I’ll never understand people who say this rendition of venom is “one of the greatest”, let alone the best. This game understands nothing about what makes venom interesting outside of his design and VA. I usually don’t care if a new adaptation of a character changes said character, as long as the changes not only make sense within the given context, but also supersede the original version. This version is worse in every way. Venom went from a dark mirror version of spider man that was beyond dangerous due to having access to peter’s memories and being able to not trigger his spider sense, to a big dumb alien brute that wants to take over the planet because “it’s an alien”. The entire reason venom is even slightly interesting as his own character compared to most of spider man’s rogues gallery is that his motivations are nuanced and evolve as he develops as a character. He has a twisted form of justice, which translates directly from him turning into an Anti-hero after finally forgiving peter and letting go of his hatred. He’s always been goofy even as a villain, so it makes sense he would be even goofier as a hero. I cant believe Im saying this, but the venom movies are a significantly better depiction of the character. And now there are rumors of a venom game with him as an anti hero? How does that make any sense? It’s beyond apparent that this version of venom could give less of a shit about saving people, he was more than willing to enslave the entire planet by twisting harry’s “heal the world” mission. You could make the argument that this venom just understood the assignment incorrectly and did actually want to help people, but if that were the case, why would he completely take over harry to the point of not letting him have any influence over his body? It feels like a jumbled mess of 2 scripts snd they just said “fuck it, mix and match till we get something that looks coherent”
Thank you for writing this so I didn’t have to write it😂. Yes Venom used to be the vegeta to Spider-Man’s goku. A dark mirror. In modern media he’s just a big gooey brute who doesn’t shoot webs or anything spiderman like. He’s more like fat majin buu instead of Vegeta. I think ultimate Venom is when things went wrong for this character. PS: Venom was big because the host was big in size. I’ll never get over a small kid like Harry being Venom. The symbiote is not supposed to enhance the hosts size. This is something else taken from ultimate Venom which is stupid.
7 out of 10, the Gameplay is Great, Each Spider-Men brings something Unique, the Villains look Good, and the Graphics look Amazing, I just think that if they delay the Game for Another Year and Fix the Story and the 3rd Half, it could have been Better but if Feels Underrated because something felt missing and now a Year Later and no DLC Expansion, I guess we’ll never Know.
7/10 is a bit low id say, people rated the first game sooo highly (mainly coz of its story) but in big part to its gameplay which the 2nd game FAR supercedes, the story wasn’t the best for sure but it wasn’t awful and had some great moments, as someone who gave the first game a 9-10 id give this one an 8-9
@@bekwem4625 To me if the Game had more time and the Third Act was Better and we got DLC to complete Loose Ends, I would have given it a 8 or a 9 but I view it as a Underrated Game, now i am playing to play SM2 soon so I can see if I can change my mind, I just think some parts didn’t aged well
@@bekwem4625I wouldn’t say FAR supersedes outside of the web swinging. The mission design isnt any better, the set pieces aren’t better, and the combat is arguably worse in some aspects, but better in others.
You said they buffed Peter, but honestly removing his gadget wheel made me feel like they were nerfing him. Only having four slots to do abilities and only a couple gadgets on the side was pretty disappointing to me. I also didn't love the trope the game kept using of letting The bad guy escape every time you defeat them because the story demanded it. I also think beating up random civilians who are now wearing venom suits is also ridiculous and kind of funny, but not to the game's benefit.
was so disappointed with this game having two spidermen had crazy potential but it didn’t do much with that concept the story was rushed and there was nothing to do compared to the first game.
@@Trench-coatwell to be fair it's not entirely insomniacs fault I mean they did have to cut out content and they clearly had a lot more stuff planned for the game just that Sony rushed them in a way and just needed a bit more time, also love the video 👍🏾
God this game was so disappointing. I was immediately suspicious when Peter tried to punch giant sandman in the face and was nearly killed until Miles saved him. Encapsulates pretty much everything the game would do wrong later on.
On the next Insomniac Spider-man 3 they need improve on the game play mechanics and focus more on the story because that's what the second one was lacking it had too much going on all at once as where they should've made the symbiotic episodes a DLC instead of a main storyline
I completely agree! A more focused storyline would really enhance the overall experience. It’s always better when the game mechanics and narrative are well-balanced. I am worried that they will go to big for Spiderman 3 though...
Idk why I thought this was a video essay by a huge channel. This is super well made and your script was phenomenal. You’ll definitely be big if you keep it up! You have a great voice for this!
I am not gonna lie the Symbiote Spider Man fight while cool in narrative might as well be the worst in gameplay aspects, in fact so many things are broken in that boss it’s ridiculous like webbing up Peter actually makes you immune to all his attacks he be attacking you but shootings webs makes you completely immune, Web Throwing Peter is odd too a lot of animations weren’t meant for him so when you web throw him Peter will also be doing the web throw animations making it look kinda silly, he has a lot of basic thug animations too that I found recently as yes Peter will pull out a godamm combat knife to free himself from webbing if you time with photomode and look up close spider man will be holding a knife when he breaks out of the webs things like this show how rush this boss fight actually and how it’s one of the easiest in the series too the bell just adds on to it even more on how easy it can get, I genuinely hate this boss in the gameplay aspects of things.
I'm furious that they weakened Peater so much in spider man 2018 he was a bad ass he fought all these villains he was just very strong but in spider man 2 he seems terribly weak and Miles being spider man for a year (I don't remember if it was definitely a year) is a better spiderman than SPIDER MAN in my opinion the story would have been better without Miles or at least they could have not made Peater so weak. What do you think about that?
my guy he lost aunt may and he's physically and mentally exhausted from being spiderman and having all these responsibilities, he needs a break which he got in spiderman 2
@@eapen7297 "He can't get exhausted, he's spider man!!!" *hes a literal human being with superpowers, he still has feelings* If you played the game you should've noticed he's just not as energized, his spider sense still works but he's caught by surprise more often which can easily be attributed to distraction, anxiety and etc due to all the stress he's going through with his best friend, MJ, and the symbiote Hell the theme of spiderman 2 is LITERALLY PETER doubting himself as a spiderman, he's not fit to be one, he's getting slow, falling behind etc... With the symbiote all of that was technically fixed, he's stronger, faster and now almost on par with Miles (minus the aggressive nature of the suit) But even so, he's still tired and needs a break from being spiderman and allow others to shine (Miles and possibly Silk), though he'll probably still remain the main spiderman just not as the main focus
@@killforskill_bla5441 Hopefully he won't be shadowed in future games, which probably won't happen if we get a standalone game for silk but hopefully they know what they're doing with pete taking a "break" again
I honestly really really enjoyed this game, but the story felt rushed yet it felt like the pacing was very very slow. Aswell as the sidemissions, Spider-Man 1 was ahead of its time! I waited till last week to start it, and i just finished it about half an hour ago, new game+ & two 100% playtroughs. I hope Spider-Man 3 comes up with something interesting, i'm still very hyped tho!
It's great to hear you enjoyed the game! I totally get what you mean about the pacing and story-it's a fine line they walk. I am super excited for Spider-Man 3 but also nervous that they go to big!
9/10. One of the best games on playstation 5. The only gripe for me is too much combat. I like more exploration or platforming and there’s not enough for me here. But everything is top-notch
Going into spiderman 2 I was expecting the game to be the arkham city (still the best superhero game as far as I'm concerned) of its series and it doesn't. The first game lived up to my excitement and it's very good and it was the foundation just as Asylum was for Batman but. Miles morales was moving in the right direction but this game was a letdown. Spiderman 2's stealth is worse somehow, the combat is missing the suit and visor mods, suit powers and gadgets are worse versions of the previous ones. The only good thing is the traversal and it's still lacking feature games like web of shadows allowing spiderman to run in any direction on the wall. I shouldn't have pre-ordered this one and got the RE4 remake and Deadspace remake. The games only cost 600 rands each at BT games and I would've saved 200 (I assume you're South African with accent). I agree about venom and Kraven being the best visually and the VAs did an amazing job but I was hoping they'd be stalkers who pounce out of nowhere like taskmaster did in the first game but Kraven was mostly a Gladiator. 6/10 after my second playthrough.
Yeah I feel you. I kinda also wished they would pounce on us in the open world like in Arkham knight with the vampire bat. Ps - Dead space remake is phenomenal. I'll do a years later on it as well.
7/10 i think is being nice but its a fair score. The game is fun to play, but not to complete. The story is fine too, it's just very short and yeah the lows are very low. It just feels like the game is missing a whole two acts in the story. We paid 70 bucks for an unfinished product.
I really wanted to play as kraven and go on the hunt for the supers he was tracking., I also wanted to get more playing time as venom I was disappointed with that. The Mary Jane mission was not needed at all. And it was a let down they left us hanging on kraven family he said he has a wife and two kids that wanted to take over the family business. They dropped the ball.
Great video as usual. I disagree, however in some points, but I understand your critics. I loved the combat. It's intense and dynamic. I personally hated the way of using the gadgets in 1, I didn't use them a lot, but in 2 I was constantly using them. It was very fun. About the story, I didn't feel it rushed, but very intense, specially the last third part of the game. Everything was urgency and trying to make things right in a tragic context. On the other hand, I think that 1 was better balanced than 2 in terms of pace. Another thing I consider far better in 2 than in 1 is all the secondary stuff. In 1 it just was there, but in 2 I felt it mattered. And the movement across the city is just THE thing in this game. Let's hope when in Insomniac said there is no DLC planned for the game they just mean that there is another standalone product like Miles Morales game. But I don't know. They must be very busy with Wolverine. I agree about that when you say there are some things that feel some kind of incomplete. We will see for 3. Congratulations for the great job!
@@McGalahad I didn't remember that XD. Yeah, It's weird. But I keep in mind all that part like I had to fight and save the city with no stops. I trully loved the last hours of the game.
It's called the honeymoon phase. At the start we were just excited for having a sequel, two spideys, venom, kraven etc etc. But now after time has passed and the honeymoon phase over. You start to look at the game for what it is. A rushed story, an emasculated Peter, nothing new or innovative over the first game (except for gliding with a wing suit and bigger map), same side missions as the first game, rinse and repeat, no additional story content, dropped story lines (carnage and chameleon). It played on the strengths of spider man 2018 and that's all about it.
Opening scene was awesome. I got bored halfway through. I forced my way through the story and deleted it. I had not motivation to do the side missions. I am kind of glad it had no DLC. I loved the first one and really enjoyed Miles Morales. And for the love of GOD, no more MJ missions!!!!!!!!!
What he. Meant by spider arms was that, it doesnt suit Peter's character. As in the prequel, where he crafted his own gadgets, the spider arms don't fit that narrative in the sequel. He just gets the spider arms. To try and be level with the awesome powers of miles.
I adored the first, enjoyed the second. Won’t buy a third if it follows the trend. Never liked venom, and certainly didn’t like more Miles, MJ and obscure unnecessary Miles missions.
Mid game, forgot about it when I 100%. Only one mission was memorable, yes I'm no marvel fan but then again these developers aren't too🤡🎪. Sit back and watch DEI and sweet baby Inc infect your fantasy.
