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Special Tools? NOPE! Ford Transit Ball Joints Using Sacrificial Bolts  

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@duncancremin1708
@duncancremin1708 Год назад
Heart was in my mouth, waiting for one of the sacrificial studs to shear off, leaving us in what’s becoming a familiar situation for Ray.
@ateam6486
@ateam6486 Год назад
Makes me wonder how many cars he has worked on that are running around with stripped nuts and bolts coming lose.
@forgetfulme1719
@forgetfulme1719 Год назад
dozen of them sitting outside for various damages, previously fired probably customers complained about these kind of creative hacking.@@ateam6486
@J-D
@J-D Год назад
He could have cracked the hub, he damaged the wishbone bolts, he definitely damaged the bolt holes that ensure the balljoint is held in. He's certainly a cowboy.
@timjohnun4297
@timjohnun4297 Год назад
🤣@@J-D Let me guess, you'd have bought the $600 tool from Ford, written off the profit from the whole job, put the tool in your toolbox and probably never used it again?
@J-D
@J-D Год назад
@@timjohnun4297 that's the problem with reading into what someone is saying. Just bad technique in his part, didn't chill the part, didn't hear the hub, no lube, not even wd30, hitting bolts into the holes, gunning bilts before ensuring they're threaded ( one of the suspension bolts clearly binds before he tightens it fully, ) skipped the heat shield and shim, gunned every bolt and didn't check a single one with a ratchet let alone a torque wrench. No lube on anything. Need I say more? His idea may have worked however it could have been done better.... and that vehicle is definitely not road safe.
@fatblokes_ferguson
@fatblokes_ferguson Год назад
What I find impressive is how Ray has a lot of problems and things that aren’t so straightforward but doesn’t seem to get to stressed and always keeps videoing. I know that I would have thrown the camera at times but I’ve never seen Ray get frustrated with getting the shot. Great job Ray.👏
@crosstolerance
@crosstolerance Год назад
I find that is one reason why I watch these videos.
@ken2tou
@ken2tou Год назад
Same here. Along with his technical skills, he demonstrates much restraint when facing challenging conditions. Well done Ray!
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Год назад
You will note that you have never seen a BMW in his shop.....
@Drekulviin
@Drekulviin Год назад
He said it once, he edit his videos and cut those parts out.
@fatblokes_ferguson
@fatblokes_ferguson Год назад
@@Drekulviin I would make a great deal of sense. Not that I have seen it but it seems like he has a guardian angel. I have been in stressful situations regarding the machinery I was in charge of. I would be covered in grease and crap and a coffee was enough to make me go off the rails let alone having to worry about filming it lol
@jeffjones4006
@jeffjones4006 Год назад
Great work Ray, I was a field service mechanic for 46 years and thinking out of the box is normal when the job requires it. Again great job.
@davidkeller4841
@davidkeller4841 Год назад
Fine job Ray, I have one of these fine vehicles waiting on my rack for tomorrow morning. I am in Ohio and there are holes in the subframe and none of the bolts will budge...I'm planning on cutting anything in my way getting to the trans pan to replace the lead frame. I guess its going to be a well planned out controlled slaughtering
@cranefly23
@cranefly23 Год назад
We have a saying, here in Britain; these ‘special’ tools are sold in stores with ‘big windows’ for a reason - so they can see us coming! Well done for finding a way around it. Excellent video.
@level1804
@level1804 Год назад
Many years ago I did a break job on a sierra, which stated I need “specialist ford tool 09”. £30. 😮 It was a ‘C’ spanner, but what I actually used was a the shank of a screwdriver to wind in the piston.
@samd7601
@samd7601 Год назад
Customer states you will need a 600 dollar tool for this job
@rickconstant6106
@rickconstant6106 Год назад
As I said in my comment to part 1, if you use longer lengths of studding, a 3/4" drive socket (or cup as you used there) big enough to fit over the balljoint and a heavy gauge plate under it, you can draw the balljoint all the way in without risking bending the flange, or damaging the threads. I've replaced lots of them using this method, when I was maintaining a fleet of Transits in the UK.
@TheOriginalDaveJ
@TheOriginalDaveJ Год назад
A perfect example of how to do it the easy way. Unfortunately Ray either doesn't read all the comments or he doesn't like suggestions. I've made suggestions on a few videos but it made no odds. Unfortunately he's his own worst enemy sometimes.
@justindaniels17
@justindaniels17 Год назад
@@TheOriginalDaveJ agreed he is his worst enemy sometimes
@JohnH0130
@JohnH0130 Год назад
Or just stack half a dozen washers on each stud between the nut and the flange, so he can use the nuts to drive the joint all the way home without running out of thread on the stud.
@forgetfulme1719
@forgetfulme1719 Год назад
one stooge neither learns, understands physics, nor is he humble enough to learn from mechanics that do the thing daily, even diy knows to prelube , preheat, prefreeze,,,
@Sneakdisscommentbelow
@Sneakdisscommentbelow Год назад
Ppl don't know how to set up a ball joint press anymore 😢
@opendstudio7141
@opendstudio7141 Год назад
Persistence pays payoffs. The shop is looking spiffier and the team is getting things organized.
@thomasnaber7480
@thomasnaber7480 Год назад
When I worked for a company called break parts (a division of echlin vehicle parts) when we pressed anything we used WD40 it provides a little lube but dries out over a couple hours.. we did this on clean drilled holes when we pressed in studs.. with WD40 it took 2000 pounds pressure.. without it, it took almost 2x the pressure
@brettemerich3237
@brettemerich3237 Год назад
Ray you know how it is you get one of these vehicles and you get more of them for some reason Have a Great day Ray
@legogummybear5
@legogummybear5 Год назад
great work Ray. You have more patience and determination than I do :-)
@dollabilyall
@dollabilyall Год назад
Good morning sir! hope you're day is awesome and productive my RU-vid friend
@agostinodibella9939
@agostinodibella9939 Год назад
Ray is the true Master Mechanic! Great work around getting those new ball joints in! Working on different types of cars, Ray knows how to adapt and tackle the tricky jobs.👍
@davidbackman4442
@davidbackman4442 Год назад
I'd LOVE to see a collab between you and Watch Wes Work on two different vehicles. One from his home turf and one from yours. I mean, from the other side of the screen, you both seem to be doing good work( I'd be happy to bring my car to either of you), but the commentary about the other guy's regular working conditions is destined to be LEGENDARY.
@keithrimmer3
@keithrimmer3 Год назад
Put the ball joints in the freezer overnight and heat up the knuckle with a map torch and they will fall in the hole
@TheCorpsehatch
@TheCorpsehatch Год назад
Ford: "You need a special tool to install these ball joints." Ray: "Hold my beer."
@victorthecarguy3126
@victorthecarguy3126 Год назад
I would have put some oil on the ball joint OD when pressing it in. Nice work again.
@brummiesteve590
@brummiesteve590 Год назад
As a few people have said freeze ball joints the night before and use a bottle jack in centre. Lower the car and the weight does it for you.
@stevo4649
@stevo4649 Год назад
thankyou Ray,,another educational but more importantly entertaining upload, have a good weekend,,👌👍
@duncancremin1708
@duncancremin1708 Год назад
Never tried fitting the ball joint before the bushings. Don’t know why, but I always do the two bushings first, then the ball joint. Glad you remembered about not tightening the front one until the suspension is at normal height. And explained it in American, too, so there’ll be less Ree about it, when people don’t understand it. Nice one, Ray.
@carsten4594
@carsten4594 Год назад
Glad it worked out Ray. It's asking a lot from the studs when using pinch nuts to press in ball joints. You are literally "Pressing Your Luck!" lol.
@aproperpatriot378
@aproperpatriot378 Год назад
To help anyone reading, and for the next one you do, for the re-install all you need is the correct diameter closed cup out of your run of the mill ball joint press kit and the fit is loose enough I've been able to use the cup and my air hammer (snap-on current gen) with the standard hammer head bit and drive them in. Just make sure you either use studs or you can even red neck it and use screw drivers or longer bolts from around the shop to line up your holes. The way you do it here bends the flanges. My way uses the surface area around the joint evenly and is pretty fast! Keep turning out them hours brothers
@alfredgreenidge5679
@alfredgreenidge5679 Год назад
Barbados.......Alfred, I do mechanics and I love working on suspensions ,you did a great job .
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 Год назад
Another episode of a brilliant out-of-the 📦solution. Well done, Ray 👍
@lechatbotte.
@lechatbotte. Год назад
Yep he takes the parts out of the box and bam problem solved lol
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 Год назад
@@lechatbotte. Well played, sir! Well played! 👍
@jamesmoore7106
@jamesmoore7106 Год назад
I agree with the freezer method oh by the way Ray I love the Oliver Anthony music in the background 👍🤠❤️
@daneru
@daneru Год назад
I always use the freezer method for press-in parts. It makes pressing a lot easier.
@1crustyoldmsgtretired870
@1crustyoldmsgtretired870 Год назад
Yep! We used to do a lot of "Heat this, Chill that and assemble before the temps equalize" back when I was building jet engines.
@cesardavrieux3767
@cesardavrieux3767 Год назад
Y calentar el orificio que hace que éste se expanda y abra, facilitando la introducción del cuerpo de la rótula. No olvidar un lubricante, para evitar fricción extra o recalentamientos si el diámetro es pequeño. Cualquier interpretación, será a vuestro propio riesgo. 😅
@forgetfulme1719
@forgetfulme1719 Год назад
a hack too proud to learn your advice, and too dumb to understand physics.
@gimmeaford9454
@gimmeaford9454 Год назад
Not always feasible in a shop
@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
Dry Ice generally available in metro areas, possibly even still available at Baskin Robbins. I once made the mistake of going to my sisters for dinner, bringing a quart of ice cream, with a chunk of dry ice in the bag..... put the whole bag in her freezer... by dessert time we had a quart of concrete... two days in freezer before it would yield to a scoop. Memories.@@gimmeaford9454
@patrickchavez3848
@patrickchavez3848 Год назад
Woo Hoo Another successful repair by Ray!!
@metalworker007
@metalworker007 Год назад
Weight on wheels before tightening - pleased ..very good :)
@MacRODesign55
@MacRODesign55 Год назад
Ray as ever, your substitution superpower hit a home run changing a ridiculous expensive tool install into a semi-basic tool exercise. Your analytical skills are awesome. Respect from downunder.
@NTromb
@NTromb Год назад
9:16 My favorite trim tool for so many different things and yes, it works wonderful as well as the bigger kind of pry bar trim tool has worked very well for other things as well that you don’t want to mess up
@danieldyer1
@danieldyer1 Год назад
There was a spacer between the old ball joint and the knuckle. Now that the new ball joint has already been pressed in, my “expert hindsight”😊 wonders if it needed to be in there.
@JRattheranch
@JRattheranch Год назад
I noticed that too! 🤔🧐
@mikedoblo4782
@mikedoblo4782 Год назад
its a spacer but also a has a shield to protect ball joint rubber
@rosselnator
@rosselnator Год назад
Why have loctite on the screws then?
@justpray365
@justpray365 Год назад
Nice catch. I’ll have to go back and look at that.👏
@module79l28
@module79l28 Год назад
I was looking for this comment. It seems like a clear oversight from Ray.
@otissmith7057
@otissmith7057 Год назад
"Adapt and overcome" would be a great mission statement for your shop Ray. Your ability to create the means and methodology to overcome obstacles daily exhibits a high level of practical reasoning and logic. Troy is fortunate to have you as a mentor.
@georgesnider-m2e
@georgesnider-m2e Год назад
Excellent job Ray ,A mechanic is someone who can always figure things out even though he does not have those special tools great video.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 Год назад
Ray you always find a way!! Great series!
@BrettElsner
@BrettElsner Год назад
the old ball joints looked to have shims on them when they were removed - why were no shims installed with the new ball joints.
@TMccrury
@TMccrury Год назад
I like the can of Glade in the cup holder. Thats funny.
@marksmith-ew7ir
@marksmith-ew7ir Год назад
What ever work, some tools have to be modified to get the job done. Ray's videos is like a video book that he can go back to as many job's don't go the same way and help let the customer see what he did to fix the problem and when he looks over the vehicle's to access what needs to be replaced, what is more important to fix now and needs attention a few months down the road as he looks out for customers pocket. That's why he has a great following, a family run business is great.
@shadetreemech290
@shadetreemech290 Год назад
Hey, I love the sound of Oliver Anthony in the background starting at about 28:00 .
@sgtzsquad
@sgtzsquad Год назад
Thank you again sensai for the lesson with the ball joints. Excellent content.
@MarkHite
@MarkHite Год назад
Hi Ray, I noticed on the video where you removed the ball joints on this van, there was a thin piece of stamped metal sandwiched between the ball joint flange and mount. I'm guessing these were heat shields to protect the ball joint from the heat coming off the brake disc. I see you didn't reinstall these with the new ball joints and I hope it doesn't lead to premature failure of the new ball joints.
@homieshenna
@homieshenna Год назад
Put the ball joint in the freezer (it will shrink), heat the receiving part until red hot (it will expand), apply.
@vernonbosshard9317
@vernonbosshard9317 Год назад
Did a Volvo that had the same design, except Volvo uses an adapter you simply hammer on. I used a large socket and hammer. Next time I will order the adapter, its cheap enough. Same deal with order of operations to make everything fit. I found the ball joint wasn't seated completely, tap and tighten until the bolts stay tight. First time I did one of that design but common sense tells you what to do. This Volvo used an aluminum LCA, the ball joint was part of the arm, but the new arm did not come with it, thanks Moog!! The BJ hole was closed end too.
@johnchambers12
@johnchambers12 Год назад
If you lived in the rust belt you might put never seize on the ball joint before inserting it. And this would assist the next owner of the ball joint when he gets it from the scrap yard.
@lexannaamnell6593
@lexannaamnell6593 7 месяцев назад
I put that stuff on almost everything 😂😂😂😂
@jeffally9115
@jeffally9115 Год назад
That was fun to watch ray ray I definitely enjoyed it 😊😊😊😊
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Год назад
Hi Ray. About those press-fit ball joints, what about heating the steering knuckle in that area with some FIRE! Yeah, fire. Because expanding metal gets hot. No, wait, that’s not it. Hot metal expands. There we go. Language. 😊
@joshuayoung1806
@joshuayoung1806 Год назад
You young guns and your battery non torquages are still a wonder. I've never felt failure when clickages are noticed. Keep than new speed mechanic stuff on the regular my man. We respect those things.
@dragonsvain7096
@dragonsvain7096 Год назад
I always jack up control arm after I connect to the ball joint so it lines up the bushings makes it very easy
@madddawg1369
@madddawg1369 Год назад
That job is a proper area for swerking. Swearing while Working. Proud of you Ray for not doing what I would have done!
@michaelpressman7203
@michaelpressman7203 Год назад
After that destructive dissembly yesterday, I'm glade to see today with a little ingenuity you avoided buying special tools.Have a great day
@rongonzales9326
@rongonzales9326 Год назад
Morning Ray!
@rz1587
@rz1587 Год назад
Corner break the top edge of balljoint with segmented abrasive wheel and apply high temp copper antiseize. 50% less force needed. Contrary to popular belief, antiseize will allow pressfit to hold better by eliminating galling of dry assem😊bly.
@brucemadden1626
@brucemadden1626 Год назад
You use a fair amount of silicone on your spark plug boots, maybe a good idea to use a little grease, ant-seize, etc on your bolts and splines??
@rickfink464
@rickfink464 Год назад
You're impact reminded me, i need to charge my batteries. I'm replacing the bolts on the suspension of my utility trailer with some wet bolts, and my impact won't break the old bolts loose without heating them with a torch first.
@sandy7m
@sandy7m Год назад
Those kind of bushings are a pain but...... Creat a slight chamfer on the first 1/4 inch of the ball joint body with a flapperwheel (on an angle grinder) . Polish off the chamfer with fine emery. Smear assembly grease around all the press fit areas. Still goes on tight but wont bend flanges or chance wiping out threads. . I would have used the original bolts that you first tried but a nut at the flange. That way you can hold back on the bolt while tightening up the nut . this assembnbly prevents the chances of tearing up the mounting threads. I never use a power tool when pressing in ball joints and bushings. A spanner gives a better feel for what is happening as the press fit task is done.
@Userf451
@Userf451 Год назад
The shop walls look very nice.
@bradlininger6393
@bradlininger6393 Год назад
My favorite part of these videos is hearing the music in the background. We listen to the same shit keep kicking ass screw the haters
@christopherten-eyck4473
@christopherten-eyck4473 Год назад
I agree 👍 💯 about making my own special tools and saving money 💰. Another great idea, good work. Love your channel ❤️ 💕. Hello from Pa USA 🇺🇸. Thanks.
@hppower7410
@hppower7410 Год назад
I did my own in my service Van. Put new ball joints in the Freezer for 2 hours and then heated the cast with a torch lightly. Much easier.
@markbeiser
@markbeiser Год назад
If you are ever doing the wheel bearing, strut and ball joint on a Transit, Ford sells a pre-assembled steering knuckle and strut assembly with it all on there already.
@hickorystx
@hickorystx Год назад
This is where experience and smarts save the day. Overall, a difficult job but through it all, you persevered.!!! Very impressive all the way around. Didn't have to buy a $600 tool either!!! It would be an honor to just observe and help you where I could.
@MKHNitro
@MKHNitro Год назад
Next time you have a job like that put the ball joints in the freezer and apply a bit of heat to the knuckle casting - makes it easier to get the ball joints in to seat
@peterbenson3776
@peterbenson3776 Год назад
Good thinking !
@waylonlingerfeldt1899
@waylonlingerfeldt1899 Год назад
I've noticed a certain song in the background of your last few videos. Awesome.
@sjupicudacuda898
@sjupicudacuda898 Год назад
over yonder!!!!love it!
@MrSkunknuts
@MrSkunknuts Год назад
These channels always have guys asking for toolbox/shop tours. I’m over here wanting to see Rays epic collection of lights. That’s the tour I want.
@garywright5556
@garywright5556 Год назад
And we have RAINMAN RAY and OLIVER ANTHONY for the win. Another great entertaining and educational video.
@stephenspankmonkey2594
@stephenspankmonkey2594 Год назад
"I'm only made of, erm, Human" - made me lough out loud - thank you Ray, you brighten my day! 😂
@ryulee458
@ryulee458 Год назад
Well good morning Ray 🌄 part 2 on the work van
@adrianreyno1
@adrianreyno1 Год назад
Ray, I know mechanic work is not easy. You did a great job improvising with the tools you have, you make it look easy. I really like watching your videos on RU-vid, it's very educational. 👍
@wboyd33
@wboyd33 Год назад
In case anyone was wondering what song was playing about the 28 minute mark, it is Oliver Anthony singing Rich Men North of Richmond.
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 Год назад
excellent job ray,,,really well done!
@georgesalyer9074
@georgesalyer9074 Год назад
Props to ya for over come and adapt, if interested in special tool look at otc
@thomaslyon2112
@thomaslyon2112 Год назад
Even if Ray has a freezer at the shop, most of the time he gets the new parts as he is working on the car. Doesn’t have time to wait a few hours for the part to get cold enough to shrink. Ok if you get the part today an won’t work on the car until tomorrow. You still have to remember to put the part in the freezer. LOL😮👍🇺🇸
@timjohnun4297
@timjohnun4297 Год назад
I used to use the same method when installing the top ball joints into Mitsubishi Rosa buses. I had a set of 3 bolts that I would use to align the holes, tighten them until they were snug, then swap them out for a thinner bolt that went through the threaded section of the control arm, and put a nut on top. Then I could tighten the crap out of them without risking damage to the threads in the control arm. I did damage the threads quite regularly, on the bolts, but saved a ton of time from not having to remove the control arm. And I could just bin the bolts when done
@James_Hough
@James_Hough Год назад
So much of that front bumper support assembly seems like the engineers forgot that they needed those crash bar supports until they were almost finished and just threw it in there at the end.
@dampysteri246
@dampysteri246 Год назад
They actually are. The transits here in europe do not have those. And since this is a european design, the USA version is probably redesigned for American regulations.
@richardbattles3626
@richardbattles3626 Год назад
Thanks!
@rwamchubb7977
@rwamchubb7977 Год назад
Have you ever heard necessity is the mother of invention! You are true mechanic.
@grahammctygue724
@grahammctygue724 Год назад
If there ever was a two impact job that is it wow be blessed
@jimgillikin3217
@jimgillikin3217 Год назад
Freeze the ball joint for an hour. The metal will shrink about.002 of an inch. This will make the ball joint easier to fit in to the knuckle. 😊
@onsitecmptr
@onsitecmptr Год назад
Good job. Thumbs up for the Sturggle Jennings song: 'God we need you now'
@jamothegreat6052
@jamothegreat6052 Год назад
Wow the second ball joint you did went so much smoother. I really didn't see the flames bend. Although I am a little bit inebriated right now. I think you did a great job. I hated doing press in ball joints.
@rjb6327
@rjb6327 Год назад
Good rig on the ball joints. 👍 (couldn't find the finger emoji for Ford) 😉
@bobhoulihan3652
@bobhoulihan3652 Год назад
Everything is a hammer love it.
@Laugh1ngboy
@Laugh1ngboy Год назад
Lol Oliver Anthony in the back ground.
@clintonturner5545
@clintonturner5545 Год назад
Looking good on the left. Looking good on the right. Looking good on the firing line.
@robertpage2023
@robertpage2023 Год назад
Wondered why you didn't use two impacts working simultaneously? That would have put equal force on the part, assuming you kept the part with equal pressure through your skill of impact operation.
@jgraehling01
@jgraehling01 Год назад
I’ve always put the ball joint in the freezer and used heat where it is pressed in.
@BorderlinePathetic
@BorderlinePathetic Год назад
I appreciate whatever radio channel or playlist you guys are using over there.
@BlamBlam80
@BlamBlam80 Год назад
1st time I have ever seen you cowboy something but I don't believe the ball joints actually needed changing as they split so easy.
@randybeard6040
@randybeard6040 Год назад
I would put a Torch on Ball Joint Shackle and make it Expand so Ball Joint would Slid in much easier...
@johnmcnaught7453
@johnmcnaught7453 Год назад
A true Systems Modification Engineer.
@mjjr1000
@mjjr1000 Год назад
Had to do exactly same job few months back only difference is mine were rusted into the metal sleave of the bushing so i just used a grinder to cut the arms off.
@lesstoneuk
@lesstoneuk Год назад
Fridge and gas torch..... Cool the ball joint, heat the casting
@ItsCleto
@ItsCleto Год назад
Ford with another lovely design.
@williamfindspeople4341
@williamfindspeople4341 Год назад
You definitely earned your money on this one, Ray. Nice job!!
@artillerest43rdva7
@artillerest43rdva7 Год назад
great method to press in the ball joints! it is bad how the front end is damaged and you have to adjust mounting parts. great video, can not wait for the next one!
@lempa6689
@lempa6689 Год назад
Rayyy, lover your videos, but I think you forgot to put back the little metal covers / spacers which were under the ball joints :/// anyway, best of luck!
@nevrcm3261
@nevrcm3261 Год назад
changed my diff on E46 M# and had to improvise and built a custom tool to extract the diff bushing in the subframe....extra time and effort to figure it out but worked!
@TerryDavies
@TerryDavies Год назад
i have allways put components llike ball joints in the freezer, makes fitting easier
@nicknicu1787
@nicknicu1787 Год назад
Yeah but you forgot installing the heat shields from the old ball joints that go in the square holes behind the ball joint seen at 1: 54 and 9: 59 min.
@andyrbush
@andyrbush Год назад
Oddly satisfying to watch it all go together.
@colinspencer2205
@colinspencer2205 Год назад
I'd put the ball joint in the freezer overnight, heat the socket hole with propane flame then slip the ball joint in quickly. Might need to run the two bolts up to lock it into position while the joint and the socket resume normal size and lock together.
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