The Big Bore Dual Sport You've Never Considered | 701 vs DR & XR650L

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After testing the XR650L & DR650 a few days ago, I decided to hop on my 2016 Husqvarna 701 Enduro to see how it stacks up against it's legendary predecessors.
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@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

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@elwood62 4 месяца назад

I’ve never considered one because of price alone. If I was going to spend that much it would be for a slightly used Africa Twin.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Ha-ha. Yeah, it's definitely a lot of money for a "fancy" dual sport. Sure is fun though 😂

@estebanod 4 месяца назад

Completely different bikes, and used ones can go down to 6-7k

@elwood62 4 месяца назад

@@estebanod they ARE completely different bikes. My point was that if I was going to spend that much money it wouldn’t be on a thumper. And I said slightly used. I wouldn’t be interested in a clapped out Africa Twin for 6k.

@SW-Video 4 месяца назад

The last 3 minutes of this video gave me 80% of the info I was looking for. I'm interested in rideability, reliability, and ease of maintenance. If you could put those 3 things together in a video that was less than 5 minutes, you would have a winning formula for your channel. Most people either don't have the time to slog through a half hour video or the attention span. It's good you have the gift of gab. That's critical on any YT channel but condensing your reviews will only help you in the long run. I hope this bit of constructive criticism is taken in the spirit it's given to help you grow your channel and connect with your viewers better.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

That is definitely good advice and something I'd like to start doing for all my videos like this. Regular viewers often enjoy longer videos, but that's more for entertainment and just a little education here and there. For those who are new to the channel, or are just doing research, videos like this often get skipped over. Regardless of whether there's actual helpful information buried at the end. I could try fitting it into a 1 minute short, but perhaps a 5 minute video would be better?

@jkmarshall3553 4 месяца назад

I'm not sure why it's suggested that "newer" riders should start with lower seat height bikes, while more experienced riders gravitate to higher seat height. I've been riding for over 30 years and I always feel more comfortable riding a slightly lower seat height bike... and I'm over 6 foot. Just because you're more experienced doesn't mean you require higher seat heightage.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Agreed. I'd always take a bike that allows me to touch safely. The XR almost took me down twice already lol

@dandersonjr 4 месяца назад

Service intervals on my 2023 701 is 6200 miles and most people don't put that many miles on a motorcycle in a year so I'm not sure where the high maintenance comments are coming from. I've owned KTM and Husqvarna motorcycles for the past 8 years without any reliability issues. The DR and XR are interesting video's to watch but I'm mainly here for the 701 video's. Thanks.

@ogasi1798 4 месяца назад

I think lots of people bang on about the austrian bikes because the web says so, i too have ran ktm since 2016 and replaced a fuse on my 450, one fuse - that is it, my 500 has done 8k miles the last 18mths and has needed nothing but oil and filters and stuff like tyres and chain - normal....

@IRLtrolls 4 месяца назад

Sounds like YOU don’t put that many miles on a motorcycle in a year 6,200 is for oil change (which is insane) AND the valve check. The tenere 700 valve check is every 26,000 miles. I’ve never seen a 701 with more than 30,000 miles. They always need a top end after 20-30k “I’m not sure where the high maintenance comments are coming from” Well you’re blind lol

@IRLtrolls 4 месяца назад

@@ogasi17988,000miles isn’t shit. Especially for a new bike. The Austrian bikes are high maintenance and low reliability. There isn’t any mental gymnastics you can do to evade the facts

@ogasi1798 4 месяца назад

@@IRLtrolls 8k miles is nothing but it's 8k trouble free Give it a rest and go ride a Honda or something

@IRLtrolls 4 месяца назад

@@ogasi1798 I will ride any of the Japanese manufacturers. I have a 2014 WR450 with over 700 hours. All original parts. Only ever changed the oil. The KTM 500 is a solid platform. Best bike they make In my opinion but the 690/701 and 890 engines are a joke in reliability

@Unknown-ym5gz 4 месяца назад

Im Husky all the way. thanks for posting a 701 video. good info all around. I had hoped to see more off road video. you fooled me with all the mud on the 701 at the beginning of the video compared to the actual off road time shown. PLEASE dont give up on the 701 videos. I still want to see them. thanks

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Haha yeah sorry, needed to stick to the same track I took for the XR DR comparison video. I think I'm going to take the 701 up to Harrison Hills pretty soon here. That should be an awesome off road test, and is something I've really been looking forward to since I got it.

@htchd1htchd149 4 месяца назад

Dr 650 got more power than ya need mine is evil but it's lightened a lil ,itl fly

@kennethkramer8185 4 месяца назад

If you're planning a trip to the U.P look me up. I have a KTM 690 and know a few good trails and dirt roads that are perfect for your 701.😊

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Nice!!!

@StoltHD 4 месяца назад

If you want a Honda XR with more power, get a XR650R...

@ericrusch8258 4 месяца назад

Ben, open invitation- bring that 701 (or whatever) to Elcho and borrow my 450L for a comparison Vid.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Let's do that! Can you send me an email? swankycatproductions@outlook.com

@mikethomsen5096 4 месяца назад

How’s the low end first and second gear compared to the 22 klr 650

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I've still not put nearly enough time in on the 701, but I'm not sure I've ever noticed a speed/gear that didn't work well. I think it just has such a nice spread of power that it's not as picky about gears as others.

@GregLanz 4 месяца назад

The 701 sounds great, the weight and power would make for a fun bike but for me I'd take a T7 or old thumper

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Fair enough! It's definitely not something I'd buy new. Honestly I never thought I'd own one. Mine just popped up for less than $1000 more than my XR, so I had to give it a shot. Glad I did, but it's a bit ridiculous 😂

@billybunter3753 4 месяца назад

DR 650 stock is 46 ponies! After mods you're looking at 48-49!

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

It's definitely got a good amount of hidden power, can't wait to unleash mine!

@keithquinn5624 4 месяца назад

Maybe at the crank, its 39hp at the wheel stock.

@retiredwaterdoctor 4 месяца назад

the old reliable bikes from Japan.....my take on it is ...do you need the extra horse power.....loss of traction in many places when you grab a hand full of throttle, can have serious consequences.....great video, Ben.....keep em coming! Garth

@kellyyon-x7p 4 месяца назад

Funny thought I had the other day. If you had complete 100% traction on a dinosaur would a person really need more horsepower? If I wanted a drag bike, I would buy one, right. If I wanted to climb rock walls and cliffs, I would get a trials bike and destroy all the enduros and big ADV things. Like they say “ like what you have.”

@AdvTechMoto 4 месяца назад

I absolutely love my 701. Although I have had some issues lately, it's still my unicorn. Cfmoto 450 is up next for me!

@slakk5093 4 месяца назад

Wow you are going up in weight and way down in power.. Im looking at the 450mt too but if i had a 701 i'm not so sure I would be

@AdvTechMoto 4 месяца назад

@slakk5093 time for something different and will provide some good content for my channel I think. I'll get another 701 for sure though.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I think I might try to get one of the 450s as well! Seems like an interesting bike!

@AdvTechMoto 4 месяца назад

@SwankyCatProductions has an impressive spec for the price. Pretty much what the 490 adventure was supposed to be

@mikerichards3248 4 месяца назад

Nice video. Sometimes there is an idea that riders will have some kind of linear progression from a small beginner bike like an XT250 and then move to larger more powerful bikes, the 650s, then the twins, the big expensive adventure bikes, the faster bikes, until we reach some pinnacle where we have the fastest, most powerful, most expensive bike on the market. Maybe it's peer pressure, maybe it's ego, maybe some folks are just meant to ride those big pricey bikes; somebody has to. The rest of us mere mortals just want to find something that fits and enjoy it.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Definitely. There's always going to be something bigger and faster. Same goes for cars, trucks, boats, etc. The key is finding something YOU enjoy and then not giving a second thought to what anyone else thinks!

@davidl546 4 месяца назад

That 701 is amazing! I would still gravatate to a simpler bike because its easier to fix, yet I would consider any modern dual sport. The 701 seems to have a similar spirit as my dads 1983 Husqvarna WR250, what a good woods bike that is. The best part is that the 701 is street legal. Torn between getting a Norden 901 or an Africa twin....

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I actually just talked to someone who has a 901! Sounded like it was a lot of bike, but I'd still like to try one too. I've always wanted an AT though, some day!

@memorris2 4 месяца назад

Who are these people that ride and need 74 hp to just to ride a trail and have fun?!?!?! The dr650 has all the power anyone will ever need.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Off road the DR and XR are definitely more than enough, especially with a few free performance mods. I like the 701s power on the road. Is it overkill? Yes, 100% 🤣.

@memorris2 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions fair enough! I got the dr650 and had an old plated xr600 before that just bc i knew a 400 would be wide open at 65+mph

@DannyHerron 4 месяца назад

If you’ve never considered it, you’re smart. It’s unreliable, even more so than a KTM.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

True, however the same can be said for any motocross bike. When you engineer for performance, longevity and reliability are just an annoying after thought.

@davidrichardson5402 4 месяца назад

Honda crf450rl very good choice, my 2022 1 1/2" lowering link and slide forks up about 3/4" and bajaworxs windshield , 13 to 14 tooth front sproket know mini adventure tourer and still very torque, your vid is great, enjoy the ride

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Cool! That sounds awesome! I'd definitely like to get one some day!

@monokheros5373 4 месяца назад

Why have i only now considered & dismissed Xr650l 47.2 ft# torque HUSQ 701 51.08 ft# torque Dr650 32.2 ft# torque Im not one to buy ponies over torque on a tractor , especially at 2x the cost for only 4 ft# of torque Ponies are rpm & gearing ....

@Hunter1st 2 месяца назад

Having an xr650r is the best of both worlds. 277 lbs and about 70hp with a pipe and tuning.

@PhillipBear-w1w 4 месяца назад

My 1992 DR 650 came standard with 46 horsepower, a 2000 XR 650 has 62 horsepower, is that progress is it? 40 horsepower out of a 650,what a joke

@nickabrahall1412 4 месяца назад

Big difference between the DR and 701 is 701 is better on fuel and will cruise at highway speeds and not burn much fuel at all It’s very economical Also suspension is better on 701

@grantdinkel627 4 месяца назад

Hi Ben,I'm reaching out to you from South Africa, I would like to forward you a video you might be interested in not sure how to. Regard Grant Dinkel

@DiveTrainerDan 4 месяца назад

I don't know if it's reliability it's more avaliable time for care. I have a ton of other hobbies so I don't want to spend a ton of time or extra money servicing it.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I definitely get that! Thankfully I don't ride mine enough to even require serving 🤣

@hardworkingamerican8847 4 месяца назад

I am half Swedish but dang I would have to do something about the colors . Have a ton of cool stickers , that would be a cheap fix lol . I would have to get one like yours and lower it . Price is a consideration and this amount would eat away money for the Apocalypse so , choices choices .

@EscurKo 3 месяца назад

The big bore dual-sports I never considered: XR650L & DR650, cause they are more than 20 years old in EU now, no new sales ahaha :D

@superwag634 4 месяца назад

Those xr and dr bikes will be running 30 years from now where’s the huski will be waiting for a fuel injection circuit which is no longer in production in China 😂

@ComfyDadShoes 4 месяца назад

I think if I had better riding skills, I would definitely consider a 701. However, most of its capabilities wouldn’t be used by me. I’m actually considering a sportsman 570 to tackle more technical off-road situations while keeping my DR for tamer trails and commuting.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Haha yeah I think if I rode mine exclusively, I might be able to handle it. But the little I do ride it just ends up reminding me how unprepared I am for it 🤣

@bobkelly2447 4 месяца назад

Well done ! I was wondering about the 701 and I am glad you finally did a comparison with it... at twice the price as the dinos I don't see that much difference my self ! yes it has new features..... the fuel injection and I assume an extra gear in the transmition( not sure about that) but the reliability of the fuel injection would be a big drawing point for many I am sure but when it comes to playing around with the bikes in the dirt or fields they really look to be exactly the same.... the XR650L has to be timed just right to get the front wheel up and the 701 doesn't but they both can get the front wheel up just like the DR too so if the bike can accelerate hard enough to do that theirs not that much difference in them ! twice the Horsepower sounds like a big difference but in this case I don't think it is....this is very interesting as I've always went for the higher HP machines for playing in the dirt that is great fun ! but although you can peal out on every corner with the 701...you can do the same thing with the other 2 dino's.......personally i think my 40hp dino is just right ! thanks Ben !

@hardworkingamerican8847 4 месяца назад

Hmm . I am thinking of a second bike and weight is a key reason . Still holding on to my Tenere 700 for now .

@charlesr9110 4 месяца назад

So what's the plan after the adventure build? Trans wisc trail? One of the BDRs?

@bobbyschroeder7068 4 месяца назад

Me and some friends are riding in the TWAT at the end of July.

@drewdavis4614 4 месяца назад

I have a 1988 XR600R and it is perfect. Nothing fancy not even a key just a kill switch and a kick starter and I am a fit 60 year old male. I love all the bikes you showed the 701 is an amazing bike.😊

@garyhoward2490 4 месяца назад

Well.... I bought a plated 2002 XR650R...10 years ago, for $2700. It already had a lot of the mods and upgrades done to it. It rips and its super reliable. Easy to work on, and parts are readily available, and cheap. Still ride it...a lot! Yes...I have to kick start it. But I figure that the kick starting is a theft deterant. So, in my view, the 650L, is a great bike. But...why on earth would you buy a new one???? There are tons of them, that have been sitting in someones garage, for 10 or 15 years...mostly unridden!! Easy to pick a nice one up, for 2 to 3k! Do the suspension, intake, exhaust and comfort/personel mods, and still be considerably, under the cost of a new one. And...with the mods, unless you are a expert/pro level rider, is close enough to the Husky. Remember...it's 80 percent rider, and 20 percent bike. Work on your skills, and save a ton of money. People will respect you are ripping on an XR...but if you rip on a Husky, its expected and no one cares. Old guy wisdom. LMAO

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I almost bought a plated XR-R a while back! From the research I did then it'd blow my L out of the water. That being said though, the R isn't something that the average dude is going to buy and then plate, so I'm not sure there'd be a huge audience interested in one. I purchased mine used with a couple hundred miles on it and the seat concepts seat, so it ended up being an awesome deal. I actually had a red one lined up but now I'm so glad I found this one, as it's by far my favorite paint job. Haha yeah the XR will take some getting used to but I'm looking forward to that part!

@firstamendmenttshirt4768 4 месяца назад

You forgot the 690 enduro r, the real machine.

@DrSmile81 4 месяца назад

"The Big Bore Dual Sport You've Never Considered" - I always considered, but im not a "content creator of yt fantasy/advertisement bubble" and so i finally found a video comparing the bikes a little bit. So thumbs up, thank you! Other then that, in my opinion, the handling of the 701 is the biggest difference othern then ofc wot compared to the ol thumpers...but i guess for many people it could be too much of "bmx feeling"....but in the end, i would def go with a 701 cause if you fully upgrade the old bikes, your not far away from the price tag. Only concern is ktm and the quality control inside their "factory" eg labor camps....XD

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Glad you found some of it helpful! Thanks!

@billcotton1551 4 месяца назад

I use the horse method to get on my bike. It's just easier at my age.

@theninja001 4 месяца назад

I would never consider a 701 or 690 because I must can’t trust them to not leave me stranded in the middle of nowhere. Give me reliability over outright power any day. KTM and Husky dual sports 250- 501cc are reliable as anything though.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Yeah? I guess I assumed they all had similar issues.

@anthonybaiocchi3028 4 месяца назад

Do yourself a huge favour and lose the L, and get an R.

@ridenm7748 4 месяца назад

A modded DR is the way. Cheaper and amazing tractor factor. You can get the weight down close to the husky and the suspension just as stiff. Only downside is the power but a pumper carb on the dr does wonders.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I'm really looking forward to getting the DR set up, I think it's going to be a blast off road!

@jeffgarner1448 4 месяца назад

The husky is expensive unreliable and ugly

@deltabluesdavidraye 4 месяца назад

All that matters is will it break down because of all that power to weight ratio.And no 72 is not more than double 40 as you claimed. Some strange math on that one there Buxko.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

The majority of us may see it that way, but not everyone values reliability over performance. If they did, KTM & Husky would go out of business! Your correct, I did mistakenly say MORE than half the HP, rather then less, which is what I meant to say. However, 40hp vs 74hp is far closer to half, than it is two thirds. So I think, "about half" is fair to say?

@RandomGRK 4 месяца назад

I had a very well sorted DR650 with every mod you can do. I rode the Husky for a little and while it is everything you said it is, it just didn’t have that super fun vibrations and agricultural feel of the DR. Twisting the throttle on the DR with pumper carb makes me feel like a kid. Like they say it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast and that is the DR.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

100%! As impressive as the 701 is, it feels like it's missing something in comparison to a "thumper" that actually thumps. It's definitely not fun to ride a bike that you can't or don't want to use to its full potential. It can be fun once in a while, but most of the time it's almost a waste!

@aaronwaderides7209 4 месяца назад

I’m picking the 701

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Yeah!?

@aaronwaderides7209 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions horsepower

@AwesomePlayers 4 месяца назад

The 701 truly is the bike a lot of people forget about in the 650 category. The 701 needs to have the sag set right or the handling will be off. Also the lowering is totally charging the dynamics.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Hey AwesomePlayers! I think I've said this before, but your ADV content is some of the first I ever watched and was a big influence on me! I still remember and think about your adventures often actually. In regards to the 701, I'll have to get on a newer model sometime and see how it compares. Sounds like the stock suspension and updated motor are worth a try! Thanks for the comment!

@DBAUG 4 месяца назад

It seems that you took the HP data of the Husqvarna from the engine and of the Japanese, from the wheel...

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Links to the Dyno data are in the description, I'm not sure what numbers you're referring to exactly.

@BuckingFastard 4 месяца назад

I think I’d rather have my tenere back

@kellyyon-x7p 4 месяца назад

I just watched another U-Tube Video where the Kove was sold and the owner went back to an older DR650. He illustrated profoundly the facts that this older bike technology is cheaper, more reliable, easier to fix and pretty fun even though the riders will have to use only the riding mods in their head!!! LMAO, of you needs riding mods to go 30 mph or less on a dirt bike you may need to consider training wheels too! LMAO again. Or maybe I’m missing something here ?

@robbieandbeckie 4 месяца назад

You are right, I have never considered getting a ladies' model dual sport.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

🤣

@ftf1987 4 месяца назад

Can't wait for the XR to get lowered

@quadsquadgarage 4 месяца назад

Emissions control on any petrol burning motors means great for the environment. It also means less reliable and more things to go wrong. It's literally in all industries across the board. Those 650's will go across the world and back and get you home. The 701 won't. Watch "Krankit's" review of his 701. I'll take the DR first, and the XR second.

@gabrielkopp2036 4 месяца назад

It's all about price Ben you can buy the xr650l and dr650 bran new as 1 701/690

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

True! The only reason the 701 was within reach for me, is that it has higher miles and isn't in nearly as good of shape as it looks on camera. I actually only paid about $900 more for the 701 than I did my XR. Otherwise I'd never have owned one.

@gabrielkopp2036 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions true. I've seen some good deals on used 690s and 701s. But what does that say about resale value on a 13k bike?

@lastsonofkrypton36 4 месяца назад

I"ve had a modded 250L for several years that I've really enjoyed, but I picked up a 450RL and wow, having that sort of power at the ready adds quite a fun factor. Much like Husky has found a sweet spot for power and weight w/ the FE350S, Honda/Yamaha need to produce a 350-400 cc L bike, not "RL".

@kevint499 4 месяца назад

Find a 15yr old big bore KTM that still runs great and has not needed major repairs. LOL. Now try to find a 15yo DR or XR that has needed anything more than the carb cleaned.

@thefathippy 4 месяца назад

The price is the biggie. The clones are amazing bikes, but they cost so much more. We don't get new XRs or DRs anymore, so in the big single range, it's really a KLR or one of the clones. Two very different styles. Unless you want something really exotic with a very small dealer network. My DR was a great bike after I sorted it to suit me, but oh myyy, that 690 - and straight out of the crate!😎

@vernlochtefeld1626 4 месяца назад

The dual counterbalanced current generation started in 2019. I recently picked one up with lots of upgrades, exhaust bark busters motor plate etc VGC 5,000 miles $6500.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Wow, nice!!!

@WyldKard 4 месяца назад

2017 was the first year the 701 had a dual counterbalanced engine.

@Timboslicce 4 месяца назад

Push them forks all the way down in the clamps and that nervous feeling gets much better. Also the bar mounts are trash. They need to be behind the forks as much as possible with that chassis. Apparently lol

@jonathanstormont2898 4 месяца назад

In Australia you can't even buy either the Honda XR650L or the DR650 new anymore due to lack of ABS and emissions. Guys that use to buy these either seem to go a DR400 or a KLR 650 new now here. The 701 I know is very popular for touring around on here and many mods with long range fuel tanks etc. Watch MAD TV if you want to see how we ride them here.

@searchingfor6thgear44 4 месяца назад

Moved from a 2008 KLR to a well accessorized used 2016 KTM 690 Enduro. Lost 80-ish lbs, gained 30+hp and a 6th gear. You can find used 690/701s in good condition for around $7,500~$8,500; putting the cost of a much better bike in reach.

@vernlochtefeld1626 4 месяца назад

The low speed low rpm chug of the DR/XR is available on a 690 with a simple sprocket change. The deep chug single cylinder sound DR/XR was traded on the 2019+ 690 by the two counter balancers. It’s a good trade if when you ride longer faster stretches of road. Numb hands feet and butt is greatly reduced. You can still get a really sweet not ear damaging thumper sound with a good aftermarket pipe for it. Such as Wings or Arrow.

@deltabluesdavidraye 4 месяца назад

You do not need the extra power.Extra power can come at a cost.The wrong cost .

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Agreed, no one needs a 701. The DR & XR make way more sense. The 701 is a blast though!

@unskilledlabor1 4 месяца назад

Do you wire your oxford grips directly to the battery, or use a relay or wire it into an ignition circuit? Been dealing with parasitic drain in my DR from my oxfords, despite having the auto shutoff feature

@tylermears480 4 месяца назад

Man the husky is sweet but i plan on keepin my dr for a very long time lol i could get my dr down to frame engine out in hour and half and the reliability is pretty hard to beat thats what swayed me to get the dr. Yes my dr is loud but good loud and once fully uncorked its completely diffrent bike couldnt be happier. You need to get up here to washington swanky show you some places

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Ha ha yeah the 701 is an amazing bike, that none in their right mind needs 🤣. The DR and XR are both more than capable of anything we actually need them to do, and that includes having a lot of fun! I honestly like riding the 650s more. Yeah? I'd definitely like to ride the someday!

@tylermears480 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions definitely man let me know look up concunully tons of thing to do good food and camping plus lake. Let me know man be nice to get more ppl to ride eith

@anthonybaiocchi3028 4 месяца назад

By the way, the 701 was first released in 2008, and was called the 690.😉

@jerryellis835 4 месяца назад

Brand new Tenere 2024 is on sale everywhere for 8500.00

@jerryellis835 4 месяца назад

And has the same horsepower

@spencervidal3168 4 месяца назад

What is your thing for big vibby singles that you have to drop a shit ton of money into just to get them up to minimum standards??

@elijahcavin2408 4 месяца назад

They changed the motor and it got a lot smoother I think 18 or 19

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I've heard that! They improved the balancing system if I recall correctly.

@ogasi1798 4 месяца назад

i do not believe for one second that people have not considered the platform as a dual sport, here on our land they are supremely popular in this regard

@danielthatcher5345 4 месяца назад

So basically you could buy the XR and the DR for the price of the 701.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Brand new? Just about, yeah haha.

@kellyyon-x7p 4 месяца назад

And you get to work on the 701 twice as much also?? Sounds like an expensive call girl to me. Ha ha ha.

@ArcticJeff 4 месяца назад

Question: Which bike has better performance between the Husky 701 and the T7? The best engine mods I've done to my KLR650 C model, is a big bore 692cc kit, and the MCP carb kit - I didn't notice any difference with the KLX needle, but the MCP kit definitely made a difference, especially on top end. Those mods in conjunction with the modified air box and free'er flowing exhaust makes the KLR perform like it was meant to. I've also upgraded the suspension with a progressive rear shock and progressive front springs. Alas, even after all those mods I'd love to have a Husky 701.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

The T7 is definitely impressive, but unless my dad was really holding back, the much lighter 701 pulled out ahead with comical ease. We only went up to 60 ish though, and while I'd expect the tables may turn above 60, 0-60 is usually where I like to have my fun anyways. I know a good high mileage one someone may be willing to sell 🤣

@kurtyoung6769 4 месяца назад

The 701 is twice the price! That's the reason nobody buys it!

@Gen-X.Adventures 4 месяца назад

What one bike would you choose for a BDR, a DR, XR, 701, or T7?

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Great question! The 701 for it's over all abilities and weight.

@Gen-X.Adventures 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the insight! Valuable info from somebody who owns them all, and i bet it runs like a mad beast!@@SwankyCatProductions

@VetJeeper 4 месяца назад

At 51yrs old. I’m ok with a DR.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I think the DR can make anyone feel like a kid again!

@Duken4evr29 4 месяца назад

All of these bikes run much better with some fueling and exhaust therapy. Of the Japanese bikes the Honda is my choice as it's has far more potential in it's suspension due to it being fully adjustable and cartridge vs. the Suzuki's damper rod forks. To be fair, I like the Suzuki's engine better than the Honda, and it's forks can be improved with cartridge "emulators". The 690 platform is another animal entirely and truly becomes mental when tuned with an O2 delete, mapped Power Commander and the free breathing can of choice, which was the Yoshimura for my 701. The tuned engine is almost too fast for it's dual sport wrapper now. I geared mine up to be the same as the SMC-R at 16/45 which give it really easy cruising on the highway, but also give it nice "legs" and makes it more controllable in the lower gears.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Good info, thank you!!!

@colbyvanorden9140 4 месяца назад

I got my 2023 701 in early 2024 for 10300, new from the dealer. The 2016 would not have the full 74HP, that didn't come until the later models. A lot of those things you talk about not liking have been fixed since 2016. The crank is now double balanced, which means there really isn't much in the ways of vibrations anymore. Compared to the XR, my 701 feels just so much more capable and worth the extra expense. The only complaint I have with the bike is that there aren't many aftermarket fuel tank options out there, and the ones that exist are pricey ($500 USD for 1,5 gals). I've put about 2k miles on it and really don't get the reliability issues people talk about. I had a 2016 with 18k miles on it and I did have to replace the clutch slave cylinder. Other than that, it was oil changes, tires, chain, basic maintenance and the thing would not quit. I fully believe people just like to hate on bikes that aren't Japanese.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Huh interesting, I don't think I was aware they modified the balancing system. That must be an awesome upgrade! I've seen a fair number of bikes with issues but like I said, on bikes like this people aren't exactly out putting around... Hahaha. There are a few small things I've noticed on my bike that aren't exactly on par with Japanese quality. Being the first year they came out though I can't say I'm surprised and would bet the quality has come a long way! Enjoy that beautiful monster!!!

@XRakkgruntX 4 месяца назад

I had a 2020 KTM690 enduro for a year, paid 11,250, used with 320 miles and rode all over even did a week in MOAB. Best dual sport ever made in my opinion, had to sell it because an old spinal injury was being aggravated pretty badly. I really wish that I could still ride, if I am ever pain free with my back, I’ll go buy another one that same day.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

They really are the top of the line and I'd venture to guess that they're pretty hard to beat! I'm really sorry to hear you're unable to ride, I hope that changes for you someday!

@insatiable_mind 4 месяца назад

The Ausies beat the crap out of their DR’s.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Yeah they do!!!

@nikhayes3396 4 месяца назад

Does this bike have the same issues with the cams wearing out? Does anyone know? I would assume so but perhaps not. I looked at these bikes, but I have a CR250R so if I want a dirt bike I ride that, so I wanted to go more road comfort oriented and went with the KLR, which yes is a dog until you "uncork" it. And even then I can't quite understand why there isn't a really good Fuel Map modification for the KLR, blows my mind with how many they have sold that all we have to choose from is the dynajet at 500 and the JD at 280 and neither seem like a great option at this point. Maybe I am wrong. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. I have put a annoyingly loud wide open delkavic exhast on my KLR which at least lets me lift the front tire off the ground if need be over a log or whatever.

@Michael_Shay 3 месяца назад

The 701 doesn't have the cam issues.

@modzso2 4 месяца назад

In Europe we don't have neither the DR, nor the XR. Available: CRF300, 690/701, RE450 or AJP PR7. I went with the PR7, less power than 701, better suspension :) (And it already has rally fairing and 17L tank) . Btw good video!

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Thank you!!! Aww man, I would LOVE a PR7! I need to do a video about those!!!

@brianrahuba6919 4 месяца назад

I would have compared it to a 501 . The 701 is in another different class . Really, so is the 501 as well . Lol, even the husky 350FE is in a different class . It all depends on the environment that allows you how to ride .

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Definitely. There are very few "bad options" out there when it comes to bikes. Most of the time issues arise when owners misinterpret the intended use and limitations of a bike. Or they misunderstand the type of skills required to ride it in certain conditions.

@gungadingo 4 месяца назад

Nothing offered today compares to the old Husaberg 650. 112 mph off the showroom floor. Throttle wheelies for days in the first four gears. My ‘06 has only had one fiber clutch disc replaced in all these years. 2 San Felipe 250s, one Baja 1000, thousands of miles with just tire, chain and sprockets, and air filters.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

NICE!!! I almost bought an older Husaberg years ago! Still sort of wish I had.

@ah4254 4 месяца назад

New subscriber, great channel! Also curious about CFMoto. Recently purchased a 1990 TW200, and bought several Bradley products. Despite being slow, it has been a lot of fun. Would like to also have an XR650. Let me know when yours becomes for sale, I drive through WI often. Thank you

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Welcome! The TW200 is just a fun bike. period! What did you get from Bradley? Haha alright, it might be while, but I'll announce it when I'm ready!

@jamesarmstrong-jones5082 4 месяца назад

The husky is sweet, but the xr has my heart

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I definitely get that!

@MattPerry 4 месяца назад

the only problem with the Husqvarna or the KTM 690 besides the price, the main thing is reliability, if you are not a rich guy you will invest a ton of money on a bike that is not so reliable to say the least, for sure it is my favorite bike but reliability keeps me from buying it. the second thing that keeps me from buying it is the availability from the dealers to have a test ride to really know what you are buying.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Mmm yeah, without a test ride it'd definitely be hard to invest. That's what I liked about buying mine used. I got to test ride it and I knew since it was already used and had high miles that most of the little stuff was taken care of. Now I just need to sit back and wait for it to self destruct completely 🤣

@AwesomePlayers 4 месяца назад

We have had many 690/701 models in our group. All have been reliable.

@deltabluesdavidraye 4 месяца назад

If it isn't reliable it isn't a good bike.Especially off-road.

@Michael_Shay 3 месяца назад

The 701 is fairly reliable. The platform has been around for a while and the engine has been pretty well refined. There's a couple minor things that need fixed. Pre-2021 models have clutch slave failures. And the sidestand sensor likes to wiggle loose. Personally I'd also do the subframe reinforcement before riding offroad with luggage. Once those things are taken care of they're pretty damn good.

@smily2208 4 месяца назад

As an owner, I must say husqvarna tr650.

@insatiable_mind 4 месяца назад

I rented a DR650 in Oahu last week. I definitely want one but, an hour on the freeway with no wind in the morning felt great. An hour against the wind after swimming was fatiguing. Unless the aftermarket windscreen is awesome I don’t think it’ll replace my KLR.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

The lack of good wind protection is what drove me to the KLR and T7 for the past 8 years. My plan was to do a full rally fairing on the DR but now I might actually go a slightly less expensive route... we'll see how it turns out!

@mikeisland7382 4 месяца назад

Great to see someone comparing all the dual sports. The rougher trails will really show the differences. Add a 450L and Kove 450 to the mix and you'd have all the bases covered.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Thanks! I'm hoping to get on both this summer, even if it's just for a test ride.

@BlazinBlades 4 месяца назад

Just to set the record straight The 690 platform was around about 10 years before the 701(which joined the party when KTM acquired Husky) but is less favorable because of all the reliability issues it had and still does…(i.e Spite’s Corner brand new 2024 SMCR 😢)

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Really??? I didn't realize the 690 was out that much longer? I knew they were closely related, but figured they were released within closer proximity.

@Schillerm82 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions 2008 for the KTM 690, 2016 for the Husky 701, and 2023(?) for the GasGas 700. Basically the same bike in 3 different colors.

@Eds_PanAm 4 месяца назад

I for one I'm hoping you keep it. I just bought a 23 and had it lowered by the dealer by 2 inches....thing is so fun, great addition

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

It definitely is a very impressive bike!

@Gunga-ct9nz 4 месяца назад

I appreciate the 701 information.

@josephthornton8560 4 месяца назад

I wanted the KTM 690- SM. For the price I decided instead to buy TWO KLX 300s. I bought a KLX 300ds AND a KLX 300SM for the market price of 1 KTM. (ktm / husqy / gasgas) are premium bikes, that come with a premium price sticker. They also have expensive parts and accessories, more maintenance, and some reliability issues. I am 5'08", 30" inseam 270lbs and I do mount up like a horse. MX boots also rob you of a couple inches of reach to the ground. In the past I have owned 2 KLRs, a DRZ 400 (and lots of street bikes). I seem to keep going smaller and smaller with my bike choices.

@joellikness2121 4 месяца назад

I'm about the same weight, how does the KLX do at highway speed? My problem is I'm 1.5-2 hours away from any legal trails, but I absolutely love the feel of these smaller bikes.

@josephthornton8560 4 месяца назад

@@joellikness2121 Its fine as long as you don't mind sitting there. I've had them both on the interstate at times. The DS has gone 80+ before I realized it. Seat upgrades are recommended. If I am in the saddle more 40 min or so..... I put the bike on a hitch hauler, and I drive my van to the ride. I just dont do long highway rides anymore. That's what tourers are for.

@bradh74 4 месяца назад

Didn't think you would make video that quick. Guess it was a good idea anyway. Thanks.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Haha, it was!

@timlubbers2884 4 месяца назад

It’s a big no on the husky … worse fuel economy, higher maintenance cost, fewer dealers, not any more carry capacity, far less upgrade potential and (unless you already own one) much higher initial costs. Insurance cost?

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I don't think my insurance is actually anymore expensive on the 701, I'll have to look. I picked mine up with higher miles and in rough shape so it was only $900 more than my XR, id never have bought it otherwise 🤣

@timlubbers2884 4 месяца назад

@@SwankyCatProductions up there it maybe close, down here in Florida, where we ride all year around it more than doubled when I switched my plates from South Dakota (to Florida)

@mikevandevusse1224 4 месяца назад

I have a 23 husqvarna 701 enduro and yes it is a amazing machine!

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Nice! Yeah it is!!!

@ryanbean3548 4 месяца назад

I’ve owned well over 100 bikes and by far my favorite was my 01 Husqvarna 250 2 stroke on and off. you could run comfortably at 70 with no issues. It was such a great machine. I should’ve never let it go.

@Veksi8 4 месяца назад

Great to read someone else love old (cagiva) huskies. I have many Husqvarna WR250 and its great enduro, only e-start missing. Also have DR650, KLR650 C and really wanna buy XR650R. Maybe selling KLR because its just too lame, its good soft, not vibrate but just too less power.

@ryanbean3548 4 месяца назад

@@Veksi8 I myself own a pig as well 😂08 klr650, like you mentioned the power isn’t there but it rides like a Cadillac

@d-3five161 4 месяца назад

Nice video! I just purchased a left over 2023 701 Enduro. I wanted a new XR650L but with all the upgrades needed for my likings the 701 turns out to be cheaper and still way more advanced than a highly modified Honda. Just my take.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

I think that's something more people should take into consideration. A budget bike isn't really a budget bike if it needs every major component upgraded to fit your needs.

@garyhoward2490 4 месяца назад

Yeah, but if someone is riding at an intermediate level, just for fun. They don't need a lot of mods. Maybe 1500 bucks worth. The vast majority of riders, aren't looking for that "ultimate bike". They just want to ride and enjoy their bike. Isn't that what bikes are really about? Not everyone is a high level rider.

@d-3five161 4 месяца назад

Believe me, I'm a huge fan of the XR.

@davidwood974 4 месяца назад

Love my 901, hope to have the 701 in the future

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

They'd be a good pair!

@Michael_Shay 3 месяца назад

I used to have a DR650. Then i got really lucky and got a 2019 701 with 2k miles for $7500. Hands down the best bike ive ever had

@WheelsandReels501 4 месяца назад

Good video Swanky. The 701 was on the top of my list when i was looking for a new bike but i ended up going with the kove 450. You would be surprised how similar the kove is to the Dr and Xr. Similar weight and Power. If you could get your hands on one to test, that would be a cool video. Anyways, keep it up.

@SwankyCatProductions 4 месяца назад

Nice!!! I'd been following those since way before people started talking about them! There are actually a few demo models for sale I've been eyeing up... Hmmm

@jkmarshall3553 4 месяца назад

Did you check out the CF MOTO MT 450 also?

@wudntulike2no32 4 месяца назад

I'm waiting for the 800x. If it doesn't hit the US in the next year then I'll grab a v85tt to replace my California.

@tnbrfller 4 месяца назад

KTM owns Husky. The KTM 690 was produced for years before the 701. KTM was strongly ahead of their time when they produced the 640, but chose to ruin a nice lightweight ADV bike into a shorter range, no windscreen 690. With updating, instead of discontinuing, the 640 could have been the legendary lightweight, longer range ADV bike lots of customers were looking for all along. And still are.

@spadac4543 4 месяца назад

I test rode a gas gas 700 at an adv event I went and it was an awesome bike. Only thing that stopped me from getting one is the maintenance and reliability. Ended up getting a tenere and have been loving it too.