Spite & Dork in the Road are Both WRONG About This Bike! | 701 Enduro or ADV?

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After watching Dork in the Road & Spites reactions to the 690 / 701 platform, I decided to hop on my 2016 Husqvarna 701 Enduro and tell the bike's story from my point of view. Hang on, it's going to be a wild ride!
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@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

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@marklanders630 3 месяца назад

I've come to the conclusion that every rider needs a dirt bike, a dual sport, an adventure bike, a street bike, a cruiser and a minivan and a truck & trailer to finally be happy.

@osimnod 3 месяца назад

I'd trade the minivan for a Class C motorhome ... about 23 feet long. You're self-contained with some conveniences and tow your dirt bike and dual sport to the Rally to enjoy the rides without being beat to death getting there.

@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC 3 месяца назад

Just set a rule that you take nothing over 400lbs off road. Problem solved. LOL Every single person looking for a dirt bike / dual sport that they can tour on will always be disappointed. Unless they don’t know any better. 😂

@gungadingo 3 месяца назад

And a snowmobile, a personal watercraft, a SxS (UTV), and a ski 3:19 boat.

@ridewherever 3 месяца назад

Correct lol

@airadaimagery692 3 месяца назад

And if you live near the water, a flat/Jon boat, a party barge, a speed boat, and a pleasure/fish & ski... That should cover all the bases...

@ChooseBrian 3 месяца назад

I only trust reviews from people that own them and ride them. Getting a press bike and making a vid doesn’t cut it for me personally. Solid video man.

@ne-adv Месяц назад

I agree. Seems like those two read the reviews for the bikes (Dork tends to really mimic Big Rock Moto), write the review, then find a bike they can ride once for video footage for the review. Seems the reviews are just ways to get a video out for the algorithm and product/advertising revenue. It's their 9-5 day job.

@Brad-RB 3 месяца назад

The maintenance intervals are a big reason that I bought my 701 over the EXC-F, 501, or the Honda CRF45OL. I did put a rally tower on mine.

@DorkintheRoad 3 месяца назад

I said it wasn't worth purchasing FOR ME. But...you knew that...get your clicks fellow Ben. ;)

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

You are not as a popular “influencer” as you think. Your idea of adventure riding is riding on flat dirt roads.

@DorkintheRoad 3 месяца назад

@@ogregang3203 So am I unpopular or a bad rider? Make up your mind. Imagine clicking on a video from a guy named "Dork in the Road" and being surprised that he sucks. Absolute genius.

@RyanWilson876 3 месяца назад

I mean I have no money to purchase either but if anybody has a 650L or a 701 they could give me for free, I'd greatly appreciate it.

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

@@DorkintheRoad Alright, you got me on that one 😂😂

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

🤣 Haha yeah, you caught me! Thanks for understanding Ben! I actually totally get your 1st reaction. I wish I'd have elaborated on this more, but I felt really uncomfortable on mine for a long time. There's just such a disconnect between the odd sound it makes and the amount of power going to the rear wheel. It was like learning to ride/shift all over again. I do really think you'd have liked it better if it was lowered a bit though. While I've never ridden a stock one, the improvements I noticed dropping my XR only 1" have to carry over and I'll bet that's partly why I like mine so much now. All that being said, it is just an over priced dual sport for guys like me who miss there stupid fast sport bikes 🤣. Take care and ride safe my friend!!!

@d-3five161 3 месяца назад

Well said! I own a 2023 701 Enduro with many tasty bolt ons as well as the Rottweiler Air Intake with a Power Commander and Wings Exhausts. The bike kick ass...

@docwyte 3 месяца назад

I've got a '17 690 with a Yenkro tower/fairing, Safari Tank, renazco seat, etc, etc. My 17 still has the full dash, which was something I really wanted. The fairing makes the bike easily capable of cruising at 80mph+. What almost all the reviewers miss on this bike is that it's NOT an adv bike, OR a dirt bike. It's a dual sport, and it does that really well. These are best bought used, after the previous owner has done all the farkles, then sold it because it wasn't the adv or dirt bike they expected. Then you get an amazing bike for short cash.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

100% agreed!!! Ugh, yeah I should have tried to find one with all that already done.

@docwyte 3 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions definitely. Bought mine 3 years old, completely built, with 1250 miles on it. He spent a ton of time and money building it, only to never ride it

@ndrew19 3 месяца назад

To each his own. I enjoy the reviews and opinions...but at times it seems like we're trying to debate what kind of music is "best"

@Gen-X.Adventures 3 месяца назад

I had a 690 (basically the same) it was an amazing bike! The bike is more wild than mild. It is certainly set up for performance instead of comfort. Some like it the other way. To each their own. In 2019, they added a counter balancer in the head to help with the harsh vibrations. The newer versions are definitely smoother.

@ianross225 3 месяца назад

I have a 2019 KTM 690 in the US with Nomad rally tower, bar risers, range extender tank and several other items that made a 4,200 mile ride a couple of weeks back superb. On and off road. At home in the UK I have a 2023 701 Enduro awaiting those same mods. Both engines are very smooth for the huge singles that they are. The power pulses from the 690 are way less smooth than the 701 which I believe is the difference in the cush drives which seems pretty limited on the KTM and softer cush rubbers and design of the 701. The bars on both have a tingling buzz over around 60mph and, for me, need bar damping. I’m no off-roader but the non road manners are excellent and the bikes are so light compared to the middleweight adventure bikes I’m used to, my KTM 890 no exception. Once the Husky is properly equipped the 890 will be moving on, great bike though it is. Just not for me. And that’s really the point. We all want different things and our priorities therefore dictate unless we have a bike for all eventualities (plus a trailer with each on hand). Sadly that lottery win never came. Enjoy your 701!!

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Well said! I'd sure like to get a rally tower on mine one of these days... perhaps I'll do that and just keep it 🤣. I definitely like it better off road than my old Tenere! So much more fun!

@traviscarter9300 3 месяца назад

It takes the right skills to appreciate this moto. They obviously don't have them. This bike is a beautiful thing. If you can't appreciate it, stick to the 300 crf's of the world. Put on your big boy pants to rally this thing. Proud owner of a 23 701. Yes, it needs to be tweaked and set-up for your body and riding style, but once you get there.... it's a beautiful thing. I also own a 1290 sas for touring. This is not a touring bike no matter what people say. It's just not, but for day tripping in the dirt. Nothing compares.

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

AWESOME COMBO !!!!!!! i did have at one time a 450EXC and an 1190r but currently only 1 bike a well set up husky 901 , i do miss the 1190 on the highway and the 450 sometimes off road bu

@karicallegra8194 3 месяца назад

Nailed it. My current fleet is the 23 500 EXC-F for Off-roading, short trips, 23 690 SMC-R for track/twisties, and 23 1290 SAS for long hauls and BDRs. Gotta get the right tool for the job, or you will always be complaining about compromises!

@javi___ 3 месяца назад

Is it you or your ego that needs to ride this bike? If you like it then good for you, no one needs to tell others what to ride or call them names. And rally? No you can't cut off is at 450 sorry

@HankRearden 3 месяца назад

Few people own the 690/701 long term.they’ll tell you how great they are but the wear owners down. Hot potato bike if there ever was one.

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

@@HankRearden that is not my experience nor the experiences of any actual owners ive met honestly and ive met quite a few..... i might just be lucky i guess ? well and only meet other lucky people ?

@billysharp2242 3 месяца назад

I have a heavily modified 22' KLR adventure and i love it.. i wish it had a bit more power and a 6th gear but, i wish i was 6'2" and 215 but im not 😂 its fine for what it is and i love the way i made it look.. enjoy your toy!!

@AdvTechMoto 3 месяца назад

11k miles on my 701 with about every upgrade you can do, and it's an absolute weapon. In stock form definitely needed a few things to meet peoples expectations. I was a little surprised by dork's review, but I think the 690/701 deserves more time on the bike to really appreciate it, especially on more off-road terrain.

@tezz4480 3 месяца назад

Ditto - I love my ‘21 701 and have pretty much every mod you can do to one. I first rode a ‘19 and was off put by the 2x4 seat and tallness coming from a 990. That ‘19 had fueling problems but the dealer let me ride it enough that it grew on me. I found a new ‘21 and built from there. 10k miles later still happy with it.

@MotoCampNerd 3 месяца назад

Almost every response I've seen is that it's not really the best out the door option, but after all the mods to make it yours, it's a great bike. I've had one on my list for a while. Still want one.

@AdvTechMoto 3 месяца назад

@MotoCampNerd agree. Although I just rode my buddies new 2024 690 and I forgot how light a stock one feels! But that stock seat....absolutely awful!

@Merc399 3 месяца назад

yo what year is it? 2018 has a recall for the camshaft decompressors mine just shot out of my engine on the highway im lucky the weight and spring shot out of the engine it still runs perfect waiting on the replacement decompression kit

@AdvTechMoto 3 месяца назад

@@Merc399 yep! Same here. I have a few videos on my channel. It had the recall done but still happened and had to replace the camshaft assembly.

@secondarymachine7521 3 месяца назад

Nice! More 701 content. I already commented on Dorks video. I think he'd really like the 690 if he put a few hundred miles on it. Took me a bit to really "get" my 701..

@chiptaxfree 3 месяца назад

You are absolutely spot-on with your analysis! I got about 13,000 mi on this platform. Between three different 690s.

@MotoVania 3 месяца назад

You know, with a Honda or Yamaha you could put that many miles on a single bike 😆

@waynejohnston3596 3 месяца назад

Your getting bigger man you are doing so well now man congrats.

@spitescorner 3 месяца назад

Hey man, love your work. I actually watched a ton of your KLR stuff when I was thinking about getting my Gen 3. I do want to elaborate on a few points, though. I'm actually on my 2nd 690, I owned an SMCR, and now the Enduro R. I bought the bike for like $1500 off MSRP since its a year old. I totally get the mods thing, but i dont think that excuses KTM from charging $13K for a new bike you *have* to mod when they have LED blinkers, a better dash, and hard plastic grips already on the shelves at the factory. Also, the moron point was due to the fact that I bought at what I expect to be the end of a generational life cycle. With the Ducati Mono dual sport all but confirmed with all the stuff the KTM needs for less cash (I assume based on the sumo price), KTM is going to be forced to upgrade. Oh and my cases started leaking with 80 miles on the clock 😂 Keep the manual. Still love the bike though. Great video. 👍

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Wow, thanks man! I really appreciate that!!! I'm a little embarrassed to admit I didn't realize the SMCR was a sumo 690 😅 for some reason I thought you were taking about a 610 or something. In regards to the lights and handguards, I totally agree that it's ridiculous that manufacturers put such junky equipment on bikes. I've just given up on caring for my own sanity 🤣. The dash is just ridiculous though! It'll be interesting to see what happens with the platform after a few other options hit the market, but my guess is KTM/Husky will still sell overpriced, over powered dual sports for lunatics like us! 😂. Ride safe and often brother!!!

@spitescorner 3 месяца назад

@SwankyCatProductions hopefully with new competition they'll at least figure out the torque specs for their cases and keep the oil inside 🤣, but man do I love this dumb bike

@diggy-d8w 3 месяца назад

You ride what cha ride & it's you deciding what YOUR want/needs are, then ya, "Just Do It " ! At the stage I'm at in life I can't afford the Husqvarna/KTM's but I would want them for the maintenance requirements. Some of the top end checks are too often & expensive for my situation plus you gotta be without while the dealer does whatEVER it is that they do. I do think they are tough bikes, good looking & strong motors but it wasn't mine to decide.... Enjoy it. peace

@michaellloyd7940 3 месяца назад

I own a 2022 KTM 690 enduro r, and it is absolutely a blast to ride! I'm not sure what Dork in the road was expecting? The newer 690s don't vibrate any more or less than any other big single cylinder motorcycles! Once the 690/701 is tuned properly they run absolutely Phenomenal! I've redden my 690 on many different off road adventures including many parts of the Oregon BDR, it's the bike I choose to use on most of my off road adventures. With that said it's not bike for beginners or for very technical single track, but for most off-road riding the 690/701 platform is a great option for a big dual sport motorcycle. I also own 2023 T7 and it also works very well for it designed too do, but it's no where close to the off-road capabilities of the 690/701 platform. To each their own. Everyone who rides a motorcycle should ride whatever bike they feel comfortable with. This is just my opinion.

@brianrahuba6919 3 месяца назад

It's all the tinkering those bikes need .

@mikeisland7382 3 месяца назад

I could see the 690/701's selling a lot better if they came with a bigger tank and bigger seat. Great bike but it just sucks to have to throw cash at an already pricey bike.

@DiveTrainerDan 3 месяца назад

I'm still waiting for a CRF500 rally. I think the Husky/KTM 700ish is just made for a very specific purpose unlike a lot of other bikes that have a more all around use. There is also the point of how many people will actually use enough of the power to make a difference between the 700s and all other cheaper dual sports/ADV bikes.

@georgeferguson9779 3 месяца назад

I’m glad you posted this. Dork in the Road usually does a good job. But, he rushed getting out his “impression” video without considering several things. The 690 is a bike designed by its manufacturer with expectations that it will be customized by the buyers. There’s no reason to make it more expensive with parts that are just going to be customized later. Dork in the Road should do an actual review on one that has been customized to do the type of riding he’d use the bike for.

@georgemorissette8856 3 месяца назад

👍🏻👊🏻 I have a 701 SM and a 701 Enduro , along with 5 other bikes. 701s and 690s are my favorite.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Nice!!!

@RandomGRK 3 месяца назад

Dork thought it was going to easily carry him three hours down the freeway in complete comfort which is an unrealistic expectation. He realized it really is just a thumper with a ton of power.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

I think it all too often gets talked up like it's this awesome adventure machine and while it certainly is, it is NOT an adventure bike.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 месяца назад

I had the early version (LC4 640) I have always loved this platform. For me its a KTm that breaks the mold of KTM dual sports in having great service intervals and solid reliability.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Nice! Yeah I definitely like that part of it! Has longer valve check intervals than my XR!

@1wheeldrive751 3 месяца назад

I had a 2020 FE501, that I bought used with 225 miles on it. I tried to like it, but it was too much of a dirt bike. Engine response was very twitchy, and it was not good at all on the road. Sold it for more than I had into it and bought my current 2021 701 Enduro. The noise the engine makes doesn’t bother me in the least, but I always wear ear plugs when riding. I did put a fuel dongle on that keeps the 02 sensor but makes the bike run a little richer. With that and otherwise stock intake, exhaust and gearing, the bike runs great for me. I value the quietness of the exhaust more than I would another HP or two. I did not like the stock WP xplor forks. They were too harsh on smaller bumps and too weak on bigger ones. To fix that, I bought two adjustable base valves from earlier KTMs with normal Open Cartridge forks, and the necessary stock parts to make the left leg damper internals identical to the right one, which is a normal mid-valve with a rebound damping stack and a compression damping stack with float. I also replaced the left side damper’s hydraulic stop cone with one from the right side that doesn’t have the holes drilled in it. All of these parts cost me about $150, plus my own free labor, but now the forks work well, as they should have from the factory. Next up is addressing the shock. Is the 701 perfect for everyone? Of course not. All bikes need customizing to the owner. But, in my opinion, the 701 enduro it is the best, most capable, true dual-sport, light adventure bike you can buy, and believe me I have ridden a lot of them.

@dirtdad8478 3 месяца назад

I spent some time on a 2017 690R. I loved the power of the bike! I ended up riding that bike more off road in the desert than dual sporting. I took it on a 500 mile d/s ride and I did not like it. Mostly just because of comfort on long stretches of hwy. I found the seat to be fine. Just the wind mostly. I am pretty sure I had the wrong helmet on that ride, which made it pretty bad with the wind. I ride dirt bikes mostly so it felt like a huge dirt bike to me. It could climb some pretty impressive hills. I wish that I could put this motor in my 23 KLR. That would be my unicorn. I agree about having a several motorcycles. I am currently using my 23 WR450F as my dual sport. It pretty much replaced my 690. I would not mind having another 690/701 in the garage though.

@habibi750 3 месяца назад

How much is your bike lowered?

@bryand2978 3 месяца назад

You have the 2016, which does not have the counter balancer, sorry bro. The new motor with that option was in 2017, so that bike will have much less vibration.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yeah, that's why I was so surprised that they still said the newer ones vibrate so much.

@doswoods653 19 дней назад

You could write many many books FULL of stuff Spite is WRONG about. Least deserving moto-content creator out there.

@retiredwaterdoctor 3 месяца назад

No swiss army knife bike out there......I really like a test that says ....for me, or my riding preference, or my riding style....those are the true test because my riding is different than yours. Keep the honest content coming. Garth

@kirkmulhearn7931 3 месяца назад

Really enjoy your honesty and transparency-great reporting….again

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Thank you!!!

@flamepygmy 2 месяца назад

My previous bike was DRZ-400S. Moving back to Europe soon and planning on getting the KTM 690 Enduro R for the similar reasons what you said. Looking to get something that is still somewhat on the same ballpark with the DRZ-400S in weight (not 200kg+ behemoth), that would be OK for some longer adventures, but is also not a total slouch off-road/on trails. There is no perfect bike for all conditions, so you have to compromise. I would personally prefer to have something with a bit less weight, but the added weight vs. DRZ is not that huge I would think. I was thinking also about EXC 500, but the service intervals etc. scared me off from that. CRF-300L Rally might also be an option, but by the time you've fixed the suspension etc. you've spent also quite a bit off money for something that weighs in the same ballpark, but doesn't have all the modern goodies.

@Trumplican 3 месяца назад

Husqvarna doesnt mess around all of their bikes going back decades are top of the line as well as KTM which this bike pretty much is.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yeah, they're definitely much more performance minded than the Japanese bikes!

@orionswitness 2 месяца назад

Ironically on your test route , I think my Versys 650 would have been in its element . Would have liked to see how this supposed off road weapon handled serious stuff.😊

@SwankyCatProductions 2 месяца назад

On this ride? Or my dual sport test circuit? Either way I'd definitely agree, a Versys would definitely have gotten the job done. Here though, I'd take the 701 any day! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PzWAKdNUOwY.html

@billscott1601 2 месяца назад

Hardly experts in the field, ride what you want.

@123dwd 3 месяца назад

Spite said HE was the moron for loving such a stripped down expensive bike; it was for clickbait and now getting taken out of context

@spitescorner 3 месяца назад

I mean, I am a moron 😂. I decided to buy a 72K mile vmax for $700 because I hate myself apparently lol.

@OffTheBeatenPage 3 месяца назад

I think it's pretty obvious this title is also just for clicks and there's no actual hard feelings from anyone

@spitescorner 3 месяца назад

@OffTheBeatenPage I mean, maybe it's a little attention grabbing, but it's how I feel about the bike after I bought it. I like it, but with updates definitely coming in the next few years buying one new doesn't make any sense.

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

@@spitescorner if so than so am i , one happy moron that is

@insatiable_mind 3 месяца назад

Price is the main obstacle to me even looking at a husky or ktm. Twice the power for twice the cash compared to Japanese thumpers just doesn’t fit in my life right now.

@rigger99-eo4zo 3 месяца назад

i own a 2023 701 it is perfect for what is intended for 50 miles of highway all day on off road and single track it is exceptional . if there is something better please tell me ,

@heynow3788 3 месяца назад

I agree. If I had some extra money laying around, I would definitely buy a 701. Light enough for moderate off roading, powerful enough for the street, optional passenger pegs... Great all around bike. It's a huge single. It's going to vibrate so people should get over it.

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

lol at “moderate off-roading”. I’ve seen people shred on 500 pound bikes. It’s more about rider skill. You sound silly.

@heynow3788 3 месяца назад

@@ogregang3203 I sound silly? I've seen people do lots of things too. I was talking about what I would do with it. I have a dirt bike that I use for woods and single track riding. That's not really what a 701 is for. Can some do that stuff with it? Sure. Can I? No. If you can, good for you. Not sure why you're busting my balls about a comment that I made because I have an opinion about something.

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

@@heynow3788 lol ok fine, sorry about busting your balls. 😂

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Well said!

@billcotton1551 3 месяца назад

My friend was considering one of these, a leftover 2023, but ended up getting a new DR650. I thought I might get a shot to try riding one.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

The DR makes waaay more sense. The 701 is just too much fun though 😂

@bk6271 3 месяца назад

I don’t know what to do. I have a 23 701 and your right 60mph is the sweet spot really on road. But off road this thing is just too much. I’m thinking 350s. 60 mph on road and can do single track

@thomkane9478 3 месяца назад

I don’t mind my 690 And for me has been that “unicorn”

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Nice!

@modzso2 3 месяца назад

I have test rode '21 701 and an AJP PR7. I picked the AJP. Since I was really beginner in '21, not really sure why, (except the engine sound, stock seat, etc). The PR7 seemed more beginner friendly.

@osimnod 3 месяца назад

It's inherently unfair to compare a thumper to a multi-cylinder bike. You trade weight savings for on-road comfort. I have a 2000 KLX 300R and a 2006 KTM 640 Adventure -- the KLX motor is smoother but I wouldn't be inclined to undertake a BDR on it. The 640 Adventure will do a BDR nicely and, since 80%+ of BDRs are off-road, you don't notice the vibrations between the trail surface and the bike - which has great suspension, brakes, chassis and 7.5 gallons of fuel slung low. Since I'm not a YT influencer, I don't need to have the newest rig. BTW, I'm 5-9, 175 pounds and 66 years young.

@mikethemaniac1 3 месяца назад

I've come to the conclusion that we all have different preferences. And also that no matter what bike you buy you will be, in SOME FASHION, left wanting.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

100% agree!

@fluffycat087 Месяц назад

This is the unicorn ADV hidden in plain sight. You can't define them by number of cylinders. The latest versions of this bike have very little vibes due to the dual balancers, gobs of power everywhere and sips gas if ridden conservatively. Put a shorty screen on it , change saddle if arse demands it, go ride everything.

@markchalloner5883 3 месяца назад

It wasn't worth buying FOR THEM! Not every person wants or needs the same bike. What works for one persons riding style, terrain and ability might not be a good fit for someone else.

@jasonhumphries6131 25 дней назад

For those roads a GS is all you need :)

@angellmarrero8326 3 месяца назад

I always though these 690/701 were unicorns, the perfect do it all bikes, but in a world where you can get a great used 390 adv for 5k or less.....that will tackle highways, offroad, singletrack nicely, fun to ride, lightweight, I cant seem to justify a 13k+ dual sport just because I want "more power". I also have a 2022 Beta 300 2T and a 2023 300 XCw, I guess because I already have great fast enduro bikes, I dont see the need for a crazy dual sport.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yeah it's definitely sort of an odd duck amongst the other bikes out there. It's really just a faster version of the other two bikes I've got now, the DR and XR which certainly don't make sense for everyone, but do filt the needs of guys like me.

@ogasi1798 3 месяца назад

It's a large freakin dirt bike end of story, anyone who doesn't grasp that needs a head wobble FTR it was never conceived to be an 'adventure bike' , although if arguing semantics we would say that any bike capable of travel is capable of being an adv. Personally i would rather suffer a little on road than suffer a lot off road which is why i choose dirtbikes with road capabilities

@aaronwaderides7209 3 месяца назад

Honestly I think this is the only bike you should be riding 😊

@MotoVania 3 месяца назад

Honestly just makes me wish Honda would finally make a modern version of the 650, XR700L water cooled with EFI

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Ugh, I KNOW!

@BlazinBlades 3 месяца назад

It’s not for everyone You have to be in pretty good shape and experienced enough to enjoy it🍻🍻

@airadaimagery692 3 месяца назад

Lmao! Just because I choose not to, doesn’t mean I can’t!

@drzrider3440 3 месяца назад

Oh and by the way. I have 30 inch inseam and lowered mine at about 1500miles on it. Now with 54,000 miles on it, i have had zero issues with it. I vote to lower. People taht argue over it dont really makes sense. They say it effects the suspension....well yes. Thats true, it effects it about the same as running an empty gas tank versus a full has tank. With gear on board and no gear onboard. Two up or one up. Literally not one motorcycle is perfect suspension every time you ride it. Way more argument for it than against it. Therr is a reason its a multi-million dollar per year industry. It works.

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

How much did you lower it? How much did it cost? I have the same inseam and want to lower mine

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Nice!!! That's some awesome data! Thank you! 100%, if you don't need the extra ground clearance, LOWER IS BETTER! It's not a mud truck, it's a motorcycle!

@hardworkingamerican8847 3 месяца назад

Amen to that , go and get outdoors .

@drzrider3440 3 месяца назад

Check out my DRZ build. Its about as advernturey as you can get with a DRZ. Im about your build as well but older, more miles in seats. Been riding street since i was 14 years old. Im 54 now. Hard to believ over my lifetime of riding everything from crotch rockets to cruisers....my DRZ400 is my all time fav. Ungodly reliable. Will cruise at 80 mph all day with correct sprockets or do single track with the best of them with correct sprockets. If you want to spend little more, pay for a fishersaddlebags seat. Best seat for dual sports. All custom made up to a foot wide, thick or thin, foam density to match your weight and riding style. I still need one of those seats. But yeah. For some a 700ish cc dual sport is perfect. Some a GS1300 is perfect. So far. 54,000 miles with pretty much zero issues. The DRZ is my perfect bike. There is literally nothing but 2-up, that it cant do. I have ridden it on the freeway homw from Salt Lake City to north of Seattle, WA. 80mph passing semi trucks. All loaded to the gills. Have done WABDR. IDAHO BDR 2 times and about to run it this summer with my DRZ and my buddies new 2023 DRZ400SM. Videos to follow.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

NICE! I'll have to get back on a DRZ at some point. I was so new to dirt riding when I got mine back in the day that I feel like I owe it a revisit!

@clayfarnet970 3 месяца назад

Nice thorough review. Keep it up…literally. 👍

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Thanks man! Will do!

@Eds_PanAm 3 месяца назад

Keep it man! Of course i'm biased and not a youtuber lol but theres not alot out there on the 690/701/700 bikes, theres some though......dork's just upset honda didn't make that bike 😂

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Haha yeah I don't think I'm going to be able to let it go 🤣

@cliff1551 3 месяца назад

0:48 dork in the road can't ride anything without a tank on the front coz he's got nothing to put his big belly on 😂😂😂😂😂 👋🤠👍 I ride a LR model with 733 cc kit on ,,and as spider man's uncle said with great power comes big responsibility,more power ,easy to ride ,check out Lyndon poskitt racing for the kit 733 one that is 👋🤠👍

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

ohh i thought really really hard about buying the 701'LR' and doing an Adventure bike build off of it before i bought the 901 i have now !! and when off road i still sometimes wish i had . ive read all about Lyndon Poskitt and his BAD ASS race bikes and motors !! id coinsider one of those a holey grail bike

@kurtsunderbruch4711 3 месяца назад

The real question here is why give any credence at all to what those guys say? It appears that the value proposition for both channels is ignorance rather than expertise. I've seen both those guys be substantially wrong about bikes with which I have personal experience. There are plenty of RU-vid presenters who have real expertise. These two are best ignored.

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

Agreed!

@spitescorner 3 месяца назад

I mean, I have ridden over a hundred different bikes... I'm not the best, but I know what I like, and I love *MY* 690. Very important detail. I own mine. It's my second one too.

@Phillip_of_Burns 3 месяца назад

@swanky cat did the handlebar risers add vibration? I've heard that they do.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Possibly, but not enough that it ever crossed my mind.

@Phillip_of_Burns 3 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions Cool. I'm a big guy, think I might try those risers. Appreciate the reply.

@notgamingwithmax 3 месяца назад

Being an owner of a 23 ES 700, I actually agree with the dork on this one. Don't get me wrong, it's a fun hooligan bike, the motor is awesome. But, for me, the ergos suck. Takes all the fun out of off-road. But that's just my opinion.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yeah, it's definitely not the most comfy thing on the road. Fun though! Haha.

@jkmarshall3553 3 месяца назад

You've got some great roads for riding up there!!!

@rogerbean393 13 дней назад

Where in the USA are you ? There’s no one around All those open roads !

@ggs0605 3 месяца назад

As a Dork defender, you are way younger and lighter and maybe a better rider! The wheelie at the beginning shows me that this bike is for you. At Dorks age and skill level, it’s not for him. At 65, it is probably too much for me too!

@likkitongue 3 месяца назад

Have a 701 SM that I don't think I will ever sell. There's nothing in it's league besides maybe the new Ducati or a road legal YZ. It's definitely not an Adventure bike. But I am a MORON.

@ArcticJeff 3 месяца назад

A CRF450L? If you think your XR650 has a small tank. Wait till you see how small the tank is on the CRF450L!

@whoscook4481 3 месяца назад

The dork said more bike than he needed in a dual sport.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yep, and it certainly is. Still fun though. I was just giving him crap, no hard feelings between us.

@John-sn4hl 3 месяца назад

How do you afford all of these?

@SwankyCatProductions 2 месяца назад

It's not too hard, I just don't spend money on anything else 🤣.

@larryhosek6554 3 месяца назад

That's funny you say it doesn't have Japanese quality I went from a 701 to a Yamaha tenrey and I thought the same thing But the other way around.

@timlubbers2884 3 месяца назад

🤔 g650gs sertao … Himalayan … crf300 rally … klr650 … All out of the box are great adv bikes … 🤷🏻‍♂️

@arcadegamesify 3 месяца назад

I've owned a ktm, and have ridden japanese bikes... Now i'm in the market for a japanese bike. One paper, the euro bikes are better. Better power, lighter weight, more sexy. But idk, japanese bikes just feel like solid machines and get the basics perfect. There's something about my dad's yamaha that simply feels better to me than my ktm. They've nailed everything that makes a bike feel good but isn't sexy on a spec sheet.

@Vahu19 2 месяца назад

if you don't USE that suspension then the bike doesn't make sense. anything it does the Tuareg does better (with the exception of jumps) for 30% cheeper

@SwankyCatProductions 2 месяца назад

Mmm yeah, if your focus is longer adventures. For more difficult off road trails and single track, I'd take the 701 any day.

@TheJumpn 3 месяца назад

I have to say that the flickering transitions and flickering captions are distracting to me, like a fly buzzing by your face. I wish you wouldn't use those. Thank you.

@Jlk-rm1jv 3 месяца назад

God, yeah, fully agree.

@IRLtrolls 22 дня назад

I finally agree with yammie on something. The 701 is dog shit and its highly unreliable

@jkmarshall3553 3 месяца назад

Nope... nothing wrong with lowering the seat height. I've done it on all my past bikes, and my current KTM enduro and I'm over 6' and 185lbs. It allows me to finesse the bike so much easier on tight single track when the seat is lowered. And as far as standing up and down on the bike, my legs are strong enough to not feel the 2 inch difference. I really don't get why the "purist" look down at a lower seat height. Makes no sense.

@airadaimagery692 3 месяца назад

So what you’re saying is, that all of the designers of each of these bikes used their engineering skills to formulate the geometry on each of these bikes to the perfect specs. but got it wrong on all of them? Interesting...

@miro_s 3 месяца назад

not worth getting worked up, it’s obvious that for them this is not a bike worth buying: they are roads or at most some gravel, flat motorways that they call offroad, of course they are happier on a Vstrom, a tiger, a 901 or even a GS…

@thefathippy 3 месяца назад

The clones aren't like typical adv bikes. And that's their appeal. 🤷

@MrYz250fman Месяц назад

The only people that I have seen complain about the 690 are obviously very soft people. If you buy a giant dirt bike, its going to handle and feel like a giant dirt bike. People buy them and expect them to float like a cruiser. Its not gunna happen. If you dont ride like a pu$$y and you want an enduro, this is the one.

@D73GT 3 месяца назад

It's not really fair to compare a Husqvarna with 11 more cc's to a KTM 690.

@lesterroberts4787 3 месяца назад

Actually the 690 has a couple more CCs than the 701.

@Menz890 18 дней назад

There are very few so called “reviewers or influencers” whatever you wanna call them that have the knowledge and skill to give a legitimate motorcycle review. RU-vid has been flooded with channels run by mediocre riders that love to see their face and listen to themselves talk all while sponging off their subscribers. Dork in the road and big rock moto come to mind. I’m sure they are fine people but they should stick to riding and camping gear reviews.

@SwankyCatProductions 17 дней назад

I understand what you're saying, but I think I'd have to disagree. Dork in the Road and Big Rock Moto are both pretty upfront about their skill level, and while it would certainly be more helpful for above average riders to hear what other above average riders think, especially about bikes like the 701. I think it's safe to assume the majority of dual sport riders who are looking for others opinions, are probably also around their same skill level. I'm certainly no expert myself, but I have noticed that there's a lot less interest in videos where I'm pushing the limits on bigger bikes like the 701, on single track or in the snow. Especially in comparison to videos like this one where I'm just out on the road talking specs and features.

@coltonowens2742 3 месяца назад

I've just got no interest in this mythical "do everything" bike. Ya miss out on two strokes if your trying to have just one bike to do everything. Up the bike count to two, and now you can cover just about everything really well.

@OffTheBeatenPage 3 месяца назад

Up the count to two?

@joshuaroe3021 3 месяца назад

Wow, I just watched spites review and had already watched dorks. You completely mischaracterized both of their videos and did not even add anything to what they said. Click bait bs.

@OffTheBeatenPage 3 месяца назад

And what value have you added?

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Yep, I was teasing them and they totally understood that. What I added was my personal opinion of the bike. Said they both would be able to appreciate it more if they had the right tires, a lower center of gravity, expected it to be a dual sport rather than an adv bike and also completely agreed with them on several points. Check the other owners comments, they seem to agree with me.

@poweredbyrice5708 3 месяца назад

If money is no issue I could see that being a great choice although I would just get a Tenere or Transalp with upgraded suspension ....KTM does make unreliable bikes as a whole though lol

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

what ktm/husky models have you owned with how many miles when they had problems ?? what problems did you experience ??

@poweredbyrice5708 3 месяца назад

@@justsomedude445 Friends have had the 690 among others including dirtbikes.....just a long list of electrical and mechanical issues.....very high maintenance compared to a Japanese bike of any kind. Just really no point in owning one when there are better built options out there unless you can afford having it just to be different.

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

@@poweredbyrice5708 so you never have personally owned one and cant even state the specific issues your 'friends' presumable had ? of course a bike with half of the HP is going to be lower maintenance !! LoLoL alot of my fellow motorcyclist crack me up , no car guy have ever traded in a 150hp Honda Civic for a 500Hp Corvette Mustang Charger 911 or whatever and then turned around and bitched and moaned about higher running cost but that is exactly what some (supposed) motorcyclist do ?? i find it really odd that soooo many do his

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

@@poweredbyrice5708 double the hp and performance by every measure , i rode a 640 for 17000miles then a 990 for 36000miles then a 1090r for 32000 miles and now a 901 for 14000miles so far without issue id blame on the bike , thats not counting all the dirt bikes

@poweredbyrice5708 3 месяца назад

@@justsomedude445 You can get triggered if you like, but a T7 or Transalp cost about the same with none of those issues I don't have to make a list because you ask me too random commenter lol

@joshuaroe3021 3 месяца назад

Not what dork said.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

I'm assuming you typed this before I said "all joking aside"?

@danstevens2204 3 месяца назад

I prefer the videos when you would go riding instead of banging on about some ktm shitheap. More stank than swank 👍🏻

@HankRearden 3 месяца назад

690/701 are ride killers. Total POS. Close ratio trans, massive turning radius, vibrations out the ass, tall, over sprung, terrible erogs.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Can't say I disagree, but that's really not any different than any of the other bikes I've owned. This one just has more power 🤣

@danmatthews4803 Месяц назад

The glitchy transitions are annoying.

@SwankyCatProductions Месяц назад

Noted. Thank you!

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

same HP as a Tenere 700 and 120+ pounds lighter with ten times better quality suspension .................. they are both off their rockers , never could watch yammy channel found it cringy and fact free nonsense , Dork on the road i followed for several years but i am no longer his desired audience after the big change a little while back

@MaxwellBenson80 3 месяца назад

What was the big change?

@brianrahuba6919 3 месяца назад

Sorry, if you ain't gonna make it into a super moto the 690/701 why ? When the Husky 350 is better all around. It's lighter and has great power !!! I know what I buy . Screw the highway 🛣. I'll take all the routes . If I do jump on a highway it be only a couple of exits . Or better get a KTM 390 is a screamer . You just know what kinda of riding you want to do . I like smaller bikes. I did the Harley thing for yrs . Now I want something playful . And to be honest, it's hard to beat my DR350s . This stupid little bike came with a 6speed in 1990 !!!! It will make a great BDR bike . It's alright on the street, but it shines in the woods . It really does . It's no dirt bike . But I can jump a 2 foot log . Well, not air, bourne . But wheelie over crash plate time till the rear wheel pushes me over . It's just a great bike . But I'm digging the Honda . I won't lower mine, though . It's just a tad higher than a DRZ . Especially when we go into trenches, keep my feet a little higher, so if I do go over, there is a lesser chance of getting caught between the bike and whatever objects that await us, lol lol lol . Ouch. Even my DR puts me on my toes . 6ft at 255ish 32 inseam . If you lived mid west, sure . I live in the N.E. where I live nothing but private property or state land or deer runs . Single track 70% . N.Y. and Mass are nice sorry I'm just ranting o.m.g. lol 😆 🤣

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

I definitely get that! My 701 is sort of a triple sport for me though I suppose. I appreciate the modest weight and dirt skills it has and do enjoy the high speed comfort, but I think what I like the most is the near sport bike acceleration. I don't actually want my 600RR back, but it's still nice to twist the throttle and recall the feeling!

@Phillip_of_Burns 3 месяца назад

Rode my 701 from MN to West Virginia, then rode the eastern part of the tat. Turned for home down in Corinth Mississippi. Quiet backroads, dirt roads, forest roads, rocky hills, water crossings, 900+ miles of freeway, the bike handles everything.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Sounds like an awesome adventure!

@IRLtrolls 22 дня назад

A lot of bikes can do that. What's your point? Can the 701 do that every summer for the next 10 or 15 years?

@THX5000 3 месяца назад

I own a 701. I am a moron. I wanted to buy a Tenere 700 at the time but I couldn't find one. The 701 has been fun!

@MaxwellBenson80 3 месяца назад

I own a t7 and love it. I want a 701 also. I think they are badass

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

you got a 120 pound lighter bike with the same horsepower and ten times better stock suspension than a T7 !! well done

@blade1535 3 месяца назад

T7 is boring. Styling is awesome but otherwise doesn’t feel like it has much soul to me. Boring power delivery and average suspension. I had one for a couple of years. Would love to get a 701.

@justsomedude445 3 месяца назад

@@blade1535 i wanted really really bad to like the tenere 700 , i imagined aftermarket suspension aftermarket brake upgrades this and that but no matter how much money you throw at it your never going to change the fact that it weighs the same as an 890 but only 72hp and top heavy feel

@Gen-X.Adventures Месяц назад

Very true! My 890 suspension is far better than my T7 suspension was even after new springs and race tech gold valves @justsomedude445

@arkansasoutdoorschannel1867 3 месяца назад

I dont have a dog in this fight. I bought the 501s and I LOVE IT. It does vibrate and mine sounds like a box of rocks too.

@HankRearden 3 месяца назад

Way more vibes on the 701 than 500.

@Michael_Shay 3 месяца назад

As a 701 owner I agree with a lot of what you've said. I haven't lowered mine or ridden a lowered one but I feel comfortable and confident on it, even in corners. I do agree with the consensus that this bike can be a tough sell. The price new + the cost of all the upgrades make it hard to justify. I got an insanely good deal on a used one which is the only reason why I can afford one. I think that this bike is the unicorn platform. I'm not gonna call it the unicorn bike but I do think it's currently the best foundation to build a unicorn.

@airadaimagery692 3 месяца назад

I find it so comical the comments that say that OBVIOUSLY, the people who dislike this bike are those who don’t have the skill to ride it! Lol, their way of thinking couldn’t be any more flawed! Coming from someone who raced the 125/250/500 class MX bikes from the 80’s and 90’s, which were all 2 stroke for me, I stopped racing around the time of the new technology in 4 strokes were introduced to the game, there is no bike that I can’t ride, and put through its paces! I’m not saying I can jump on any bike and dominate it, because it just doesn’t work like that, but at 51, I just choose not to ride a bike that feels like a box of rocks on an everyday basis. ! I would challenge any of these fools with their flawed mindset to a couple of rounds on the MX track, on the bike of their choice, and then we’ll see who’s lacking in experience and skill!

@ogregang3203 3 месяца назад

Exactly. I’ve see guys shred on 500 pound bikes. It’s more skill than bike. Period

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

True. Bikes are only "fast" on a straight away. Just about everything else is the rider. I just like this bike because it reminds me of when I had a sport bike 🤣

@bradleyalexander5821 3 месяца назад

To each their own. Obviously this is an outstanding bike for you, the enthusiasm is epic. I’m only interested in people with passion for their bike. Perhaps those blokes are a bit wide sweeping in their disparaging comments.

@davidl546 3 месяца назад

Everyone has different likes, expectations, needs and wants of a motorcycle. What fits one person may not fit another. Much like the old bikes I have and ride, some people like the vintage bike while others want the modern cruiser, sport bike, adv, dual sport, etc. I think the 701 is cool, just haven't ridden one. Used to ride my dad's 83' Husqvarna wr250 in the woods. What a good dirt bike that was. I keep eyeballing the Norden though, I might have to get one.

@elwood62 3 месяца назад

I think you make valid points. You seem to think deeply about the nuances of riding and your musings remind me of Zack Courts’. His philosophical ramblings about the intricacies of riding are much more entertaining than whatever bike he happens to be on. I agree that are no bad motorcycles, but sometimes they do need a little help to realize their full potential. The XR is pretty badass lowered btw.

@SwankyCatProductions 3 месяца назад

Thank you!!! I certainly do like overthinking things, but sometimes that really comes in handy! Dual sports especially seem to always need a few things to make them fit. I never thought lowering would be one of them, but man I like my XR so much more now! Even looks cooler I think!

@shanebrown2963 3 месяца назад

I just got a 2021 690 enduro r from a gentleman that had some circumstances come up and had to sell it. I’ve put about a 100 miles on it and am not disappointed at all! He did put several mods on it. I did order a lowering link for my short ass and some wheel weights so I can balance the tires for road running. He did put dampening handle bar risers on it and I have ZERO vibrations in the bars even running 70 with 80/20 tires on it. I was impressed. I’ll be putting under seat fuel tank on it, rage garage tower and the bike will be complete. I’m used to riding a street bike for the last 9 years with no windscreen so riding 65 doesn’t bother me one bit on the 690. They complain about putting mods on the bike but who buys a bike and doesn’t mod it?!

@brianrahuba6919 3 месяца назад

More than you think !