"Ultimately, thought, card advantage acquired at the end of the turn isn't as valuable as it may seem". Fair, but only when the advantage isn't a plus 7 in a good archetype.
in good archetype full of quick play spell that you can still use in the end phase... that card... konami is not good at balancing, but that was something else
@@lhgs7289 Spellbooks Spells nowadays are just brick who can search themselves, the only good spellbook cards outside of their advantagers is Fate and maybe Wisdom. If Judgement ever came back, it would be played because of the floodgate it pop off, who isn't even a particularly strong play but it's pretty unfun.
@@PKD145 Pure Spellbooks were terrible after SoJ's ban. And even back in 2013 SoJ was good because Jowgen totally shutdowned Dragon Rulers, the pluses weren't that useful.
Stopping dragon rulers, an entire engine that could be splashed into literally any elemental deck (not counting light and dark, duh), single-handedly, makes a bad card. Definitely! Nope, nothing wrong here!
@@Charagodslayer666 well, you can deep draw into your deck, then end your turn by summoning a jowgen from deck to lock your opponent out of special summoning. Not to mention you deep draw a bunch of quick play spell cards lol. If you have that with stuff to protect your jowgen, like solemn cards your opponent gets locked out basically
At this point, Spellbooks need a judgement card, or at least a better Spellcaster of Wisdom card where a Spellbook monster is immune to any card effects for one turn.
I quit the game over Spellbook of Judgment. It looked so absurdly OP that it didn't seem like there was still a point in playing anymore. The fact that it's regarded as so OP it *still* gets heat to this day makes me feel vindicated.
I'm a casual, so casual in fact that I haven't played "seriously" since like 2012, and just play every now and then with outdated decks that probably don't even work anymore, but even I know that Spellbook of Judgement is not bad at all lol
Conspiracy time: Dzeff makes these articles himself, then critiques them for views. Kidding aside, I still remember the feeling I got seeing dark magician in my first ever starter deck
Me too, I was like "what is this piece of garbage doing in my deck when I got my homeboy Summoned Skull in here as well? Let's buy two more of this deck so I can throw out Dark Magician and some random vanilla monster and change it for more summoned skulls!"
Strong contender for most broken overpowered individual card ever printed in the history of the game, and gets called "worst"??? Yeah, this is a troll.
These articles are so bad it's hilarious. I actually saw a similar article the other day ranking a bunch of Cyber Dragon cards that claimed that Drei was "the best normal summon in the deck"
@@misteralien8313 I think core was actually above drei on the list by a few spots. it's explanation for that one made sense actually, but i guess they just forgot about core when writing the section the one for drei.
They're just waiting for you to make ten of these reactions so they can make 'The 5 best Dzeef reactions to CBR articles (and five that aren't so good)'
@@funtimegamer8733 I can't imagine job satisfaction is very high if you have to write mass quantities of substance-less dreck that everybody makes fun of.
@@JoelBurger Solution, don't write substance-less dreck that people can make fun of. All this guy had to do is write about something he actually knows about, or put in ten seconds of research. Then it wouldn't be an article to make fun of, it would just be something no one really cares about. It might be substance-less, but at least no one would say anything. And if he bothered with a bit more research it could actually be a fun little list to read, maybe talking about the actual history of the game, like ol Dzeef does in his discussion videos.
Spellbook of judgement is one of the few spellcaster support that instantly gives you a match loss so I wouldn't call it anything other than the worst.
Oh you heard it here the MOST IMPORTANT card of the ONLY deck that held a candle to the borderline teir zero deck dragon rulers is beaten by a normal monster.
To be fair, I do think there is a possibility that Spellbook of Judgment could come back. Even in 2013, it was a card that was basically viable off the back of Jowgen the Spiritualist as a way to keep Dragon Rulers from playing, as even with Judgment the deck wasn't fast enough to compete otherwise. It's not the worst card on the banlist, but it is one of those cards that exists as a possible unban in the future I feel like. Adding a bunch of Spellbooks is no longer really that good in YGO, it's going to really depend on if the Spellcaster you summon is good enough. This article though, lmfao
I remember an article somewhere (cbr I think but I don't remember), that talked about times jaden cheated, one of them was drawing on the first turn, talking about a yugioh show, from the time players could draw first turn
Every time I see people claim Judgment is bad I can just tell they're not considering it in the context of the rest of the Spellbook deck. Adding one card during the End Phase seems like an alright effect but kind of mediocre (even though it's been meta relevant pretty recently thanks to Shizuku). The key is understanding that a Spellbook deck would regularly be adding 4-6 cards off of Judgment, plus getting to summon out a completely free monster from an enormous pool of choices. Just making your normal Spellbook plays gets you a free Jowgen the Spiritualist or Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer from your deck to floodgate your opponent out of the game. Plus, you can feel comfortable blowing your entire hand knowing that next turn you get an entire new hand with all cards that you want. When you look at the card in context and realize that it lets you effectively draw a new 5 card hand every single turn, it's abundantly clear why it's still banned after over 7 years and won't be coming back any time soon.
I used to play spellbooks in early 2020, the problem with them is that most of their non-searchers non-recycler cards are just bad, I tried to play with Judgement with a friend and it wouldn't broke Spellbooks at all, the only good thing this card does is popping jowgen during the end phase but at this point just ban jowgen and Judgement could come back to 1 without any huge problem.
@@underpressure1954 i only got to play it at one and I was wrecking all my friends. (Cause it was a $100 a card) Card is one of the only few that never made it past it’s released format!
Judgement has gotten horribly powercrept since 2013. Just using it to get Jowgen means that you're -3 on your turn 1 board. Sure you get to use the cards on your following turn but with the way modern Yugioh is unless you have an unbreakable turn 1 board 90% of the time you lose. Plus I fail to see how Jowgen lock is any more powerful than stuff like Turn 1 Double VFD, or Drytron decks skipping your first turn.
The list writer made it clear that ubiquity (being in every Deck) and nostalgic starring roles in the anime and manga both beat out power and actual results; Pot of Weed and Dank Magician (thanks, Anaconda) go in every Deck while Judgement needs a Deck built around it to win, whereas that Judgement Deck instakills all the other Decks on the back of that one card which is _kind of_ important to factor in when deciding which cards are the best.
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I haven't seen anyone but me use Performapal U-go golem. It's effect when pendulum summoned is: Once per turn, during your main phase, if this card was Pendulum summoned this turn: You can fusion summon 1 fusion monster from your extra deck using this card you control and dragon monsters you control as material. Very good for fusion decks that don't require specific cards or summoning requirements
@@annusforever3106 I've heard even before Judgement that Spellbooks at the time were generally considered a really good archetype. It's just that the addition of Judgement made it insane.
Exodia Decks then: [draws 30 cards in the first turn; gets 100% - 0% by opponent immediately] Exodia Decks now: [tries to activate 1 draw card to start a combo; gets Ash Blossom'd and dies immediately]
Yeah that's a pretty neat way to save face. "IF YOU FIND ONE OF MY ARTICLES WAS SHIT THEN CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST GOT TROLLED LOLOLOLOLOLOL" "I WASNT TROLLING IF YOU DID LIKE THE ARTICLE THO" We should stop pretending that every shit piece of content out there is a troll. Lazyness and stupidity are REAL and GENUINE things. You're giving stupid and/or lazy people a free pass on making shit content if you go easy on them by pretending they were trolling.
@@Maxim0M1 There is bad writing which could be saying something like god cards are good and then some try to write badly. No one would just claim that spellbook is a bad card out of ignorance. This is definately trolling and it is really obvious one. It really isn't useful to assume that everything is written seriously since these bad ones get a lot of attention.
@@Mursunpoimija I'm glad we're agreeing on something, which is precisely not to assume. You're claiming it isn't useful to assume it's written seriously but then go to on to assume that he's not. We do not know for sure. I'm just saying it's very possible that he IS being serious and he's just incompetent. I did not claim that it was ignorance that made him say that about the spellbook card, and I wouldn't have said that anyway because he specifically alluded to its status on the banlist, so he's obviously not ignorant about it. He may just have bad judgement. My point is that by assuming he's trolling you're throwing all criticism down the drain and everything he could have fucked up on is shielded by "LEL IRONY XDD". He made a bad article, I don't see any obvious joke or troll there. What I do see is him trying to rationalize on the spellbook with bad logic. If you think every badly written article out there is a troll and every journo knows his shit then you're in for a rude awakening. I also didn't say it was deserving of attention. If the article is bad then by all means it shouldn't be given attention. Dzeeff just comments on it because garbage content is good for his channel.
@@Maxim0M1 Well the writer doesn't defend the point with anything... This aticle is a clear troll. There is no chance for it being serious. If a youtuber sees it it gains attention and you don't gain attention with medicore informational content.
@@fn2025 ... That's my point. Shit remaining banned in 2019 despite the power level of the game leaving it behind years ago is an example going against the original comment.
@@0scarWalsh Tribe-infecting Virus *was* good though, in the same way that Breaker the Magical Warrior was good. In any case tribe infecting virus, while not massively competitive, doesn't deserve a place on a "worst cards" list. For example, if you pulled a Tribe-Infecting Virus in an early-weeks sealed-only deck, you'd play it. Because it's a pretty good card, just not good enough for an optimised competitive deck.
5:00 Nirvana High Paladin was used in like a 10 card combo in the Arc-V Anime that looked very impressive because his pendulum zone effect was used to reduce a 10000 ATK monster to zero. That is, it looks impressive to a casual anime viewer.
What makes Nirvana good is that he can halve opponent life point and it’s brutal early on and devastating because of it atk. Plus it can add any card from grave
Well, since Spell Book ofJudgment is one of the worst cards in the game, I guess it's fine to take off the banlist and put it right to 3 copies. Maybe we should park Dark Magician there instead
If card advantaged gained at the end of a turn isn't valuable, how do you explain Multirole? Card advantage at the end phase is valuable as long as you can stay alive and many decks today can stay alive past turn 1.
@@mazeradeville2911 It allows you to play without your opponent being able to respond so it has its own BS to work with. I love dueling Strikers but god damn does Multirole hurt to see and engage into engage make me want to die.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Ready to relive Engage PTSD with Drytrons? Benten into Benten into Benten. Then ritual summon Benten and tribute it again for even more searches.
@@Narium413 I already despised rituals as a mechanic in the game. I did not look forward to Draiton release and I am hoping they get nuked out of existence by the time I start playing again. Or pushed to the same pathetic position Nekroz is/was. I would be down for a free-win every duel.
SoJ isn't well known in casual enviroments, so the writer had at least some knowledge of the meta, even if it was for some time 5 years ago. I can only argue that it is a troll.
It would be cool if Dzeeff made like a proper version of each of the funny lists. A proper top 5 of the best and worst spellcaster cards would be really neat.
I think what they’re trying to say for part of their argument is that judgement requires a lot of resources for it to go off, setting aside the fact that it’s a part of spellbooks, an archetype where roughly one third of the support says “search other archetype thing”
I think maybe they are used to playing unerrata'd Imperial Order at 3, which is why they don't think secret village is good. Either that or thy play a lot of Spellcaster mirrors for some reason.
I've never played competitive Yugioh, and when I saw Secret Village I immediately knew how good it was. It disables 1/3 of the entire game for your opponent, while also not being broken since it does nothing if your opponent is playing a similar deck to you. Amazing card design.
This is ironic. The author seems to be an old-school casual play, but Secret Village of the Spellcasters sounds exactly like the type of bonkers shit you're expect from the DM era. A simple, yet powerful effect, just like Dark Hole, Raigeki, and Harpie's Feather Duster.
Hot take spellbook of judgement doesn't still need to be banned. What are you adding in the end phase really. Secrets, master, power, fate, eternity, tower? Those are pretty much your options along with summoning a jowgen or something. In today's game adding a bunch of searchers for one banish per turn and a 1000 extra attack boost on a monster isn't good. Sure jowgen is still busted if you have ample protection but look at floowanderies and the barrier statue.
It seems like with the Dark Magician post they're smart enough to put it in there because of its legacy and all the support that is enabled by that card. If that was the case they also should have realized how purely broken judgement is
Talking as a casual player whose seen all the videos in this series so far, Judgment seems like the kind of card that these articles usually love. You get spells back from the grave and get to special summon from the deck, what's not to love? The only way I can comprehend this if it is legit, is if it's less of a "best vs. worst" and more of a "cards I like vs. cards I dislike", and the guy just tried using it once, didn't think it through very well and lost, and went "well that's a bad card, I wonder why it's banned". Does he think that bad cards don't get unbanned cause nobody cares enough to think about them again?
I like the author's sole justification for Judgment is "the card advantage isn't as useful as it may seem". I wonder how he feels about other banned cards "Yata-Garasu might have the potential to handlock your opponent, but ultimately that isn't as useful as you might think" "Painful Choice may let you search out one card from your deck, but then 4 cards end up in your graveyard. What a waste!" "Dragon Rulers are stupidly easy to summon, and enable powerful rank 7 xyz plays, but who'd want that?"
Putting my opinion out there regarding spellbook of judgement: It is a strong card, bound to a (currently) weak archetype. As others have pointed out, it can be played with Invoked for a Jowgen + Mechaba, which is good, but requires a garnet (and hopefully, we drew Terra forming or meltdown, since judgement for Jowgen requires more than a single Invocation). While it isn't as impactful nowadays, I don't wanna know, how others would abuse it, besides Invoked = I would leave it on the list or (maybe) limit it for 1 format to test it. Thanks for reading Genisis64
The thing about spellbooks is that they work rather well with any kind of spellcaster monster. Given a sufficiently modern strong spellcaster archetype, I could see a spellbook engine being splashed in if spellbook of judgement was on the table.
@@underpressure1954 Pendulum tho? I can see it working. That aside, in Lithium's cross banlist cup, spellbooks at full power nearly beat modern day dinosaur. That is a testament to the power of the spellbook archetype and dragon rulers as well.
Seeing as I run a Dark Magician centric deck, this list makes me facepalm so hard when I see Secret Village of the Spellcasters and Magic Formula as bad Spellcaster cards. When running my deck, I find both are very helpful, especially since Dark Magician the Dragon Knight equipped with Magic Formula gives it a good boost. Plus, with Eternal Soul to combo, it helps bring back the Dark Magician I used to fusion summon Dark Magician the Dragon Knight, thus still preventing my opponent from using Spell cards
All jokes aside, would Judgement be played nowadays? The card advantage is amazing, but you have to fill your deck with questionable/bricky SB spells. Banishing one card per turn with fate just isn't as powerful payoff as it was in dragon ruler format.
I wonder how far in the future we will have to go, to be at a point where spellbook of judgement is actually a bad card. A +5 often more, on turn end could in theory get power creeped because it's "slow".
Maybe they said Spellbook of Judgement was bad because it's degenerate or poorly designed. >Reads article Nope, they have no idea what they're talking about.
I'm sad that my girls winda and ecclesia aren't on the list. :( I mean winda say's that you can only special summon once and ecclesia say's that you cannot special summon from the extra deck, so that makes them automatically bad!
To *lightly* defend Exodia... If the card existing actively warps card design to prevent it from being viable... that's a pretty good card. ... Now. *Because* of how much it warps card design, it also means it can never be *viable* because if it ever does become viable, the game rapidly breaks down into degenerate FTK central. (Good =/= viable, Dark Magician -the card- is not good, but it is viable becaus of Dragoon, while Dark Hole is good but depending on format is not always viable.)
It'd be kind of interesting to reach out to the people who write these articles if they have a name/contact information associated with them so you could illicit their thinking and you could specifically see where they're coming from without having to rely solely on the context of the article