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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

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@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ If you have ideas for future videos go ahead and comment them below you might just see them somewhere down the road. Thanks for watching, and I'll see you guys in the next one, much love.

@benwatso Год назад

Ight

@BenjaminDelong Год назад

roger

@rohangangan8327 Год назад

Please make a video on F18 Block 3 with Astra Missiles and pit it against Pakistani and Chinese fighters as Indian Navy is looking to buy F18s for its aircraft carrier with Indian Missiles.

@tarnlicht3657 Год назад

How many flight hour you have in DCS?

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR

@TheXcena Год назад

that shot of the felon behind you was absolutely terrifying!! The way it can just park up and point at you like it was nothing - full UFO mode

@redshirt5126 Год назад

Felon teleporting behind the F-16 be like: "Привет, товарищ!"

@louiethompson4108 Год назад

And then comes an F-22 😜

@Bvr223 Год назад

@@louiethompson4108 which is crashing to the ground no I’m joking I respect both aircraft

@clayblaze1327 Год назад

And then and actual ufo appears😂

@edwardking186 Год назад

You should have seen how fast the Felon whipped its nose around in the video where GS was flying the Eurofighter against it; the first kill was a gun kill and it happened after the merge. It was one of the coolest, fastest and craziest gun kills I’ve seen in DCS.

@SukhoyBoy4113 Год назад

That last kill was magnificent. You can see his rudders in full deflection and it's absolutely beautiful

@makepunk5791 Год назад

I think that final fight was the best dogfight I've ever seen. Unreal seeing that plane maneuver.

@alexanderbohm607 Год назад

Mad props to that felon pilot for that post cobra dive out. He was done if not for that

@Trailermaker615 Год назад

The guy that piloted the felon was called Toxic

@alexanderbohm607 Год назад

@@Trailermaker615 cool

@starvalkyrie Год назад

That top profile gun kill reminded me of a phrase a friend of mine used when backstabbing people in pvp mmos. "Don't think of it as a stabbing. Think of it as clumsy unnecessary surgery" Perhaps "Don't think of it as a gun kill. Think of it as clumsy unscheduled maintenance"

@benrichey2593 Год назад

I believe the term from the aerospace field is ‘rapid unscheduled disassembly’.

@starvalkyrie Год назад

@@benrichey2593 Oh I like that one.

@tejasviroyal8977 Год назад

11:55 was when the SU-57 went full UFO Mode while avoiding the same mistake again and then didn't look back, literally. Superb Video. 🙌

@tsepheletseka5115 Год назад

I must say, the Su-57 and the F-22 are both incredible fighters in the way they just seem to defy physics.

@cal7145 Год назад

Hats off to Toxic. He definitely did some of that pilot shit there, my word.

@ogzephyr4166 Год назад

I could not imagine being a pilot in a dogfight. Just seeing the Gs go up and down like that, having to maintain airspeed, breathing techniques, and keeping a visual at all times!

@EvelynAutumnMusic Год назад

🤮

@braedynhoward3644 Год назад

Yup. My dad is a fighter pilot. he trains the Air Force in dogfighting. He just surprise attacks them from below, kinda like in top gun maverick, and then climbs into the sun before they see him XD. He uses that tactic especially in an A4 Skyhawk since it's so old. But he's a very good dogfighter as well. He's fought f 22s and f 15s in the old Skyhawk. It's fascinating to hear about all this from an actual fighter pilot's perspective.

@mattt525 Год назад

@@braedynhoward3644 you sir are the luckiest SOB Ive seen here! Sounds like you and your Dad need a DCS channel and a couple of gaming rigs. What does your pops have to say about the Russian jets I'm sure hes had the opportunity to see the older ones in use. Obviously not the Felon. And again you sir are lucky to get to hear those stories!

@Warrior_AP Год назад

They train a life for some reason

@Somew1n Год назад

@@EvelynAutumnMusic ?

@saadsajidul9001 Год назад

In the last fight the Felon is literally playing chess, man stood there like it's a checkmate.

@bachhunghoang Год назад

The Su 75 codename is checkmate tho lmao

@saadsajidul9001 Год назад

@@bachhunghoang oh yes I remember lmao

@Ripa-Moramee Год назад

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

@hcolt360 Год назад

1:33 The best part of this video was when Toxic said "IT'S VECTORIN' TIME" and vectored all over Growling Sidewinder

@t3hjnz Год назад

"I was just sitting there admiring his, uh, nose authority" made me laugh pretty hard. This was a great video, fantastic flying by both of you!

@icaleinns6233 Год назад

Loved the part about admiring the nose authority...as he's about to remove the rest of the aircraft. 😂

@HerbieNO Год назад

"So, I was just sitting here, admiring your nose authority" -Greatest pick-up line ever

@PETURK Год назад

...or greatest "last words" :-D

@Tassadar187 Год назад

Third engagement was truly miraculous, more Felon please!

@benwatso Год назад

I love the viper. Its a 4th gen fighter from the 70s and can still take on advanced super-maneuverable fighter such as the F-22 or Su-57. Just wish it didnt cost me $80…

@tinchorb1340 Год назад

The SU-57 at best is a 4th gen/4.5 gen fighter

@doniii4038 Год назад

@@tinchorb1340 it’s 5th gen 🤦‍♂️

@vp-sv7ff Год назад

@@tinchorb1340 💀bro said that with a straight face

@IAmNotBob. Год назад

@@doniii4038 its 4.5th gen cause almost no stealth

@retardmoguss Год назад

@@IAmNotBob. it has more stealth than any 4th/4.5th gen aircraft in service, especially with both jets armed and fueled up. So it is 5th gen, even if less stealthy than a raptor.

@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 Год назад

I love the screaming sound of the felon coming in after the first kill that thing sounds so wild

@alexion2001 Год назад

I'd like a 1970s Fox-2 dogfight if possible, GS! Amazing video as usual!

@yehia4638 Год назад

Thats a very interesting idea

@dioad1739 Год назад

I’m glad to see your channel grow but I think it sure took everyone a while to find us but I’m glad they’re here to see your knowledge on DCS and to help a lot of people out, thanks for all the great flying with different aircraft and sharing all their different characteristics GS.

@Stinger522 Год назад

Two lessons from this video. 1. Never ever ever let a Felon get on your six. It will kill you. 2. Never ever ever let a Felon get close to your six. The closer the Felon is, the easier it is for him to kill you. Great fight, Growling.

@fruitygranulizer540 Год назад

@reAction yes, but its usually not this difficult to get into a rolling scissors or nose counter and try to get the other plane to overshoot, especially if they were doing rate-fight speeds. most planes cannot sit behind a plane doing < 120 knots and still be able to point their nose like that

@ignacio3890 Год назад

3. Don't let a felón be near of you

@hackxy1165 Год назад

I’d love to see some same plane fights. Maybe like an f 22 vs f22 and find a pilot around your skill level would be very cool

@danny_boi3537 Год назад

I would be shocked if the f-22 won

@MegaEvoluzione Год назад

There ain't none.

@idekanymore3954 Год назад

I got into Dcs 2 months ago and ur vids have helped me so much 🙏

@adamlannerd1408 Год назад

Glad to see Toxic back again. A worthy adversary indeed.

@Gunni1972 Год назад

Well, to be fair, he overcooked that first Cobra, massively. And that got him.

@oblied Год назад

@@Gunni1972 second one*

@coreyp9211 Год назад

I would love to see a high off boresight fox-2 fight between a Viper and a Hornet.

@krap101 Год назад

Doesn't Viper just win?

@coreyp9211 Год назад

@@krap101 Not necessarily. The Viper is king of the 2 circle which is good for guns only, but the Hornet is a 1 circle beast. With fox-2s like the AIM-9X you need to be able to make tight turns to jam the opponent’s WEZ, so the Hornet’s ability to point its nose at the Viper might give it the upper hand.

@oldfashionedwrx3574 Год назад

hornet is crazy in fox2 fight, it just points its nose with the high bore 9x

@AshBhang2010 Год назад

Your knowledge of not only your Aircraft but also your oppositions is Amazing. . Paired with your Flying ability . . Boom ! ! Really enjoying everyone of your shows. . Thankyou . . from Australia ! !

@faqirmohammadabdullah2906 Год назад

Damn the F-16 is just awesome in gunfights. Forever fan of this magnificent machine.

@robhildebrand9914 Год назад

F16 + growling sidewinder = guaranteed dearth sentence Love the videos

@andrewrogers3067 Год назад

Not against some planes

@reaganr652 Год назад

@@7Amps literally no one asked dude

@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta Год назад

It's like fighting a gun turret... no matter how quick you run around it, the guns are always pointing at you...

@panzerivscope1173 Год назад

The best dogfight vid so far! Amazing skills on both of you!

@Tremeslay Год назад

Bro that plane is something else. I don't have as good knowledge about aircraft as you but that thing is like a free floating paper. It is crazy.

@okyadriansyah Год назад

Great show, absolutely one of the best video, thanks for GS and Toxic to show great skill, salute for both of you

@DestinationXperience Год назад

Fantastic scenario like right out of a Tom Clancy novel! Would love to see a version with J-20's attacking the base, or over the Taiwan straits vs F35's and F-18's.

@ryz_vik Год назад

“You’ve gotta move faster than that, son, speed is life.”

@firexwow Месяц назад

13:13 he was like "will you eject so the video doesn't end with a black screen or can I kill your pilot?" lol

@giantnanomachine Год назад

13:08 welp, I hope that part wasn't one of the important ones :D

@Zog26 Год назад

"I was just sitting there, admiring his nose authority." Not a sentence you hear most days :-)

@jeffreykimes4805 Год назад

Lifelong fan of the F16, Fighting Falcon from the days of yore. Been a fan of the Felon since it's inception. One of the coolest names and looking planes there is. I was rooting for both. Awesome video.

@smilingxassassin Год назад

That's a floating alien aircraft !!! Mad Skill on wacking the FELON in a rate fight !!!!

@jero4059 Год назад

I loved how the Felon played around with its pray like a cat or ninja. F-16 is definitely the past perfect generation plane

@Anarchy_420 Год назад

Please fly The Rafale against The Typhoon! Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider Mosquito VS Pucara F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K J-10 VS SU-27 J-7 VS MIG-21 Please fly Planes on the left!🙏

@allenbt11 Год назад

Clever tactic there at the end trying to hit him in the face with your canopy.

@edwardfletcher7790 Год назад

That's some amazing flying by you both . That last fight was terrifying 👍😁

@davidcannon3070 Год назад

Not sure about the felon, but the f22 has a sustained turn rate of 28 degrees per second, in comparison the f16 has 23. Not sure how accurate the 22 is in the rate fight(in DCS), but I would expect something similar for the felon.

@Turk3YbAstEr Год назад

28 degrees/second? god damn, that is insane.

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

I would imagine those numbers are actually pretty classified mate. Both in the f22 and the su57. I’ve heard real pilots say the f22 and the f16 are similar ish but wouldn’t say which was superior. My point being…the exact rate speeds are deff unknown. You can’t even find a real EM diagram on the internet for the f18 Hornet so I doubt any real numbers for the f22 or su57 exist. But you’re right in assuming they probably rate very well.

@fruitygranulizer540 Год назад

no doubt that the su57 and f22 are probably capable dogfighters, but those numbers are entirely guesses. the real capabilities are classified. we do know that the f16 was built to be a rate fighter, whereas the 5th gen boys are not. i'd say that theyre similar enough that it probably comes down to the pilot and other factors in the dogfight rather than the rating capabilities.

@Paul_Sergeyev Год назад

Attempt 18! Excellent, very dynamic and interesting video! Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm, 6 x 50 cal., 23 mm MiG-21 and 30 mm MiG-29 long strafes would look and sound on target! Also, could you please bring out *the flying lol machine I-16 against the F-22?*

@stuartholden2772 Год назад

Considering this Dogfight took forever, you know the Su-57 and a F16 are a good match up.

@derliebej7675 Год назад

Hey GS, an idea for a new combat format: instead of doing bandit unknown, do a loadout unknown. You and the bandit each have a total of 4 fox3s and 6 fox2s for 5 rounds. Neither of you knows, what the other guy brings to battle. Should be a lot of fun.

@Justapilot_9700 Год назад

So the Felon must feel like an F18 on steroids! very cool beast

@midnightrider1100 Год назад

Or an F22 on downers.

@_Peperek Год назад

I love how the Felon says "Felon time" and starts falling all over the place

@Iamnothappy510 Год назад

This is about to be a reality

@georgew.5639 Год назад

I’d definitely want to be in an F 22 when facing off against a felon in a guns only dogfight.

@razorsoft Год назад

Spectacular trip) Yes, there are ten SU-57s now. A few days ago, the upgraded version completed test flights. Another engine, updated weapons, intelligent pilot assistance systems, etc. By 2028, 76 such aircraft are planned to be delivered to the army. If nothing changes.

@tsorevitch2409 Год назад

As far as I'm aware engines are still old, and most updates are in electronics

@avramnovorra Год назад

A hell of a fight once more! Im always pumped for a new GS video

@danny_boi3537 Год назад

The "chaff" and "flares" callouts sound like a minecraft villager

@danpatterson8009 Год назад

While you were admiring his nose authority presumably you also saw that chunk of your wing floating away.

@TurboHappyCar Год назад

But the Viper was still flying, lol

@airlightshockZOV Год назад

I was at the military parade last year and they flew 10 of them over in formation and I think they have like 14 fighters +2 experimentally I think

@tsorevitch2409 Год назад

There were 8 flying prototypes but some of the rumored to be updated to production level. One of first production batch cradhed in test flight

@fruitygranulizer540 Год назад

13:08 that much nose authority at nearly 100 knots is just scary. there's no other word for it, its terrifying.

@snowpdx Год назад

"I'm just sitting here admiring your nose authority" - how to pick up Felons

@pavlukevichmm Год назад

We've just tested su-57m with some modernized weapons subsustem, couple days ago

@connie.shearer5210 Год назад

You certainly prove the importance of being able to judge energy management, your and your bandit's.

@RaGeRC Год назад

I was rooting so hard for that F16! I was like come on GS do some of that pilot shit!!

@tkelker Год назад

You need to split the throttle on that F16

@idiedoof4339 Год назад

High iq joke here

@blacktail522 Год назад

Guns only fights are a great way to determine which airframe is best. No extra weapons doing the job for them. Could watch a whole series of these fights...

@slurpeexyza17 Год назад

That cobra into nose-dive is amazing

@alexpaul1665 Год назад

Very good fight, I think at third round you made critical mistake, otherwise you could win, after the overshot, you may get away by going to rate fight again instead of once circling slow su-57, please do f-22 vs su-57 guns only fight, that would be interesting!!

@fruitygranulizer540 Год назад

i think trying to one-circle the slow su-57 was just impatience, or maybe he misjudged. also a 5th gen guns only fight would be interesting since both planes are not built for gunfighting, and it would be cool to see which one can do it better

@sergeantliangplays Год назад

"Gotta move faster then that son, *speed is life!* " Ironic how the person who said it is called Viper.

@kidusabebe6634 Год назад

Could you do more su 30 videos please…love your videos

@shannonspear8751 Год назад

Watching the slow Felon on the deck then a Jet flashes across the screen outta nowhere ???? I was Gazing intensely at its Shadow 🤦🏻‍♂️

@setahr Год назад

That was EPIC! It had me on the edge... Thanks so much for the vid!

@Asofe17 Год назад

Wow as everyone stated that last fight was insane... it felt like i am watching some kind of movie. great job guys.

3 месяца назад

11:46 Hoorah !

@Fra-gee-lay Год назад

I’ve come to understand 1 vs 2 circle as 1 circle is a big cat chase while 2 circle is more human vs prey. Big bombastic moves that may or may not pay off vs slowly walking out of the brush for the third time as the prey is huffing for breath.

@ed4415 Год назад

By turning before passing you are telegraphing your gameplan to an aircraft that can turn inside you 1 circle allowing him to set the tone of the fight.

@krystianziolkowski3609 Год назад

'Extremely defensive' is definitely one way of putting it XD

@AeroLowdown Год назад

The wing loading of that felon must be soo low, it looks like it was floating in the last fight

@crsv7armhl Год назад

Would love to see a P-51 vs Corsair fight

@klssn34 Год назад

He stopped by to ask about your vodkas extended warranty

@redtailpilot Год назад

Lose sight, lose the fight. Which happens to me all too often. 😂 Which brings me to my question. What do you find better when in a dogfight, VR or TrackIR? I'm currently using VR only (Aero). I'm also playing single player only, with my limited time. Hopefully I'll venture into MP soon. Love your content!

@grndiesel Год назад

That was quite the flip-flop there. But it worked.

@oscarzheng9902 Год назад

you definatly want to be fast in the f16 against the su57, in the last round gs was too slow to use the cobra to his advantage

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

correct

@MARSRigel1 Год назад

F-22 vs Eurofighter: The Raptor has a field day totally wrecking the EF in each round. Felon vs F-16: F-16 being actually decent and can even win a round. A fighter from the what, 70s? Still gets it better done than the "4.5 gen" EF (at least in DCS).

@bachhunghoang Год назад

Have u seen GS's F16 vs F22 video? GS won 2 out 4, i don't think EF even close to F16

@MARSRigel1 Год назад

@@bachhunghoang This makes it even worse for the EF. Thx for telling me.

@heatblast876 Год назад

Hey you didn't see that F16 is able to shot down an F22 in dogfight. There is an video of Growling sidewinder see on it

@fruitygranulizer540 Год назад

its important to note that the 5th gen planes are not built at ALL for gunfights. if i recall correctly, they were about to not even fit guns onto the f22 at first. these planes are built entirely for the one circle fox-2 fight and for stealth in bvr. the f-16 on the other hand was built literally for only one purpose, and that was the 2-circle / rate fight / gun fight. that being said, the f-16 is still amazingly capable for how old of a design it is, and its rating capabilities are just as impressive as the 5th-gen fighter's aoa capabilities imo.

@Rose.Of.Hizaki Год назад

This video made me go back to watch your SU-57 vs F-22 video!

@3v4761 Год назад

Do an Iron Eagle...F16 vs Mig 23 (f21 kfir)....still one my all time favorites

@mz7688 Год назад

GS: "I was just sitting there admiring his nose authority" 👃

@snapperface12345 Год назад

While another great video GS, let's be real here, no one knows what the Su57 can actually do in a dog fight, other then speculation and people seeing a Belle cobra maneuver at an air show. The 3 that are "identified" and two that have been reported to be operational have no real world encounter with any other aircraft to Guage it's abilities.

@kalelalves Год назад

I love seeing the viper in action.

@lith0s094 Год назад

In the third fight felon was like,” u almost got me there” and then stops in the air like a helicopter. That shit is insane. I wonder why those pilots in top gun movie didn’t do it when maverick pulled a cobra in front of him?

@zakiakbarrasdi9351 Год назад

I do not come for who's got better plane, but understanding GS strategy and tactics is worth everything

@rasoulbhador6946 Год назад

The person flying the SU-57 does not have enough skill to deal with the great potential of the su-57

@MegaEvoluzione Год назад

If the Raptor is the Batman of fighter jets, the Felon is definitely Dracula

@souvikdey6648 Год назад

Russia really made an God daam jet Last kill was magnificent..

@shahbazkhan-ri3rn Год назад

The felon looked like its parking in the air 🤣

@nj1255 Год назад

The F-14 has been my favorite fighter jet forever, but I think the F-16 has taken over that spot lately. The more I learn about it, the more I like it. It's just a genius design!

@HermitagePrepper Год назад

F16 with even a modest thrust vector ability would be able to turn its nose up its own tail pipe!

@hero_knightusp7416 Год назад

What? Two-circle fights are the most enjoyable for me. It's easy to just pull hard from side to side in one circle.

@jameskester7745 Год назад

I guess we know that it's suicide trying to get a 5th gen to overshoot when in a 4th gen

@myplane150 Год назад

Here's how I see it; one circle fights are like football with all of the maneuvering and sky gymnastics whereas 2 circle is more like baseball and includes managing and strategy so is much slower paced. My fave sport is baseball so I love 2 circle fights but most people prefer football and more action therefore it makes sense that one circle is favored by them...☺.