Special Troops M91 Carcano Carbine and the M91/24 Carbine

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"Special Troops" does not mean Special Forces; it means all the various service branches that need neither a full length rifle nor a permanently attached bayonet. This included artillery, engineers, naval troops, and more. The Moschetto 91 TS was basically a carbine-length Carcano rifle, albeit with a unique perpendicular bayonet lug. These carbines became quite popular during World War One. After the war, instead of restarting M91 TS production, the Italian military opted to convert worn out M91 long rifles to TS carbine pattern. This model is easily identified by the short barrel but long rear sight base, and was designated the M91/24. More than a quarter million of these conversion were made at the Terni Arsenal between 1924 and 1929.
When the supply of suitable candidates for long rifle conversion ran dry, production of the M91 TS restarted, now using standard bayonet lugs. They would remain in production until 1938, when Italy adopted the 7.35mm cartridge, and after the reversion to 6.5mm in 1940. They are extremely handy little carbines!
Thanks to InterOrdnance / Royal Tiger Imports for providing these carbines from their Ethiopian imports for the video!
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@deterstruble 4 года назад

I didn't know I wanted bayonet bloopers, but here we are

@aeddonmckaba9797 4 года назад

I'm so happy Ian included footage of bayonets falling off. The instant he mentioned it, I thought: "I wonder if he has any videos with that happening?" And then my question was answered immediately afterwards.

@Seb-Storm 4 года назад

Yup, I started to picture such situation when bam he posts two video examples

@Ishmaille 4 года назад

I've never understood why bayonet lugs seem so flimsy. Like, first of all, you're supposed to be able to very forcefully hit and rip at someone with it. And secondly, having a sharp blade fly off your gun seems like a danger to friendlies around you.

@dakotamyrick 3 года назад

I just picked up a 91TS with the serial number just a few thousand earlier than your example. The sling swivel's are on the side and not on the bottom. Luckily mine has a cleaning rod. Cheers.

@marcobalducci5395 4 года назад

I absolutely ADORE the little hand gesture that he makes when talking about the "truppe speciali"

@AshleyPomeroy 4 года назад

It's as if he's thinking in Italian.

@pericleagliateniesilettera6159 4 года назад

Hi Marco . I totally agree with you. The way Ian's hand gesture emphatize the words "truppe speciali" like an orchestraconductor it's totally Italian style.

@chrisr251 4 года назад

The biggest problem with the 91/24 carbines is that because the rifles used gain-twist or progressive rifling, and the fastest twist was towards the muzzle end of the rifle barrel, they have a great deal of difficulty stabilizing the 160 grain standard bullets with the front of the barrel removed. The bullets fired from these carbines will often keyhole as close as 20 yards if you try to use a bullet weighing over about 100 grains. The reason they went with the 91/24 wasn't just because they liked them, but because cash was very tight, and they couldn't afford to make as many new guns. So existing stocks of worn long rifles were converted more out of necessity than because they were especially functional. They knew that these carbines would be unlikely to hit anything at farther than close range. However, until they could come up with more cash, it was their only option.

@iainsmith6643 4 года назад

Italian guns require much more waving of hands when being discussed

@IIARROWS 4 года назад

As long as you don't do it while shooting...

@exploatores 4 года назад

so that was why the germans had to help them in northafrica.

@micahreid5553 4 года назад

Italian requires much more waving of hands

@IceWolfLoki 4 года назад

Spoken Italian is just Italian for the blind.

@stevemoore6245 3 года назад

and expresso

@lucacali8423 4 года назад

The most secure bayonet lug system, because nothing screams "Italia" as an Ardito running angrily towards you screaming blasphemies

@akustihakonen7928 4 года назад

So basically a Japanese Banzai charger but with a carbine and secure bayonet and no katanas?

@lucacali8423 4 года назад

Yeah something like that. But if you were really (un)lucky they could also have a dagger between the teeth and grenades. Nasty stuff.

@dylanwight5764 4 года назад

@@lucacali8423 Honestly that just sounds like a regular Saturday night in commercial hospitality

@ConcernedCitizen627 4 года назад

Thanks, I recently won a Carcano at an auction and was having trouble with identifying it properly. I don't feel so bad now that you said there were so many versions.

@maledetto1221 4 года назад

We're probably halfway from all the variants, considering that he talks about them in groups

@chrisr251 4 года назад

@@maledetto1221 And that isn't including all of the depot level variations that were slapped together out of parts.

@pyroclastictomato3278 4 года назад

Never say that an italian can't reuse the same gimmick 50 years straight.

@jimstanga6390 4 года назад

At last! After years of watching these videos and burning with envy, I find that I am finally “One Up” on Ian! I have both the 1891 TS Moschetto Carbine AND the cross mount bayonet in my collection.

@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

Lucky bastard! 😜

@philips.5563 4 года назад

Tag him in a pic in Instagram or something. It would be interesting to see.

@ostsan8598 4 года назад

That's better than me. I only have an 1898 TS Moschetto, sans bayonet.

@Weth_C 3 года назад

I did mine kind of backwards. I got the bayonet from my grandad and bought the gun to match it. Lol

@Mibit911 11 месяцев назад

@@ostsan8598 yeah i got one but am also missing the bayonet paid about 250 for mine and shoots touching holes at 30 yards so not a bad rifle for me. Not the smoothest action but so small light and easy recoil as well as good accuracy at least with mine and all the ammo I've shot makes it a great little rifle

@zedsdeadbaby 4 года назад

shoutout to sk cn2 for doing the subtitles on these videos, it's a little-praised task but an immensely beneficial one. godspeed to you bro

@SlickJim2 4 года назад

Seeing Ian cycle a bolt action makes me want to have a left handed gun as a right hander

@tdugong 4 года назад

Play Fallout.

@SlickJim2 4 года назад

@@tdugong Or far cry 2 with the glorious stripper clip loading from below Springfield

@BleedingUranium 4 года назад

007: Nightfire also featured left-handed Arctic Warfare rifles used right-handed.

@KhrisMiddletonFitnessOfficial Год назад

@@SlickJim2 I have an image of that reload with the caption "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?", courtesy of IMFDB.

@svtirefire 4 года назад

Imagine being so excited to correct someone's pronunciation that you don't look at the comments first and see that it's already been done 30 times.

@An_Lei_Laoshi 4 года назад

Because it is insanely funny when you know the meaning of the word with the same sound of "moshetto"

@FordPrefect23 4 года назад

And not just on this video! People still feel the need to correct it and likely don't realise the videos were all recorded together a while ago. It will probably be the same for the rest of this series.

@gus6777 7 месяцев назад

What a sad life you must have to focus on things like that

@izzy1948 4 года назад

I know you have mentioned that your next book might possibly be on Japanese rifles, however, I think you should definitely entertain the idea of doing a book on Italian rifles. They are probably the most under appreciated military rifles out there.

@davidkenworthy2403 4 года назад

Very concise rendering of the gun, more info than I ever would have thought was available! Gr8 jo8, it is hard to belive you don't have a staff researching, recording, editing, and producing your video's! I'm a fan! Blessings Dave

@enricopaolocoronado2511 4 года назад

Say what you will of Italy during both World Wars, but they have some interesting design choices when it came to designing firearms.

@zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад

They also had the good idea to move to an intermediate cartridges before anyone else.

@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

@@zacharyrollick6169 ? Oh, I guess the Arisaka Type 30 wasn't adopted until 1898...

@janwacawik7432 4 года назад

@@ScottKenny1978 6.5 Arisaka isn't really intermediate. Lighter on the rifle round scale, but still A rifle round.

@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

@@janwacawik7432 it's 2600joules, the 7.62x39 is 2100. Grendel is also right around 2600joules.

@zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад

@@ScottKenny1978 It isn't TECHNICALLY an intermediate cartridges, but ballistics are in that ball park.

@maxschindler3535 4 года назад

Great video as always. I always learn so much

@Buck_Plankchest 4 года назад

What a great history channel. Thank you for the work.

@witchywoman165 15 дней назад

Ian I really miss your shows on amazon prime with your distinctive intro music. I wish you did more of those on TV. I have a cavalry carcano with the more rare latch bayonet catch but my next buy will be one of these 91/24's. I just wish ammo was cheaper.

@howsitgoing972 4 года назад

Gotta love a video from your fav RU-vidr on one of your favorite weapons, on your birthday n’ all!

@elishahmiles6740 4 года назад

Happy birthday!

@lucar.5045 4 года назад

Today's Olive Garden special: Bruschetta with Moschetto

@-TheRealPatriot- 4 года назад

Loved the Video Ian! Love the book as well. Chasspot to Famas! Special one with signature! Also I recently got a nearly perfect m96 Swedish Mauser that was made in 1902!

@jeremiahakerman7333 4 года назад

I purchased one of these a few years back at Field, Johnstown, OH Swapper's Day. I was really looking for an M38 Carcano rifle, but this was the only Carcano I could find. Almost passed on it, but I couldn't turn down the good deal. All in all I don't have any regrets it fires decently and made a nice addition to my gun collection.

@EdwardZhou_TJOL56 4 года назад

The PDW concept before assault rifles were a thing

@DiscordOfDave 4 года назад

I’ll be honest, I actually really like how they handled the attachment of the bayonet.

@johncashwell1024 4 года назад

Great job explaining the confusing Italian rifles!

@timnavarrette3274 4 года назад

I have one of these in 6.5. Took the bayonet off,had a side mount scope set up on it. Bolt work ,little. Hand load for it. Shoots great.

@tjo4087 4 года назад

Great video and nice history lesson.

@meh7713 4 года назад

I have 2 M38’s and 1 91/28, the 91/28’s my favorite of the 3 to shoot and feels like the best quality one.

@aj-wl6xi 3 месяца назад

[Min 6:45 reaction] OMG, finally, after searching all the variants and beating my head against the wall I finally made sense of my fathers Carcano. I couldn't figure out why his Carcano had a slit in the end where the bayonet lug went and thought maybe someone had taken his 1916 TS barrel and put it in a different model but still TS stock. The end of the stock has a slit in it where a folding bayonet would go but the barrel is either much too short for one or the bayonet lug is wrong (or so I thought). But the stock cannot accommodate an inlaid bayonet lug (like the M38) and thus the lug must be correct. Which brought me here. Seeing the 1918 version of the M91 and the M91/24 next to each other showed me that the Italians retrofitted things as needed and when practical (which means not necessarily a complete retrofit). So my dad's M91 from 1916 likely was a retrofitted carcano from a previously folding bayonet like that of the M91's made in 1893 where the bayonet was a long, skinny, and triangular bayonet. This means that the slot is simply there as a kind of Vestigial marker or anachronism. THANK YOU!! This has weighed on my mind for weeks.

@vtfirearms9778 4 года назад

For extra confusion, I have a TS Moschetto dated 1916 with a normal bayonet lug and a short rear sight. I'm assuming they must have updated some of the old pattern carbines to have the new nosecap at some point but that doesn't seem to be an official separate model designation. It also has no upper handguard but I think it's just missing.

@ForgottenWeapons 4 года назад

Correct - they did update early rifles later on and di not give them a new designation.

@simoneboxler1065 4 года назад

Ian... I know that you don't care probably... But is "mosketto". I love your video!

@danielecrespi1051 4 года назад

I'll join the pronounciation nazi bandwagon by saying that "speciali" is pronounced "spechali"

@threepwood92 4 года назад

@@danielecrespi1051 to be more clear, the "ci" in "speciali" is pronounced like the "chi" in "chips"

@lptomtom 4 года назад

Ian is actually pretty open to being corrected on pronounciation (for example he used to call the Chauchat a "shosho" like other clueless Americans since 1917, but he's worked a lot on his French in the past years)

@threepwood92 4 года назад

On the other hand, he said "Brescia" pretty damn well!

@TheBlackAnomaly 4 года назад

"Moscietto" da quel tocco di impotenza

@mogimbo 4 месяца назад

That is an ADORABLE little carbine

@loupiscanis9449 4 года назад

Thank you , Ian .

@aztecducky Год назад

I just had a customer trade me a 1928 Carcano and was having trouble identifying it. I now know it's a 1928 91 TS Thanks

@jimlarimer2104 3 года назад

Thank you for the extensive review. My 91/24 from Buds has a bulged barrel about 6 inches from the muzzle, Buds refused return since i didn't report within 1 week. I've never seen a bulged barrel and at first thought the black ring inside the barrel was due to the 'gain twist rifling' of this model. So now i have a $249 wallhanger. Live and learn i guess.

@Imakethepoopies 4 года назад

Does anyone else get excited when Ian does a vid on a gun you own, so you go get said gun and cuddle with it while watching the vid??

@paolofortini5263 8 месяцев назад

A small correction on the Italian pronunciation. When there is an "H" between the "C" and the vowels E and I (not for A, O, U) the sound is "hard" (mosketto); the sound is "soft" when there is no H, exactly the opposite to English

@iac4357 20 дней назад

Ian unfortunately doesn't discuss how the Barrels were shortened. Some were simply chopped shorter. Some were cut shorter, drilled out, and had a new rifled Insert pressed in. Others still apparently had the Breech Face shortened, the Chamber was recut, and the Barrel reinserted.

@M.M.83-U 4 года назад

Great video.

@Mibit911 11 месяцев назад

Such an interesting history it took me a bit of deduction to figure out what kind my carcano was, so mine was made in 1929, it has the short nose cap and barrel band, it has a sling swivel on thr band and on the stock and also has a sling mount on the side of the stock but not on the forearm. It has the fixed carbine style sight so it's not a cut down 91/24 and it's accuracy is too good for that. So thanks to this video I can now say with pretty assuredly I have a m91 Carcano TS post 1928 variation. It's such a handy nice little rifle with such light recoil and smooth easy loading clips. You can tell its not the smoothest but it sure as hell beats a mosin nagant

@shawnr771 4 года назад

Nice rifles. Interesting how older rifles were converted for continued use.

@FokkerAce1917 4 года назад

Supposedly because of the gain twist rifling and chopping off half the barrel, they were not able to properly stabilize the bullet. Don't know how true that was because they kept doing it, but it seems like that would make sense.

@giacintoboccia9386 4 года назад

Being a poor country we don't throw guns away, I expect lots of those still being in the arsenals, like the M1 Garands do.

@giacintoboccia9386 4 года назад

Found this piece of information: During the 70s and 80s we had a big terrorism problem and they decided to reduce the stored weapons (terrorists used to steal them) so they destroyed some thousands of the various Carcanos that were still stored. It doesn't say that none was left, and I'm still convinced that many are in storage.

@LarryDeSilva64 Год назад

I got mine from Royal Tiger Imports today and mine was from the same arsenal but mine was made in 1906 and totally numbers matching very cool rifle to have in my collection. As with all of these from Ethiopia they are a bit dirty but mine has no cracks and functions flawlessly.

@walterdavis4808 4 года назад

Thanks. I got one to see if they were as bad as i had heard and was very supised how good it really is. For its time it is extreamly advanced .

@JW...-oj5iw 4 года назад

I can tell by looking, your keyboard has an r.

@maledetto1221 4 года назад

The had a bad name due to bad importations and wrong ammo

@walterdavis4808 4 года назад

@@maledetto1221 true. Surplus ammo was junk. New ammo was very good

@douglasbiegel9688 4 года назад

Because of this video,I ordered the M91/24 from Royal Tiger. Easy transaction. I will see how it is in a week or so. Your channel is the best.

@enricofesta1161 4 года назад

You can probably find some of these rifles stocked in some Italian Army reserve storage.

@paulnelson8496 3 года назад

They sold em all to Ethiopia in the 70s. That’s where mine came from

@umbratilecandelaio7830 3 года назад

Ian I absolutely love your channel and your incredible accuracy. You are also always very accurate with pronunciation so you will not mind a little correction here. In Italian "ch" always sounds like a hard "k", so when you say 'moschetto' it should sound like 'mosketto' (same goes for pistacchios or pinocchio :P )

@DetectingArizona 4 года назад

Can you also do a video on the t91/38 in 8mm Mauser?

@Jack72607 4 года назад

Moscetto per TRUPPE SPEZIALI 😍 Ian + Italian is just perfect

@maledetto1221 4 года назад

Truppe speziate

@TheSharkeyandgeorge 4 года назад

Ian do you get to keep these?, if so I would love to see some deep cleaning videos on them

@ostsan8598 4 года назад

You would, you perv. Hehehe. (not that I wouldn't mind some deep cleaning vids as well).

@adventureswithducky4088 4 года назад

These make the progression of the numbering of the various Lee Enfields seem quite straight forward.

@stacybrown3714 4 года назад

Okay? My TS dated 1916 has yet a different nose cap. The rear sling swivel was removed and filled. Then a slilg bar added to the side of the stock. Also a front slingbar to the forarm. It has the carbine sights and the bayo overtravel bumps. The nosecap loos like the first one you described not with a straight attaching bayo and no sling swivel. Thanks for all your work.

@maledetto1221 4 года назад

Probably a conversion during the last days of war, after the '43 the two main arsenals were divided: Terni was under the allied control, while Brescia was under the nazi/fascist, so I wouldn't be sorprised if they didn't add any marking but just convert the rifle(it could have been an artisan)

@stacybrown3714 4 года назад

@@maledetto1221 Cool I will try to find out if that's the case. I really like the little carbine. The vet who brought it home discarded the firing pin so I need to get one. Other than that it is intact. Thanks for the help.

@Pope005 3 года назад

Great video! I keep seeing these pop up and thought about picking one up. But ammo is basically impossible to find now. Anyone know a solution for that?

@ostsan8598 4 года назад

@forogttenweapons I actually bought a Carcano rifle because of your recent videos. A lovely M91TS made in 1898 by the Brescia factory. Unfortunately, she still lacks a proper cleaning rod and bayonet (the first pattern carbine bayonet). These parts have been difficult to find. If you had any hints as to where these pieces were available, it would be greatly appreciated. I've got an unopened bottle of grappa, if that helps.

@edmoore1661 4 года назад

I have one of these in 8mm Mauser. It appears to have been an arsenal done conversion and shoots great and is very accurate. Everyone said it would blow up but nope. I have about 500 rounds thru it and it is a single shot only as there are no clips for the 8mm Mauser that I could find. Kicks like a mule but fun to shoot. It has a big "s" on the action cover and on the bolt handle indicating it is not a regular Carcano and 7.9mm on the fixed rear sight.

@toxikyle5419 Год назад

I had one of these! Sold it to a collector of Middle Eastern firearms who informed me that those 8mm Mauser conversions were done by the Egyptian army as either a training rifle or second-line service rifle back when they first adopted the Hakim and didn't have enough of them to issue to all their troops at first.

@beechfox3423 4 года назад

Cutting down a gain twist barrel would result in a lesser effective twist rate would it not? Or was the rifling fully accelerated by the 17” mark?

@neutronalchemist3241 4 года назад

The 91/24 mantained the old rifling, infact they are known to keyhole. However those were intended to be stopgap weapons for rear echelon troops, the ones that in WWI had been armed with the converted Vetterli.

@drmachinewerke1 4 года назад

@Neutron Alchemist I bought one at Sears for 17.00 Keyhole is a understatement.

@USSEnterpriseA1701 4 года назад

@@neutronalchemist3241 It's a wonder, considering that these were seemingly made from worn rifles in the first place, that they didn't opt for a Salerno process relining when they made them. Seems to me that might have been something worth doing to these.

@arandomfawn5289 4 года назад

3:40 " that wasn't supposed to happen" moments

@Demospammer9987 3 года назад

Just got an M91 that's dated 1913. Really nice and light rifle, for sure.

@gregoriodraghicchio1716 3 года назад

Ian will be very interesting some video showing Carcano 91/38 TS cal. 7.92 Mauser

@johnburt7935 4 года назад

I am *_SO_* glad that when we were shown the promised "bayonet launched from a rifle", it wasn't the earliest kind of bayonet, which was literally stuffed into the muzzle of a muzzle-loader, and would have to be pulled off before it could be fired, and battlefield conditions being what they are, some soldiers would put the powder, wadding and ball down the barrel and then affix the bayonet, and then either the rifle would fire prematurely or they'd simply forget that the bayonet was still in the muzzle.... I'm guessing that mistake was only made once per gunner, possibly only once per gun.

@treyriver5676 4 года назад

nice info, I have what at first glance is a 91/24 but is not at 41.5 inch it seems to be one of Kliens "italia Suprema" action in a 91 stock with issue front band sights not correct as still marked to 2000 meter

@adamhathaway756 4 года назад

Can anyone elaborate on the significance of slinging a rifle over the shoulder versus across the back? He mentioned it several times, in relation different sorts of troops.

@christianfritz6333 3 года назад

I have an 1891 ts exactly like the one in the front with the cross mount lug, however the sling mounts are side mounted with no evidence of having them on the bottom the stock is serialized and matches. Do I have a unicorn? Or more then likely a replaced stock?

@pennsyltuckyden9823 3 года назад

You make the most interesting and informative videos on classic weapons, thank you so much for educating us all these years. You might like to check out a quick review I have on this rifle, thanks.

@twhontehwon200 4 года назад

Mind blowing

@budprepper3811 4 года назад

do you have a video on the 8mm mauser carcanos?

@1südtiroltechnik 4 года назад

How did they treat these wood handles, which oil/wax and whats the technique?

@thebestofla1 4 года назад

Dear Ian, thanks for the incredible content! You should pronunce MOSKETTO, not Moshetto.

@michaelw.urbansr.8617 11 месяцев назад

Hey brother i have loved your video's since the 1st one i ever watched a long time ago! I have a question about this version which i purchased from RTI. Its one of the models that was stored and kept by the Italian Gov. Is there a way to tell to whome it was issued too? Not the person but the type of unit? Like Artilliry or Naval units and so on? Id love to know what type of troops ,used my rifle? Thanks

@64starfox 4 года назад

I have one of these in 8mm Mauser that was sold to Egypt as a training rifle.

@sergemaster 4 года назад

I have a Model 38 TS beautiful blonde stock, a great shooter.. I'm looking forward to your review of the M41..

@patrickdobbels2342 4 года назад

Hello I just bought one of the TS carbines. The front band is just like the sideways one but the lug is front to back. Any answers? Please return my question.

@fishdisc7022 4 года назад

Didn't they use gain twist rifling in the long guns? If they cut those down wouldn't it cause accuracy problems?

@MrRedsjack 4 года назад

Did he ever mentioned that the Finn's used the upgraded version of the Carcano to great effect against the Russians (winter war) and that the bullet used by the upgraded Carcano was used as an inspiration to make the AK 47s standard bullet (which is essentially the same as the Carcano's upgraded bullet). (the Italian army didn't get the upgraded version because of production costs, they only sold it to the Finn's and few others when war came they went back to making the older version in order to avoid logistics issues and production slow downs)

@neutronalchemist3241 4 года назад

Actually to manufacture the 7.35 was cheaper than manufacturing the 6.5. they gave up due to logistic considerations, since they couldn't build enough rifles to equip the entire army in short time, and didn't want to supply two different rifle ammunitions.

@maledetto1221 4 года назад

The Italian sold to them because it was to expensive to rearm all the army and they didn't had the time(it was introduced in the '38) to produce enough, the fact that they had to cut the old rifles from WW1 shows how difficult it could be to produce enough for a war

@georgesmith5708 4 года назад

@@maledetto1221 gli amatori parlano di tattica e strategia, i professionisti parlano di logistica

@neutronalchemist3241 4 года назад

@@maledetto1221 the shortening of the old rifles had been made in 1924 and ceased in 1928, when they started to build brand new 91/28TS. The situation ten years later was completely different. Simply the production of new rifles started in 1938, the war in Europe begun a year later, and it was clear that, in case Italy decided to join it, there would have not been enough time to equip all the army with the new caliber. The 91/24 TS were intended to be stopgap weapons for rear echelon troops not destined to the first line. The same troops that in WWI had been equipped with converted Vetterli.

@williamsullivan9401 4 года назад

I have a Torre Annunziata 1897 production carbine, serial number UY1276. Now sporterized.

@avengermkii7872 4 года назад

What was the gun that he was using for the second bayonet fail? I know the first was the Lebel rifle

@73honda350 4 года назад

Having the bayonet lug perpendicular to barrel length rather than inline probably also makes the bayonet more secure when constantly pushing/pulling it in and out of the bodies of your enemy.

@genericpersonx333 4 года назад

Italy is definitely one of many states whose pride was always cashing checks their industry just laughed at the idea of paying for. At least they ended up with most of their guns using the same ammunition unlike some others. The joys of chaos in the Interwar period.

@nickjoseph6094 3 года назад

Picked one up a couple years back, inaccurate as all hell but the trigger is pretty good for a rifle manufactured in 1917. Beautiful looking rifle too.

@THE_YIGLER 3 года назад

I cant help but wonder how the cut down rifles faired against the purpose built ones. Does the progressive rifling on the purpose built guns mimic that of the cut down ones or is it different?

@Treasuremonk 3 месяца назад

I have one a 1929 Terni. Has FAT 1947 In a circle on stock. Any idea what that stands for ?

@zacknunns242 3 года назад

After watching this i still have no idea which one i have lol its marked 1910 with no re-stamp but its got the nosecap+barrel band combo like the later ones

@dwalker7427 4 года назад

Ian! You da man!

@michaelw.urbansr.8617 11 месяцев назад

Mine has the Terrini stamps with the number 17 next to it and looks as though per the stock it was built in 1948? Or maybe a refurbishe of a much older rifle in a newer stock at some point before it came here by the armory? Will have ot watch this video twice to make sure i know hwoi to dat e the rifle as well?lol

@richardwalker8291 10 месяцев назад

I'm interested how these worked out accuracy wise, as the barrels had gain twist rifling. I would think this would cut the fast twist portion of the barrel off resulting an terrible accuracy......

@blank557 4 года назад

Sweet looking carbine. Wish ammo was more common.

@michaelw.urbansr.8617 11 месяцев назад

Even the Germans used these in the Med. and Italy as well as southern Europe! These rifles were around most of the WWII theater!!!

@anthonyhayes1267 4 года назад

Something on my priority list :)

@leonardomuzzi3978 4 года назад

This is my favorite youtube channel since 2015, I love how mechanisms work and the history behind the weapons shown. I don't want to be finichy but I think it could be interesting for you to know the correct pronunciation of some of the words included in this video: Moschetto=mosketto (like mosquito) Forze spieciali=forze spechalee (like special) Carcano= Càrcano

@bomf4252 4 года назад

Were new barrels needed when converting M91s to M91-26? Because of that gradual twist rifling?

@M.M.83-U 4 года назад

No, they use older, usually worn out/damaged and refurbished, barrels. This was a deliberately inexpensive (cheap) operation. 91/24 is the official designation.

@therealinak 4 года назад

So I’ve got a mystery rifle. I think it’s a 91/24 but it doesn’t match these rifles - at all. It’s stamped 1918 Terni. No overstamp for rearsenal. It has the long rifle sights, but they’re unmodified and the adjustable blade is full length. It’s carbine length. The rifle is in immaculate shape with perfect finish, but the stock was sporterized in the 1960s by the previous owner’s father. It was cut and rounded behind the barrel band, but retains a cleaning rod hole. The upper handguard was removed. With that said, I can’t tell what stock it wore. It’s obviously too long for a cavalry rifle and it doesn’t have the muzzle of the TS. Any idea what variant I have?

@user-gm5bv2ez2r 8 месяцев назад

the perpendicular bayonet lug, I suppose for not recoiling-off, but I have read in some Carcano books, so that the enemy soldier could not easily snatch the bayonet off the rifle. this seems rather gimmicky, like jeeps that can run six feet underwater. the Alpini? in my 27 years airborne infantry, I trained with them several times, indeed about the best light infantry I ever met, "mountain specialized" most mountain bhoys. These carbines were good for the occasional climbing raids - the Austrian troops had similar carbines, troops, & tactics

@auxmike718 4 года назад

Carcanos are so freakin cool...

@Squarebody1994 3 года назад

Yea I'm confused I just bought one the barrel says it's a m91 ts and the date is 1929 but the stock is a for a 24.. lol so I'm guessing at some point they just priced my rifle together?

@Hawk1966 4 года назад

"Hey, this carbine was the rifle my father was issued when he was in the army!"

@WalterBurton 4 года назад

The Special Troops mustered at the short bus before deployment.

@yuibot5998 4 года назад

Just ordered a 91/24 from Buds...wish me luck Also ordered brass, bullets, dies, and all that good junk. I have a Finn marked Carcano in 7.35 but this will be my first in 6.5

@stephenj.mst3kfan836 4 года назад

It's pretty funny to see a bayonet fly off the rifle, while ian is shooting, not in combat, of course. That's another story.

@RalphReagan 4 года назад

Love carcanos

@michaelw.urbansr.8617 11 месяцев назад

Hey as well these rifles were as i believe the 1st to use a 6.5Cal cartridge......Was that ahead of the curve at the time or were they too early? I was able ot only find about 4 boxs of rounds for mine so to keep it from becoming a paper weight ill only be shooting two boxes worth at the range when i finally get it t here? lol Still trying to decide whether i should get one of these carcano bayonets? Oh wow so these versions of the Carbine are set up for 50yrds at its standard setting? Then it jumps right to 400 at the 1st higher notch? Thats very good to know! thanks I planned to set up my 1st taargets for this rifle at 100yrds. But ill try it at 50 1st! awesome!