able to handle that kind of thing gracefully. Maybe 100K PCU per player, instead of only 25K PCU (or as I'm personally hoping for, a more dynamic method of allocating PCU-type resources). Or being able to handle 500 H2 thruster conveyor connections and fuel updates in a scene, instead of only 100 or whatever. But without willingness and acceptance on the part of the players to work within the then-current limits of whatever game engine, we'll STILL end up with players in 2050 complaining about how terrible VRAGE4 is for SE3 and how come they can't build a 1:1 scale replica of Coruscant with Star Citizen style surface to orbit seamless transitions? Game simulations will ALWAYS be more limited than players' imaginations, and figuring out how to creatively work within the available limits has to be a part of the creative process instead of wishing for tomorrow's processing bandwidth today. Within the current limits of SE, I see so many ship designs that slap dozens of small thrusters all over (and that often use dozens of high-PCU blocks for purely cosmetic greebling), and I place the blame squarely on lazy player builds and blindly following the rule of cool. To mitigate the known shortcomings of the current engine, if only there were something larger, more powerful, that could consolidate the performance of say every 5 or 6 small thrusters? Hmm, how about a LARGE H2 thruster? Either work within the limits of using fewer but larger thrusters (greebling them to fit them into a design's aesthetics), or else build a smaller, lighter ship that doesn't need as much thrust and can use only small thrusters. There are a good number of smart, low-PCU ship examples on the workshop that cleverly use 1-PCU blocks for greebling for some great looks, style, gameplay, as well as relatively light performance impact. The empty world problem is separate, and I would love to see Keen put more effort into using their scenario builder tools to flesh out more complete game worlds or modes with entire solar system-spanning campaigns or open world exploration. I realize that an SE open world with POIs and NPCs/ships to interact with would have to pretty aggressively spawn/despawn grids around the player. The more stuff around the player to make the world feel alive, the more aggressive the grid control would have to be -- like how GTA will de/spawn anything outside of the player's field of view and outside a certain very tight radius.

I've got north of 2500 hrs in this game for like $70 USD (maybe?). Keen can have my money whenever they are ready. I don't ever expect a finished product in a game like this. Something like Doom or MW or even BG3, those games should be finished (or at least as close as you can get) for release. Space Engineers should continuously improve (even though this is probably a completely unrealistic goal).

I was active on the early Keen forums when Marek was posting ideas and pictures before the game launched on Alpha even pitching ideas and stuff, I consider myself a DieHard SE fan and you are absolutely correct, the majority level headed fans are silent, myself currently sitting in the wait and see camp, I follow Jan on twitter and its always a joy to see what interesting things he is cooking up. Personally I'm stoked and will happily pay full price for an SE2 to support them but I do remember Jan saying its likely another 2 years away in a reply on twitter so I wouldn't hold our breaths. Personally a must for me though is some goals and good AI stuff for 2 as SE1 does feel like a big tech demo of potential and a little too sandbox at times but i'm sure that's already pipelined so i'm not worried, just sit back and enjoy his content that he kindly shares ^^

I just hope the new engine allows us to do more battles a physics shenanigans rather than just having some laggy goop on the ground.

I don't know what to think about SE2. SE1 was a tech demo. It was never supposed to be a game. That's why it feels like a box of Legos. I want any sequel to be a game, with things to do, not just another multiplayer driven tech demo. But the updates we are getting seem to be showing that it's just going to be a bigger box of Legos. I like my bigger box of Legos, but I won't be happy with it. Does that make sense?

I'm going to call it now. SE2 will set records. My PC can barely run SE1 now so hopefully I can save up enough for a suitable PC before it comes out. (takes me awhile being disabled). I imagine we're at least a year out. Maybe 2. But i know nothing about development.

I just hope for SE2 they make the pve as good as empyrion's or even better and make large-scale pvp possible with little to no lag.

I love space engineers and I hope I'm wrong but there is a lot of focus on water physics for a space game. Too much even. I would expect to see more realistic gravity, aerodynamics and planetary orbits. If I was making a sequel to SE, this isn't where my focus would be. Edit: just read the newsletter and am I bit more optimistic seeing the work they are putting into construction models

you forgot the invisible 4th group. the group that plays solo games and have massive worlds built, to be fair i never knew about the hydro thrusters issue because i dont play multiplayer and i rarely use hydro thrusters

I think the water simulation is not really worth the hassle. I mean as cool as it sounds there are just a couple of game engines where they do it right and it is always very performance costly. In game of such a scope as Space Engineers I don't think it will add up that much. Fluids in sandbox games are probably the hardest thing to do in my opinion and only focusing on that would eat up a budget for a whole AAA game. And let's be honest - performance should be their main focus as it takes away a lot of gameplay possibilities from the current game (having to be so strict on PCU etc, or even the hydrogen engine stuff mentioned in the video) Also toning down the clang would be nice :) And as long as it gets some graphical upgrades I would be happy just with this.

The way I see it SE as it currently sits is running as best it can on its engine thats going on 11 years old. Its outgrown the engine it was built in and they are looking to make an engine that can handle it. And they cant just swap the engine over this late in the game without the community turning on them for destroying all the mods and many blueprints that were designed with/for the old engine.

I love the idea of water, and all, but there is no way in hell fluid dynamics is going to work without the game having massive performance issues. The calculations required are insane for it to work well, even single player. Technology may be improving, but not at that scale yet. To even consider the calculations even roughly worth including, the rest of the graphics would have to take a significant hit. We are talking about a game that already has performance issues for crashing into things, and definitely getting the calculations very wrong.

SE1 was probably the most worked on and updated game ever. With that being said, it's time to move on and with the new technology, come the new scale, come the new game. Even though I have the game, DLCs and so on, I see the limitations are there with every update. New game is eventually a better way for everyone

For me, I tend to be a little skeptical of feature creep. I've always been a bit miserly when it comes to my PC-buying, and what I'm running on currently has gotten to the point of not running SE terribly well. As such, I was rather excited at the announcement of V-Rage 3, since a purpose-built game engine should be miles ahead in terms of performance. Where I start getting skeptical is when they start adding destructible pieces to blocks, and water physics, which are great in theory, but might end up requiring a beefier computer than what is needed currently. My SE2 wish-list is more along the lines of sorting out clang, being able to have off-angle parts on a ship that don't mess with thrust, and having a build-grid that lets you have pieces that are a half-block offset from each other. Not that I don't like eye candy, but for me, increased functionality is the best kind of form.

Hey LSG, I just would like to say that I appreciate you making these types of update-ish videos. So many times, when I'm watching them, I think to myself "the Devs need to see this", because you really understand the community and what it needs, which is awesome! I think you're right in that there is a very vocal group of people that may make the most noise, but don't represent everyone, and I worry that they may get more attention that what's really warranted. So, I just want to say thanks for making these videos, I think they give a great perspective on the bigger picture.

Keen might not run the extra mile in their updates but one is sure, this company respects its customers much more than AAA Studios. Leaving Medieval Engineers was sad but SE has the brighter future. After 10 years the average player count 24h is 6,745. Thats solid! 5€ for supportive DLCs is a good deal for both. SE is finished and still maintained... I totally with a full price SE2 (even early access, since keen prove they can create amazing stuff)

I'm not disappointed in SE1 its taken them a long time to develop the game, and I personally assume that all features in SE1 will eventually make a return in SE2 given the fact that they could likely just copy most of their own homework. SE1 will be in my mind feature complete as they've teased the idea of a proper GOAL coming to the game in the next year as they've been working heavily on AI and teasing a new class of blocks I have a feeling SE2 is going to be what SE1 took years to be, and more. Definitely going to try SE2 (assuming no MAJOR issues are unveiled) its an extremely interesting product as its taken a focus on being as physically accurate as it possibly can. I think SE2 is going to be one of my favorite Sci-Fi games. Obviously I'm holding my hopes high for this title but thats because from a development standpoint they could absolutely pull it off. The only issue being if they take the greedy route and try to hold features for ransom as DLC.

I will totally buy a new Space Engineers. Sure, it will be sad to see it go not matter how Keen handles the transition. But after all those years, our former space ship crash simulator has gone as far as its engine will take it (just saying: ropes...) And what if it isnt really an end? What if they were to release it more as a 2.0, a big 202x revamp of the same game, like big non-gaming software tends to do? Maybe even let us import our blueprints and worlds?

Space engineers (1) is at the height of what is possible with it and the reason is simply that the engine is already stretched to its furthest. There is simply a point where it is not cost effective anymore to improve an engine, especially because it will always have a lot of legacy costs. Some things the engine does are simply not compatible with more modern technologies and rewriting it piece by piece will take longer and therefore cost more than just building it up from the ground. This way, you can even get rid of some longer running bugs that are simply too deep inside the engine to fix anymore. Therefore, I really support them building a new engine, to make a possible SE2 with it. Also, SE is feature complete for years now. They did everything they promised and more. That they further improve the game at all shows how dedicated they are to their game and the community. They don't have to and do it anyways (probably because they didn't have anything else for many years [let's ignore Medival engineers], but that doesn't deminish their work)

tbh, as someone who is unable to afford high quality (or even medium quality) gaming setups, my only hope for space engineers 2 is that it will run better than the first game. I enjoy playing space engineers, but it is quite laggy + low fps on my pc. So if they get a new version that can run more efficiently, that is all I need to be happy.

Pirate AI complete overhaul for SE1 and SE2 would be nice, RNG Planet pirates/stations as well as space, make them less r*eta*ded have more loot in containers as well. More life would add lots of gameplay hours.

imagine if they used the "jello" water physics for underground fuel/ Oil lakes or for toxic fluid lakes on the alien planet?

Im on the wait and see boat. Like i love SE to the tune of 1500+ hours ingame, so by that metric, it's my best value game by far. But it is the community that makes it special. The game on its own leaves a lot to be desired.

I think it's safe to say when SE2 is released, development for SE1 will be finished considering what happened to Medieval Engineers.

Space Engineers is full of great ways to creatively solve problems and create interesting means of transportation, but unfortunately there are hardly any interesting problems or destinations that make sense to go to. There are many interesting ways to mine and it's worth going into space for platinum. But that's about it. For me, this game is always something that I can't wait to play and create, but then I always get bored because it's so-so empty.

SPACE Engineers. Planets are kinda cool, but I've been against them from the very beginning. Instead of a great space-based game, we got a clunky one, with clunky planets. (And Medieval Engineers, lets' not forget). I'd rather they go back focusing on space, buildings ships, bases, mining asteroids, discovering wrecks..etc. All that more refined.

Still burned by Medieval Engineers.

My biggest fears/issues/hopes with SE2 are... -A Lack of substance, a reason to fight forward, to survive, to construct different vehicles/machines. (We need an END GOAL! I think there NEEDS to be a Subnautica-esque "knocked off course, stranded on alien planet" type of story with an ending of either success or failure at getting back to your home system.) -A lack of things to fight, shooting ships is boring. We need PROPER NPC's, maybe some of them could be voice acted? We need enemy ground assaults on player bases/vehicles. (And maybe like... Code it so that they don't cause massive performance issues like they do in SE1??? Idk, I can't have more than a few enemies in my game at a time, no matter the planet, without it causing major performance issues.) -More multiplayer friendly performance. DESPERATELY wish to see a performance upgrade on that end of things. -GET RID OF WEIRD ENGINE ISSUES THAT CAUSE KLANG. It's POSSIBLE. There are HUNDREDS of games doing it now, shit, even in Minecraft you can make incredible machines with mods like Aeronautics. Just PLEASE work on the engine a shitload before AND after release. -We need. Some DAMN. VARIETY. We need a diverse planet, not just in life forms, but in biomes. I'm talkin' Tundra. Taiga. Temperate Deciduous Forest. Tropical Rainforest. Grassland. Savanna. Desert. Chaparral. Marine. Freshwater. Coral Reef. Estuary. Mangrove Forest. Polar Ice. Mountain. Cave. Bog. Oasis. Flooded Forest. Lava Field. Salt Marsh. Fen. Limestone Pavement. Oxbow Lake. Vernal Pool. Lagoon. Salt Flat. Hot Spring. Volcanic Crater. Sand Dune. Glacial Moraine. Thermal Vent. Rift Valley. Peatland. Alvar. Thermokarst. Carolina Bay. Karst. Mire. Fumarole. Subterranean. Sinter Terrace. Ice Shelf. abyssal Plain. (Maybe not ALLLLL of them, but like... AT LEAST a dozen with more added in-post release updates.)

I've hosted some SE servers and eventually just quit. There's too many performance issues even with only a couple of people. I love to play the current game without issues. Not gonna happen so I'm in camp2.5 I'll wait and see and if its bug free.... SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!

I mean ofc I wish SE1 had some more features (who doesn't) but looking at it realistically I bought the game for 20 or 25€ back in the day and about the same in DLCs. I got over 1500h out of it which outside of MMOs is probably moer than any other game I've played. You can't really expect any more value than that. At some point updating SE1 indefinitely instead of making SE2 also doesn't make technical sense (even ignoring financial sense). A lot of the stuff in SE1 is really dated by now and I look forward to a complete overhaul in the form of a SE2.

I see Space Engineers as A Sandbox Demo and Proof of concept. Scenarios have been added, Modding tools provided, players have created blocks, ships, scripts and even whole scenarios.. Now the devs know what players want and can only Improve with SE2... water will be a great addition, will liquid water, maybe addition of oil or even gasses might be possible.. I sit on the fence of, keen gave SE but took away ME (MediEvil Engineers) So they better Provide SE2 with improvements. :)

I don't see how anyone can complain about Space Engineers not being a mature, completed game. They can't make huge sweeping changes now anyway without breaking lots of mods, so probably better that they move on and make a sequel anyway; better than farming us for endless DLCs. Also, I guarantee you that very few of these people complaining about SE being 'abandoned', complained when Keen actually abandoned Medieval Engineers.

All we got so far is photoshopped SE1 ships over shotty rendered landscapes, jello water, crash physics that honestly don't look much better than SE1, and prototype water physics simulation animation that could have nothing to do with anything. All this from a developer whose solution to lag was block limits, speedlimits that are down right laughable in terms of space travel, and player limits that would make Frank Drake blush. Bit early to start the hype train. I'll be in camp skepticism for the time being. I am curious where they plan to get funding for ~5years of development though, Don't think even SE1 DLCed to hell and back could fit that bill. Fingers crossed Microsoft shot them a nice fat check when they released on xbox. 🤞

there already is space engineers 2, its named STARBASE, it has much better physics (except water ofcourse) and it to this day has no such simspeed problems, it ran flawlessly when alpha launched and it runs flawlessly now thou not many people play ;/ SE2 is not a breakthrough unless its getting it performance fixed, cuz i can play starbase with 20 friends with 20 ships all of them having moving parts and stuff, and i cant do that with SE and propably wont be able with SE2

I wonder, if we're going to see Hydro power blocks

Why would any sane person hate on SpaceEngineers and KeenSH? We've gotten _free_ updates for years, long after it left early access. We had no right to any updates or content and we still got it. Plus optional DLCs. They could kill SE tomorrow and announce SE2, and there would be no reason to hate them. Anyone who does still hate them for this is clearly not a rationally thinking person and must be disregarded. There may be things you can criticize them for, but not that. That's not even a discussion topic. Don't try to make it one.

I'm hopeful, but not *super* optimistic about it. Don't get me wrong, all this is cool, but... it kinda seems too good to be true. I'm really worried about performance (for all I know they could be running on an absolute monster of a rig or speeding up laggy footage) with all the stuff they're doing, especially the water physics and fact the world is still destructible (a lot of the standard optimization tricks that let games get away with looking that good are a lot harder to get working if your geometry isn't fixed, and fluid sims aren't generally the easiest on computers). And then probably even moreso than the performance question, there's the question of will it even happen, or will it all just fizzle out leaving us all wondering what could have been? Sure a lot of work has clearly been done, but, there's still a lot left, and they've never even said a thing about there actually being a new SE game, we're all just guessing from their choice of testing environment, and I definitely remember way back in the day the posts about their AI crewmembers and stuff that never came to be

I would rather see so many improvements to space engineers besides water stuff. I really couldn't care less how realistic the water is. It's space engineers, not plumbing simulator. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it, but seriously, think about it. I love space engineers even though all the water is ice. An improvement to it looking like liquid would be just fine. Playing around with water physics is limited in it's gameplay use. I would prefer easier user created enemies and scenarios, and sub grids that actually work right.

Biggest turn off for me on SE is the online.... This game could be one of the biggest MMOs if you were able to have a star system with hundreds of players. But game can really only handle 12... its pretty sad

personally don't think we need a SE2 just up the graphics game on the first one. there is so much we can already create on current game. look at kerbal for example.... who actually plays kerbal 2?

my main problem with SE is that the ai is so absolutely dog shit the spiders are invincible 90% of the time,they teleport,get stuck in the digging animation and sometimes they just refuse to despawn and you end up with a 100+ immortal spiders making dust clouds and that theres no real goal i could ignore

My complaint with Keen as an IT expert is that they are simply not capable of delivering a good game. Much of the code they write is just garbage, and they are so bad at creating compelling ingame content that they decided to not even have it. Therefore I have little faith in them ever being able to make a game that actually runs smooth, or has compelling content. I really wish they could pull that off, because I generally like the game, but they just lack the competence to do it.

I would love to see major improvements with performance, and I would also live to see more AI work. For example, I would love to have AI units that can be on our ships as characters. There are a couple of mods that are starting to emulate this now, woth varying degrees of success, however if it was a base part of the game it would make is much easier for us to implement modified versions of it.

I'm a little concerned with how much time they're spending on water, it gets me worried about dev time not going into other things. Is something going to reintroduce clang? Is this going to be more like SE 1.5? Is Keen going to let not having water in SE 1 be their white whale? I'm still optimistic, don't get me wrong, but I'm also a little worried.

I used to be on the Keen hater bandwagon. BUT they came back and focused on the and fixed all the issues I had at the time, added more stuff to the game and made it much better over all. For me it is a finished game, that ended up going way beyond its scope and what its game engine can handle. There isnt much they can do to fix the current issues on the current game engine. When SC2 comes out if its not priced stupidly like too many games are these days I will buy it.

One factor I think you forgot in your overview is how they one day just abandoned Medieval Engineers. I think that's a big reason why some people are less… keen on trusting the developers.

Ive got about 4000 hours in this game i love it no idea why id start being a hater online for any reason, im not owed anything from these people, theres more to life than being an annoying consumer online, though i have personally 'begged' Marek for a VR camera mode enabled

I love water physics , but don't make any sense this feature in this game... just saying, I hope be wrong...

It's beautiful but if it's boring then it's boring. And SE was boring after playing solo for a time. So a nice engine won't serve anything if the game doesn't give interesting challenges, that's the limitations of sandboxes

So my real concern is what's this going to need to be played stable. I know both online and solo in SE can get choppy fast so adding these water physics on top of that might eliminate a lot of players (all not playing on a NASA super computer)

I've seen lots about terrain, water physics, and collision effects. I'd really love to see more about construction changes.

I hope people realize that massive new features to SE isn't coming. It doesn't make sense to dedicate programmer time to the old game when the new one is going to need all the resources it can get if they want it to succeed. Sure they could add a few new interesting blocks but if you want a cool new feature why would they code it twice?

Since making a wishlist seems to be the trend for comments on these videos, all of these VRage3 video's look really cool, but what i really want is: - More grid sizes & the ability to combine them without needing hinges/rotors/whatever - Structural integrity like we had in 'ME' (at the very least for bases on planets, but everywhere would be really cool) - A better attempt at a campaign/goals/PVE (read: give me something to do) & better performance in multiplayer - A lot more 'decorative' stuff that doesn't require me buying DLC's (honestly just make at least half of current DLC's part of the base game in SE2)

one of my most favorite game of all time but I really do not understand all this fuss over water. Its called space engineers not water engineers. I have lots of friends who love the water mod etc but all these years I have never started a game with water mod added.... For me its worrying to see all this effort going into water physics. I want to actually see a full blown Scenario editor that actually can be used my mortal humans. a cut scene editor all the cool stuff that we will actually use... Unless they plan to make water asteroids in space I really do not care about water...

While this is really cool, I much rather they work on single player content for the current game, mainly NPC engineers to play with and against.

As long as SE2 keeps the soul and charm that defines SE1 I don’t mind buying a sequel

Thank you for the years of your time thank you for being looking out for the best of space engineers and putting your heart into it i hope space engineers does continue in development and not shutdown overnight Here's to the best wishes to both games and yourself stay safe

I’d rather have a space engineers engine replace and upgrade than a entire new game I mean it is really common for games to upgrade engines and because they are using better engines they can do new cool stuff that wasn’t possible before. I don’t want a second game that’s basically a copy of the first please just replace the engine and keep it as just space engineers not a separate game but a replacement for the games engine

really dont care about water, its getting further and further away from space. might aswell just call it Engineers

I'm not buying SE2 unless they add some orbital realism like KSP

I am in the 4th. Spacer engineers has space in the name and well the planets are cools I still think it should be mainly space not base building

it will always be my most favourite game no matter what they do as the future Technoloy improves so do the games so great job keen

10 years like you Aaron, still enjoy it from simple self survival, to large fun with friends. I had mentioned years ago I noted that Merrick spotted it. What if they simply choose to upgrade the engine of the current SE and continue from that… there is two other games in my inventory that also do just that. They simply don’t go to version 2 but enhance the current version with a new and better engine and remain solid as the original. Never been a fan of 2, 3, 4, etc etc… fix the current, then work in content galore. That is how you keep us the community strong.

i hope we get parts for subs. cant wait for bases built under lakes with water at the entrance. while i'm not avoiding the first game i am waiting for the second. i want combat thats longer ranged with larger or even modular weapons, armor thats not paper mache. along with better performance and top speed. those items are i mainly care about at the moment. still i've seen where aplenty of hyped games have gone, gonna wait for reviews

I can't help but feel like they are making a tech demo for their cool engine more than they are making a game. Again.

I honestly dont Care about water just fix the engine so that we can build as much as we want pls

well i would happily throw my money at keen for Space Engineers 2.

I long for the day when water in video games is 100% simulated

VRAGE3 is a game engine, nothing more. Keen is using assets from SE to test that engine. SE 2 hasn't been confirmed by KSH at all. You keep making videos about "SE 2 development updates" but that's completely dishonest. It's okay to be hopeful, but you really should top spreading misinformation based on unconfirmed speculation.

i hope they add all the dlc content and a way to pot our stuff from the first game. other than that i am stoked.

My decade old rig won't be able to run it anyway. so what do I care.

here goes the hype train by guy that is so badly sponsored you could say he is part of keen team

I'm way late to the game (only been playing 2 weeks or so) love the game though

Fuck space engineers game was never finished in the first place

That camera spin was giving me so much motion sickness lol 🤮😬

Just imagine there is a crashed ship in an ocean a small bit sticking out but the rest under the water

Who else hopes that the water portion of the new game has optional Sea beasts to fight ?

I still havent figured much more than base building in SE1. Hopefully the build mechanic is easier on n00bs like myself in SE2.

Crazy how Space Engineers is still releasing updates, even though they seem to have some nice progress on their sequel

Wow, I saw your last dev update yesterday. Perfect timing for another one! Great video once again

Dude we all have 3000+ hours on this, the game is complete, it has been for several years.

SE2 is looking pretty likely as all the 3D examples are of the characters from space engineers and tools from space engineers ad sometimes blocks from space engineers

I can't wait to put another 1800 hours into SE 2

While it's obvious that Space Engineers never became what it should have, it's also obvious that Keen have been working on an engine that isn't capable of supporting their ambitions for upwards of 10 years. They've needed this engine upgrade for a long time. While it's understandable that players would be hesitant to buy another product when the previous one isn't finished, it's also obvious that Keen need the money to continue existing as a company. It's the same with their DLC, which I think they've been fairly reasonable about releasing. I think they've done the best they can in terms of respecting the playerbase without committing monetary suicide. At the end of the day, I'm hesitant not because of the money, but because Keen have demonstrated they have no idea what to do in terms of gameplay.

That wind velocity slider for the water is interesting, they could've worded it water turbulence or wave motion, but they picked wind velocity...🤔