Speech Practice (Hatsune Miku V4X & V2 comparison)

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This is a brief comparison between Hatsune Miku's original Vocaloid2 voicebank and her V4X Original voicebank. These are the only two voicebanks I can really compare right now, since I don't have her V2 Appends, nor V3 for that matter.
They definitely sound pretty close to eachother, but not exactly 100%. With the additional use of triphones and fixed vowel transitions that V4X has, you can definitely tell it's a lot smoother by comparison. And while the overall improvements are nice n' all, I will always love her V2 voicebank more.
IDK, I guess that kinda rough, slightly robotic sound of her's just stuck with me a lot throughout my time spent listening to Vocaloid.
Besides, none of these popular songs would even exist had Miku (or Rin, Len, and Luka for that matter!) never been released on V2.
Okay, I think I'm getting way to ahead of myself...I srsly need to chill out.
The VSQ used here is by Koya Matsuo.
blogs.itmedia.co.jp/closebox/...
V2 illust by KEI
V4X illust by iXima

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@stylixeria5109 4 года назад

the comments: 50% v4x 50% v2 100% Miku

@darja.volodko 4 года назад

No shit

@toast892 4 года назад

Kagamine Len and Rin Now it's no longer 100% [REDACTED] >:)))

@CynningSeline 4 года назад

@@toast892 :0 Are they and Piko still finding Peke's voice?!

@toast892 4 года назад

@@CynningSeline yeah I think they're almost got it

@CynningSeline 4 года назад

@@toast892 Hopefully because Peke's adorable

@blazi64 5 лет назад

I think V4x is clearer and V2 is cuter. I prefer V2 because I've grown with V2 Miku and I feel robotic Miku is best Miku.

@Korogunso8 5 лет назад

Both Miku’s are good it just depends on the song.

@alexthejapanfan7905 4 года назад

And all of them and specialty V4X As of right now Can BE and Is The Best Version Of Miku's Voicebank Ever! Even In the right Hands! :) :D

@jermfanaccount 4 года назад

i love v2 miku. i grew up with her and i just love her voicebox and design.

@alexthejapanfan7905 4 года назад

@@jermfanaccount nostalgia, something that you should probably put aside if you really want to give something a fair shot.

@inotfunny8506 4 года назад

@@alexthejapanfan7905 I don't really have nostalgia for it my self. I became part of the fandom this year but looking back I actually kinda prefer the original sound

@alpacab 5 лет назад

Idk... Something about V2 really packs a punch and feels like home to me. V4 sounds really realistic and sometimes it's better to have robotic sounds.

@JRacc97 5 лет назад

Agreed. It’s nice to see Vocaloid taking a more realistic approach in recent years, but it feel pretty jarring at the same time. Just sorta feels like almost every producer these days are trying to copy Mitchie M or something, and it’s kinda already gone beyond that point since V4. Sometimes I think the overall “robotic” nature of the Cryptonloids’ V1 and V2 voicebanks suit their style a lot better. Would be nice if most Vocaloid editors came with an option to turn off triphones to make them sound closer to V2-era voicebanks.

@MattCatto 5 лет назад

JimimsWeeb, me too!

@meiko5027 4 года назад

Gray Jasons WAIT WHATT?

@inotfunny8506 4 года назад

@@JRacc97 well it seems to be taking a more robotic aprouch with NT

@vforflower4339 Год назад

Why I got v2 instead of v4 tbh, I just like the voice more

@kaca616 5 лет назад

I love how I can slightly hear her vocal fry everytime she spell the "I" letter

@boxofswords 4 года назад

vocal fry? :O

@jessicadlabura1079 4 года назад

when ?

@pennenoodles 4 года назад

@@jessicadlabura1079 1:08-1:09 with headphones you can hear it a little (also nice pfp 😎)

@Snowyoaks2 4 года назад

Penne Noodles you can hear it without headphones too

@kaca616 4 года назад

@@jessicadlabura1079 I think almost all Miku v2 songs, when she spell the "I"

@dezzydream 4 года назад

you know, people say miku has a super high voice, but i don't think it sounds that high. i guess maybe because i've heard it constantly for so many years, but she's nothing compared to una or rana.

@MavissuLeon 4 года назад

More like a lot of people tend to use miku in a higher register than she was intended

@taigatanfan_ 4 года назад

LeonArt yes! There you said it. She doesn’t even have that high voice in comparison to even Rin. So I genuinely don’t get why people tend to only use her at the higher registers.

@ngjunhaoalanng2120 4 года назад

Exactly,Miku can be high and low in voice range,though lower range do sound awkward unless it is append. Rin can beat Miku in terms of how high their voice can reach. Even Prima can be tied with or beat Miku in reaching higher notes.

@octivian 4 года назад

--kokone has entered the chat--

@dezzydream 4 года назад

@@octivian when people use kokone's falsetto properly she sounds GORGEOUS

@achannelh6101 5 лет назад

Kinda wish they’d port miku v2 into some kind of native voicebank, her tone in v4x is slightly off and i feel miku v2 has the iconic miku voice just a tad more

@hectordanielhernandezmaldo 4 года назад

I think that with tuning it doesn't really matters, but I haven't buy any vocaloid yet so I don't really know.

@achannelh6101 4 года назад

Danieru Mega tuning is more of a layer onto the original voicebank underneath, so it does matter even if really well tuned. That’s why rin and len sound a bit different compared to now, because their v4 packages don’t come with a recreation of their vocaloid 2 main voices (instead they use v2 append power as a substitute) unlike miku v4x.

@Lemieux_channel 4 года назад

Good news! They are trying to replicate the sound of V2 with a new version called Miku NT. However, it ended up sounding a bit too childish (at least in the demo prototype version we have) and most people don’t like it🙁

@fawn5159 4 года назад

NT Miku sounds like V2

@achannelh6101 4 года назад

@@Lemieux_channel yeah i preordered her the day the news came out! her pronunciation is really similar to V2 and she has the same low end as miku V2 too, but she is sort of choppy and noisy to work with. with enough tuning you can get her to sound pretty good although the noise is still there. i personally don't think NT gets enough credit from people, but it's also got issues which should be dealt with, especially the engine noise.

@paradoxelle481 4 года назад

They sound the same, V4 just sounds like it's higher quality recordings. Which given it must have been years apart is remarkable.

@JRacc97 4 года назад

They've always used the same recordings for V2/V3/V4. They just cleaned up and enhanced the samples for V4 to make it sound a little more closer to V2 Miku's tone, due to some complaints about her V3 voicebank sounding nothing like her. To be honest though, I couldn't really tell much of a difference between V2 and V3, voice-wise. She's always sounded pretty much the same to me no matter what version of Vocaloid she's been updated for. V3 English, on the other hand, sounded absolutely nothing like her though.

@NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 года назад

I think V4 just doesn't have that nostalgic robotic sound to it

@anonymousg9153 3 года назад

@@JRacc97 the different engine probably helped in making her clearer, too

@toramitoramu 2 года назад

No it's not, Miku V4 has some new recorded samples from Saki's voices, that's cause there are many difference between Miku V2 and V4, i opened Miku's voicebanks database and i saw that Miku V2 has 3 pitches, Miku V3 has 4 and Miku V4 original vb has 5, so that's cause there are many differences between both voicebanks, as you can see, they have differences in some phonemes pronunciation, also the engine and samples configuration changed the clearness and smoothness of the v4 voicebank

@15_heidune72 2 года назад

@@toramitoramu how do you open them up?

@KazukiP 4 года назад

It seems like V2 miku had trouble with making clear consonants when it was just one isolated syllable. Also very breathy.

@emip.4299 4 года назад

I know Miku isn’t a real person but why does it feel like her confidence grew from V2 to V4, so proud of her 💖

@otomachirabbit.3. 3 года назад

You're right it does sound like it

@Thewaterspirit57 4 года назад

yeah v4x is much more clear, while V2 is more cute and robotic, and somewhat the pronunciations are different slightly

@israeldelacruzchanel 5 лет назад

"puto" "pito" miku WHAT tha heck!! D:

@sphynx01astrea40 5 лет назад

x"'DDD

@turquoise4636 5 лет назад

LOL 😂😂

@yoshydominguis7771 5 лет назад

Spanish comentario but also inglés, you sabes?

@biancasilva7851 3 года назад

Nooo miku es de latinoamerica noooo

@gastonnicolassilva7432 3 года назад

@@yoshydominguis7771 xD

@melodythewolfqueen3558 3 года назад

For those wondering, they're singing the Japanese alphabet. The alphabet is sectioned off in rows of different types of sounds. The first row is the "vowels", with a, e, u, e', o. And then rows of "consonants". Hard consonants, like those with hard C and K, sounds have a row, then consonants with the Sh sound, and so on.

@kuinni6654 4 года назад

I feel like the V4x is a softer tone while the V2 is "sharper", y'know?

@LyraPyxisVT 4 года назад

It's softer cause I think they are trying to go for a Human like voice

@NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 года назад

@@LyraPyxisVT it is human voice It's prerecorded

@LyraPyxisVT 3 года назад

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola ok

@MagicUnicrnYT 2 года назад

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola They mean to make miku sound more human...

@user-mg9xx1hg2i 2 года назад

IKR! V4 sounds sweeter, but I prefer the sharper thone. (it's my opinion)

@hayan4482 4 года назад

no one: my adhd: 0:50

@chiaisannoying 3 года назад

LMFAO RELATABLE

@retsuretsuko 3 года назад

Same

@makarmakarov000 4 месяца назад

@shad0w844 5 лет назад

I love V2 sooo much!! Listening to those old Miku songs that are like about a decade old makes me feel so nostalgic, even tho I just joined the fandom over three years ago xD

@dezzydream 4 года назад

I joined the fandom in 2011 and listening to old music literally makes me cry from the nostalgia. I can't believe some people still think music can't have an impact on someone's life.

@AngelRinKagamine 4 года назад

I joined the fandom 6 months ago already feel nostalgic 🙈

@vistystella 4 года назад

@@dezzydream Same I just love vocaloid so much

@thad8218 5 лет назад

V4 is a blessing

@xXPhantomHuskyXxGames 4 года назад

you guys seem to forget saki fujita isn't 22 anymore and is bound to sound different with age

@Sinc3r3ly 3 года назад

The voice recordings are exactly the same . They (Crypton , presumably) just made them sound higher quality

@fukases_hat3468 4 года назад

Too bad we don't do this to warm up in choir lol

@petitpois23 4 года назад

become a choir director and you can be the first!

@anthophiliia Год назад

That'd be so much fun

@Pluvillion 5 лет назад

Hearing V2 just makes me hear all of the iconic songs that were made with it within seconds. V4 is an improvement nonetheless.

@iheartmomosoo 4 года назад

I honestly like both. They both sound good in different ways

@nastysdsi 5 лет назад

Did you use the VOCALOID2 editor for her V2 voicebank or did you import it?

@JRacc97 5 лет назад

nastysdsi I used Vocaloid2 to render it because I couldn’t find the page to buy the import code when making this. Turns out it’s only available on the Japanese Sonicwire site and not the English one :P I did another comparison with V2 Miku rendered in V2 and V4, but I have yet to upload it. Still need to wait for my new PC to come in first

@nastysdsi 5 лет назад

@@JRacc97 You should also compare them with V2 in V5. Apparently, V2 in V5 fixes some pronunciation issues V2 in V3/V4 had, despite not being officially supported.

@elliot20201 4 года назад

@@nastysdsi Unfortunately afaik the file swapping to unofficially get V2s into V5 no longer works unless you're using Pocaloid. Which, if you already own the bank, go for it I suppose, but a lot of people will get pretty mad at you lol

@hellohi4820 5 лет назад

V2 is my life

@yurei8004 3 года назад

V2 is way cuter, I can't explain why, but it's like the angelic essence of Miku I fell in love with in 2009.

@GlassStatus 5 лет назад

Damn this slaps

@ngjunhaoalanng2120 4 года назад

Although the difference are pretty subtle,but this is what I can hear: V4x sounds sharper and clearer,while V2 sounds a bit softer,but still understandable due to software being less advanced in the past. V2 seems to hold the notes a bit in each syllable while V4x is able to cut it short without holding the notes too much. Finally,V4x sounds like an improvement while V2 is the usual Miku sound. Either way,I still like both of them since they are the same Miku after all.

@sourschilly1367 4 года назад

everyone: *talking abt which they prefer* me: *why does miku lose hair in each release*

@Leonlais 5 лет назад

0:27 Miku says: PUTO

@Leonlais 5 лет назад

0:54 and PENE

@xxjustanaveragehumanxx3779 4 года назад

Teeheehee

@ihavenocockandimustcream 4 года назад

I see your profile pic,, great taste

@polar2678 4 года назад

CUÁNTO ME TARDÉ ENCONTRANDO ESTO??? AJSJAJSJ

@Leonlais 4 года назад

poquísimo omedeto

@keisukesakamori 4 года назад

i feel like the v4x is miku becoming more humanlike rather than robot

@zana272888 4 года назад

It's is

@LyraPyxisVT 4 года назад

One day she gonna sound Human and people gonna be confused, rn I don't think her v4 is exactly human like but it's getting there

@ImNotEpix 4 года назад

Everyone: _talking about which one is better_ Me: *_wait these are different?_*

@blobaretired111 4 года назад

I love voice Miku V4 Because i love Miku outfit V2! V4 voice + outfit V2= Perfect Miku!

@choerryforever 3 года назад

yes

@KazukiP 4 года назад

I think v2 miku somehow sounded way more expressive at the “p” sounds

@noel_996 3 года назад

Miku v2 had that artificial style that sounded soft at times and unique. V4 smoothed out all that and made it sound more cutsie, squeaky like.

@jadebayoba7073 Год назад

I HATE HOW I LOOK AT V4X MODEL NORMALLY AND I LOOK AT V2 AS A MEME, ITS SO ICONIC AND ITS THE OG STYLE BUT ITS JUST SO MEMEY

@jadebayoba7073 Год назад

THE FACE, THE PONYTAILS, THE POSE

@jadebayoba7073 Год назад

Also R&C came with V2 so i hear Doriko in every sentence and im here for it

@localsimp7579 2 года назад

i mean i get the differences that each voice has, but what i want to focus on is MIKU'S MAJOR HAIR LOSS

@TempestVRoid 3 года назад

Miku: *is supposed to spell the Japanese alphabet* Miku: *SUDDENLY STARTS RAPPING*

@gabi.a 4 года назад

finally I can actually see the difference clearly, at 0:16 it's really clear that the new sound is smoother

@MewwNew 4 года назад

everyone gansta until they start speaking enchantment table

@people6117 2 года назад

Thats really xenophobic dude, and I hope you changed over the course of the year. Yikes. Those “jokes” arent okay.

@MewwNew 2 года назад

@@people6117 bruh wdym sob

@people6117 2 года назад

@@MewwNew ...Saying Japanese is “speaking enchantment table” is XENOPHOBIC dude.

@MewwNew 2 года назад

@@people6117 that wasnt what i was going for but okay

@daifukumochi3686 4 года назад

this brings comfort to my ears

@huhuhuhurricanestreamwow7937 4 года назад

V2 is so 2007 feels.

@patch141 4 года назад

Why is this super soothing to listen to? hahaha I could just keep replaying this over and over again.

@mikudayo_biggest_fan3939 2 года назад

it feels weird being the only vocaloid fan who has been here for three years :’D

@user-el5tn5mi7g 3 года назад

The beginning of V2's speech practice sounds like when that one kid with T-Mobile internet is glitching out during online school

@arumu_pnkn 9 месяцев назад

V4x=oh Miku upgrade with more realistic but still keep a bit robotic V2= h o m e

@SweetSoSweet 4 года назад

everyone prefers v2 and talks about v4 and i just sit in the corner with my favorite miku being v3 haha i love all the mikus though! ' v ' )/

@Clara-xx9wk 3 года назад

idk why this is so relaxing and calm it’s like asmr

@jasonthetoymaker5527 4 года назад

0:26 me dijo put0? OMG 88 LIKES WTF?!

@eatyourvegitablespt.262 4 года назад

LOL

@mlady95 4 года назад

ella lo dijo

@wuajaja5220 4 года назад

Dijo poto, miku te me caiste🤧

@valentinamf7363 4 года назад

Jajaja eso mismo había pensado

@TonChinKanKun 4 года назад

V2 sounds the most Miku if that makes sense. But I still love V4

@justayoutubeuser8652 3 года назад

the v4x is more natural than v2, they should have continued to the iconic v2 voicebank tone, but with more smooth word transitions

@lookadooka_ 3 года назад

Can i just say i love both

@Beth-td6vj 3 года назад

Awesome tuning!

@itimk0 4 года назад

Miku is the only one I have trouble understanding in a lot of songs, so the v4x is helpful for that, but I understand the “vintage” quality that everyone hears in v2.

@4rootpunch209 4 года назад

I like how they're called V2 and V4x, because it just saying they're different versions, not that one is better than the other. I think they both sound good!

@wintermaestra 4 года назад

I like the robottic voice a lot, glad im not the only way feeling that way, however i appreciate the technological advancements with 4 a lot

@warriorcatsofmysteryclan2240 4 года назад

Wow, V4 has made some real improvements!

@megp9id 3 года назад

I’m downloading V4X soon (or at least trying) so it’s nice to have a feel for the sound difference

@ZeroOhNine 4 года назад

She's so cute 😭💙

@yuchidoggu3734 3 года назад

they feel so innocent and cute! i luv it!

@raccoonchild 4 года назад

Every Miku is special to me, her voice just makes me emotional in general. I think the old Appends Soft and Dark are my favorites.

@idiot_guy_person420 2 года назад

To me, they sound the same. Except the V4x is more clearer and slightly less robotic, a little more cuter too. I like both of them in general, but I like the V4x a bit more.

@mizu9222 4 года назад

I don't know why but I unironically listen to this

@Alvaro-nl2dq 4 года назад

V2 Real voice V4 just a voice for the desing

@zana272888 4 года назад

If you listen closely you here how different the voices are!

@Alvaro-nl2dq 4 года назад

@@zana272888 Is just a bit different

@zana272888 4 года назад

@@Alvaro-nl2dq I know

@Alvaro-nl2dq 4 года назад

@@zana272888 Is weird how vocaloid2 trying to be more human than v3 or v4

@markcook_official 3 года назад

I like both

@wishis4173 Год назад

The intense balding of hatsune miku

@mifthakurniaputri287 4 года назад

Idk, but it feels refreshing 💜

@finndarling 2 года назад

i think both voicebanks are lovely but ooOUH the ART for the one on the right is so ,,, mmmmhhhh yyummy

@NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 года назад

I'm not really into all that vocaloid stuff, but V2 sure does remind me of those days I used to listen to some of Miku's songs

@kijeenki Год назад

old miku sounds like the sounds you would hear at a subway

@opalmoonofficial 3 года назад

best warm up i ever heard from miku!

@roleye 3 года назад

This video sounds pretty peaceful, actually

@fxlthyfool2815 4 года назад

two mikus, just singing together😳

@DA_BEAMERRRR 3 года назад

V2 miku will always be my favourite, the first vocaloid I've ever heard when I was a very kid, she always makes me happy :,)

@Nightsaberban 4 года назад

OwO I like them!

@zana272888 4 года назад

I love V2 but I'm gonna have to pick V4 on this one

@sirvalhart7464 4 года назад

i was waiting for their duet

@buranflakes 3 года назад

To me it sounds like V4x handles choppier stuff better while V2 has a certain something to it that really shines through on the more legato parts. Both sound good and are full of Miku charm though, and maybe I’m just biased from listening to VOCALOID2 Miku for so many years lol.

@ruikasasfixer 2 года назад

I love both V2 bc nostalgia Both bc with right tuning u can make them sound amazing V4 bc idk

@amber-ri7tm 4 года назад

I am the globglobgablala : 0:51

@jo-jojackson7402 5 лет назад

When The Full Version Drop? That Was Lovely Tbh 😂

@doggyspeak 3 года назад

So cute, love my robot girl, she’s come so far I’m so proud.

@Simone-mh4mj 3 года назад

I prefer the miku v2 because when sounding more robotic, She has the lower voice. It's not to complain about the v4 enhancement, I just like classic miku more... Even if I joined the fandom a year ago.

@phos5865 3 года назад

i love them both equally. i guess it just depends on the song

@izzythetrashposter5710 4 года назад

this is cute idk why

@polygawn 4 месяца назад

V3 Miku is the beautiful marriage of V2 and V4. The best miku

@aul2601 3 года назад

I like both version :)

@snailsofneon 4 года назад

0:50 made me immediately think of Black and White ward, thanks

@xlabratx5729 3 года назад

I prefer the V4x actually, sounds nice and smooth~

@Ciphernomics 4 года назад

i rather the v2 one because its nostalgic to me.. i listen to only old songs so i have what to talk about

@shinguuji_kai Месяц назад

Lyrics: V4x: [A, i, u, e, o~ Ka, ki, ku, ke, ko~ Sa ta, shi chi, su tsu, se de, soo to, naa, ni, nuu, ne, no~] V2: [A-, i-, u-, e-, o~ Ka-, ki-, ku-, ke-, ko~ Sa-ta, shi-chi, su-tsu, se-de, soo to-, naa, ni, nuu, ne, no~] Vx4: [Ha to, pi to! Pu to!! Pe to!! Po~ Ma no, mu no, mi no, ME no, Mo~! La u, li u, lu u, le u, lo~ Ka zu, ki zu, ku zu, ke zu, ko~] V2: [Ha- to-, pi- to- pu- to- pe- to- PO~ Ma- no-, mu- no-, mi- no-, ME- no-, Mo~! La u, li u, lu u, le u, lo~ Ka zu, ki zu, ku zu, ke zu, ko~] V4x: [TA BA, TA BA, TI BI, TI BI, TE BE TE BE, TO BO, TO BO, TO~ Pa n ya, pa n ya, pi n i, pi n i, pi yo, pi yo, PE N IE, PE N IE! Pi o~ I~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i... Koo e, da, ne~] V2: [-TABATABATIBITIBITEBETEBETObOtObO TO~ PA N YA PA N YA pI n I pI n I, PI YO, PI YO, pe n ie, pe n ie- PI O~ I~, I~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i... Koo e-, da-, ne~]

@0ranges0da14 4 года назад

I could fall asleep to this

@maimerveille Год назад

its like v2 has a stuffy nose and i love it

@RenDubs 4 года назад

I 💙 Miku V2.

@user-ic5zv8ph8s 3 года назад

やっぱ無印の発声大好きだ

@appleheaddefender 3 года назад

2 sounds like the old creepy nostalgia and 4 sounds like your short 2021 youtube videos

@lolzorgfykys 4 года назад

realistic v4 can be good for some songs but i think for the most part i prefer robotic v2. the robotic feel that her voice has and that many loids have, is what makes vocaloid so special to me.

@Lullaglim 6 месяцев назад

ooh she sounds less muffled :3

@ullululuuy Год назад

V2 has a solid voice🔥🔥

@toetotipthatsabart5048 4 года назад

V4x a bit cuter for me personally! She sounds like she’s really trying so hard, it’s adorable! But maybe cause I wasn’t a miku kid, I’m a miku adult, so I’m used to V4x instead of V2?

@MS-ij8ud 3 года назад

everyone who says V2 is better, only says that because it's nostalgic. Yeah I have fond memories of V2 too, and she's still cute, but her voice is JANK. It actually doesn't really sound good once you compare it to V4x. V4x sounds like miku, it's clear, it has emotion, it's a beautiful voicebank. And it is better. And don't get me wrong I love V2, it's classic miku, but V4x will always be better and favorable in my opinion.