Great tires, came nicely packed in the box, and did not compress ru-vid.comUgkx985f3iNjxHFMO6JoE7CSGActiIEyumFx . It fitted my craftsman riding mower just fine. It is a little narrower than my stock tires but so far it has held up and works great. No air leaks and traction was great in my hilly backyard. Installation was good and was not too difficult, highly recommended.
Who cares if it breaks down over time he was going to have to buy new tire or tube anyway for 20$ A can of foam was $2 not like he’s losing much if it makes 5 cuts are a hundred it made more then the flat tire , there are a lot of haters out there I’ll give the vid a thumbs up 👍 for creativity, initiative and how to make shit happen without breaking the bank
Did this with tires on my snowblower that has molded plastic wheels about 4 years ago. Due to the plastic wheels they constantly leaked flat.. Havent had a flat on the snowblower in 4 years.. I drilled 3 holes around the bead flange of the wheel on both sides so I could use some short drywall screws to hold the tire on the bead area essentially "beadlocking" the tires to the wheels, then drilled 3 holes in the tire surface to fill the tire from the holes with the filler tube on the great stuff just as you did.. No seep out from the bead seal surface this way but of course the wheels were never coming off the tires again..
I did something similar......an old tractor had a badly rusted rim and I couldn’t find a decent replacement. So a friend and I removed the tube, made a few surgical cuts in the sidewall and filled it with concrete. We added old steel cable and a few lag bolts thru the sidewall just in case the concrete would crack. We had to use a chain and load binder to help flatten the tread but it worked ok. Had to use a loader to put it back on after a week of curing. Rode kinda rough and lost some traction but was a cheap fix. Took a few beers to help make decisions.
Cool story. My foam went flat by the end of the season. With no beers, I decided to fill mine with concrete too. It was heavy for it size, not loader heavy though, and it does ride a little rough on the drive way. Check out the video and let me know what you think. Thanks for watching.
My experience with the spray foam is that it isn't very elastic and once you exceed it's load limit or hit something hard the foam compacts, doesn't return to shape and gives you one Knarly kidney shaking flat spot.
Titus Tucker flexseal spraypaint expands after you spray it but it only triples in volume- but its bouncy flexy rubber. Just use it around the outter layer and use foam to fill the rest. Also adding gorilla glue to the foam as you spray it in there will cause the foam to become hard as a rock when it dries.
I did the same with a wheel barrow wheel and yes the foam crushes down, I just top it up with more foam. An uncle of mine had a puncture on his car out in the country side, so stuffed it with straw and managed to get home. But I'm talking way back in the 30s.
I did this to a yard trailer tire back in 2008! It was flat come spring so I aired it up and when I did it blew a 6" hole in the sidewall. I didn't put any pieces of foam in it, I just raised it off the ground and shot the foam in the hole and let it sit a couple of days. I used that trailer for another 5 years... then I trashed it because I'd used it up. The foamed tire was still holding well.
I have done this so many times, the first time was probably 20 years ago. I had my own small engine business mowers, tillers and so on, many customers with dry rot but good tread got the old foam fill repair. Don't bother trying fix a flat on them, it requires heat to set as in highway driving.
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Great Stuff foam compresses and doesn't really bounce back. It also eventually breaks down to dust. This is likely used only as an affordable short-run fix.
That foam coming out of the valve stem without it being depressed is a clear indication that you have a large leak. Probably the valve stem center piece (the part that actually presses down) needs to be turned. I remember my uncle showing me that there is a tiny tightening tool that actually turns the center piece of the stem itself and tights or loosens it.
This is hilarious! Thanks for posting. I realize the $40 for new tire and rim is a bargin. I was laughing from 4:40 until 5 mins after this video was over. Love it..
FYI...you can cover tire with masking tape before filling tire with foam...trim holes in tire flush where foam came out with hack saw blade....use black pen to disguise foam holes.
the issue with foam in tires is the foam is not rated for weight. Just running it over a flat lawn will eventually crush the foam even if uniformly around the tire and turn it to powder. Being the crushed up foam in total will take up less volume in the tire compared to expanded foam the tire will run flatter and flatter. But in a pinch I've been known to do worse.
@@chud327 oh okay I understand now. Mine always breaks loose from rim but will always just pump up of i push down on the tire. Even my rim looks new, just was looking for a way to seat the rim back to the tire so it will not leak back down again.
@@bbay1977 yeah, I am pretty good with tires, but this one was on my nerves. Did you see the follow up the next season? I filled it with concrete, I never went flat again and was s still rolling.
Go to Home Depot flooring department, get a bottle of Latex Flooring Primer. Pour couple of ounces inside tube, add about 2 psi to force liquid into small leaks, while spinning wheel.Ready to air up in about 6 hours. I see I'm not the only one who tried the foam route.lol.
I was a 15 year old kid in 1955. An old man came into the gas station with a missing fan belt. I told him we dont have a belt but I can make a belt out of some trot line cord. I said it's 12 miles to Sedan ks. you might be able to make it there. A few days later he came back in. I said did you make it to Sedan. He said hell son it's still working..our Hupmobile had a door spring for a fan belt. For tires on my 38 chevy I would find a blown tire with good tread.cut the bead off a smaller tire and put it inside. Put in a tube and I was back on the road.
Mike Ries it's bull crap. Especially if they pawn the problem off on someone else. Then they pretty much gotta get a new rim and tire and tube maybe not a rim iff you don't mind cleaning all that crap off of it
filling the tire with silicone would work and last forever but would be be more expensive than foam. maybe cutting up old tires to put inside the tire then fill it with silicone so it wouldnt take as much. been wanting to try this for years but i just havent done it. green slime works great on lawn mower tires and tractor tires.
I used to work at a mowing place in HS. Occassionally we would have to go pick up equipment from the Amish owned repair shop, usually just regular maint items for the mowers and parts for the trim & blow stuff. Zeros were just getting big then (1999-2001 era). There was always a stack of zero front wheels in their shop needing to have new tires put on, or have the rubber replaced as a result of an off-rim situation. But we never did, ever. And ours didnt for 2 reasons. 1: Owner insisted all wheels be pre-slimed. Nothing crazy, just enough to stop a nail punctute. 2: This is the most important thing.... We didn't run the mowers like everyone else. Every other zero turn user/owner besides my boss uses the zero the wrong way. They turn around at the end of each cut row and do a reverse pass on the next strip, this is inctedibly hard on the small front tires, as when they are forced to spin around it puts tons of pressure on the sidewall and bead area. After so many turns like that, and with age they just let go of the rim. The zero tire issues are not a fault of the machine, but a fault of the operators who dont know how to properly cut with them... Zeros are made for index mowing, not stop & turn like a riding mower.
The only chance of it working is if the tire is strong enough to support the weight. The small gap foam will support more weight than the big gap. I have a 8 inch tire I got at a flea market that is so old and hard it doesntneed air pressure. Works fine on my wheel Barrow. I think it probably was a trailer tire in a past life.. when I welded the wheel Barrow center in I heard the tube lose its air. It didn't matter. There are foams that work. I've been thru the Great Stuff routine.
It does work me and buddy filled a 12 foot skipper with mono-foam and it's mint bud a little 9.9 hp on the back and we were floatin on down the river.... the Grand River that is
Well there are companies trends to service tires with foam. I think they lean towards farming and tractor tires, but I understand they will do trucks tires as well. For a riding lawn mowing, i think it is a good idea, but actually the foam doesn't have the psi behind it to expand the tire for proper fitting against the rim. It may not make much difference on a mower, but I would expect it to. maybe if there were less holes the expansion of the foam may pop the tire in place, or if one could put some air line on the tire after some foam to force out the tire. Hell maybe this stuff can be used in lieu of the slime -filll about half thru the stem, then force some air in with shredder in place.
Just an FYI... you can buy expansion foam in a can, specifically designed for cars, so all you need to do is screw it onto the valve stem, and spray !! It fills with a little air and the foam. It's just designed to "get you out of trouble"... but for your job it would be fine. And there would've been Zero mess !!, no drilling, no extra foam pieces..(which was completely unecessary by the way when you are already filling with a foam !!) It is very common now in most European cars as they aren't giving you a spare tyre anymore...Merc, BMW Audi etc...
@@chud327 Hey mate. I tried finding a link but cannot seem to find them in the US!! Surely not!! Im in Australia. Anyway here are some brands to try google for yourself...maybe you will have more luck. MOTUL (DG2) - P3, Sealey SCSTR500, and Valvoline "the pump". They are about 20 to 26 bucks here so prob 15 US dollars. Sorry couldn't help you out more.
That automatic sealer works great for small tires like this....wheel barrels ect. Not that bike tire crap slime, i'm talking about the stuff in the auto store. That looks like it would get all smushy quick and fall of after the foam broke down.
that's high expansion foam, just fill it with the valve stem with the core pulled and the foam will expand and fill all the voids and the excess will come out of the stem.
I already did, it was the next spring and I filled the tire with concrete. I will put a link on a different comment. You may have to check the spam. The concrete is hold up great.
I didn't read many comments so I'm just gonna throw this out ther someone may have said this way to fix a flat I didn't look but in my experience instead of pulling valve stem an doin air hose to fill it up an I know many put spray in it blow it up an if u do that make sure u hav ur air hooked up and on before u blow it up with spray cuz will just go flat before u can get enough air in it! Only last a few seconds! I have had many flats in life an wen ur out in middle nowhere an all u hav is a air pump in toolbox an u don't have start fluid or anything flammable I have just used rope an stick or a cable chain an a metal bar it's not easy with thick tread but works if u hav no other options an make sure ur rope is strong enough to hold up to twisting it but just wrap the rope around the center the tire an squeeze it in so it will push the sides out to rim an squeeze it so u can put air into it an let out the rope/cable as it fills so it won't just come off the rim again! My daughter's husband was Gona buy a new tire cuz he thought tire was bad on my parents mower just sat all winter an I told them to not let him touch it get back to Wyoming an see y he wanted to buy new one cuz wasn't smart enough to fix it he's 28 SO VERY SAD! ANYWAYS I had it fixed in minutes with only a rope an stick DIDNT COST THEM A DIME! S now I won't let him touch shit cuz they always have to buy new shit cuz DUMBASS can't even fig out a friggin tire!
Splendid engineering. I have a coupe of videos on how I did it. The first time was ok, but the second time was the best if you want to watch one. thanks for watching.
I did the same thing on a troy-bilt tiller with tubed wheels. tires kept going flat on a job. ruined the bead tilling on flat tires after buying expensive tires and tubes from manufacturer. I filled with foam similar to this method. after the foam hardened i scraped off the excess and wire brushed the rest off. i sprayed a flat black paint on side walls of tires.
I plan to buy a couple of solid tires if this doesn't work. If I need the wheel, I will use a jig saw on the tire and scrape the foam out. Thanks for watching.
You're right Andy and the only way is to use a SawzAll and make many sections out of it and this trick should NEVER be used on anything that travels over 5 mph.
Thank you for sharing, question what would be the result if you just fill it by air valve and do not drill all the hols, thank you and have a nice day.
One component polyurethane foam sealant needs moisture from the air to cure. You may want to wet the inside of the tire first otherwise the tire core may not cure for a very long time.
Doesn't work.. The foam is when cured a non-flex material. When touched or damaged it crumbles into flakes. Using it will turn the foam into sand/crumbles and fall out. Extremely messy as well..
Using a little bit of water will quick cure the foam. Maybe try that around the bead and holes as it comes out to prevent push out. Might over pressurize...
Great idea for a quick and cheap fix on a mower for your home but I wouldn't recommend this to any landscapers. The hard tire will give you a more stiff ride so hours of cutting grass will take a much larger toll on you and the mower, which will just cost you more in the long run. Plus if you're trying to keep an even cut, say outside a business, the small obstacles and bumps will show. Coming from many years of landscaping I wouldn't choose that small difference in rigidity unless I was stuck in a situation where it was this or nothing and only temporarily or if I only had very smooth and even surfaces to cut. So it'll work but some things are just worth spending the extra money on to me.
I was planning to go to solid tires anyway and as for a stiff ride, it is actually a softer ride. The softer ride could still cause issues for pros. It was a temp fix, but I am still using the foam modification. I will try to put out an update video, maybe this Saturday. Thanks for watching.
chud327 I didn't mean to sound negative or disrespectful, this was a decent do it yourself at home fix. In my experience here in Ohio and down in Florida solid tires will only be a softer ride if your ground is wet and/or soft so that it digs ruts in your yard, which would lose me landscaping accounts but would be fine for a large backyard with natural landscaping. I'm interested in how it's held up though, in my experience the foam compacts and starts to deteriorate after a season. I haven't used this method more than once on a zero turn but any of my tractors, which are much lighter, chew through the foam in a couple months. It's usually a trail fix for me, flat front tire out in the woods with no spare or whatever.
you dont need the foam bits,take the valve out & fill,the presure of ot expanding should fill the tire,plus block th valve hole while it expends till starts coming out,keep some presure on it,we used to fill outside doors on ships with 2 part foam.
Great suggestion and BTW, last Saturday, I filled the tire with concrete. That video should be out soon. I hope to hear what you think and thanks for watching.
Instead of foam which will compress and turn to dust,maybe try using sand an cement mixed together as a almost screed like mix that you can fill the tyre with.
The tube was going to be $19.99 and I did want to buy one. BTW, yesterday I shared an update to the foam tire, it is the concrete tire. I would love to hear what you think and thanks for watching.
This worked great for me for the rest of the season. However, the next spring, I filled it with cement. I will never leak down again... Thanks for watching.
It did great, but by the end of the season, it was pretty much flexed out. It was almost like riding on a mostly flat tire. I then filled the tire with cement and no more flats. Thanks for watching.
I'm gonna try this on an old yard wagon. Never loaded heavily and only occasionally used. Has the foam in it deteriorated or gotten a flat spot, any problems? I figure that it sitting a long time with the weight of the mower on it would cause a flat spot from the foam compressing. How about an updated post. Might convince the "naysayers" here.
I am now a naysayer, it lasted me 8 months, but was then flat. However, 2 Saturdays I did you an update. In this update, I filled the tire with concrete (or mortar mix) and so far no flat spots. I don't expect any either. I would love to hear what you think and thanks for watching.
Everything is pretty great. I had to hurry home to check on the ranch, the house had no damage and the yard was not flooded. Will be much better once the power is restored... thank goodness for flashlights and candies, thanks for watching.
I will try anything. In 1963 a nut case came into a Standard station where I worked. He had this stupid thing under the hood that used a roll of toilet paper. He said.if I used one with Delo 100 motor oil I wouldn't have to change the oil and my engine wouldnt wear out Oil was nasty in those days IT Took a few days for the oil to turn golden. Been using them every since.the Rambler was almost new. If you put a bypass depth filter on a sludged up neglected engine you would get a fail.with these fuel injected modern engines it's a.piece of cake. In the old days I changed the toilet paper and added a quart of oil about every 2K Now it's about every 6K. Good luck with the foam. The Great Stuff didnt work in my load carrying tires
Expanded all right, right past the open bead and all over the place 😖. Next time spray the bead area with 3m 77 rubber cement and fill with air. Tire will stay on the bead. Next day, let out air... foam fill through the air stem. There will be no foam all over the freaking place, the tire will fit the rim round and square, and it will be solid. Dually mower is way cool!!!!
I couldn't get the tire to bead, the wheel actually had no bead. I tried bead sealer, but that failed too. I am ready to buy a couple of solid tires if the foam fails. More dually stuff some and thanks for watching.
I tried this for a wheelbarrow wheel, before long the foam will break to bits and just as useful as a flat, spend £5 on a new innertube or waste £5 on spray foam
Here in the states, it was $2.99 for the foam or $19 for the tube, I went with the foam as an experiment. As a fringe benefit, before long, the video will pay for the whole mower... I guess not I can afford that tube. Thanks for watching.
pretty sure just 2 holes would have sufficed.. I just feel like it would be optimal to obviously not only have the tired filled with foam as the end result, but also make sure to retain as much tire pressure as possible for double support. That stuff expands A LOT though, so im sure minimal holes would have worked as long as you kept the holes on the top as you filled it and let it expand. That way, any seepage would have just been access and nothing would have been wasted through the pressure created from expansion if a hole got blocked.. Did he remove the bad tube first?
If you were to take apiece of 1/4” rope Nylon or something similar and wrap it around yourTire in the center and tighten it, your tire will bead up on The rim, and then it will take air and seal. Put some Green flat filler sold at Walmart’s etc. in it then drive it around to distribute the Green Slime. This is one way Bikers fix a flat on their bike on the road.
You can finish out the seaon with this. But then it goes in the trash cause the foam will be broken down and far too much trouble cleaning out all that mess to actually fix it. I considered cause I can no longer get the bead to seal (even with rachet strap). The Slime can’t work if you can’t get the bead to seat. There’aS a local shop that urethane the tires..guess I’ll do that. But I’m not looking forward to hard tires.
Speaking of hard tires, the foam crumble after the rest of the season, so I dug it out and filled it with concrete. I don't think it will be going flat again. I made a video if you are interested... It rides good in the yard, but is a bit rough on the drive way. Good luck with yours and thanks for watching.
