Spillin' The Tea: Racism in Drag Fandom & Cultural Appropriation vs. Appreciation | Billboard 

I agree with you.

Sibling rivalry available on podcast

Kenny same!!! I thought this same exact thing

Same

i agree up to the point he claimed to be offended because someone said he was well-spoken. If you turn that compliment into a racial attack your pretty far gone...

We need drag queens to educate us and teach the children!

''real issues'' lol

well i dont know where ur from "Aksana" but in america, non-white people have faced multigenerational mass oppression. This has been achieved by every means (education, law enforcement, discrimination, etc.) and almost every single one of their lives has been colossally influenced by this overarching presence of racism. So YES, they are very real issues.

also PS for example, if you grew up in America with a name like yours and your skin were any darker, people would call you ghetto and not probably not offer you the job

@Molly AAAAND you are? oh right, no one whos opinion Im gonna value mr ''anonymous'' profile. such a brave little coward arent ya?

oh trust me, he knows. we all know.

@@hellaSwankkyToo if you don't live here, no, you don't know

That Rad Guy don’t think you need to live there to know how racist people can be

@@FieryFlamingFajitas you sound silly. y'all's racism is obvious + pervasive + insidious + just as bad as the u.s.'s. we all know. LOLOL you tried it.

@@katc2040 unless you live in this country then you have no idea actually. It's easy to look at something through social media and assume you know it but you're not actually seeing all the underlying issues, the history and the many things that contribute to it. So no you can't really sit there and say you know about what goes on in another place unless you yourself live there

Lie's

Dan B given the format of the series so far we’ll most likely get a new roundtable soon, but you’re so right. this group of queens is so damn good. my favorite group so far.

I wish they would bring this set of girls exactly back to the series

Bob for president 🙌

Ugh still waiting

Right !!!

Absolutely!!!!!

Nah i want pop culture not sjw shit

alberto gonzález man get the FUCK outta here with your dumb-dumb bubble gum ass. Bitch, this is drag it’s ALWAYS BEEN POLITICAL!

Sasha Belle is that you?

@James Chris Notice how everyone in the comment section(Including yourself) who replied negatively to bob's articulate explanation of racism and its impact on the US has no face pic or video uploads.. I wonder why that is... lol

He literally just said that being racist doesn't make you a bad person, another way of saying it is, is not so much that being racist is negative in it self but the effects of unacknowledged racism is, therefore a way to tackle that it is by making it visible, addressing it. What's negative is silence.

@@terrancejovan4825 i smell white privilege and ignorance in these comment sections rip

@James Chris What he was saying was that unconscious bias arise in people who arent poc to devalue poc through the media they consume. An example of this is before the 2000s if a description of a criminal was aired on the news, if it was a black man, they'd say a black man however if it was a white man the broadcasters would just say *a man* That doesn't seem big, but that unconscious thought that someone isnt as good of a human because of their race gets reaffirmed everytime it happens. That's what subconcious racism is. We have to acknowledge it if we want change

@@whateveristoomuch I get that a bit but can you explain it to me more? Because I agreed with Bob until he said being racist doesn’t make you a bad person and I was like hold on😂 some racist folks are bad people. White supremacist, nazis and such. Is Bob talking about the people that don’t believe that but are still inherently racist since they were raised in a system that benefits them? Isnt that just knowing you have white privilege? I’m confused please explain 😭. Edit: I kinda understand more now seeing other comments but still need more education

Marina and The Devil tru tea

Amen sister.

@Pseudo- nymph Marina and the Devil is a legend.

The fact that you all think it's just entertainment shows you've missed the point.

@@zalanahara270 it can be entertaining and political...?

Some of us get defensive because its a false claim.

It's the truth. He thankful that you are white be cause you have the luxury of cluelessness.

mushamotts well said!

@Let me pretend I care. . . Okay, I'm done. You can't be racist towards white people. That simply does not happen with our existing power structures. And I cannot for the life of me get behind how white people place all of this energy into "all white people aren't racist" yada yada, (which we already know btw, it's not ALL of you, IT'S most you) when it's much much easier to just acknowledge the privilege you have and use that to elevate black people's voices and change the way MOST of y'all act towards minorities. Y'all act as if this "false claim" that all white people are racists actually affect y'all in real life, like if you'd just walk away from the internet and stepped out of your houses for once you'd know white people hardly get repercussions for being racist so take several seats.

People like Bob who speak half knowingly and generalize a group of people?

3:30 she did the Nina at the season 9 reunion

Im not ashamed. Never ever felt ashamed either. I was ashamed that i had nappy hair and wanted a perm yes but black people have to take responsibility for that because why during the 60s were we black and proud and wearing afros unapologetically only to go back to perms and weaves. Everything aint the white mans fault. We as blacks and ive even heard oprah say that we write our own story. And at some point we have to start. Blaming others will only get u so far

I have never been to America but growing up I have always admired black people, from the continent, to the sports folks, leaders & culture ...... I must be an asian man with a black soul :)

@@JustBree716 yeah you referring to us as “blacks” shows that you yourself are a white person 😭

@@TheKarmacola ew you’re disgusting don’t ever say that again “a black soul” What??

@@tonyal8839 my picture says otherwise but ok. Im not a nigga

Kpop stans are really everywhere but I don't think Mark is a good example cuz when u live in a country for a long time u can easily forget a language even if it's a language u were fluent in plus he comes from a group that is labeled Korean so people won't expect him to speak English well

@@timna5120 mark is canadian tho. He is a Canadian citizen, ıt was weird for reporter to to say that.

facts!!!!!

Whatever one of the biggest issues with the drag queens and fans and literally no one talks about it

@Chanel Oberlin it actually wouldn't be racism anyway, it would be colorism which would make you prefer people of lighter complextion, if it was the case. anyways, it is a real problem and the fact that you are not a racist doesn't mean racism isn't an actual issue bb

@Chanel Oberlin no liking someone over someone else isn’t racism. what is racism is acting like racism isn’t an actual issue.

Please watch his sibling rivalry sessions with monet x change. So funny and informative.

Bob is great. I want more Bob too.

Have Bob take over the View imagine Bob vs Meghan McCain omg I'd live

kadeedra session Facts are facts 💁‍♂️

Because he didn't eat a fucking BABY

Because he didnt eat a fucking baby

Facts are facts, America. Facts are facts.

True True

I knew you are that kind of girl. Gross.

@@mjm3091 اخرسي

@@mjm3091 lol what

it's millennial white guilt

JakeyonceTV Isn’t it amazing how clearly & positively they explain these big issues, I hope this is a regular show!!

If they do do another season, they need the wisdom of queen Sasha Velour there. I mean, after Bob, it's going to be tough anyways.

Correct anti white racism

I don’t really mind other people wearing braids but just not white people cause for the most part other races support us blacks in equality so I don’t see why they can’t wear them but not white pepole they think it’s strictly a fashion trend and don’t care to learn the facts behind it

Cedric Johnson I certainly hope so Cedric I've been waiting for years for something like this to come out where we would be able to hear the Queen's discuss in an honest and real way the important and tough topics. The problem is the way RU-vid is going it seems all of the great quality content inevitably becomes not available for free viewing. I suspect that if this continues we may have to start to pay to view. I certainly hope not. We'll have to see.👀🖒👄

Cedric, thanks for loving our tea! What queens would you like to see for the next season? What topics would you want us to cover, or continue discussing?

@@Billboard Please keep the same queens in this panel - they keep it real and are amazing.

yes please

Billboard I’d love to see Naomi Smalls in this panel, considering she hit a million followers, I would like her to do a follow up of this topic with these queens.

Well I think this episode (as in last few weeks) was mostly about genders - and that's why we got this rooster of queens this time. They aren't following a script, but going full discussion now - and it seems they just went off to other really close in importance matter.

I think Kim Chi and Jinx would be a great addition to the cast

At least you have someone from your culture. There are so many Latinas in the drag community, especially RPDR and they don't even have one on here.

agreed, it really bothers me how queens on drag race are called “the skinny kim chi” “the knockoff jujubee” etc etc just because they have this idea that all Asian people are the same person. It upsets me too how much our culture is used as a prop to seem “””oriental”””. Hearing the judges constantly shout “animezing” Kim chi disturbed me a lot. Paired with the grouping in with white people whenever race is mentioned I wish they’d talk about it more

@@roseclouds5838 Well, the judges make puns all the time, and many of the white queens are also compared to one another. When Mariah called Farrah Moan "Courtney Act's little sister", no one batted an eyelid, and rightly so. Racism is a real problem even in the drag community and among drag fans, but if someone's style or look reminds you of someone else, I don't think it's wrong to say so. I'm pretty sure Mariah said that about Farrah because both she and Courtney are fishy, skinny queens who often go blonde in drag, not (just) because they're both white.

Simple. Like a white man who is dating a black woman to then call her the N word when he gets into a fight with her. Also, in gay culture. WHITE gay men will have sex with black men but never date them. ITs not that hard to figure out.

Js Life not true. Drag culture in it self is amazing. How they embrace who they are is awesome. They do that with or without drag race. There are a LOT of amazing drag queens who haven’t or aren’t gonna be on drag race. Their work is not valued any less than a drag race queen.

Sander Moland well I do agree that queens do not need drag race to embrace themselves but viewers now a day do not understand how drag came from oppressed backgrounds (specifically black/latinx trans women of color) especially how they paved the way for rupaul to be a successful queen and for ru to make transphobic comments and people getting this idea that drag race represents drag overall when it does not, therefore viewers acting all negatively to diferente styles of drag

Js Life i agree with you on that

Sander Moland you missed the point mawma

What prejudices have we been taught ? For real this is good wake them up more go alllll in 👍😁

You can't solve a problem you can't even see. People want to think of themselves as reasonable. Progressive people tend to want to think of racism and sexism etc as the "bad people" and while it is true people may support other cultures, rally for them, feel that they are an ally, all of us need to admit to ourselves that america as whole(media, schools, american holidays, the beauty standard, "professional behavior", privilege every single corner really) has been influenced by all of those prejudices and whether you think you are the most woke person in the country or not, you have been affected on some level by all of those things. That is the main problem I see with even progressive allies, they want to help, sure, they want to point out things, they want to rally, but they don't want to admit that they have been affected by prejudices in ways they might not even think about. They are so busy looking for every one else's bigotry that they can't see that maybe sometimes they are the problem or need to look at parts of them to improve themselves and thus the way marginalized people feel around them. People always look at me sideways when I tell them that it's super important for me to see the way racism, sexism, all the isms and internalized homophobia has made me default a certain perspective. I know people hate the term micro-anything but it's all the little shit too. The shit you think might be petty. We must fight against a culture that pushes isms down our throats and of course we need to fight against hate groups and laws that keep marginalized people unsafe and not equal but we must also pay attention and notice the things WE OURSELVES are guilty of and recognize them and work on ourselves to change our perceptions. It's easy to point and blame, it's a lot harder to say "maybe I am the problem in this situation." Sorry rant over. And if I misspelled something get the fuck over it!

@@gulliver1755 Telling white people that they can't speak on their experiences with racism or have no room to say anything is only deterring white people from being an ally, saying a white person will always be racist and a born racist just because their skin color is fucked up. White people don't have a choice and it's not their fault they are born white. And living in a white society and thus benefiting from white being the majority is not an active choice, you don't just decide "oh yes, I'm going to participate." As opposed to what? Is the only way a white person can redeem themselves is by moving out of America? That's utterly ridiculous.

Playful Fruit Don't think of it like you're trying to reach some end goal of being not racist because it's not possible. The hardest part is accepting that--even if you didn't choose it--you are inherently born with privileges that other people aren't. "White people dont have a choice being born white" and black people didn't choose to be born into a world that is racist against them. You have to just accept what you are born with and acknowledge all that holds for you and try to see things from other group's perspectives. People get so defensive when they are called racist because no one wants to be that but instead of defending why you think white people arent racist just stop and realize the world was made for you, everything in media and practices is catered to your interests, you already have so many opportunities it looks like a sore winner when you are basically saying "I get everything but I don't like it when people tell me that!"

@@christmastiger Please look up the actual definition of racism before you speak then please. Because it's the fear or hatred of a race, of which, most intelligent people these days, do not feel or exhibit. Furthermore, just because you say somebody is something, doesn't make it so :) Only the white people you're talking about can confirm or deny whether they feel a certain way. Thenkkkk yewww, goodbye.

Seriously! I've never seen anyone who can speak a second language do that, and it's such an acceptable thing to say.

Lol everytime I talk to americans I get that "wow your english is so good for someone not born here!" Like do they think outside of america everyone lives in stone age?

Take the compliment snowflake

alberto gonzález shut the fuck up.

@@TheRodriguezd1987 ignore him, he is trolling on every comment 🙄

I don't kno

Hello!!!!!!

in my opinion connor we better hire the vixen for truth talking!

THANK GOD NO EUREKA

Truer words have never been spoken.

😂😂😂

Omigod can you imagine? Yikes.

But she belongs here with all these queens of color

Bridget Hinojosa true, but bob‘s big argument at the beginning about “all white people are ...“ might be a nice controversal statement to launch a discussion, but a very unprofessional and unscholarly way if that is your main point of the debate. you can‘t ask people to never generalize, as aja asked for later on, but at the same time put every single individual (in the states or even the world) that was born with a certain skin complexion into one category. i‘m sorry, i love her drag and basically everything else she said in this video, but that was either intentionally polemic and or just hypocritical, which both does not look so great on her.

@@brunoir283 It's not about skin complexion, it's about being born into a culture of white supremacy that privileges white skin & teaches people to internalize positive associations with whiteness & negative associations with Blackness or being a person of colour. When you're born into a culture of white supremacy like America (built on slavery, racial oppression, denial of rights, l*nching, over-policing & over-incarceration etc), you breathe in racism the way you breathe air. No one is saying each individual white person is a bad person--what people are saying is that white people are raised on white supremacy, & if you don't realize it & work to unlearn & change it, you will just blindly perpetuate the racism that is all around you in the culture.

I totally agree. I've lived in Shreveport for 20 years where Chi Chi is from, and what she said is so true, they look down on us country folk ☺ I'm from East Texas and have a twang to my accent and people look at me funny sometimes, like "where you from girl" I just roll my eyes. Lol

Anyone who think Shreveport is country has not seen the rest of Louisiana.

@@Ladytasya so true ☺ Shreveport is very much a city but it's close to so many small country towns. I love it here though, been in Cedar Grove for 20 years ☺

LaTasya Booker lol yeah I'm from a town of 900 and we are considered large compared to surrounding "towns" of 70 to 300 people. If you have to bus to another town for school because you don't have one where you live that is country as fuck.

code switching his texan accent 😭😭 you really have no idea what code switching is. you sound stupid

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Could you imagine Senator Bob the Drag Queen delivering a filibuster on the Senate floor? I'd live.

Lol did u not listen to the video. Calling. Black person well spoken is a mocroagression? It’s an insult not a compliment. U wouldn’t call a white person well spoken.