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I was asked on stream the other day ‘what makes a player good on football manager’ and at first I laughed. Then, I thought, wow what a nice challenge to try and explain that in a video. So, here I am trying to boil down what makes any individual player on FM actually good in the game. We throw around things like a player’s fit into a tactic, their attributes, and how good-looking they are - all are equally relevant.
Real talk though I try to get past the FM trope of just signing wonderkids and you will be fine, but touch on what attributes actually make a player good on football manager - no matter the tactic. There are also attributes that don’t mean a lot on their own so those are important to point out too so you can assess the quality of a player better. This is all an inexact science so it really is advice I have picked up over years of trying to beat a silly FM game that has taken over my life. Enjoy, peeps.
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@samuelweber4122 2 года назад

One underrated thing is nationality. I recently looked for a right back in one of my saves. The choice was between two guys where yes, one had better attributes, but the other guy was from Turkmenistan. The choice was rather easy...

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

Yeap pick the fastest.

@jamespringle7408 2 года назад

Why not both??

@greyMvtter 2 года назад

Lmao so true 🤣 unique nationality always wins

@Minerikus 2 года назад

Easy Choice. Turkmenistan guy!

@f1help613 2 года назад

I needed a central midfielder and I dug up some guy from Samoa. Everybody said he'd be a bust and the fans lambasted me but in his very fist game, in Champions League groups against Juventus, he scored the only goal after coming off the bench.

@TheNumbersGame 2 года назад

The intro has put forward the possibility of a Zealand Reading Club, and I am not opposed to this

@Dreamer105-6 2 года назад

First book: inverting the piramyd

@shaunkobrak5354 2 года назад

@@Dreamer105-6 holy grail stuff that one

@kirkbrasier 2 года назад

would not complain. will probably enjoy thoroughly lol

@xericscrub4795 2 года назад

I read that as the English city of reading because my brain is is in football mode

@walrous7054 2 года назад

@@xericscrub4795 up the ding

@kevincampbell256 2 года назад

Let’s act like we didn’t see Barrientos complaining to his teammates cause he didn’t get to go to Real Madrid. That’s a big problem for the team atmosphere Zealand since he is a Team Leader.

@orlandothompson5861 2 года назад

Strength really can carry sometimes. 39yo Akinfenwa was still scoring 15 goals a season in the Championship for me

@Cos_Why_Not 2 года назад

Zealand did a video on the best attributes, in almost all circumstances I believe strenght was the best

@verbfrombonsai8852 2 года назад

Who needs dribbling and pace when defenders can't even stay standing after you bullrush them

@deeznoots6241 2 года назад

Strength is so important for winning the balls in 50/50 situations

@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 2 года назад

You also need the Bible, the Quran and the Art of War. Read all of those and you might just learn what makes a player good

@mrartdeco 2 года назад

You forgot all the motivation and business books to cope with modern era

@simmo3171 2 года назад

Industrial society and its future helped me make my 4-2-3-1 gegenpress

@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 2 года назад

@@simmo3171 I read the communist manifesto, animal farm and 1984 and they taught me to use Inverted Winger/Winger combo

@IzzulFitri 2 года назад

Don't forget Mein Kampf.

@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 2 года назад

@@IzzulFitri that one taught me how to use a false Nein. Also translated Raumdeuter for me

@jcichon39 2 года назад

I always learn so much from your videos. Only been playing a few months but haven taken Southampton to the Champs league and win it in 4 seasons along with a consistent top 4 league finish. Any time I have an issue or are confused with something in FM21 I can find a vid you have done to explain it for me. Thanks so much!!!

@Roman-zf9sj 2 года назад

I had one striker who was awesome when looking at his attributes. A lot of green, maybe 2 white attributes. He scored 2 goals a season. My defenders scored more.

@alvaroazpeitiamontes4342 2 года назад

The other way around happens to me, i have sacha Hamache in my FC united of manchester since the first season in the isthmian league and now i am top of efl league 2 and he keeps scoring +30 goals with 13 acc 13 pace 10 finishing 10 dribbling

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

Makes you wonder if attributes translate into the match engine correctly.

@Dunsie 2 года назад

I have this *terrible* but huge and strong striker that - for some reason - doesn't stop scoring in the CL for me.

@pwalmsley9 2 года назад

I've got a 19-year-old Argentine wonderkid AM who is, attribute-wise, the best player in my squad. Single-figure assists for the season and avg rating of about 6.66. Doesn't matter what position and role I give him, he just doesn't perform.

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

@@pwalmsley9 i have the same issue with the AMC whatever player whatever formation or role this position cant perform! It must be a fm21 issue

@Nicksta2006 2 года назад

Genuinely thought you were talking about what makes a “user” player good. Cue next Zealand video 👀

@bwgolem 2 года назад

Zealand you are too good man. New to the channel but you are funny and extremely relevant. Keep up the great work!

@duartesantos9559 2 года назад

Hey zealand, and everyone, im portuguese, and tomorrow, at 11 AM (portuguese clocks) oriental dragon Will play LIVE in Canal 11 ( TV channel) against Alverca, cheers

@georgetsoumas6417 2 года назад

Alverca is the team that I currently manage so this should be interesting

@duartesantos9559 2 года назад

@@georgetsoumas6417 are you pt ?

@brokensythe 2 года назад

This video is worth its weight in gold. A fantastic breakdown on how to evaluate players in the game. Only addition I would add is that for playmakers as Zealand said its passing, vision but also technique. No truly great playmaker has a technique rating below 15

@AagoMcFly 2 года назад

what does a video weigh?

@alymohamed9947 2 года назад

@@AagoMcFly it's weight in megabytes

@waynekeebler6755 2 года назад

My two book suggestions are “As you like it” and “Money Ball”!

@wolfgangoppenheimer2905 2 года назад

My pick " Operant conditioning " By BF SKINNER,

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

Im playing since the CM era. My best striker was a mediocre newgen in stats but he was a scoring machine total career 286 match 232 goal. My other world class striker struggles to even find the target.

@BlueWoWTaylan 2 года назад

I swear, finishing can be such a lottery. I see many top goalscorers in top leagues that have 11 or so finishing. Feels like the rest of the attributes matter more which I can understand but still finishing needs to be a bit more important.

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

@@BlueWoWTaylan yet the fact that a player with low stats is a killer and a player with super stats is a loser kinda makes me wonder how the fuk they coding those outcomes. I have tried over 20 world class strikers and yet no one could surpass my mediocre newgen on performance.

@lebirb42 2 года назад

FM19 Xavi was the ultimate passing merchant. He had like 7 speed/acceleration, but 20 in passing, 20 in vision, 18 in technique

@hananidrisi6436 2 года назад

FM20 David Silva was also class

@dugdale24 2 года назад

Speaking of new born Spartans, when are you going to do more history podcast episodes? That was excellent.

@lukebigmore9231 2 года назад

Watching these just reinforces so many gaps in my FM knowledge. I had no idea you could train players in other roles. I'm still scared off by transfer negotiations.

@Londronable 2 года назад

You can NOT train roles. Only positions. I'm talking about the thing you find in individual training. Selecting a role merely tells you what attributes that person will train. For example, if you have a young winger you might want to train him as an advanced playmaker on the wing because he will train more attributes. Again. Players train familiarity with positions, NOT roles. A person is a natural in center midfield. Not as a box to box midfielder.

@DavidKohout 2 года назад

Intro is a bit longer this time, skip to 15:19 and thank me later guys!

@ZealandonYT 2 года назад

Lol yeet

@johndaily3338 2 года назад

DAMN! Your extremely good @ explaining simple things 👌🏻👏🏻💪🏻

@benh4390 2 года назад

Really useful video - although the main thing I took away from it was Zealand needs better board games. No one should have to suffer through monopoly these days! 😄

@sethenan 2 года назад

That intro was so good :)

@tajj7 2 года назад

Really these things come from experience, you get a feel for it, attributes you like for roles, how you play etc. Like I won't sign a player with sub 10 work rate, it's just a no no for me. Like I'm not having full backs that can't contribute offensively, Strikes with low finishing, seen many an AI team playing strikers at like PL level with like 12 finishing, that is just a no.

@XXXXXXXXXXXXXZZZZZZZZ Год назад

My trump card for a striker (AF) is: Finishing 16 or higher Off the Ball 16 or higher Acceleration 16 or higher I can regularly sign 18 year old talents with these stats and make them have a 0.8-0.9 goals per game seasons as a striker. Use ‚pass into space‘ and train them on ‚try to break offside trap‘ Voilà, you‘ve got yourself a money printing scheme

@jobin118 Год назад

Also important is how well the player is performing(stats from previous seasons and international). I found 2 17yr olds playing from 🇯🇵 playing in there full national team. The striker had 20 goals in 7 apps for his national team and the cm was insane. Signed them up immediately for less than £8 mil combined.

@bakedmomo5693 2 года назад

very very new to this game. im still on my downloading the basics of the basics of the game, and im already 30+hrs into it. another big problem with that? im only 5 games into a season AND im still doing crash courses with the in-game tutorials and the accompanied crash course into fm youtubers. so far, i've only latched on to yours and demand's, and all that DL & crash coursing still needs time for the 2nd phase, the processing, and the 3rd and final phase, the WINNING.

@tamagonbagel6569 2 года назад

Super solid tutorial, very helpful for a relative noob

@dh-cs 2 года назад

At first glance I thought this was What Makes Player Good "AT" fm, as in a real person playing FM. The intro kind of backed that up; maybe you wanna use that stack of books to make that video as well.

@no1raniuk854 2 года назад

How useful are player traits?

@WaariGaming 2 года назад

It would be interesting to do an experiment where we compare attribute categories (Technical, Mental, Physical). Have a league with identical teams but have all the players on one third have max in 1 category and one third in another etc. Set the other attributes to a nice low-ish neutral value. I am expecting team physical to crush.

@frederikbrandt424 2 года назад

I am expecting physical to get destroyed because the goalkeeping will be awful

@WaariGaming 2 года назад

@@frederikbrandt424 strength is one of the best goalkeeping stats.

@Zombie1Boy 2 года назад

@@WaariGaming not sure what strength does for goalkeeping, Illan Muelier does fine with 9-10 strength.

@tennoki 2 года назад

There's nothing more powerful than a strong towering striker that seems to turn every set piece into the goal. Especially a high potential young player that you just know is going to be a world class complete forward.

@alexgander736 2 года назад

Niceeeee super helpful thanks! Where do GK’s fall it to the mix?

@lebronjohnson6735 2 года назад

He posted a video on that too. IIRC agility was the most important attribute.

@alexandrevala7605 2 года назад

Adama Traoré is a beast! Speed, agility and strength!

@falagarius 2 года назад

Isn't 20 strength only the best attribute IF everyone else on the planet is 10 strength like in the test?

@Roscododger 2 года назад

Yes but it still shows us that strength is very important and helps a player a lot for the match engine

@BlueWoWTaylan 2 года назад

I wonder if it also effects the shoots with Power trait. I mean if you have such strength, you should be able to hit the ball harder :D

@inmysoul7 2 года назад

@@BlueWoWTaylan and the long shoot atrribute ? The accuracy?

@martinslvsten428 2 года назад

Rule number one. Atleast for fm 21. If the player doesnt have high pace and acceleration or can evolve those two stats then move on to the next.

@chesssse6607 2 года назад

3:55 should have done Liam Nesson voice... should have done it

@dantespina7398 2 года назад

number bigger than other guy isn't always the best metric. Dominic Calvert-Lewin has good stats nothing outstanding, but he has averaged like 24 goals a season over his 8 seasons in this save. While I have an Argentinian wonderkid who scores very sporadically. It's a lot more than 17 bigger than 14 oonga boonga. While there is traits, personality and size also, its a lot more nuanced and in impossible to tell sometimes. Thanks for the vid Mr Zealand

@kylehilts06 2 года назад

Me best ever striker pair was Calvert-Lewin and Lys Mousset for sheff united. No amount of wonderkids could ever peform at their level

@dantespina7398 2 года назад

@@kylehilts06 thats incredible, very unexpected. must have been elite elite

@simonhenderson5500 2 года назад

Okay, not going to lie but I laughed a lot at 2:50 😂

@harveyhancock7926 2 года назад

I think as I have a level 1 scouting badge I think it helps a lot cheers Zealand

@KungKokkos 2 года назад

Omfg.. I have been thinking the BLUE ones are more important then the GREEN highlights on positional attributes.. for years and years. Good god..

@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 2 года назад

5'3 Korean with 14 Heading that is pretty impressive imo.

@TrykusMykus 2 года назад

Which test was Zealand talking about with passing finishing above strength in hard carry attributes? Here I thought passing was underwhelming when tested as a solo attribute...

@thomaskarbe2302 2 года назад

Hey Zealand, one thing that I'm trying to figure out more in detail is the Captain of a team? All I read about it is a speculation based on real world football, but I would love to understand, what a good captain really influences on the field. Does his position matter a lot? Does he make the players around him better? Which attributes do really impact the captain? I'm not so much looking into the off the field things (e.g. player development), but really what he does to the team on the field.

@Zombie1Boy 2 года назад

Captain is a good way to handle issues with players, like a new contract or reduced playing time. Aside from that it helps establish a player within the team hierarchy faster due to well, being the captain -- good way to get a model citizen to start mentoring players.

@BlueWoWTaylan 2 года назад

As with everything, it DEPENDS. You can have great players for the locker room and mentoring that are only reserves 4th choice in talent. There are superstars that you build everything around that WILL decide to leave you for PSG ( Still hurting because of that, Luiz Antonio... ). Personally, I like the players that are not exactly World-class but close to it, that are loyal to the club and in your team grinding year after year. And WHEN they leave, they give you a healthy profit and you part ways amicably for both sides. Jakub Moder was that guy for me. Bought him for cheap as he was unhappy. Played great for me and raised both the teams and his own stock. Bayern came and offered 50m for him and I let him go to a bigger club for a good profit. Still plays there for meaningful minutes. I got a Brazillian wonderkid BBM that can be world class but it is not the same :P

@hosseinnemati1075 9 месяцев назад

the thing i undrstood on my tests is attributes are more important than current ability i created a team full of players with attributes that matched my tactic and the current ability of all players was between 95-110 just one striker had 130 ca all of the potential abilities was as same as current ability so the players cant improve and the team won italian serie a in first season with a wining streak and the striker outscored everybody with40+ goals as a false nine which i use always in my tactic i should mention all the hidden attributes were same players had 20 consistensy and importent matches and all the players were supporters of club and loyal and one footed so the current ability isnt as important as many persons think

@thatguyluis 2 года назад

Man, i got Enzo Sauvage in my Leamington save back in FM20, can't fuck!!!ng sell the guy cause he just keep on being the best player on the pitch despite his 2 and half star rating said so.

@mateuszstepniewski5954 2 года назад

I have some rules when looking for players. Must have highish work rate (at least 12). Preferable high strength but definately dont get a player with like 7 strength because they might have great attributes but they wont be able to use them if they are being thrown off the ball every 2 minutes. And finally passing has to be decent, I play control possesion with high tempo so I cant be losing the ball with incomplete passes and still suceed.

@KurisuKun 2 года назад

Don’t forget Determination. I don’t even sign anyone under 15.

@mateuszstepniewski5954 2 года назад

@@KurisuKun didnt zealand actually make a video saying determination isnt that good. Since then i havent paid much attention to it.

@KurisuKun 2 года назад

@@mateuszstepniewski5954 Tbh I've seen various opinions like "only cranked physicals matter" etc. Hard to say really.

@mateuszstepniewski5954 2 года назад

@@KurisuKun I guess thats because it also depends on the playstyle of the team

@youtubekullancs5530 Год назад

Messi has low workrate will you not choose him?

@Cyberphoenix88 2 года назад

3:35 Green?? It's clearly yellow!

@msherif428 2 года назад

When I glance over to one of these attribute lists, I don't see letters and numbers, just some blurry mess.

@elninotrevino 2 года назад

How do you choose the right affiliate club? Do you go off purely what league they are in or should you factor in their facilities?

@obscene. 2 года назад

Reputation + facilities are all that matter

@obscene. 2 года назад

Reputation + youth facilities + HOYD personality is how the game determines what clubs are producing on average the best youth players. So, clubs in big leagues will generally have higher reputation than elsewhere, pair this with good facilities and they will bring you strong youth players.

@LordWay 2 года назад

I am the person who sees more green and then signs someone over another player always 😳

@AagoMcFly 2 года назад

Zamudio is the Odonkor of ODFC

@IAmThatBit-- Год назад

CHAMELEON! I thought I was the only one. Great game

@stevenmohlmann9999 2 года назад

I think footedness is also important, an either footed player will play better than the same player who is only one footed

@DOLamba Год назад

Personally, I've actually went away from looking at either-footed as the holy grail. Same with players who can play a lot of positions. The more things a player can do, the more CA it takes away from abilities. I'd rather have a guy who can only play CM, but who can fill "all the roles" as CM, as someone who can cover the field, but only so-so. Obviously there's exceptions and everyone loves a good backup fullback who can use both feet and play either side. Those are absolutely golden. But I'd overall rather tailor my team to what it does well, than take the top off by having them do "everything" better. Like if you have a left footed AMR. You'll typically use him as inside forward. It's really either train his foot or train his position to me. Either footed will help him be better at AMR and AMR only. Training AML let's you have a best IF on the right and a, likely, great left winger. And they can of course play more roles to a less effect. So it's about what kind of versatility you're looking for. :)

@stevenmohlmann9999 Год назад

@@DOLamba A two footed striker will play better than a 1 footed striker because they can shoot effectively on both feet, Only for Strikers and Center Mids and CAM's do both feet being good really matter, though I have had good experiences with two footed FB being able to cross with both feet. I agree being two-footed does not really matter for FB, CB or Wingers.

@jamiemontgomery6963 2 года назад

I just saw your tactic and im just wondering how do you make a tactic like that and how does it work?

@whyjustwhy4400 2 года назад

I think he has a video on the channel about his tactics

@Roscododger 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p6JJy9fMZTg.html Here's Zealand's video on his tactic. It's changed over the months but the core features and base idea is very similar

@jamiemontgomery6963 2 года назад

@@Roscododger thanks mate 👍🏻

@WhoopsISnipedU 2 года назад

The real question is, when did Oyiriwoth go from Ugandan to danish?! Who pulled that off?!

@huw_.4998 2 года назад

Oi this may seem rlly dumb but like how do u shithouse a win against the big six or big teams In top domestic leagues on FM21 because low blocks don’t rlly work so it’s hard to restrict the quality of other teams

@thomaskarbe2302 2 года назад

Other question to look into: What is the effect of body language?

@aqdjbcr 2 года назад

What’re the exceptions for “the higher the better”. Like I know injury proneness you want 1

@kaivolax 2 года назад

Dirtiness and controversy. Also eccentricity, rushing out and punching tendencies but are more related to your tactics and personal preferences.

@yvltc 2 года назад

My favourite ever player was an Argentinian-born Portuguese striker that I bought for 5.5M from Newell's called Hernán Graziani when he was a teenager. Developed into a good striker (not elite quality, but good for a Champions league side) but hard carried my team for YEARS, even winning the Golden Boot one season. He had decent pace but his dribbling, vision, off the ball, first touch and composure were great. He single-handedly carried me to a CL semi-final, scoring all the goals against Juventus and Benfica to knock them out. I saved a few matches throughout that saved and most are just Graziani taking my team to where it really shouldn't have been.

@stephentrout7879 2 года назад

12's and 13's in everything, So James Milner.

@Ewooxkami 2 года назад

Gonna start my first FM save I’m not expecting much

@ZealandonYT 2 года назад

Good luck

@Ewooxkami 2 года назад

@@ZealandonYT got fired

@Gwynbleidd1724 2 года назад

So size does matter

@joeymacaroni4498 2 года назад

Hey Zealand when do you think FM22 going to be released?

@frieza2235 2 года назад

Mid November

@joeymacaroni4498 2 года назад

@@frieza2235 yaaay almost there

@joeymacaroni4498 2 года назад

I'll just wait for fm22 I guess,

@pbh81 2 года назад

No mention of decision making?

@cristiandora994 2 года назад

5:39 gooder

@ranng6817 2 года назад

Can you do a save on ligue 1 for next fm,i want to see how you beat psg

@SimersFM 2 года назад

Get a team that is about as good as them. It just takes time depending on what club you start with. Dunkerque 3rd tier to winning ligue 1 took 8 or 9 seasons. Once your beating psg you can win the UCL.

@ranng6817 2 года назад

@@SimersFM i also want to see how zealand deal with psg taking all his wonderkids

@landonbarb6330 2 года назад

Seeing He Xin in this video 😢

@erickbarbosa2935 2 года назад

I hated Zealand's intro in the first video I watched. I didn't liked it in the second. From the third onwards, I loved every single one of them

@thomaskarbe2302 2 года назад

Third question: How do you determine that a player has a bad day and you should sub him? Do you simply go by his game rating?

@Roscododger 2 года назад

Partly, and his body language. If he's apprehensive or complacent on top of already having a bad game, sub him.

@jamiejamie9549 2 года назад

I had a barely 2.5 star player in a journeyman save at Southampton, was a originally a winger/forward but couldn’t finish so I converted him to a centre mid. He made team of the season 3 years running. The first season he came of the bench more than he started. Was a local lad had a few loan spells, I gave him his debut and at his peak 2.5-3stars as a mezzala he consistently bossed midfields and helped me win a champions league and several pl titles. Attribute wise wouldn’t have looked out of place in the championship yet he was a god, consistently 10 goals and 10+ assists in all comps.

@SimersFM 2 года назад

Was he your set piece and corner taker? My guess is yes, these players get a major boost to average rating from assists so it’s hard to tell how actually well they are playing.

@Darkheist8819 2 года назад

The more greens the better

@AK47952 2 года назад

Funny guy

@andresgirardo8481 2 года назад

Hidden attributes are very important and we rarely take them into consideration.

@DOLamba Год назад

PA and personality/hidden is all I look at. If they're good, 90% of the time, rest can be fixed and you have a solid player at whatever he'll become. Like some nations can give just as good talents as South America, but the CA when 16 is rather low. It takes more effort, but you can shape those guys much better.

@RahibShaikh 2 года назад

how can you play without attribute analysis polygons? that's crazy to me. I've played since FM05 and the attribute analysis polygons are something I cannot play without.

@ezekielzeken2896 2 года назад

He Xin is pronounced "Her Sin" not Hee Shern

@davidp8892 2 года назад

Just use the god damn Curent Ability Calculator

@ZealandonYT 2 года назад

At that point you might as well use the editor, but even then some players are better for certain situations

@russianweeb 2 года назад

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@kirkbrasier 2 года назад

FM 21 is so F*&%ing hard, I watch your lips move but sometimes I look away...

@SimersFM 2 года назад

It’s not though. Once your familiar with the game and continue to stack good player decisions on top of one another it’s actually quite easy to win.