Greetings! I carried a revolver (S&W model 10) for years as an LEO and my agency issued the Safariland Comp II's. I have used the HKS as well both on duty and in competition but always did find the Safariland easier to use and faster. I still am a "revolver guy" but I haven't been able to carry a revolver since 1999 on duty. All auto pistols now. Thanks for doing this video. Good to see a revolver getting used and used quite well I might add! Stay safe!
I just got rid of my two 45 ACP's and bought two Ruger revolvers. Revolvers have no safety, always ready to fire - and an auto-loader jam can get you killed.
Everyone on here is a critic and armchair gunslinger. Thank you sir for showing those of us who don’t know everything. Because of you, I will likely be getting the safariland. Your informative video and hard work is appreciated. Please keep it up.
Thanks for your review - easy to understand, especially with the care you took to get a good camera angle. I have a S&W 681 for casual shooting but of course a reload could be handy. You have sold me on the Safariland, they are $9 at Midway.
Thanks for this video. I bought a speedloader holster on ebay that came with one of each. I couldn't get the Safariland one to work because I wasusin it wrong. Now it works like a charm!
Just bought a Safariland Speedloader for my Model 66. My local gun shop recommended it over the HKS. Looks like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the very helpful video.
These Safariland loaders are killer! Saw this video and ordered a couple off of Amazon for my Redhawk 7.5". TONS BETTER than my HKS! Thanks Brother, great video.
Your technique is the way to do it. My left hand and arm has very limited mobility so I have to do what I do. However, for anyone with two normal hands, your suggestion is preferred. Thanks for sharing that with folks!
There is an additional significant advantage I have found to the Safariland loader as well, over the HKS. The Safariland loaders are MUCH more SECURE as far as carrying loose in either a pocket or purse or fanny pack, etc. Why? I have found the HKS loaders to prematurely eject the rounds, causing them to all fall out because it's quite easy to nudge or bump the knob on the HKS loader. The Safariland model however, because of it's design where you actually push on the body has a trigger system that is not exposed at all. It's hidden way up underneath on the loader itself and is surrounded by the actual rounds it is carrying. So while the Safarilands can cost a little more, there is no comparison in design or quality as far as I'm concerned. The only reason I haven't thrown away my HKS, is because I'm a bit of a hoarder. But they are junk compared to the Safarilands which are not only much faster, better built, and as I say are MUCH more secure. They do NOT prematurely unload and only release when you deliberately intend them to.
Just like spare mags you shouldn’t be carrying a speed loader “ loose” they make those pouches for it and in those cases the HKS is superior cause the high knob makes it easier to pull from the pouch.
The HKS works well if once you twist to release, just let go of it completely. If the revolver is facing straight down, the rounds drop in and when you close the cylinder the speedloader drops away. I don't have the safariland to compare with and the safariland might be better, but with a little technique practice the hks is pretty darn fast.
You speak truth. I’ve had 4 hks’s for a week and after a little practice I learned that if you have the revolver facing down vertically they drop right in. I don’t know why all these grown men are having such a hard time simply twisting and releasing. But yes. They work excellently and they are very affordable. I’m buying more.
Thanks for the video, was looking at speed loaders on amazon for my truck revolver. looked at the hks and saw the safariland just today and will defiantly go with safariland, Thanks a bunch!
Great job on your video! Which, in fact, has encouraged me to purchase a speed loader or two and practice at the range. Have not considered the Safariland up until this point.
Very nice review with excellent real world testing with pros and cons. I've been looking for a couple of speed loaders for my S&W M36. I think I'll look for the Safariland.
This is a very useful video for me to see. I have ordered two of the Safariland and two of the HKS for my GP100 of the proper models and I will try both and see how it goes. It is good to have options.
+tiggerr42431 which did you end up liking better? I have the HKS (the correct model:586) and think they are really fast. Were the Safariland ones much better?
Both are worth the money. I use the HKS more just because I have the belt carrier used more in the field. The other one I use at the range more for speed.
very cool I was looking for a video to the Safariland push button loader and I see that you're disabled firearm owner therefore I'm subscribing I'm going to recommend your video to a few other my subscribers we disabled functional gun owners gotta stick together I love my Smith and Wesson 686 it's an original from 1991 before they messed up the tooling in the millennium decade
It is very nice to see that somebody finally made a speedloader that doesn't require you to awkwardly turn a tight, teensy knob-- on top of a cylinder that _also_ spins. Completely counter-intuitive. _Never_ liked the HKS speedloaders. Got a couple of used COMP 1's today and dang, unless these break I'm not going back.
Sorry, still getting used to the new RU-vid app. Ditto what akin said below regarding the #586 HKS Speedloaders as I use them in my 686 and no wiggle is needed. I use the 10A in my 66 and model10 without issues. Great video and I am a NH native who now lives in PA, hence the name!! Great video!
Ok, I bought me 2 of the Safariland comp 2. I really like them, as far as putting in the bullets. I just put the bullets in, put my left hand over the bullets. Then I bring my left hand around where the bullets face down and push the knob down and turn the knob to right to lock the in. Done, easy to do. Love them.
I've used Safariland Comp speed loaders since the 80s. I've tried HKS loaders for my K and J frame revolvers and always go back to Safariland for the same reasons.
Thanks for sharing the reload technique. I've never seen it before, but I'm trying it out. Does it have a name? Did you develop it, it learn it from somebody? I'm practicing and taking notes on the pros and cons compared to the FBI, FLETC, StressFire, and weak hand competition reload. Will share when ready.
Very nice shooting for not practicing much! I like the Safariland but I wonder if it will work with my 642 J frame or if there will be issues clearing the stock grips. I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming... How about more classic pistol firearms - 1911, Luger, Hi Power, CZ, Colt, S&W, lever gun combo's.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I own several revolvers. While not my primary sidearm, I do enjoy and appreciate them. I also believe in working different types of pistols and revolvers to have basic proficiency with them.
Loved this review and your candid comments and williness to move on from what you are more familiar (HKS) to what simply works better (Safariland). You enthusiastic "...freaking awesome!" made me smile. Thanks! Ben
To reduce or even eliminate that sticking shells in the knob type speedloader, lightly oil the rim of the ammo or periodically scrub with metal polish. They slide effortlessly.
Thank you for the tip. I think that would apply for most situations specifically at the range. However, many people carry their speed loader in a pocket. This means that lightly oiled rim is likely to collect lint and dust particles. That being said, I’m going to give your suggestion a try when I go to the range this weekend. It’s been a bit since I’ve shot my revolvers and I simply love shooting them! Thanks for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing and sharing the channel with friends and family.
If you can ever find them, you should also try the SL Variant speedloaders. Similar to Safarilands, but they are spring loaded so rounds shoot straight into the cylinder instead of having to rely on gravity to drop rounds.
It’s not hard to use just requires training for the memory. However unlike Vash’s gun which opens like the old school schofield revolvers with a top break most modern revolvers run a side drop cylinder. Now if someone could figure out how to make a modern top break revolver that could take .357 it would eliminate the need for a lefty to train extra hard like I do
I USE BOTH KINDS AND THE HKS SEEMS TO BE THE BETTER ONE,I'VE HAD TO SPRAY THE OTHER WITH SYNTHETIC LUBE TO MAKE SMOOTHER ACTION OF THE RELELEASE OF DROPING THE BULLETS
I have a 686 and the proper HKS loaders. If you transfer left to right from a 2 handed grip, release the cylinder with the right thump, open with the left fingers and grab the reloader by the release knob (not the speedloader cylinder) by the right hand, close the 686 cylinder with the left thumb, and transfer to a 2 handed left grip it would go faster. As for the speedloaders themselves, the HKS will never release prematurely in a pressure combat situation as you can't turn the knob unless the rounds are partially in the cylinder. I've seen the Safariland style pressed prior to insertion by novices.
Safariland all day over any other loader. I have had 2 fail over the years (many years) but the failure involves them failing to even grab the rounds and lock in place. These were high mileage loaders though. Never had a failure of a loaded loader or an accidental dump as I’ve had with others.
Nice video! Just picked up a few Safarland loaders. Can you provide information on your ear protection and camera mounting? Very interested in getting this setup. Thank you in advance!
It would help if you had the correct sized HKS speed loaders for you 686 which takes the 586-A model loaders. The 10-A loaders are for K-frames like the Model 10, 15, 19 etc. The 586-A loaders are for L-frames the the 686.
@@roteroktober360 because there are different sizes of revolvers… There are small frame .357 revolvers, medium frame .357 revolvers, Large frame .357 revolvers and even Extra large .357 revolvers. There are 5 shot revolvers, 6 shot revolvers, 7 shot revolvers, 8, 9 and 10 shot revolvers. There are .32 calibre revolvers, 9mm revolvers, .38 longs, shorts, specials, .44s, .45s, .500s and so on… Point is, there are a lot of different sizes and calibers of revolvers.
Maybe this has been asked before but, would you burn your fingers after firing 6 rounds of 357 if sticking them in the open cylinder area as you do in the video? BTW, love that older Smith without the built in self locking mechanism.
If you are shooting black powder, sure, your gun will heat up fast. But with modern propellants, at only 5-8 shots at a time, it won’t not get so hot as to become untouchable.
I got a Safariland j-k2c comp 2 for my Rossi 462 and it didn't fit the gun at all. The bullets didn't fit in the chamber and it was bulky and touching the grip and release. I see the hks 10-a and people say fits the gun great. I'm about to try it. IDK why both wouldn't work as both models are suppose to fit the same kind of guns??
You're using the wrong HKS. You should use the HKS 586. That said the Safariland is faster for those who don't practice. HKS may spin the cylinder when twisting. Simply holding the cylinder prevents that problem. I have both and find no difference if I hold the cylinder. The HKS 10 I have is for my Dan Wesson revolver model 15.
I'm sold on it. I'm going to order some for my 686. I was wondering, though, about the caliber. Is it only available for 38/357 mag, or is it also available for bigger calibers?
Any gun that allows you to get hits on targets will do for self-defense. Many revolver guys I know are exceptional marksmen. Thanks for watching and commenting. You EDC should like a sweet rig to me!
Sir, thank you for commenting. Yes, unfortunately, I was born with a significant handicap of my left hand and arm, and had to have reconstructive surgery on my hand. I consider myself fortunate in that I am still able to shoot with some level of proficiency. I appreciate you commenting at hope you will subscribe.
I know this is not the topic of this Video but I would like to know how do you like those earmuff? Do they work properly? Do they worth the money that you paid for them? How about the overall quality?
I am a big fan of quality electronic ear muffs. I believe the ones in this vedio are Pro Ears. These cost about $120. They're good. However a year ago, I bought a pair of MSA Supreme Pro X. $300. Best investment I've made in years. us.msasafety.com/Hearing-Protection/Headband,-Electronic-Ear-Muffs/Supreme%26reg%3B-Pro-X-Earmuff/p/000090007600001028
Wishse, you mention you use the #10 HKS speedloader for your 686. The HKS #10 is better suited to the K frame S&W models, (Like the Model 10 38 special). HKS makes a #586 speedloader sized better for the L frame 686. Cylinder hole spacing is just a bit wider and inserts much smoother. I have used the #10 HKS in my 686, but it is not as fast or smooth. BTW I prefer the Safariland Comp II's also, for the same reasons you state.
I have a 1967 Colt Cobra 38 Special, 6 shot cylinder, and am having difficulty finding the correct Safariland COMP II Speedloader. I ordered the J--3PC, but it is a couple of millimeters wider than my cylinder. Need something slightly smaller. Can you help ? Thanks !
Is there a speedloader that can hold multiple complete loads for a revolver? As in you have a speed loader that holds 36 bullets for a 6 shot revolver so you can load that revolver 6 times before having to refill the speedloader.
Take a 5 D Cell magLight and then contemplate carrying that on your belt.. bump it into everything as you walk, the cartridges rattling around, not very ergonomic, and you would have to replace it on your belt after every reload, unless you plan on keeping it in hand the entire time… It is far easier to carry 6 individual speed loaders in their own belt pouches that you can use and discard in a gunfight, rather than one long magLight sized tube on the belt which you must retain somehow after each reload.
I have three safariland, never used the HKS. I am now looking for speedstrips, because I am not going to be carrying any speedloader as backup ammo any time ever, except in wintertime in a heavy coat. However, a speedstrip is possible in the summertime, even in shorts or light slacks. ps- tell me again, what do you say at the beginning of each video? And, you are in N.H.? Another New Englander here, but of the Nutmeg variety. Do you have a video explaining your business, and what classes you offer?
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC if you really like those I would try the speed bees they are superior to the Safari Land jet loaders or even this far away and compensation 3 the only problem I have with the jet loaders over a speed loader is that in a field they can prematurely eject the rounds so when you go for your loader you won't have any there but it all pertains to practice a newer person can definitely use a jet loader quicker but a competition shooter will actually take a speed loader over jet loader because of the pre mature release
