Hello Everyone , This is a special project build and painting of the 1946 what if Panther-Sherman. ANDY'S HOBBY HEADQUARTERS 15224 N 59TH AVE AVE SUITE 12 GLENDALE AZ 85306
That's brilliant, I especially like how the modeller has kept it real in that the bow armour plates are dismountable for access to the final drive and the escape hatch on the left hull side has a deflector in front of it.
If the British thought that the Sherman turret with a 17lber was cramped, then it would have been really bad with the 75mm L/70, even with the extension on the back. Maybe it could have worked with a T23 turret.
@@tankmaker9807 Yuo were right to, as the Chieftain showed in his inside the hatch video, there was a lot of space inside. The reason the British gun was unweildy is because it had an abnormally large breech.
Nevermind the space lmao. This whole concept is just a concept. We all know how complicated this already and very heavy. They even bolted more armour so nevermind the field transmission repair and added the notorious panther suspension to make it impossible for field recovery
This type of video is a really good idea, and it's different from what you usually do. Your videos really help me with my own models, especially the weathering, and I even brought an airbrush after watching how you use it. If you could do a video sometime on using an airbrush for people new to it, that would be really good
I was really hoping someone would do a 'what if vehicle' like these, and lo and behold a double whammy!;) very nice build there to you and your friend. Have always thought about doing an unusual Sherman with various unusual attributes. Well done gentlemen!
a common mistake modelers make is the whole "Let's make german tracks appear rusted" in reality all tank tracks that Germany produced from 1933 to 1945 were of a high quality alloy called "Niresist" which in addition to being VERY HIGH QUALITY AND EXPENSIVE. WE'RE EXTREMELY RESISTANT TO RUST
Not only that, but towards the end of the war those late-model German tanks generally did not survive for long. The last batch of King Tigers didn't even leave the city they were built in, some were destroyed within days or weeks. Throughout the war, the average German tank was probably only a year or so old. They'd probably still have new car smell. This is a sticking point with me because on the forums and reddit you see SO MANY models that look like museum pieces - IE what they look like after sitting for 70 years! Would they be muddy? Yes. Would they look like they were parked at the bottom of the sea? No!
Another great video Andy. I tbi k I've found a paint scheme for a What If build I've currently got on the go. Keep them coming, my fix of SW sunshine in a wet South Wales👍
I'm 5 years late to this party but just the idea for these is pretty impressive let alone the actual execution of the idea. Hats off to the builder! Obviously a very nice paint job too. Like the splinter pattern very much.
I love this kind of thing. Recently, I built one, too, in 1/72 scale. My "what if" was an Israeli tank in 1948. Historically, Israel found some Sherman's in Italian junkyards, bought them and put them into combat. So what if they also found some M3 medium tanks, too. To the basic M3 I added a long 75 (the kind used in the Panther, but manufactured in France post-war) for the hull-mounted main gun, and replaced the turret 37mm with a British 6-pounder (57mm in US service) anti-tank gun. It was a fun project.
hello Andy i just discover your channel recently and i find my motivation again kit's after a long disease . this kind of project is really cool thanks for sharing . i continue now showing yours videos .cheers from Portugal :)
Damn, what a badass tank(s)! I have a buddy who planned on scratch building an M26 "Ultra Pershing," essentially a super Pershing with even more armor and the Jagdtiger 128mm cannon. Wish I could build something like that
Just goes to show what could have been next though! Nice job the Sherman's actually suit it looks like they were made for it! I really like the colours n patterns wasn't to sure when you said brown to start with but now it's on it's nice
The second model based on the E8 Sherman and retaining its suspension and engine deck is far better, in my opinion. On the first kit only the greater number of bolts on the frontal armour works better. The paint scheme of the first model is outstanding.
Love your videos. I would love it if you did the Tamiya M113 APC or ACAV in the Vietnam configuration. It would also be cool if you did a white wash on a Sherman. I'd like to see you build the Tamiya M4A3 Sherman 105mm.
I love these 1946 esque scenarios great models interesting Germany and the US V the communists would not have been close. What a couple of great models . And awesome paint job chapeau
There were many ideas to upgrade the sherman, one concept would have seen a sharper glacis as with these but during testing it was rejected due to it protruding beyond the tracks in the front.
this was a nice switch up, maybe you could do more miss matched and molded kits like this once in a while? it could definitely keep things fresh. good work :)
Shaw Rosowitsch wait how could you even mod something like this in War Thunder? Fallout i understand but War Thunder is as strict as it gets toward to realistic data.
westwing23 u don't know how much I hate that American tank, coz I grind the German tank line XD, it looks like any other Sherman until u see, no damage when u fire
Andy, please suggest to your friend a project based on a Panther [or perhaps a King Tiger?] modified for resumed production by the Allies in 1946 -new engine, revised fittings and hatches, keep the gun but revise the turret, etc. Your video has a unique and creative subject with great painting ideas, and is the perfect incentive to work on a Sherman on a snow day! Thanks!
There is an old thread on Armorama about the IDF using Panthers. I have a project to "upgrade" a Panther using the M26 as a parts source to improve the suspension, tracks and final drive as a post war "Western" Panther.
Randy, thanks for the reply! You could do a whole series of "what-ifs" involving the IDF and German WWII armor. If Israel had Panthers in 1948... wow. I hope Andy will feature your "western" Panther in the future. Just wondering - In 1944, could a Panther or Pzkw. IV long-barreled turret actually have been mated to a Sherman or M10 hull? I could imagine some field depot trying such a dramatic [and unauthorized] modification. It would make for a very interesting diorama!
Nice paint jobs, though they never were made I think those long barreled 75 mm guns from the panther would of problem been a lot better then home of the guns we had, last to a degree
Not sure if it's the camera or not but the finished camo on the second Sherman looks a bit hazy. Either way, I love the two Shermans, they both look amazing.
There was one possible 'what if' addition that could have been added at the modellers discretion;Perhaps a very large aerial recognition flag or a brightly coloured turret roof because although we would all have been deeply in the doo doo on the ground it would be fair to say the Russkis might have been in deep doo doo in the air. These two models look brilliant as they are and such an addition probably couldn't improve them just possibly immerse them further into a 46 environment.
The second Sherman looks like the real article, and the likely amalgamation of tech. That's because the Sherman's tracks, suspension, engine, transmission, hull etc were readily available and very reliable. However that 75mm German gun would be an excellent upgrade and a fine addition to a Sherman Easy Eight. It also kind of follows reality as eventually all of the modern tanks in the West would have German Rheinmetall guns like the US M1 Abrams or the British Challenger 2. Even the Israeli Merkava tanks have German Rheinmetall smoothbore 105mm guns on them.
Hello Andy; I really enjoyed this video which led to watching a few more of your other stuff. I thought about how would I do the technique you did with the geometric design. I want to do something like that for a 1:48 Tamiya Panther. So I see you're located just up the road from me...I'm in Tucson. I don't make it up to Phoenix much unless when I'm traveling to L.A., and have to add you to my stops when in town. Looks like my youngest boy and I will be making up to attend the Modelcon II. Hope to visit your shop soon. Oh, last thing, I'm a BIG 1:48 scale WWII armor builder...have you done any videos on this scale/period? Thanks again.
Hi Andy, I know you were not 'in charge of construction' but you have done a great job on these two tanks, now my question is, who would have operated these vehicles? Cheers and happy modelling, Les
The tanks are both virtually blind tho :P just wanted to mention that- there are no viewports are on the commander's hatch slits on both tanks(i forgot what to call them all of a sudden), the only exception may be the turret cannon scopes, and what seems to be a driver's periscope in front of the turret, but that's still just one viewport... XD still pretty cool design tho!
It was actually done there is a photograph of a m4 in 1945 with armor added from the hull of a panther, driving on the autobahn but with the 18 pounder British 75 firefly main gun
This is a great theoretical exercise, but I agree with Scottish below-- talk about cramped turret. The Chieftain would not approve. What I would like to see is that experimental, one off M4A3 that had a Pershing turret on it that was actually built. Comparatively, US tankers ranked the HE round from the 75mm as the best, the 90mm round as second best and the 76mm round third. Since over 80% of targets were "soft" what would've the war looked like if rather than producing the Pershing, they went with the M4A3 with HVSS and the Pershing turret in the fall of '44?
I wouldn't be surprised when some people from Wargaming (WOT developers of course) will consider putting it as a brand new german premium tank with way too good stats and to keep their hands clean they will add a small note in a tank description like "A german 1945 project that was supposed to come to life in 1946 where germans would take wrecked Shermans and mix the, with Panther parts. Existed only as a project". Wot players will definitly understand :v