Specialized Butcher T7 - Awesome $50 tire with one major flaw

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The Specialized Butcher T7 is a sub $50 dollar tire that definitely lived up to the hype! From hard pack single track, to the loose bumpy terrain at the downhill parks, these tires made me feel confident at speed. And on the slow speed tech lines that I love to ride, they gripped the rock better than any other tire I’ve used.
Specialized Butcher T7
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I was also pleased with how light these tires were. Not all weight on a bike can be calculated the same, and adding rolling weight is one of those things that can really impact your riding. All in all, these tires performed well in all conditions and exceeded my expectations.
However, during my testing I uncovered one major flaw. After 4 months, I was surprised to find multiple detached lugs and several more with serious tears exposing the threads underneath. Having lugs shear off like this in multiple spots is not only dangerous, but it also puts a definitive end to the life of the tire. So, squeezing a few extra miles out of this tire is certainly out of the question.
But I’m curious, have any of you experienced the same issue with the Butcher, or any other specialized tire? Let me know in the comments below.
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To learn more about Specialized and their full lineup of tires, check out their website:
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To see my review of the American Classic Basanite, the other sub $50 dollar tire I review, click the link below
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Footage notes: Most shots were taken at Mt Penn in Reading PA, Rocky Ridge Park in York PA, Blue Mountain Bike Park in Palmerton PA, and Mt Creek Bike Park in Vernon NJ
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Table of Contents:
0:00 Intro
0:59 Product details
1:54 My likes
4:02 Dislikes
5:10 Pricing
5:33 Conclusion
6:35 Bloopers

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22 июл 2024

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@FoCoFlowShow 10 месяцев назад

I love the tread pattern on the butcher and the price … i thought overall shelf life was a little shorter than average but nothing dramatic like you experienced

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Well, I guess I'm harsher than most when it comes to gear, lol. Having said that, I'm back on the Basanites for now.

@jorgemendes2382 7 месяцев назад

Hi, I'm Jorge Mendes and I work for the Specialized tire team. Firstly I would like to apologize on behalf of Specialized for this failure occurred. As bicycle enthusiasts ourselves, we know well that a problem of this kind completely ruins the experience on the bike, an experience that should be a fun ride from the start. Secondly, we appreciate your sincere feedback regarding the performance and quality of our tires. Regarding this problem in specific: The “ripped” blocks from the tire “shoulder” are due to the lack of thickness of the rubber tread on the tire. Unfortunately, lack of thickness can happen when the extrusion process has not been controlled correctly. Rubber compounds, due to its intrinsic nature, are a highly volatile material and difficult to control during manufacturing and specially during the extrusion process. Especially soft compounds like T7 and T9. Our tire specifications are designed to absorb variations in the process. I am already investigating what could have gone wrong in the quality inspection process. Tires with this type of fault are under warranty and can be exchanged at the nearest Specialized retailer. Keep up the good work, Jorge

@TrailSage 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the kind message and explanation Jorge. I was hoping it was just a bad batch, and it sounds like that could very well be the case. Perhaps I will give them another shot in the future at some point. I did like them overall. Sage

@ckMTB 10 месяцев назад

That looks like a great Tyre Sage. Thanks for sharing and have a nice day. Ride on and have fun on the bike buddy🤙

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Christoph. I hope they fix the durability issues going forward.

@mtbville 10 месяцев назад

Looks like a quality tyre 🤘🔥

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Ville

@Eweryno 7 месяцев назад

Just walked over to my bike with Butcher Grid Trail T7 has maybe 2 lugs with possible peeling starting. This is after 797 miles. Now, my rear(Specialized Eliminator Grid Trail T7) has about 10-15 lugs starting to peel a bit more. Ride typical midwest trails. Both bought at same time. But overall I have been very happy with performance for what I paid.

@TrailSage 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, I feel the same way. I was happy with the overall performance too, just disappointed in the durability. Thanks for sharing Ryan!

@UltraTrailSteven 10 месяцев назад

The T7 looks like a great confidence inspiring tire (except for the lug issue). Congratulations on 3k subs!

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much Steven. It's been a long time coming ;)

@eXaviar 2 месяца назад

I am running that very butcher over 800km now and it is still goin strong. I also run different other tires by Specialized like the Grid Gravity Hillbilly T9 , Grid Trail Eliminator T7 and a Grid Trail Butcher T9 without any problems

@TrailSage 2 месяца назад

Right on Xaviar. Good to know the Specialized tires are working out for you. Perhaps I just got a bad batch or something. Thank you for the feedback. Sage

@teamohlesgars 10 месяцев назад

Great édit

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much

@AndreasRavnestad 10 месяцев назад

I've been using Butcher T9's since they came out, and worn out quite a few sets. I've never seen this issue on those. But I recently purchased a T7 for the rear wheel for dry weather, so will definitely keep an eye on that.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching and for the feedback Andreas. Please keep me posted on the T7.

@mtbkazozeki2223 3 месяца назад

It’s my third time buying the butcher that’s crazy that happened

@TrailSage 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I was kinda bummed. Thanks for commenting Ozeki

@christhrift6165 10 месяцев назад

Always run butcher on the front run an elimination or purgatory on the rear! Been running the butcher T9 on front with an elimination T7/T9 on the rear and have been holding up great all season!

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

That's a good suggestion Chris. Unfortunately the T9 is priced at $75 (but you get what you pay for right?!) RU-vid budget is tight so I made the switch back to the Basanites.

@sebastiaanpeters7358 5 месяцев назад

I had the same with the Butcher 29/2.6 T9 but because i ride in terrain with lots of thorns, cacti and sharp rocks and these tires are always localy available (i live on a caribbean island) and kinda cheap i mounted them again but now T7 compound.

@TrailSage 5 месяцев назад

That terrain sounds challenging for tires Sebastiaan. LMK how the T7 works out for you. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@RidgeLarick 10 месяцев назад

I’ve also ripped knobs off my front tire running the butcher grid trail - T9. I haven’t had the problem when running the grid gravity casing.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Hey Ridge, thanks for the feedback. I will have to look into the T9 with Gravity casing.

@oliheinz0815 2 месяца назад

I had the same issue with the Eliminator… but 2 years ago. I hope they fix that problem.

@TrailSage 2 месяца назад

Ugh sry to hear that Oli. I hope they fixed that too. Thanks for the comment.

@growlith6969 10 месяцев назад

These come on the Turbo Levo, very sticky, with CushCore they have been bomb proof. Total weight with me on the bike is like 260lbs. I've noticed that I have to get up around 35-38lbs of pressure to keep them feeling nice and stable, and yes, that IS in addition to using CushCore. I've never seen the lugs tear and I ride a lot of rock and shale.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

That's awesome. I'm happy to hear the tires have been working out for you. Thank you so much for watching the video and for the feedback.

@mindless7377 2 месяца назад

Where and what terrain you ride makes a huge difference. I had a minion dhr 2 maxterra shear off sideknobs after 300 miles. My butchers T7/9 are still holding strong after 600 miles and will probably last 800~1000 miles

@TrailSage 2 месяца назад

So true, and great point. I'm glad to hear the T7 and T9s are holding up well for you. Finding the right tire combo for what and where you like to ride is so important. Thank you for the feedback and comment.

@sixty2612 10 месяцев назад

I did the same thing to the side knobs on a couple Specialized Eliminator tires on the rear. Happened well before the tread was actually worn and I’m not the only one. Doesn’t seem to happen with their XC treads though.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, I have been getting a lot of messages like this. I hope Specialized finds a fix for this issue going forward. Thanks for the feedback.

@splooshmtb 10 месяцев назад

With maxxis tires closing in on $100 each, this is am impressive price point, but yeah I'm pretty hard in the corners and those side knows would be toast. Great review Sage!

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Tire prices are insane! If you like the Maxxis I would check out the American Classic Basanites, they held up much better and are under $50. Thanks for watching and commenting Zane.

@christhrift6165 10 месяцев назад

Go with the T9 compound and butcher is better in the front not rear! Use the eliminator or purgatory on the rear! We tore 5 maxis tires at the shed and the specialized tires never had an issue

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

@@christhrift6165Great suggestion Chris. Thanks for the feedback.

@splooshmtb 10 месяцев назад

@christhrift6165 that's good Intel, however I run double down maxxis tires, never flatted one yet! But yeah they're super heavy too so I know it's overkill.

@christhrift6165 10 месяцев назад

@@splooshmtb unfortunately never been a fan of Maxis stuff. ever since my 4wheeler days. Dirt rooster is the ones' that put me onto the specialized tires as well as some friends that race the Shedduro

@scottg9229 2 месяца назад

I had the same happen to me at 300 miles with my Butcher. Specialized warrantied the tire and I got a new one. I got mine for $40 on sale and if the knobs shed at 300 miles I can go through two specialized tires for the price of one maxxis

@TrailSage 2 месяца назад

Ugh sorry to hear that Scott. And yes, excellent point! At that price just buy one good tire and be done with it, lol. Side note, I have had great success with the tires from American Classic. They are under the $50 price point and work just as well as the big tire brands.

@PhillyMTB 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great review Sage. Disappointed to hear about your experience with the side lugs as I was hoping the T7 casing would be the perfect blend of cost, grip and durability. I just threw on my Basonite Enduro that I bought after your review and unfortunately it has a pretty bad wobble right out of the gate, which seems to be not uncommon based on the Amazon reviews. I guess there's a reason these tires are at a lower price point. I'm really hoping to find that mystical unicorn tire so I can avoid paying Maxxis $100 a pop for tires that can potentially last a handful of rides if I encounter the wrong sharp rock lol

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I was pretty disappointed too. Someone else commented that the T9 held up better so you may want to try that option. Regarding the Basanites that is a total bummer, I'm so sorry Sam. I have the Trail version, not sure if the Enduro is different. LMK if you find that mystical unicorn tire.

@PhillyMTB 10 месяцев назад

@@TrailSage I have some friends that swear by the T9 Gravity Casing, but those aren't as cheap and I imagine are heavier than you want for a trail oriented rig...it's quite a conundrum. Maybe Delium tires will be the next one to try in the $50 range...I've heard some good things about those.

@seasonedsurfer23 10 месяцев назад

I was running a t7 but her front and t7 eliminator rear... ripped side lugs on both. I recently picked up a speccy status which comes with t9 buthers front and rear, and the t9 version seems to not have issues. I should also note, I ride in Tucson... my terrain likes to destroy tires

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback Jeremy. Good to know the T9 holds up better. Side note, I've done a few rides in Tucson and I'm jealous that you get to call those trails home.

@mybadvideos 9 месяцев назад

I had two of the Butcher T9 Grid Gravity 29 x 2.6 (current branding but maybe a batch from 2021/22) have splitting of the center knobs while still almost-new. At first I thought they were sipes opening up but the tread was actually cleaving apart. Shop gave me a 3rd for free after the first two did this to me within the first 4-5 rides but I'm concerned they may have batch to batch quality issues (?) I ended up getting a Vittoria Mazza instead which has performed well. The replacement Butcher is still sitting in a box until one of my other tires wears out. I like how inexpensive they are, but I wonder if the quality control isn't quite at the level of some of their competitors.

@TrailSage 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the feedback, I was wondering the same with the quality control. I've heard good things about the Mazza. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

@mxfreek09 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if they would be able to extend the life of these tires by doing what Schwalbe did with their Hans Dampf tire that had a similar issue. On the updated tire, they had reinforced the side knobs by adding more material that extended down a bit further towards the sidewall.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Interesting. But I would hate to see this tire get heavier. For me, I have made the switch back to the Basanites, but I will keep my eye open for other inexpensive tires. Thanks for the feedback.

@MikeMountainBikes 10 месяцев назад

Just had a side lug start to pull off the eliminator on the rear during a rowdy ride this past weekend. Gave me a flat because my sealant had run out.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Dang, sorry to hear that Mike. Thanks for leaving a comment. Sounds like Specialized has an issue with the compound

@MikeMountainBikes 10 месяцев назад

@@TrailSage yeah it does. Switching to a Schwalbe setup this winter. 🤞

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

@@MikeMountainBikesLMK how that works Mike. I switched back to the Basanites and I'm lov'n it.

@bendu88 10 месяцев назад

My rear Butcher 29x2.3 T7 also have a torn side knob only after a few rides. Ugh. Wanted to try Specialized again after years but won't go back.

@TrailSage 10 месяцев назад

Ugh that's a bummer to hear. Sounds like a lot of folks have experienced this same issue.

@jimjigga 8 месяцев назад

I bought a used dh and it came with a fresh pair of butcher black diamond. Is this the same tire? Also, i can't see if there's an indication of T7 or T9 compound.

@TrailSage 8 месяцев назад

Hey Jim, I don't know enough about Specialize's lineup of MTB tires to know for sure, but it does not sound like the same tire. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

@jimjigga 7 месяцев назад

@@TrailSage looks like the same exact knob pattern, thanks for the heads up! I'll be using the rear only, it's brand new anyway. changing my front to assegai

@TrailSage 7 месяцев назад

@@jimjiggaI have heard great things about the Assegai. Good stuff Jim.

@trentvlak 9 месяцев назад

Wow, big S been making tires for 30 years but still can't figure out how to keep lugs on their tires.

@TrailSage 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, I was hoping for a better outcome, maybe it was just a bad batch. Thanks for watching and commenting Trent

@trentvlak 9 месяцев назад

@@TrailSage Just as an idea, maybe you can do a video on their "block in block" tread design and explain to us what that is supposed to do. It is unique. And the price is right.

@TrailSage 9 месяцев назад

@@trentvlakThat sounds like a cool idea but unfortunately funds are super tight right now. Sorry Trent