Spanish Civil War Factions: The Nationalists 

He did at the end.

So it should be "yes but later"

@@MrPivot50 no he really didn't

@@rhodesianwojak2095 Yes he did. He invited a bourbon prince, had him crowned king, and officially appointed the prince to be his heir. It was the king's decision to abdicate, and that wasn't until after Franco died.

@@C00kiesAplenty yeah well bro I'm not an Alfonsist........

Muerte al meme

@@alvarolopez656 xd

Fight against comunist!💪💪💪👍

@@alvarolopez656 jajaja es verdad y lo sabes los españoles siempre estamos pegandonos por todo

Almost ever right wing in Europe collaborate in some capacity. But Hilbert is only refering to Spanish factions in the video.

They were fighting on the Republican side if I remember well

Eoin O'Duffy and the Blueshirt's 'contribution' to the nationalist cause is a comedy of errors in and of itself

@@Hellxar1 Would make a good movie.

@@oreste8570 O'Duffy's Irish Brigade fought on Franco's side. But there was also Irish that fought on the Republican side such as the Connolly Column.

The other way around would be more accurate

Italy: Watch this shit

@@editorrbr2107 im going to help franco to help Spain

Santiago Sgalippa Mexico had a higher frequency of instability lol

Russian Empire : first time ?

@Hilbert This time, despide ending in -e, phalanx is a feminine name. Even the Spanish have its own inconsistences.

Also it's Navarra not Navarre

Another thing with pronunciation: @Hilbert Fa.chis.tas @RAE Fas.cis.tas In general all the "s" at the end of a syllable with an other consonant after are pronounced in the precedent syllable.

@@zurita1642 and words like planeta and sistema, despite ending in "a" are masculine

@@zurita1642 While this is true at the time the fascists were also sometimes called "fachistas" and "fachas". Not necessarly wrong, but not completly correct if one's going for the carpet term.

I recommend the Carlists. They have the coolest skins and the best weapons. They also have an extra ammo capability.

For Carlos De Bourbon

@@5.7moy same

@@thomaspritchett3972 yes

carlist gang

You're not wrong lol

GERMANY: *knock knock*

now it's backwards xd

If you switch spain and france its still the same

Is this the fifth or the tenth French Republic? Seems you get together to burn Paris every couple decades lol

Unfortunately, for you. History will not see it that way.

Fight against comunist!💪💪💪👍

@Spartan 506 fuck Franco

@Spartan 506 fuck Franco

@Spartan 506 hail Franco from Cambodia!

Yeah, if you are talking about the 20th and 21th century that is indeed true. But during the time of feudalism and kings it did usually revolve around 2 major factions

I blame the American civil war for making the idea of two opposing sides with clear borders and professional organized armies being far more represented in media than the reality in most civil wars of pure and utter chaos.

And if you look at modern civil wars like the Syrian or Libyan civil war it’s several coalitions split into several groups that are fighting each other and betraying each other. tldr a true clusterfuck

Same for revolutions (which really are just civil wars but the winners gave it a fancy name). The French and Russian revolution were definitely not very well defined. In France most of the clusterfuck happened after the King got deposed (and got executed after trying to flee) as several governments came and tried to eradicate their opposition, tried to write laws but were not able to find a common ground, different factions in the assembly vied for power, a few massacres and even outright genocide there and there......... until the little corsican came around of course As for the Russian revolution .......... seriously, I don't know how to even explain this shit, it is one of the craziest things in history. How many guys tried to take power in some part of the empire or another ? Plus all the invasions the red did of countries that became independent with the peace treaty with Germany while still fighting against other Russians ..... I can't even sum up this thing other than this is a mess. But many people have this idea of the "American Revolution" or to some extent the "French Revolution" that are very clearly cut and very nice and easy to explain while in reality, revolutions are hot messes (I could also have talked about the Chinese revolution as well for example but I think that I've had enough of clusterfucks for today

Fuck! Even Civilwars are made in China!

Upgrayedd holy shit in don’t think that video is gonna turn out the way you want it

I know you did the lisp for accuracy since its mainland Spanish, but damn the spanish accent is god awful (everyone outside spain pronounces S's normally, it supposedly has to do with a king who had a bad lisp)

How about you ban all of the fascists in the comment section

@@ColaNerd10 how about stop bein so thin skinned

@@cv4809 Nietzsche would want all fascists deplatformed, js

I wouldn't call them that similar. To apply some of that dreaded Dialectical Materialism to both wars, the first one was a conflict for the bourgeoisie to establish capitalism in Spain against the dying feudal order that the Carlists hoped to preserve. it was an anti-feudal war, one which the proletariat had no involvement in because the Spanish proletariat didn't really exist as a class at the time. While the Spanish Civil War was already at a time when the Spanish bourgeoisie long since liberalized and capitalized Spain, feudal institutions like the monarchy were little more than a relic used for legitimacy. And that was basically the same one-sided relationship the bourgeois Nationalists had with the monarchy. But ultimately the Spanish civil war had little to do with ancient feudal struggles, it was an anti-capitalist conflict driven by the proletariat. One where the bourgeoisie were now the reactionaries in the post-feudal class dynamic.

@@victorconway444 From the standpoint of the Class Struggle, you're right, of course, comrade. I was rather considering the two wars from the standpoint of European power politics. I trust Hilbert to take both viewpoints into account in his future video. Hear that, Comrade Hilbert?

Very true. The carlists were always challenging the central powers. While at the same time our XIX leaders were very bad. Ferdinand VII, Queen Isabella... too bad. And the carlists, so conservative, even worse. All the devils of the XX century have their origin in the 3 carlists wars

@@TheCanelaFina They're not quite as conservative anymore though. After Franco fucked them over, they literally drifted to the opposite end of the spectrum.

Many Morrocans were also told it is a fight against godless communism, just not in the crusade sense.

Yep the commies at the time were attacking anyone who believed in something or at best refusing to really punish attacks on those who were not godless

It's not like the Moroccans had much of a choice

Well you can bet that if the anarchists and the rest of commie Spain had gotten their things together the level of purges would had made Stalin proud. And that they would have been leveled heavily against those that abided by religion or by non commie traditions.

@@GAndreC no such thing as commie tradition, and the ussr protected culture although it was against religions

Be careful what you say bud, there are some hard-core Carlists roaming around here

None of them appeared

You're actually wrong. He was leaning to moderate liberalism after the 1820-23 Trienio Liberal, and that is why his daughter became his heir and started a war against carlists after Fer's death.

@@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 but he wasnt liberal, this guy just said, he did that to asure his daughters rights

@@Chabier-mx2mzHe was an absolutist which is a precedent of liberalism, so he was closer to (moderate) liberalism than to traditionalism. Now you get it or you need a deeper explanation?

​@Alek Mitev Hitler hoped for much more aid than he got, Franco only really sent aid because of the expectation of repayment for the Condor Legion's work and pressure from some military groups, and he disbanded the Blue Division in 1943 after pressure from the allies. I'm sure he hoped they'd do well but I don't think he sent them out of some altruistic streak or a desire to punish the soviets. It was more of a political decision. Though I suppose I did make him sound like he hoped they'd die in my original comment.

Gotta hand it to Franco for playing his own game

@@adrianshephard378 with a pretty slow economy. But that’s better then actually having to endure the war like everyone else

Josh Vlogs 101 Shit yes, mostly Carlists, Franco exiled the Carlist King and many political rivals. Franco was sort of the normie’s ruler, those who were conservative but largely unconcerned with politics didn’t care about the postponing of the King’s return, but the more radical groups despised him for his perceived betrayal. Many modern Falangists, Carlists, and Absolutists consider him a usurper.

@@baronofbahlingen9662 After all, he did leave Primo De Rivera to die in prison.

He actually did by appointing the King Juan Carlos as his successor.

Javier Mellado But he made himself regent for life, and didn’t choose a more direct descendant, Infante Jaime

The monarchist were a redder small group in the Civil War, at the most senior officers of the coupé d'êtat called for a Nationalist Republic. The whole idea of keep the damn thing was a caprice of Franco, and luckily he chose the son of the Isabelline pretender to the throne instead of Cristóbal Martínez-Bourdiú.

This name and ideology was later copied by certain Lebanese right wingers and it commited many atrocities during the Lebanese civil war.

@jocaguz18 Thanks for the correction.

@@user-sx1mm1sl6u no it wasnt

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All my family was on the republican side, nowadays we understand the real events. Specially after the constant lies being pushed by separatists and the left after Franco's death.

Sounds like you sure do have a bunch of support for the nationalists and fascists there

@@Awwwsktskt and?

@@Awwwsktskt don’t see a problem

O Valenthia

Pretty sure he is just trying to pronounce the way the Spanish would haha still funny comment tho haha

same

Same here

I am a Portuguese and I would have joined as a foreign legionaire for the nationalists 🔵⚪️🤝❌️

You've discovered his secret!

it's a fem substantive, that's what he meant

@Harry Lagom That's the French Foreign Legion not the same as La Legion

@Harry Lagom They are different languages, it happens sometimes

@Harry Lagom and why did you ignore English and German in your list there?

@Harry Lagom those two are in the same family of Romantic languages, English specifically doesn't even have gendered words

As a Englishman brit i would say gurkhas. I know it bias

1 of 2 things: Both of them would die except for 1 on each side, and it would look like the Battlefield 1 stories intro with the German troop and the Harlem Hellfighter putting down their weapons. OR Everyone dies and no one lives as they both fight to the death.

@@justinwhite4995 both would fight till their last blood has dropped even then still be fighting in the afterlife

Nah, they would just sit back, have some tea together and watch empires collapse

@@parvuspeach nope Morocco soldier would not fight gurkhas will still fight to ensure that Britain is protected

*R E Q U E T É S*

I also saw it

Lel

@@tomasgustavolopez4852 Tan liberal que los liberales de la época se alzaron contra el.

Sí, en los últimos años dio un giro hacia el moderantismo, pero claro, para saber eso tenéis que tener más lecturas.

The term "nacionalistas" was also used regularly to refer to them, even during the war.

They called themselfs that way because they wanted to seem as the true spanish.

@@ArkadiBolschek yeah, but not by the nationals, it was used by the catalonian and vasque nationalists militias...

@@Andres-vg1wy It was used by everyone who didn't support them. As you said yourself, they liked to call themselves "nationals" or "national forces" to imply that they were the "real", legitimate Spaniards instead of a rebel faction. Everybody else called them "nationalists" at best, or more commonly "fascists" or "facciosos".

Because "Nationalists" makes more sense in English than "Nationals".

Es verdad

cry about it

@@galactique7527 cry about roe v wade

@@yvonetubla7682 not a women so dont care

@@hb2495 you lost the ability to kill babies lmao cope

​@@galactique7527 - 🤡

Snitch

Quite the opposite, in fact: after the war, the Falanigsts were the single most powerful faction within Franco's regime and Franco himself was often seen wearing the Falange uniform. It wasn't until the end of WWII that the regime started toning down the fascism and the Falangists lost many positions of power in the government; and even then they weren't "supressed" in any real sense. They remained the only legally recognized political group for as long as Franco's regime lasted.

ArkadiBolschek the reason for that was cuz Franco had completely hijacked the party. The FE-JONS under José Antonio, Ledesma Ramos, and Onésimo Redondo was anti-capitalist and anti Monarchist. But after all those 3 were killed Franco assumed the leadership and began merging it with other, and in the case of the Carlists, incompatible groups in order to build the base of his power. That is why many Falangists had saw Franco as a Usurper and opportunistic asshole.

@@cristeromexico3366 So, yeah: hijacked and absorbed by Franco after losing their leadership, yes; but never "repressed" or "suppressed" in any way.

​​@@ArkadiBolschek Yes, the hardline falangist were suppressed and expulsed out of the party and some were almost executed by Franco, but enough people intervened in their behalf for Franco to just punish them with prision.

@@cristeromexico3366 my you need a history lesson

For the people that didn’t get it, it says: Belgium is Holland (joke)

Falange wanted a state without monarchy but also without democracy (kinda like the nazi Germany). They had to fight in the same side as the carlists but they didn't get on wel.

Most Falangists opposed the merging, h They a National Syndicalist State not a useless King.

@@xaquko9718 No one in the war democracy at that point...

“Viva viva la revolución, viva viva el Falange de las JONS. Fuera fuera fuera el Requeté. Viva viva el Falange sin la T.”

Aka real Falangism

Y aún así están sobrevalorados, ni d coña el mejor cuerpo del ejército, ni ahora ni en 1936

You just can't say to the people who fought for centuries for religion to not be religious.

Didn't Orwell also participate? And wasn't he British? I'd like to know from what countries people came, probably all over.

@@Ares_gaming_117 yeah Orwell fought along the poum. Alot of the republican fighters were from around the world mostly from Europe tough. From countries like Russia France Austria German and Great Britain

Where there a lot?

There were groups of Irish fighting on each side. The Blue Shirts fought for the Nationalist cause whereas the Connolly column fought for the Republic. In general the Blue Shirts were derived from the Old Comrades Association i.e. those who fought on the pro-treaty side and their sons. The motivation again generally was from staunch Catholicism. The men who fought for the Republic in general were derived from those who were anti-treaty and supported greater social justice. The Blue Shirts were of greater public relations than military value. Those that fought in the International Brigades were of equal military and morale value. If you were to add the two groups together Ireland on a per capita basis would have been the greatest contributor of foreign forces.

Some of the Irish brigadist were friends of one of my grandparents, great people he called them.

God Bless Him

'Navarre' is the English name for Navarra (like 'Castile' for Castilla), so it's not incorrect.

Tatiana 2010 RIP 😂😂

It’s just pride of better times

During the Franco Dictatorship he united all factions in one party called FETJONS (Falange Española Tradicionalista de las Juntas de Ofensiva Nacional Sindicalista) and sometimes thet used the Falange symbols to indicate their actions, like propaganda. When you see that symbol on the door of a hose is to indicate that was build as social house (goverment builds house and sold or rented with low prices) by the ministery

We will never join the Dutch!!

@@oss8298 edgy

The dutch belong to Spain

Nice joke, swamp german.

@Pep The French belong to the Italiand

Kota' Shitposting Lair Thank you very much! Yes I do, you may see me hiding out on Minisiege when I’ve got too much work to do 😉

@@historywithhilbert146 oh shit, have I bayonetaed you before?

Just imagine if a civil war started in the USA right after the elections.

@@marneus Modern left loses,too much soy and not enough guns.

Maybe finish watching the video, as you would have known the answer if you did.

@jocaguz18 Gracias :v

Habla castellano, no español.

LOS espaÑoles

@@joanmasdeu4600 If you look up the lyrics for that song, you'll see that there are different versions, and only some of them say "fachistas". I know that _some_ people say the word like that; all I'm saying is that it's incorrect, like "dijistes" or "habían". And if you look at the video, at the point he says it, you can see the word correctly spelled, with 'sc', so it's pretty obvious that he was going for the correct pronunciation, but got it wrong.

@@joanmasdeu4600 Also, I know you can't always generalize from personal experience, but the only people I've actually heard say "fachista" are Catalans, so I _suspect_ it might be a case of people getting Catalan and Castilian pronunciation mixed up (feixista + fascista = fachista)

@Alek Mitev If you look into his life and career, I think you'll quickly disabuse yourself of that notion. It's really rare for 90% of historians to agree that a ruler was "basically the worst"; and yet, that's precisely the case with Fernando VII.

@Alek Mitev Like I said: if you really are interested, read up on the guy. You'll quickly find out why his popularity index is so low.

I would just to point out that the actual Fascists, La Falange De Las JONs in the civil war were very anti monarchy and wanted the creation of a National Syndicalist state, in fact José António said that if Franco tried to make them merge with the reactionaries, the Falange should revolt against him. Sadly with death of most Falangist leaders, and the act of unification 1937 the Falangist movement was forced to merge with the reacrionaries.

I'm gonna put some knowledge in that empty skull of yours. The famous nap is mainly done by Andalusians, they wake up so early to start work and at mid-day they take a nap, why? Because at that time in Andalusia the sun is so hot that makes impossible to work (Andalusia has a desèrtic climate), so they wake up early and they take a nap during the hottest moments of the day, then they go back to work. It's sad to find childish memeboys in this channel, I thought we all were here to learn interesting things about the past of the world.

Quite the mouthful, isn't it? Everybody just said "fet y de las jons" or simply "falange" because the full name was just stupidly long.

Lol