Sprinter Adventure Van Build - Audio System Upgrade Part 1

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Sprinter Adventure Van Build Series Episode 10: #pumpupthejam In this installment of the Sprinter #VanLife Build series we are taking care of the terrible audio system in the Mercedes Sprinter. This allows for better tunes on the road an overall more enjoyable driving experience. This is only Part 1 as we have bigger plans for the future, but wanted something we could jam out to in the short term. We've also never done a stereo system or fiberglass before so it was a lot of fun learning and trying new things! We also have mad respect for upholstery shops now, that stuff is anxiety inducing!
** NOTE: We are not professional builders and this video is for entertainment purposes only. We base our decisions on our own research, decades of knowledge gained from building other things and always with an engineering mindset. You should always follow the manufacturers instructions, do you own research and ONLY attempt projects like this at your OWN risk.
**NOTE: Some of the links below are affiliate links and we receive a small commission for purchases products through those end points. We will never recommend a product we don't stand behind and use ourselves. Everything listed below we used for our own build and weekly, if not daily, for our other ventures. Thank you for your support!
Main Audio Components:
- #JLAudio RD900/5 - tinyurl.com/RD900-5
- #Focal Flax EVO PS 165 F3E Speakers - tinyurl.com/Focal-PS165-F3E
Recommended Supplies:
- 16awg OFC Speaker Wire - amzn.to/3YGvRbW
- 1/4" Braided Sleeving - amzn.to/45wOXUc
- Shrink Tubing Kit - amzn.to/41T8M66
- Shrink Terminal Kit - amzn.to/45mpTzK
- Tesa Tape - amzn.to/3H95Kmp
- HushTape - amzn.to/3P0UuwK
- Siless 80mil Sound Deadener - amzn.to/3KN6C24
- 3M Thinsulate SM600L - amzn.to/3YHmYyU
- 3M 90 Spray Adhesive - amzn.to/44m1uc2
- 4 AWG 5/16" Wire Lugs - amzn.to/3E5HmQE
- 4 AWG 3/8" Wire Lugs - amzn.to/3seaX7P
- KnuKonceptz Marine Power Wire - www.knukonceptz.com/marine-au...
- Loctite LB8008 - amzn.to/45veFsN
- Winged Chassis Cable Ties - amzn.to/3N6BLiY
- USC 435 Resin - www.uscomposites.com/polyester...
- USC Feather-rite Body Filler - amzn.to/44jHA1c
- USC Icing - amzn.to/3QPkIUj
- Clean Sheets Mixing Board - amzn.to/3soqmCA
- 1.5oz Chopped Fiberglass Mat - amzn.to/44k4iGF
Tools Used in this Video:
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- Dewalt Track Saw - amzn.to/3Lb4qBN
- Festool Track Saw Track (55") - amzn.to/47EHT9J
- Dewalt Impact Driver & Cordless Drill Combo - amzn.to/3F1cVfF
- Dewalt Heat Gun - amzn.to/3H94Fv4
- Dewalt Router - amzn.to/45sqGig
- Someline Ferrule Crimping Kit - amzn.to/3En6Mtv
- Wirefy Crimper - amzn.to/3KNhP2s
- Soldering Iron - amzn.to/3OEbGXH
- Socket Set - amzn.to/3H79MLY
- Brady M210 w/Shrink Tube Cassette - amzn.to/45hjUvJ
- BoiLite 330 Headlamp - amzn.to/3AjGiH4
Video & Sound Equipment Used to Make this Video:
- SE Electronics Neom USB Microphone - amzn.to/3Aac34P
- Rode PSA1 Mic Stand - amzn.to/3H96FmR
- Shure VP83 Shotgun Microphone - amzn.to/3pzc8Kw
- DJI Wireless Microphone (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) - amzn.to/3fK0DhZ
- DJI RS3 - amzn.to/3E7yTgU
- Sony AR7II - amzn.to/3CmDN9c
- Sony FE 16-35 F4 Lens - amzn.to/3ClzhI8
- Sony FE 85 F1.8 Lens (super crispy close-ups) - amzn.to/3DRMXeu
- Gitzo Traveler Tripod - amzn.to/3RfJ8U6
- SanDisk Extreme Pro SDXC Memory Card 128GB - amzn.to/3TpNlXa
- SanDisk 1TB Extreme Portable SSD - amzn.to/3Awf140
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- MacBook Pro w/Final Cut Pro and Apple Motion - amzn.to/3Te9k1V
Shop Machinery Used:
- Tormach 1100MX - tormach.com/machines/mills/11...
Video Contents & Chapter Markers:
0:00 - Why Upgrade? (Intro)
0:55 - Moonraker Design Co
1:12 - What We Are Installing & Project Overview
2:12 - Door Speaker Upgrade - Running New Wires
5:04 - Door Speaker Upgrade - Door Prep
6:23 - Door Speaker Upgrade - Custom Speaker Adapter
7:08 - Door Speaker Upgrade - Speaker Mounting & Prep Continued
8:52 - Custom A-Pillar Mid & Tweeter Modifications
15:12 - Crossover Mounting - Dash Disassembly
17:30 - Crossover Mounting - Bracket Location
19:06 - Amplifier Mounting
21:17 - Amplifier Wiring
26:14 - Head Unit Wiring & Adding Rear Speaker Connections
30:02 - Closing Remarks & Part 2 Preview
31:06 - Outro
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@GriffinConway 7 месяцев назад

Amazing work. Great attention to detail. Just subbed. One friendly note, after 30 mins I really wish there was either different music or no music. Thank you for sharing!

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated and will keep that in mind for the future content. Thanks for subscribing too, it really helps us out and motivates us to keep putting in this much work!

@mitchellcamps7595 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely stellar work

@moonrakerdesign 10 месяцев назад

Thank you, we really appreciate it!

@cody_hines 10 месяцев назад

Been loving your videos! So frikin informative. Subscribe button has been slapped. Hoping you get boosted on the algorithm 🤙

@moonrakerdesign 10 месяцев назад

@cody_hines thank you for the support we really appreciate it! Also, glad you are enjoying the content we do try to detail every step which takes a lot of time but glad people like yourself are finding value in it! Thanks again for the subscribe!

@jamestreanor182 7 месяцев назад

Dude, that’s a serious job!

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Yeah this one was the most time consuming project on the van so far for sure. Having never done an audio system like this before I didn’t realize how much effort it was to even do the simple things like running all the audio cables. You definitely end up contorting your body into some weird shapes trying to feed things up behind the dash 😅. Anyways thanks again for the support, we really appreciate it!

@ericleygues9659 10 месяцев назад

Amazing work including CNC manufacturing with the Tormach (I had a 1100 - Series 3 a few years ago and loved it!). What is the application you are using ("body and equipment guide") you mentioned at 22:28 please?. Please continue posting. Your channel will grow without any doubt! Take care.

@moonrakerdesign 10 месяцев назад

Wow thank you so much. We really appreciate the kind words!! Yeah the Tormach has been a great tool for prototyping and light production I feel really fortunate to have one! For the BEG this is a PDF from Mercedes that gives general guidelines for upfitters www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/content/dam/mb-vans/us/upfitter/220523_ARL_Sprinter_907_2022_ENU_fin.pdf Make sure to select the appropriate Model Year! Thanks again.

@luisperalta4916 Месяц назад

Bro..u are a pro

@moonrakerdesign Месяц назад

Hey Luis, wow, thanks a bunch I really appreciate it. Definitely still learning and @CarAudioFabrication was super helpful for this one!

@80spurple 6 месяцев назад

Awesome work brother! Your attention to detail and precision is 2nd to none. Would you happen to know if all sprinter head units would have the rear out available to tap into as you did. I have a 2023 2500 Cargo AWD. By default I only have the front speakers as well. Tapping the front into my amp, getting the rear signal is fader works would be nice. Anyhow, thanks for the great video.

@moonrakerdesign 6 месяцев назад

Hey @80spurple thanks for stopping by and the compliments it really means a lot to us!! Yes all sprinters headunits have those outputs for a cargo van if you didn't order EP7 you'll have to tap in with the pins like I did. If you ordered your van with EP7 there an additional dongle under the drivers seat that you can tap into for rear speakers. The only problem when you tap in like I did without the EP7 is you don't have rear fader enabled, it's a SW thing that your local dealer has to enable once you have the rear speaker inputs hooked up. Hope this helps let me know if you have any other questions!

@pfaudiozen 9 месяцев назад

Nice detail on the install. I am about to start on my van. But I am adding a dsp into the mix so I can tune and eq the sound stage.

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! Yes that will be included in our Part 2 of the install! Curious what DSP you are looking at. I think we are going to go with a MiniDSP with Dirac Live! I really like the flexibility of the inputs to output assignment which will help with our MediaMaster integration as well as the auto tuning since I know nothing about manual tuning 😅.

@pfaudiozen 9 месяцев назад

@@moonrakerdesign I was looking at the Sound Control DM-810. From what I could tell the Mini-dsp doesn't have a provision for corrective EQ to account for the head unit. But I do have extensive audio experience in tuning, :) I am also working on designing a box for between the front seats for a 10 inch sub. Based in the east bay, happy to meet up sometime. cheers pf

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

Hey PF, that’s the other one I was looking at as well. Curious about the MiniDSP not being able to correct for the factory head unit, did you explicitly see this somewhere? Sounds like I need to dig into the details a bit more! Thanks for the guidance and yes always happy to meet up with local Sprinter folks!

@pfaudiozen 9 месяцев назад

@@moonrakerdesign I didn’t see it explicitly stated but i did not see section about it which is stated in the other DSM. I am curious about how to switch between driving mode and camping mode. I have an idea about how but am curious what you have come up with

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

@@pfaudiozen hey pf, I'm in the same boat as you right now, I have some ideas but nothing pen to paper yet. Lets chat over e-mail about it would love to hear your thoughts here and I can share my plan as well - hello at farrframeworks dot com!

@chunkerbranigen5825 8 месяцев назад

Just a thought!! Have you (I’m sure you have) thought about selling premanufactured speaker adaptors you C&C’d to the public. This requires a whole set of skill set and machinery that would be a huge in investment for the average DIY selfer.

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Hey @chunkerbranigen5825 it's a great thought and thanks for taking the time to post this here! I know @DIYVan is making these diyvan.com/collections/sprinter-products/products/pair-of-2019-to-present-sprinter-vs30-cab-door-speaker-adapter-for-6-5-speaker already so not looking to step on their toes. The only thing is their solution is limited to a maximum 2.25" speaker depth. Since I wanted this bigger door speakers (3-1/16" depth) and 3-way component system I had to make these. I have made a few sets as a one off for others looking to install these exact speakers BTW! That is an option if you reach out to me by email hello at farrframeworks dot com. I've also shared the files for a $10.00 donation (takes some time to develop this stuff) if you have access to a router or mill of your own. Thanks again for the feedback, let me know if this helps 🙂

@mattkramer6512 8 месяцев назад

The reverse editing worked great to get the point across for the removal process. I’ll plug your channel on my van build videos @clarityoffgrid that we’re just getting started on. I’m afraid I haven’t got your machine shop equipment or expertise so compared to yours mine will look like a Jack job but I do have the carpentry skills and tools so will be manufacturing from that. BTW which heater do you have installed? You’re ok I guess having to remove the amp to service the heater?

@moonrakerdesign 8 месяцев назад

Hey @mattkramer6512 thanks for stopping by and glad to hear it helped you out and thanks so much for the offer to plug! I'll make sure to sub to your channel and follow along as well! Everyone has their own skills and resources and it's just so great to see people just make the van their own space! I have an Espar D2 under the seat there and I was able to cut back the amp mount far enough that I think I can service it without taking it off, but time will tell when I hit that first service interval. When I do I'll try to remember to come back here and post! Thanks again.

@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 3 месяца назад

When is part two coming out would love to see that

@moonrakerdesign 3 месяца назад

Hey there, I'm not really sure at this point since I don't have a lot of time to work on the van these days. I'm making slow and steady progress, but can only put in a bout 1/2 day per week due to other things I have going on in life.

@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 3 месяца назад

@@moonrakerdesign I know the feeling? Would love to chat about a few things if you have time

@moonrakerdesign 3 месяца назад

@@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 Sure thing send me a note at hello at farrframeworks dot com.

@Bentworkerable 3 месяца назад

I’d love to hear your setup.

@moonrakerdesign 3 месяца назад

It’s made driving and listening to music so enjoyable. I can’t wait for phase II where I add the mini-dsp, sub and rear speakers but just way too busy with other things at the moment.

@ndraju 18 дней назад

Hi Todd - did you add a separate subwoofer and do something with the center channel? I just disconnected my center channel and added a small sub under the seat and the factory system is halfway bearable! Thinking of upgrading to an Alpine 907 specific speaker system + amp which is only available in Europe.

@moonrakerdesign 18 дней назад

Hey. I haven’t added the sub yet that’s going in the wall behind the drivers seat. I ended up disconnecting the center speaker because it’s just so bad. The biggest improvement were definitely the woofers in the doors. Added a lot of nicer lows and mids. When you take out the factory speakers you can see why. They are party city quality 🤣

@dennym 4 месяца назад

Again, great job with detailed video! Any chance on purchasing a pair of the A pillar Mid-range and tweeter speaker adapter mounts you machined up?

@moonrakerdesign 4 месяца назад

Those are 3D printed and glassed in! If you shoot me an email at hello at farrframeworks dot com I can share the .stl files.

@greenwoodgarage9341 7 месяцев назад

Hope you don't have diesel heater issues. That's quite a pita to get to. Especially in the cold.

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. It's actually not a PITA to get to the heater though. The video angle doesn't do a good job showing the perspective and how much clearance is actually there but with the cut back of the marine board and pushing the amp all the way to the center of the van I have somewhat tight but full access to the heater for service. One of the reasons why I choose this shallower amp. The fact that you still have to take off the passengers seat and everything is more of a PITA in my opinion. So if you are thinking this way you might want to consider and entirely different location for heater mounting. For example in an accessible cabinet somewhere in the rear of the van.

@ese8641 9 месяцев назад

Awesome video! I am upgrading my 20221 VS30 audio right now and you have some really good tips. Looking forward to the next video and hoping that you detail how you are connecting your amp to the factory head unit. I purchased an Alpine R2 A60F which has high level inputs but not sure if this is the best method. Thinking I may add a Fix-86 dsp and feed the amps from there. Curious if you have a better solution or dsp to make the system better. Cheers!

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

Hey @ese8641 thanks for stopping by and glad the video was helpful even though we are using different HW! Right now I have the speaker level high straight from the head unit to the amp. It actually sounds pretty good like this and way way better than the factory speakers. We can turn it up and it has good sound and clarity. However, you can tell they've modified the signals for the factory speakers especially on certain songs the tweeters get a little out of control. So as you mentioned the next step on the audio system is to put in a DSP. I'm looking at 3 options and we are saving my pennies accordingly. - Option 1: Fix-86 to a TWK-88 - even if I can flatten the signal I still think because of the van is such a big open space I'm going to need the extra tune-ability of the TWK-88 - Option 2: MiniDSP with Dirac Live. I know nothing about tuning so the idea of DL getting me close to where I need to be automatically sounds awesome. This also will allow us to hook up a Media Master in the back of the van to run as our "parked" solution since it has so many configurable ins and outs. - Option 3: I've been seriously considering upgrading to an amp with DSP already built in. They are expensive but it might be a cleaning and more compact solution overall. I've been looking at the AudioControl Products as well as the higher end JL VXI amps. Anyways, I hope this helps. I'm still planning this out long term, but overall the system as is works for us short term while I spend time on some other parts of the van build. So the next video on the audio system might come a bit later!

@ese8641 9 месяцев назад

@@moonrakerdesign Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to go your route and try with the speaker inputs before I decide on a dsp. My van has an aux battery under the passenger seat to I am installing the amps in a wheel well cabinet I got from Serg Supply. Keep up the great videos loving the content and your channel!

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

@@ese8641 Awesome, I would love to hear how everything goes!! Thanks again we really appreciate it.

@davidmcbride2235 7 месяцев назад

I just got a leftover 2021 144 4X4 same color as yours. I’m a bit behind you in my conversion. I’m in the middle of speaker upgrade now. Having a terrible time snaking fish tape door to the tweeter locations. And can’t get the foam to budge. Any tips? Your videos have been really helpful!

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Hey David thanks for reaching out and and congrats on the van! Converting is a lot of work and takes a ton of effort, but it's nice to see things come together and it's super rewarding! For your current issue here it's probably best we chat over email. You can send me a note at hello at farrframeworks dot com with some pictures of where you are trying to go (I assume factory tweeter location) and I can do my best to help you out! Thanks again for stopping by!

@davidmcbride2235 6 месяцев назад

@@moonrakerdesign The pics and video you gave me totally helped me out.

@moonrakerdesign 6 месяцев назад

@@davidmcbride2235 Awesome so good to hear that!! It's really hard to capture every single detail in these videos so yeah if you ever have any additional questions reach out again and I'll do my best to share my experience! Happy converting!!

@Sprinter798 7 месяцев назад

did you have any problems with the engine whining noise when the speakers are off when the engine is running?

@moonrakerdesign 7 месяцев назад

Confirmed this morning, no issues. With the engine on and the speakers off there’s no whining sound or any other sound coming from the speakers!

@davidbare3138 9 месяцев назад

When the next vid?

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

Hey thanks for stopping by, the response to ese8641 above I think sums up the answer to this best! Let me know if you have any other questions!

@davidbare3138 9 месяцев назад

@moonrakerdesign Your build videos are Awesome. Are planning on making any of your additions like A speakers for sale?

@moonrakerdesign 9 месяцев назад

@@davidbare3138 like the whole pillar fiberglassed and wrapped? Not sure about that it was a ton of work and not sure what people would actually pay for it 😅. If people are interested in trying this on their own though I'd be happy to share the CAD file of the pillar mod I made. You'd have to modify it a bit if you plan on using other speakers though.

@davidbare3138 9 месяцев назад

@moonrakerdesign looks rad and I am sure sounds excellent. Looking forward to see you did for a sub and back half of the van.