SpinClean as good as ultrasonic record cleaning? 

You're very welcome Eric

You're welcome thanks for your gracious reply Glad you are using the sleeve city inner and outer those are my favorites. Cheers Ron

I really like my spin clean it cleans the records, Really well it was Just that I needed a better wait to dry them

Yeah thanks for stopping by and I concur Glad you Liked the video

Yeah my whole collection is in housed in those now Very nice thanks for stopping by

Yup when I grow up I want a 16.5 in and ultrasonic Congratulations and thanks for watching glad you're enjoying the videos

cool thanks for the info on the flocculant liquid i will have to check it out. thank you so much for your help Bro

What about let them dry 45-60 minutes? This system provides a piece where you can place your cleaned records and let them dry. www.musicstore.com/en_OE/EUR/Knosti-Disco-Antistat-Generation-II/art-DJE0006893-000;pgid=QKBgCvGIZAlSRpMHgjvx95kA0000R-MeHF4C

Abel Ferrara That is what I do. What bothers me about that is all the dust particles in the air landing on my wet record for an hour.

Always a pleasure my friend thanks for stopping by don't forget to like the video and share it Cheers brother

adding 1 tablespoon of ILFOTOL to a gallon of distilled water works better than just water the ILFOTOL breaks the waters surface tension enabling the water to actually get deep in the record grooves. I did a AB using a couple of records I cleaned using water, then re cleaning with ILFOTOL and now records sound much better more details. good luck Ron

Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video

Yeah you know I have not used a ultrasonic machine but vacuuming the residue off the records works well Thanks for the encouraging words I appreciate it very much Brother thank you

Hey Richard I'm sure your system works to perfection I am a cheap Skate my method only cost me 300 bucks and I think it works great for the money I hope your vacation was a lot of fun thanks for stopping by brother

Dang! 78 and still working. You must be in pretty good shape

Thanks for stopping by Glenn glad you're enjoying the videos cheers Ron

Hey Barry thanks for stopping by and leaving that great feedback as per usual don't forget to check the bell icon and share the video if you can buy for now

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i will be selling again soon stay tuned to my videos for the announcement thank you for watching, cheers Ron

Yeah you basically nailed it the way I make my cleaning fluid it's so cheap it doesn't pay to clean a lot of records with Dirty solution The number can be subjective it's like how dirty are they keep an eye inner solution you can look in the bottom how much stuff coming off and the cleaner the water The better. Very important you have to check your brushes and clean them often Because unknown Debris may get stuck to them and that could do harm to your records Thanks for the great Question thanks for liking the video and don't forget to share the video

Thanks Dylan

yes i learned about that process just after I purchased the Record Dr. 5 now in my new man cave not as easy to do thank you for sharing and leaving great info my friend

@@RocknRonni youre welcome Ron

thank you so much for your very helful tips much appreciated. I have a new video with a new solution its really good. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4TtPFQ0UqfM.html

Yeah I'd be too freaked out when I put the hot water on the record, and it got a bit warped. I'd lose my cool at that point lol. Like I said my method with using the the dish soap on the face cloth, and the tap water rinse. I've done previously back in the day, when I didn't have a spin clean, and it works great. I never could hear any residue on my records after. Thanks for liking the video don't forget to subscribe and hit the reminder bell, and sharing the video if you can. thank you very much

This is very similar to the method advocated by George Merrill. He actually sells a simple device made of pvc tube to hold the record in the sink while you rinse it with warm water. A final rinse with distilled water, and a dry with either diapers or microfiber and you are done.

I do the same.

I'm old school I think the record jacket is to protect the record so I put it back in the jacket. I've just been doing it for 50 years it's not any trouble. You might call it Force of habit. yeah I see a lot of people doing it the way you describe. Glad you liked the video thanks for stopping by

Thank you I will be very interested to watch the video I really like Paul's channel And I am interested in the humminguru that would be coming out in a few months for $400 usd

Yes after about 10 or so records I dump the water and I clean the pads off really nice and put it all back together and fill it up again here we go again That is a good question and something I forgot to Point out thanks for watching glad you liked the video and don't forget to share

@@RocknRonni How do you clean the pads? Do you use a brush? Hold them under running water (distilled or tap)? How often should a pad be replaced all together? Are the pads readily available for purchase somewhere? I liked your video!

@@manjoguy Well when I rinse the spin clean out I pull the pads out hold them under running water and I just use the pads against each other and rub them Agaynst each other and then use my hand kind of make sure that there's nothing on their feel them for any grit or dirt sometimes I've heard where people don't clean their pads and pads picked up some grit from the dirrty records then the pads start scratching the records my records are not that dirrty but you need to make sure their clean and free of debris and nice and soft my pads are still like new after about 600 records so I am not sure how often you have to replace them but they do have replacement brushes.

your right thanks I now use a new solution and I made a new video adding 1 tablespoon of ILFOTOL to a gallon of distilled water works better than just water the ILFOTOL breaks the waters surface tension enabling the water to actually get deep in the record grooves. I did a AB using a couple of records I cleaned using water, then re cleaning with ILFOTOL and now records sound much better more details. good luck Ron

I emptied the tank after I clean 10 records it's very simple I just do it in the bathroom that's close to my record room dump it out clean the brushes off rinse out the tank go back to my record area fill it back up

Making the cleaner the way I do I change it every 10 records because it's so cheap I also last month made another video and a new Cleaning solution that works awesome you need to watch the video

Yeah you won't wreck your vinyl but I have a better solution right now just made a new video last week be sure to watch it fantastic information in the video.

I have found it getting the label a little bit wet doesn't matter it wipes right off in my experience no problem now don't get harsh soap on it because it will mess it up

@@RocknRonni It matters to me. I don't want no part of my records screwed up. I rather use the vinyl revirginizer, when i ever get it.

Haven't had to change them yet but I've heard of folks that have

I probably need to revisit my record cleaning procedures I have a new video up called best record cleaning solution where I talk about my new process and the records do sound so much better it's unbelievable you really have to hear it to believe how good they sound after using TERGIKLEEN

You are correct do not use tap water use distilled Water like I recommended. I think the difference that I am talking about is using a vacuum to Remove the dirty water rather than air dry that's a big deal for me

@@RocknRonni I see your point. I'm going to get the humminGuru ultrasonic for $400 if the review video's give it the nod. Still have 3 weeks before the 1st batch of those go out.

@@aw1889 yes that hummingbird looks like a great product congratz

Thanks John for a bunch of great information in that message but I didn't say vacuuming causes static. I said not vacuuming when you just use the spinclean with the spinclean soap leaves a lot of soap residue on the record and that's what I hear as static

Yeah sorry the title is kinda click bate I didn't actually do a test with the ultrasonic but when I use the record doctor to vacuum clean my records I think they may be slightly cleaner then when using an ultra sonic and you air dry your records. that's kind of my point You're right in order to do a proper test I need to buy the other equipment but I am getting great results with this method I've contemplated buying that but I don't feel a need to because this works so well the reason is because of the vacuum. In a typical ultrasonic you're not vacuuming the records your air drying them

I have 2 U/S tanks, one a Kirmuss and the other a massive 27L 12 transducer unit I have had for 8 years. I also have a Vinyl Stack, the device that rotates the records along with my trusty VPI 16.5 that I have removed the platter on so my cleaned records dont sit on the dirty cork mat. Since I switched to the mechanical scrubbing technique followed by deionized/distilled water rinses then vacuum I pretty much do not use the ultrasonic cleaners at all. My current process is Using a Mofi Brush apply Liquinox Vacuum Using Kirmuss Brush apply tergitol/ilfotol Vacuum Using a different Mofi Brush apply deionized Water Vacuum I have a recording of a Steely Dan album that was ultrasonically cleaned twice and L'Art duson washed then recorded, then one pass with the process outlined above and then recorded and the results are staggering. Below is a link to the recording yadi.sk/d/beN32_JymWfAdw

@@pbthal So would you suggest using DE ionized water instead of distilled water in the spinclean

@@pbthal Would you like to part with the "worthless" :) Kirmuss? info@whittierlibrarybookstore.com. We have a spin-clean that we currently use.

@@RocknRonni I think either is fine, I just get it for like 30 cents a gallon at Whole Foods

Hello my friend If you want to have high Fidelity with your vinyl you need to vacuum them after they're cleaned this will improve your sound believe me it's very important Since the video I have changed my record cleaning solution to just using ilfotol and distilled water, one bottle of ilfotol cost about $27 you can make 60 gallons of record cleaning solution. This has been proven to be one of the most superior cleaning fluids Because it's a wetting agent and is able to break the surface tension of the water and enable the water to get into the microscopic groove if you cannot remove all the water and dirt from the groove your records are still not clean a cloth cannot get in the microscopic Grove it needs to be vacuumed out, very important, thanks for watching

Hello thanks for stopping by glad you liked the video

If you check one of my more recent videos I talk about best cleaning solution ever I added another step it's even better thanks for watching my friend

hello I am sorry if my opinion is of no value to you to my subscribers it is. I have anothers opinion he is my friends Patrick the vinyl archivist. He has used 3 different ultrasonic cleaners and he cleans records every day he has concluded that a good washing with a brush, distilled water, photoflow or type product Makes water wetter (surfactant) i use dish soap. Then a vacuum, then a rinse, then a vacuum dry. Is the system that gets the best results for him. your mileage may vary. thanks for watching, sorry you did not enjoy the video

I changed my cleaning fluid and made a new video adding 1 tablespoon of ILFOTOL to a gallon of distilled water works better than just water the ILFOTOL breaks the waters surface tension enabling the water to actually get deep in the record grooves. I did a AB using a couple of records I cleaned using water, then re cleaning with ILFOTOL and now records sound much better more details. good luck Ron

you come off as very frustrated and pretty hostile honesty, should everyone feel sorry if you feel like you didn't get the exact info you where looking for served on a silver platter?

just bought a spin clean, taking my time to look into my options of cleaning with it before I actually do it. I've heard questionable stuff about the machines that uses cavitation to clean records, I think I've read that it causes damages on the grooves (the vinyl itself) in the long run. They are pretty expensive too so that makes me unsure to get one of those types. Other cleaning methods will also damage the records if misused i guess though..

You're right that you don't understand you have a higher-end system if you clean your records They sound better

I felt similarly after watching videos on the degritter and kirmuss ultrasonic cleaners. Those, no doubt, do ten times a better job than the devices talked about here. After watching videos on those, I thought, “everyone’s wasting their time on the cheap and inferior products! They don’t do anything!” Then I kept watching. While I’d say those superior cleaning/restoring machines are awesome and do a much better job, I even heard Mr. Kirmuss recommend a spin clean for a normal cleaning. If viewers have all the money and time in the world, yes, this video is a totally useless, but for those who can’t spend the 3k on the degritter, is it a waste to try these other options…. Hell no. The records won’t be improved like they will on the better ultrasonics, but the will audibly improve records. My argument is that your perspective is a bit narrow. When Mr. Kirmuss is selling his cavitation machine he points out how no other cleaning method or machine really works…. Yet in another context, he readily admits that other inferior cleaning systems make sense. I’ll one day own that guy’s machine, but I recognize the draw backs. It uses a lot of water quickly. The water can’t sit in the machine for a later cleaning, so stock way up of distilled water…. To do your whole collection, you’re going to need drums of it. You’ll also need ages of time. Trying to get the best in audio will bankrupt all of us. Luckily, you can get an incredible listening experience for much less. I believe that many cheaper cleaner methods can improve that experience…. Not as much as the expensive machines, but plenty enough to be worth their cost. Better is something that we must achieve to make buying these worth it. Not being perfect doesn’t make these methods worthless, though Kirmuss or the degritter people aren’t going to say that when they’re trying to move units.

@@N0rthT Mr. Kirmuss is very aggressive and dismissive towards virtually all other cleaning solutions that present any threat to his own. His story has been kind of a moving target and his device is reasonably priced and does work although it's a royal pain in the ass and consumes vast amounts of distilled water. I now use a KL Audio (Klaudio) supplemented by a gooe, not state of the art, vacuum machine by Pro-Ject. The Klaudio is obscenely expensive but works amazingly well and has a proven track record of having an extremely long life, unlike much of the feedback on the Degritter, which I've also owned.