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R.C. Sproul and John MacArthur take questions from the audience at Ligonier Ministry's 2012 West Coast Conference.

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@deancamp4914
@deancamp4914 6 лет назад
1Timothy 2 - "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus".
@cshook123
@cshook123 5 лет назад
You do know that the Catholics wrote the Bible don't you? So what you imply by this verse is not the actual meaning.
@option-sh9yd
@option-sh9yd 5 лет назад
@@cshook123 please explain
@liviDream
@liviDream 5 лет назад
@@cshook123 Depends on what you mean by catholic. Roman Catholic or καθόλου the universal church?
@bar8665
@bar8665 5 лет назад
@@cshook123 as if the original church was the same as the Vatican run Catholic Church today lol Catholics broke off from Eastern Orthodox a long time ago. Go pay the church to have someone's soul go to heaven while you're at it! Lol
@steventhury8366
@steventhury8366 5 лет назад
@@cshook123 The Apostle Paul, or Apostle Peter were not Roman Catholics. They were/are Christians.
@rdrift1879
@rdrift1879 5 лет назад
While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.” But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.” Luke 11:27-28
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
rdrift1879 doesn’t this contradict Mary’s fiat. Or are you misinterpreting this passage.
@rdrift1879
@rdrift1879 5 лет назад
@@christopherton How can I misinterpret a passage by simply quoting it?
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
rdrift1879 obviously you have an Intention for quoting that specific passage Jesus was showing that Mary had no importance. Catholics put too much importance on who she is Right ?
@rdrift1879
@rdrift1879 5 лет назад
@@christopherton What do you think Jesus is saying?
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
rdrift1879 excellent question. ‘be it done unto me according to thine word “When Mary gave the Angel Gabriel permission that His Son could be born from her. She fulfilled doing God’s will perfectly The second person of the blessed trinity became human AND BECAME SUBJECT to His earthly parents too.
@ILoveOldTWC
@ILoveOldTWC 3 года назад
We often sing at Christmas "Mary Did you know?" "Mary did you know that your Baby Boy would one day walk on water...this Child you deliver will soon DELIVER YOU?" The lyrics in that song puts the Mary of Roman Catholicism in its place. Mary needed to be delivered and wouldn't need to be if she were without sin.
@deancamp4914
@deancamp4914 3 года назад
Indeed. In Luke 2 Mary calls God her saviour - confessing therefore that she herself was sinful.
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
No catholic contests that. It is anti-catholic protestants who have wrong ideas fed to them about catholics by high profile deceivers that is a problem.
@nathanhornok
@nathanhornok 2 года назад
Why is a song addressing Mary at all? According to Sproul any address toward "dead" people is idolatry.
@FlyTour69
@FlyTour69 2 года назад
@@nathanhornok why are we still celebrating Jesus birth? He’s not a newly born anymore. Why do we still proclaim the cruxifixction? It’s not still happening right now. By the same token we sing “Mary did you know?” even though this was in the past.
@nathanhornok
@nathanhornok 2 года назад
@@FlyTour69 I agree with you. My question was rhetorical. It was directed against RC Sproul's injunction against praying to Saints. If Protestant's really took their "you can't pray to Saints" logic to its conclusion, you also would not be allowed to sing the "Mary did you know" song.
@megadeath7793
@megadeath7793 3 года назад
"No one comes to the Father, but through ME" - The Lord Jesus Christ. Not rosaries, not confession boxes, not praying for the dead - JESUS and only Him.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
Catholics DO go to the Father through Jesus.....not through Martin Luther like y'all do. You should stop making false unjust judgements about other people while you follow the reformers
@CJ-lr4uq
@CJ-lr4uq 3 года назад
@@cynthiax56 We don't go through Martin Luther. No idea who put that in your mind. We go through Christ alone. Catholics go through the saints and Mary. When you decide to value truth above your own pride and the traditions you were brought up in, your eyes will be opened. May take some serious humbling and a tragic event to occur, but I hope that's not the case and that you'll smarten up without it.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
@@CJ-lr4uq ALL protestants are following / going through Luther whether you realize it or not: 1. you use Luther's altered bible which he had no authiry to alter 2. you follow Luther's invented doctrine of "solascriptura 3. You follow his invented doctrine of "solafide" 4. Luther rebelled against the church that Jesus founded (hence the name PROTEST-ant) I will now show you the these doctrines are false: ➨ The Bible ITSELF Contradicts Luther's doctrine of "scripture alone" (solascriptura) The Bible tells us that the authority is THE CHURCH: ... ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15 The pillar & foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH. ● EPHESIANS 3:10 10 His intent was that now, THROUGH THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, ● 2 THESS 2:15 We are to hold fast to the TRADITIONS we have been given, either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ● 1 COR 11:2 I commend you because you remember me in everything, and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you. ● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did Many other things that are too numerous to be recorded in writing. ● HEB 13:17 Obey the eldars in the CHURCH. ● MATT 18:15-17 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto THE CHURCH: but IF HE NEGLECTS TO HEARTHE CHURCH let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. The True Church is a TEACHING Church: (to Teach means to impart knowledge that is not presently know....not in writing) ● JOHN 14:26-31 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not presently known....not in writing) ● ACTS 8:31: And he said, HOW CAN I, (understand scripture) EXCEPT SOMEONE SHOULD GUIDE ME? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. (The scriptures are not for individual interpretation. They need the guidance of the CHURCH. It is PROTESTANTS who are following the doctrines of a man.) ----------------------------- Luther's doctrine of "Faith alone" is ALSO False: ➨ WORKS, PENANCE, & PURGATORY (All copied from the protestant version of the Bible by me) ➨WORKS: ● REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. ● JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead ● MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. ● MATTHEW 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your GOOD DEEDSand glorify your Father in heaven. ● JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ● ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. ● MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER. ● PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. ● MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. ● LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) ● TITUS 3:14 KJV And let our's also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful. ● EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV) Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9 and they STOP before they get to number 10: 8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10): ➨ 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. ● 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away. ● MATT 12:36-37 36 But I say unto you, That every idle WORD THAT MEN SHALL SOEAK, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE CONDEMNED. (not by yout faith alone) ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) ● Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. ● Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. ● Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do ● Acts 26:20 RSV but declared first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God and perform deeds worthy of their repentance. ● Acts 2:38-40: Do Penance and be baptized everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. For this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN, and to all who are far off who the Lord our God shall call. ➨PURGATORY:. ● 2 TIMOTHY 1: 16-18. Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus. ● 1 PETER 4:6 The gospel was preached to the dead. ● 1 PETER 3:19 , Peter says that after the crucifixion and death of Jesus, that Jesus "went to speak to the spirits in prison", which means that there is a place people go to after they die that is a prison and not heaven nor hell. ● MATT 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) ● also 1 COR 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible: (2 Mace 12:46). “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they might be loosed from their sins” 1 Peter 1:17
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
@@CJ-lr4uq Now ask yourself the following question: Since the bible was written & compiled (old testament compiled, new testament written) 11 centuries before Luther was born, Did he write the bible? Did he own the bible? Obviously not, so WHO Gave him the authority to remove books from it or alter words???? Obviously, the answer is NO ONED
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
JESUS Established the gate into the kingdom (his CHURCH) 15 centuries before the protestant revolt. There is ONE Shepherd and ONE GATE. Anyoine who enters through a different gate is a thief and a robber. ➨ JESUS gives authority of the Church to PETER (not Luther, not Calvin, not Ellen White or any other "reformer" and not Constantine either) ✦ MATT 16:13-19: Jesus gives keys of the Kingdom to PETER and builds his church upon PETER. ✦ ACTS 15:7-12: "After much debate had taken place, PETER got up and said to them, “My brothers, you are well aware that from early days God made his choice among you THAT THROUGH MY MOUTH THE GENTILES WOULD HEAR THE WORD OF THE GOSPEL AND BELIEVE." ✦ JOHN 21:15-19: Jesus tells PETER to "Feed my sheep" The body of PETER now lies under the altar of St Peter's basilica. Evidence is even shown by unbiased secular media giants National Geographic, A&E & a book: "The Bones of St Peter" ➨The True Church is a TEACHING CHURCH: (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not oresently known....not in writing) ✦JOHN 14:26-31 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ✦JOHN 16:14: "When the Spirit of truth comes He will guide you to all truth." ✦ Acts 8:26-40 King James Version (KJV) 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. ★
@delnayo9474
@delnayo9474 6 месяцев назад
Oh how I thank God for RC Sproul. He was so gifted in teaching the truth in grace.
@bridgefin
@bridgefin 5 месяцев назад
He does try. But he does not have the truth.
@nametheunknown_
@nametheunknown_ 2 года назад
I love Sproul's combination of humility and confidence. That's hard to find in teachers of the faith. Thank God for his work.
@nametheunknown_
@nametheunknown_ 2 года назад
I had a notification that someone commented "There is no humility in claiming to hold the truth." It looks like they removed their comment...I assume they realized the irony of their statement.
@Blake-st6ri
@Blake-st6ri 11 месяцев назад
Humility? Haha that was the most arrogant statement I’ve heard in a while! Knowledge only puffs up. That’s in the Bible. Read the book the apostolic fathers
@nametheunknown_
@nametheunknown_ 11 месяцев назад
@@Blake-st6ri are you asking me to read a book so that I gain knowledge?
@Blake-st6ri
@Blake-st6ri 11 месяцев назад
@@nametheunknown_ no I’m asking because you don’t need to be in the dark on something that might help you understand certain things. Not to just gain knowledge, but that you don’t have just one side of the coin so to speak! I was raised Protestant and doing my research I did find out that I had it wrong in a lot of areas about doctrine. Catholics are wrong also in certain areas when it comes to Mary but it’s on the belief she was assumed in to heaven like Elijah. Also about her being sinless. She wasn’t sinless and she did die and was buried. They also are wrong about one pipe to be over the whole church and he is infallible. He’s a creature just like you and I, he’s a sinner just like us and makes mistakes. Those errors in the doctrine are serious no doubt. You have to say things out of love and remember that people are sick and need help not the back of your hand! It’s the goodness of God that leads us to repentance.
@brianhouseholder1074
@brianhouseholder1074 3 года назад
Thank you for thoroughly and truthfully explaining God's true and loving ways!! Our atonement is through Christ alone!
@honestyjustice6042
@honestyjustice6042 5 лет назад
One Mediator, Jesus Christ.
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 5 лет назад
What does that mean "one mediator?" You probably don't even know, do you?
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 5 лет назад
Still no answer, HONESTY JUSTICE? Big mouth, no response.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
ONE scriptures does not "cancel out" Another scripture, no matter how much you want it to. The following IS STILL VALID: ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: Job 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS Rev 5:8 The prayers of the saints are offered to Jesus the Lamb. We ALL intercede / mediate for one another when we pray for each other.
@lydiapetra1211
@lydiapetra1211 4 года назад
@@cynthiax56 Scripture doesn't refer to dead people like Mary....and other dead people that the Roman catholics pray to...God is against necromancy!
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 4 года назад
@David Ortiz David, 100% correct.
@girlnotoftheworld2008
@girlnotoftheworld2008 6 лет назад
Why pray to Mary when you can pray directly to Christ? Makes no sense to me.
@Kivlor
@Kivlor 5 лет назад
Jennifer, when Catholics "pray" to Mary, they ask her to pray for them, and to intercede on their behalf with her Son, Jesus. This is backed up through scripture, particularly Revelations 5:8 where we see the saints in heaven presenting the prayers of those on earth to Jesus. This is further backed up in James 5:6 "the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and those saints in heaven are truly righteous, so Catholics ask for their prayers. Additionally, the devotion to Mary, and asking for her to specifically intercede is due to Luke 1:26 "The wedding at Cana" where Mary asks Jesus to turn water to wine, and despite saying it is not His time, He does so anyways because she is His mother. So, if He is willing to do things out of the order and time that He had ordained them at His mother's request, you might ask her to pray for you, and for your prayers to be answered.
@rredhawk
@rredhawk 5 лет назад
Thanks to Christ's sacrifice believers can pray directly to the Father without the need for any other go-between. That's the beauty of salvation: Reconciliation with God.
@barbaratheard5992
@barbaratheard5992 5 лет назад
Just because Mary and the saints are in heaven, why can't we ask them to pray for us? Communion of the saints includes those still living on Earth and those already in heaven. We do not pray to the dead. Another skewed belief of our Church by the all knowing protestants
@barbaratheard5992
@barbaratheard5992 5 лет назад
@@rredhawk and when u sin you ask God to forgive u and he does? I have a question. When your child does something especially seriously wrong then confesses to you. As a parent do you forgive him and that's it or because he has done something wrong you discipline him? Why discipline him if you have forgiven him?
@xxxmmm3812
@xxxmmm3812 5 лет назад
@@Kivlor you are out of your mind, you need to get out of rcc
@sarkiesarkie4918
@sarkiesarkie4918 6 лет назад
Well said Mr. R C Sproul. Be blessed in Heaven.
@Cotronixco
@Cotronixco 3 года назад
No, he's in hell, just as the RCC said. Originally it stated the dead go to the grave (hades) but the RCC thought they'd change that to 'hell.' Either way, he's NOT in heaven. He is in the grave awaiting his resurrection. And since he's apostate, he will most likely be resurrected AFTER the 7th day, not before.
@hr2r805
@hr2r805 2 года назад
@@Cotronixco WRONG... You just spoke "Your" future... I feel sorry for YOU...
@Cotronixco
@Cotronixco 2 года назад
@@hr2r805 Which "hell" do you believe in, the first death, the second death, or Dante's inferno?
@nathanhornok
@nathanhornok 2 года назад
Is Sproul aware from heaven that you commented to him with a complement and a blessing? Do you hope he in some way is aware of your comment, or at least will become aware of it at some point in eternity? If so, you are now guilty of the same "idolatry" that Sproul just condemned. Or did you just make that comment in a completely empty and performative way that was only meant to signal to others here on earth? If so, that would make it a false display of piety. So either you admit that God is the God of the living and not the dead, where the living includes those who have died in Christ (as Jesus explained from the common use of the term "the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob"), which according to Sproul makes you an idolater, or you deny the reality of the life of those who are with God after they fall asleep, in which case your opinion forces you into constant displays of false piety.
@Cotronixco
@Cotronixco 2 года назад
@@nathanhornok Sorry, but Sproul is not in heaven. I can guarantee that. The dead are not alive. They are dead. They will be raised from the dead, not from partial death.
@paulroos8658
@paulroos8658 4 года назад
My grandmother is very ill please pray for her, ty
@stephaniedescoteaux4759
@stephaniedescoteaux4759 4 года назад
ok I did just that.
@gloriarood1523
@gloriarood1523 4 года назад
I will pray that she is received by the Lord Jesus. Blessings to your family.
@BillyN31
@BillyN31 4 года назад
jumjum151 your sick
@perrytheplatypus7661
@perrytheplatypus7661 3 года назад
@Harry Waddington the Bible commands us to pray FOR each other, not pray TO each other. There's a difference. Prayer is only TO God. Ex: James 5:16
@jobyjohn3527
@jobyjohn3527 3 года назад
How is she doing know?
@zackrangeley468
@zackrangeley468 3 года назад
John MacArthur is amazing, his views are always bible based and honest, he isn’t afraid to tell people the truth even if it makes him unpopular amongst some. Nothing but respect for him!
@barryoghagbon3917
@barryoghagbon3917 2 года назад
@Zack Rangely, You are spot on brother!
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 2 года назад
He's a pied Piper for hell.
@garykcarpenter
@garykcarpenter 2 года назад
As with Sproul
@nathanhornok
@nathanhornok 2 года назад
MacArthur's critique against asking for the intercession of Mary or Saint would also apply to asking anyone to pray for you, or praying for anyone else. It's an argument that proves too much. Obviously MacArther would be ok with asking other "living" people to pray for him, why not ask those who have passed the mortal coil and become even more fully united to Christ ("for me to live is Christ to die is gain") to also pray for you?
@user-nu3sd7zb2j
@user-nu3sd7zb2j 2 года назад
@@nathanhornok All prayer goes to God directly. Dont make an idol out of a human being.
@danieltrujillo5448
@danieltrujillo5448 6 лет назад
There is one mediator between God and man the man Christ Jesus
@thomasmcewen5493
@thomasmcewen5493 5 лет назад
More verseology, taken out of context. Paul was telling you must have something for Jesus to meditate with before God, you have been judged but mediation by Jesus to give you some mercy. Better do what Paul wrote. Not wave verses around.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 лет назад
All the more reason to belong to the Mediator's Church (the Catholic Church) than churches and denominations founded by men.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 5 лет назад
Yet the orayers of the SAINTS are presented to Jesus the lamb Rev 5:8 and Mary is the one who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. This is also biblical and it's called intercession. We ALL intercede & mediate for one another when we pray for one another. Protestants just ignore these biblical facts and cite onbly scriptures that they like
@ixtoc999
@ixtoc999 5 лет назад
Nuestros santos y la Santisima Virgen pueden interceder por nosotros, ya se ha visto millones de veces.
@amado4249
@amado4249 5 лет назад
@@georgepenton808 Catholicism is a Pharisee hub of lies and man-made tradition.
@princeharming8963
@princeharming8963 6 лет назад
Sproul has remained steadfastly and lovingly consistent throughout his entire ministry. I find this incredibly refreshing.
@princeharming8963
@princeharming8963 2 года назад
@@MichaelTheophilus906 - Could very well be. Any documentation to support the claim. Would like to look into it.
@danrebeiz4598
@danrebeiz4598 5 лет назад
Mary had a very important role. She was beloved. Her assigned role ended when Jesus came of age. He still loved her but now was in authority over her. He called her “woman” at the cross. Jesus created Mary. She didn’t exist prior to her creation. She was not there when the God spoke creation into existence. Scripture is clear that there is only one intercessor since the resurrection, and it’s not Mary or Saint whomever. It’s Jesus himself. Why do you think the veil tore in two? Praying to anyone other than God is blasphemy. Calling anyone other than Christ an intercessor is blasphemy. Please learn the scriptures. God has a lot to say on the matter.
@gracielong3566
@gracielong3566 5 лет назад
@David Ortiz Correction: The Holy Spirit is our intercessor. Romans 8:26-27 " In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God." Not one word about the saints being intercessors. The closest you are going to get to the saints being intercessors is in the book of 2 Maccabees 15:12-16. But again, these books are not the "inspired" Word of God... The Catholics might recognize them as such but this does not mean they are. Catholics make a lot of false claims... I do believe that when we die, our spirit returns to the Father. This can be backed up with the Word: Ecclesiastes 12:7 "before the dust returns to the ground from which it came, and the spirit returns to God who gave it." That verse makes no implication, though, that we are to pray to the dead or the dead intercede for us. Revelation 8:3-4 And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne, and the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel. Again, in the above verse, there is no implication that the saints mentioned here are dead. The living only can offer prayers.
@raymondmcdonald355
@raymondmcdonald355 4 года назад
Amen to the above, and even Amen and Amen.
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 4 года назад
@@gracielong3566 Kristie, None of the more than 68,000 different and divided churches and sects ever were infallible or present in order to decide which books were to be included in the Bible, only The Catholic Church was able to do it for the first time in 382 AD. That's why today YOU have a book called The Word of God, because The Catholic Church said it and you believe it. Regarding intercessory prayer to Saints in Heaven, don't forget that God is so generous that HE has given the body of Christ such UNITY that each member can pray for others. This is a great gift, as shown in: JAMES 5:16 16. Therefore confess your sins to one another, and PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has GREAT POWER in its effects. I ask you then: Are THE SAINTS in heaven, RIGHTEOUS? Do you really think that they are unable to pray for us, even though they're in the presence of God? Though the Bible tells us that we must go to God in our necessities, it also encourages us to ask for each other’s prayers. After all, salvation is a family affair. Can the eye say to the hand, "I need you not?" Neither should you say that we don’t need the prayers of the rest of the body of Christ (on earth or in heaven). In 1 Timothy 2:1-4, immediately after requesting that we pray for each other, Paul affirms that Christ is the one mediator. A mediator is one who comes between two parties with the purpose of uniting them. Christ played a role of mediation that only the God-man could. Christians are called to serve as mediators between Christ and the world. This fact, in no way diminishes the unique work of Christ. On the contrary, it manifests it. Christ is our ONLY high priest, but we are all called to be a nation of priests. (1 Pet. 2:9). Christ is the only Son of God, yet we are made sons of God through adoption. (Gal. 3:4). The Christian life consists in being conformed to Christ, and as Paul says, being "God’s fellow-workers" (1 Cor. 3:9) in his plan of salvation. To think of those in heaven as unwilling or unable to pray for us is to have a grave misconception of heaven. It is not an isolated part of the body of Christ that exists without concern for the other members of the body who are still working out their salvation with fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12). Those in heaven surround us as a "great cloud of witnesses" (Heb. 12:1), and the book of Revelation teaches that the prayers they offer for us "saints" is an integral part of the eternal worship given to God. John describes the heavenly worship in these terms: "The twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8). The angels also play a role in bringing our prayers to God: "The smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God" (Rev. 8:4). If intercession among members of the body of Christ on earth is "good and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior" (1 Tim. 2:1-4), how would such behavior not also be pleasing to God in heaven? God bless.
@christopherton
@christopherton 4 года назад
Dan Rebeiz Super ignorant. Christians are suppose to intercede for each other daily Where in the Bible does it say Mary’s role of mother ended when he cane of age Mary is the woman of Genesis 3:15 No Mary no salvation
@christopherton
@christopherton 4 года назад
Kristie Gangwer Christians don’t intercede for each other. Hmmm. Your brand of Christianity is heretical.
@villarrealmarta6103
@villarrealmarta6103 5 лет назад
Why would a person skip going to the source of eternal life? Jesus lives to intercede for us, not Mary or any other believer.
@ammonquitalig9077
@ammonquitalig9077 5 лет назад
cause mary is somehow another deity
@felicitybloomfield4620
@felicitybloomfield4620 4 года назад
God said My people perish for the lack of Knowledge. IF WE COULD ONLY READ THE BIBLE
@zaatheist
@zaatheist 4 года назад
I have and am so excited with the God's instructions. When can I get started? The Bible says I should kill- Homosexuals (Lev 20:13, Rom 1:26-32) Adulterers (Lev 20:10, Deut 22:22) Disobedient Children (Deut 21:20-21, Lev 20:9, Exod 21:15) Woman not virgins on their wedding night (Deut 22:13-21) All non-Christians (Luke 19:27) All non-Christians (Deuteronomy 13) Those accused of wickedness by at least two people (Deit 17:2-7) Anyone who works on the sabbath (Exod 35:2-3, Num 15-32-6) The Bible says women as a lesser class of human- It is shameful for a woman to speak in church (1 Cor. 14:34-5) A man must OK his wife’s words if they are to have force (Num 30:8) A woman must not teach or hold authority over a man (1 Tim 2:12) The Bible says I am allowed to enslave people- God supports slavery (Lev 25:44-6, Exod 21:2-8 Eph 6-5) How to sell your daughter as a slave (Exod 21:7-8) When to give your slave a "severe" or "light" beating (Luke 12:42-8) Its OK to beat your slave, only if they don’t die within 2 days (Exod 21:20-1) How to mark your slave (Deut 15:17)
@savedbygrace8867
@savedbygrace8867 3 года назад
Les Wood I bet your name fits you perfectly,ask somebody !
@zaatheist
@zaatheist 3 года назад
@@savedbygrace8867 I have not forgotten. The stench of religions lingers.
@kassandrasabean6020
@kassandrasabean6020 3 года назад
@@zaatheist are you telling the truth? That's um..... I don't know what to say.
@zaatheist
@zaatheist 3 года назад
Never overlook the fact that at least 50% of human beings are of below average intelligence. These are the ignorant, the unthinking and unquestioning who believe in the existence of an invisible, undetectable magic man in the sky who sometimes supposedly grants wishes if you grovel and continuously stoke his ego. They only believe these things because someone else told them what to believe and they are too stupid to think for themselves.
@jasperetale6916
@jasperetale6916 3 года назад
"who is my mother, who is my brother and sister except those sitting here........."
@user-ip8qy2gs7m
@user-ip8qy2gs7m 4 года назад
As a former devoted catholic, I used to attend the mass 5 times a week, pray the rosary daily, was a leader of a Catholic group/movement on my campus, and was visiting the seminary to become a priest! I once was questioned, If I am to die at this moment, where would I open my eyes afterwards. Although I was a devoted catholic, I didn't have an answer, the person questioning me, opened the Bible at first John chapter 5, and as he read I was amazed. The passage actually speaks about a true believer in Jesus, whom has earned assurance of gaining eternal life in heaven, through Christ. It also says that if that believer doesn't acknowledge this assurance - eternal life in heaven - he is explicitly implying that God is a liar! After this encounter, I decided to study my bible daily, although I was a Catholic who reads his bible(which is very rare here in my country). After a year of studying my Bible i saw how much the Catholic church is far from the Bible. If you are a Catholic reading this I would suggest you search the following topics: -The authority of scripture -Justification and salvation: this is one of the most important topics, how am I to be reconciled with God according to the Bible!? What must I do to be saved!? -The mass and transubstantiation (Emphasis on Hebrews 10,the "lost" book in Catholicism) -The role of saints in The Bible -The role of virgin Mary in The Bible -Purgatory and the Bible -The pope :Is he biblical, is he even in the first church!? -The first church and the history of the Catholic church, did it really start with Jesus or with Constantine centuries later!? -The apocryphal books, why did they first show up in mid 15th century? -Baptism, Is it for the babies?? , does it have to do anything with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit!? -The sacred mysteries/sacraments and the Bible: why in a time of history they were 12 and 9 and 5 and now they stand at 7? Is the sacred mystery of confession biblical!? "The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth." Psalms 145:18 God bless you all! MUCH LOVE!
@antoninoskomnenos1022
@antoninoskomnenos1022 2 года назад
That's an interesting chapter for a Protestant to start with. It's the same chapter where Our Lord said, "the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
@franciscoscaramanga9396
@franciscoscaramanga9396 2 года назад
Why is Hebrews 10 the "lost" book? And what do you mean about the Apocrypha? Don't they pre-exist the council of Trent?
@fred3893
@fred3893 Год назад
You say, 'I once was questioned, If I am to die at this moment, where would I open my eyes afterwards. Although I was a devoted catholic, I didn't have an answer'. If that is so, then you were a very IGNORANT Catholic. For a Catholic, the answer to that question is simple. The answer is "I DON'T KNOW. God will judge my heart'.
@user-ip8qy2gs7m
@user-ip8qy2gs7m Год назад
@@fred3893 exactly, you don't know thank you for your honesty the Bible speaks clearly about believers that they know their eternal destiny in Christ And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 1 John 5:11‭-‬13 I did not know also, read the Gospel of John and the letters of John, that will help you to find the truth, cheers :D
@johnraymond-pz9bo
@johnraymond-pz9bo 10 месяцев назад
User, Nobody (except those visited by Jesus or Mary and told they were going to Heaven, like Fatima children) should presume to know that they are going to Heaven. Presumption/ despair are sins against hope. You almost certainly were not in Catholic Church, but Vatican II Church aping Catholic church.
@biffalobull2335
@biffalobull2335 4 года назад
Mary, in her prayer of praise, pointed to her Saviour as all sufficient. She knew.
@Rixster53
@Rixster53 4 года назад
Biffalo Bull 100% correct Biff! If Mary was sinless she wouldn’t have to go with her husband Joseph to the temple and offer the doves for HER cleansing and purification to keep the law... no doubt she was a godly woman but she has NO PART in our New Testament salvation by grace through faith in Jesus. Christ!
@biffalobull2335
@biffalobull2335 4 года назад
@@Rixster53 Amen.
@christopherton
@christopherton 4 года назад
Rixster53 Jesus was sinless abd was baptized ? Mary had no part in your salvation ? Didn’t she give the Father permission to be the savior’s mother ? What if she said no thanks. ? All you protestants have zero knowledge about true Christianity
@christopherton
@christopherton 4 года назад
Rixster53 If she didn’t offer the sacrifice in the temple THAT WOULDVE BEEN A SIN. But don’t let me screw up your tiny world and hatred of Mary.
@biffalobull2335
@biffalobull2335 4 года назад
@@christopherton and you appear to have a lot of roman knowledge, but little scriptural. She called Christ her SAVIOUR. One who is perfect has no need of a Saviour. Mary had 0 part in my salvation. There is no salvation apart from Christ.
@BeingRomans829ed
@BeingRomans829ed 2 года назад
Outstanding answers by two titans of the truth of the Gospel. And RC. You gotta love him; adds a touch of humor at the end of his answer. Praise God! RC's with Him now, enjoying the glories that we all dream of.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 10 месяцев назад
Who gave them permission to preach the gospel? That right belongs to and it's dispensed by, the church.
@mooreoftammie
@mooreoftammie Месяц назад
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 no. GOD gave them the directive to disciple the nations. Not “the church.”
@heathwells3564
@heathwells3564 5 лет назад
There are to be no other gods before God. This includes Mary and any other person or thing one would worship
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Luke 11:27-28.
@heathwells3564
@heathwells3564 3 года назад
David Ortiz you sir are elevating Mary over Jesus. Mary is Not equal with Jesus / God, no one is. That is what the Bible teaches. The Catholic Church teaches just what you mentioned. You can believe what the catholic religion teaches, but that is not what the Bible teaches. Jesus is to be elevated above every other person. Mary’s death was not even mentioned. It is not because she is not important, but that she was not to be made out as equal with God. Jesus knew the Devil would try to ensure some focused on her rather than Jesus. Mary was also born with original sin, just like everyone else. This is not opinion but biblical. No where in the Bible does it say Mary was to be worshipped, was equal with God or was without sin. Again, you can believe what you want, but what you cannot do is speak opposite of the Bible teaches and claim it is from the Bible
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 года назад
@@heathwells3564 Amen! Preach it brother. As light destroys the darkness so does the truth the lie.
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Your answer to whom?
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Luke 11:27-28.
@JustMe-fs2yh
@JustMe-fs2yh 3 года назад
Two voices of sanity in a insane world, Thank you
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qrr-nodLb9g.html
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 5 лет назад
Whenever I ask Catholics why they pray to Mary when the Bible says not to, the usual answer I get is this: "We do not 'pray to Mary', we ask if she can pray for us." Isn't that the exact same thing in this case? You're asking someone who has passed away to pray for you. That is literally praying to the dead.
@ammonquitalig9077
@ammonquitalig9077 5 лет назад
then they will have another come back, its just an endless loop..you have to wonder though why it never ends. The catholics have made this catechisms and are so much deeply rooted in them. It never does, it takes a self examination to see things in a different point of view. To me, whats real troubling is the increasing number of young atheists, believing in their own truths...
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 5 лет назад
@@ammonquitalig9077 I hear ya bro. But we know not what God has in store for us yet. And is His will not for our good? We may not feel comfortable, or happy, or like singing from time to time. But He knows what the future may bring. I would say, never stop seeking righteousness, never stop loving, never stop wanting to know God more and serving Him. On top of that, be patient. You are here for a reason, and may God show you soon what that reason is if He hasn't already! Trust in Him. You see people falling away, yes. But they may very well, in many numbers, come to a realization on how empty their lives became. That's when God will call upon the fishers of men ;)
@jimmyross4352
@jimmyross4352 5 лет назад
W.L the Bible says not to? Perhaps you could read the story of the wedding at Cana. We ask Mary to pray for us because Christ cannot refuse Her. She's His Mom !! Can you refuse you're mother? If you think Western Catholics got it wrong, you might want to read the Akathistos Hymn, and see for yourself what the original, unchanged, two thousand year old Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church thinks of ''Theotokos''. Yes, the Orthodox church may very well have been ''The best kept secret in America'' , but now, thanks to the internet, many Christians are catching on to the only Christian Church that worships GOD any where close to the way HE spent 5 chapters explaining how-to in Exodus. Last but not least?
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 5 лет назад
@@jimmyross4352 Yes, I've read that. About ten times more so, because some Catholics refereed back to that. I will be honest, when referred to sources I check them out. Chances are that you are right. However, there's numerous points that are in flaw here if you use the wedding at Cana to support praying to Mary as Biblical or Godly. 1) Mary was still alive (as in, of this World). So her asking Jesus (interceding) was as simple as a mother asking her son. Nothing in that part seems to suggest we should ask Mary to intercede for us now. 2) You say it is in the Bible that "we can [therefore?] ask Mary to intercede for us". Give me some scriptures, mate. None of the Catholics I've met yet have given me such scriptures. That doesn't bother me in itself - it only supports my point anyway. What does bother me is that, if there's no scripture on this and God has never told us to, then we're talking about a major deception. And if that is so - which I'm starting to strongly believe is the case - then millions of people are told to pray to a dead Mary who does not and will not intercede for us. 3) Mary has passed away. Only Jesus has risen and never died again, that I believe wholeheartedly! Know that 'having died' means 'separation from' also. So in that sense, Mary is now separated from us. So any spiritual thing that suggests we can pray to her is a deception. And the strongest support for that is the fact that Jesus Himself said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Nobody comes to the Father EXCEPT THROUGH ME". If we could come to the Father through Mary, or even if we could come to Jesus through Mary, would Jesus not have told us so? But He has said strictly that only through Him can we come to the Father. On top of this, why would we even NEED Mary when Jesus already offered Himself to intercede for us to the Father? 4) Can I deny my mother? Well, if she had made a sloppy meal and said it was a great meal, I would deny that xD But seriously, what argument was that supposed to be? I know Jesus did not refuse Mary WHEN SHE WAS STILL ON EARTH. But her task in this World is DONE. She has 'passed away'. I can't put it any stronger than that.
@ryancain6012
@ryancain6012 5 лет назад
Asking your friends to pray for you is not idolatry. Asking your pastor to pray for you is not idolatry. Asking St. Paul to pray for you is not idolatry. There's a world of difference between "praying to" and "asking _____ to pray for" you. This isn't a theological issue it's a grammatical one. Diagram the sentence and the difference is plain. Praying *to* Mary would be idolatry; asking her yo pray for you is not big deal and is never forbidden in Scripture. The issue of idolatry is one of our Protestant misunderstandings, a non-issue.
@sabah4123
@sabah4123 4 года назад
We are ex-Catholics, after searching the Scriptures, set free & saved. 🇦🇺 is waiting for you! 👍
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
That's because protestants ONLY pick scriptures that suit the protestant agenda
@Romans8-9
@Romans8-9 3 года назад
@David Ortiz The Bible precedes the Catholic church by centuries/millennia.
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
You have left the pure gold of the Catholic faith for imitation jewellry because you didn't know your own catholic faith deeply. And this is true of all catholics who leave the church. As for Mary she is biblically "full of grace". "the power of the Most high overshadowed her" just like the Ark of the covenant of which she is a pre-shadow. Mary is again mentioned in Revelation 12:1 ► A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. Mary whom the power of the Most High overshadowed is also the Queen of the 12 tribes of Israel who bore the almighty son of God in her womb and suffered with him and is glorified with him as we all will be one day. [Luke 2:35] Then Simeon blessed them and said to His mother Mary: “Behold, this Child is appointed to cause the rise and fall of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed- and a sword will pierce your soul as well.” This is the key to understanding Mary's role as the New Eve.
@loremaster234
@loremaster234 3 года назад
@@nelsonfernandes5729 I find it interesting that Catholics degrade "protestants" for adding their own doctrine and yet almost everything mentioned, besides the actual verses themselves, are non-existent in the Bible. The woman in Revelation, for example, was in pain during labor, but the RCC claims Mary felt no pain. So, how is that woman Mary, and not Israel? Secondly, there is no mention at all by Christ Himself of Mary being the "pre-shadow" of, or New, Ark. That is literally someone's own interpretation a part from the Word of God. Hmm. Perhaps Mary also had a "sword" pierce her "soul as well" because she had to witness her son's death? That would pierce any mother's soul. Not really sure what else that would mean, and it if did mean something else, surely the Word of the Most High God would have mentioned it.
@herbstzeitlose1616
@herbstzeitlose1616 3 года назад
@@loremaster234 can you show me where it says in the bible that everything the church proclaims has to be in the bible, or has to be written there. 2. where in the bible is which speciHc scriptural canon you have to observe? Whre you found Sola Scriptura in the Bible ? or that you would be reborn through a prayer of surrender? please indicate biblical passages..
@annchovey2089
@annchovey2089 6 лет назад
As C.S. Lewis one said - What kind of mother would want more attention than her son?
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
What kind of son would not greatly honour his mother?
@annchovey2089
@annchovey2089 3 года назад
@@nelsonfernandes5729 Jesus did honor his mother. He asked John to look after his mother after he was gone. Nobody in the Bible is recorded as having prayed to Mary. I'm not saying you don't go to heaven, but why would you pray to Mary when you have Jesus? He created the world so he can definitely answer billions of prayers at once. Jesus doesn't live in the scope of time where he listens to one pray and then the next one. Time is non-existent. He lives in the perpetual present.
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
@@annchovey2089 Why would many Protestants rush to their Pastors for prayers when Jesus can answer billions of prayers at once?
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
@Linet Akinyi Mark 12:27 ► "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"
@nelsonfernandes5729
@nelsonfernandes5729 3 года назад
@Linet Akinyi [John 11:26-27] Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies. 26And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
@MCS1993
@MCS1993 4 года назад
Anything that undermines,minimizes and ignores the Holy sacrifice in the Cross is not from God
@user-ip8qy2gs7m
@user-ip8qy2gs7m 4 года назад
that what the catholic church does repent
@1234poppycat
@1234poppycat 4 года назад
Anything that undermines, minimizes and ignores the Holy sacrifice in the Cross is not from God ….. Catholic teaching for the last 2000 years
@surferdude8086
@surferdude8086 4 года назад
@@1234poppycat The RCC hasn't been around for 2000 yrs. Do about 2 minutes of due diligence and you'll learn that the RCC was started around 500a.d.
@1234poppycat
@1234poppycat 4 года назад
@@surferdude8086 Catholicism Popes from Peter to Francis 2000 years and counting. St. Peter (32-67) St. Linus (67-76) St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88) St. Clement I (88-97) St. Evaristus (97-105) St. Alexander I (105-115) St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I St. Telesphorus (125-136) St. Hyginus (136-140) St. Pius I (140-155) St. Anicetus (155-166) St. Soter (166-175) St. Eleutherius (175-189) St. Victor I (189-199) St. Zephyrinus (199-217) St. Callistus I (217-22) ) St. Urban I (222-30) St. Pontain (230-35) St. Anterus (235-36) St. Fabian (236-50) St. Cornelius (251-53) ) St. Lucius I (253-54) St. Stephen I (254-257) St. Sixtus II (257-258) St. Dionysius (260-268) St. Felix I (269-274) St. Eutychian (275-283) St. Caius (283-296) Also called Gaius St. Marcellinus (296-304) St. Marcellus I (308-309) St. Eusebius (309 or 310) St. Miltiades (311-14) St. Sylvester I (314-35) St. Marcus (336) St. Julius I (337-52) Liberius (352-66) St. Damasus I (366-84) ) St. Siricius (384-99) St. Anastasius I (399-401) St. Innocent I (401-17) St. Zosimus (417-18) St. Boniface I (418-22) St. Celestine I (422-32) St. Sixtus III (432-40) St. Leo I (the Great) (440-61) St. Hilarius (461-68) St. Simplicius (468-83) St. Felix III (II) (483-92) St. Gelasius I (492-96) Anastasius II (496-98) St. Symmachus (498-514) ) St. Hormisdas (514-23) St. John I (523-26) St. Felix IV (III) (526-30) Boniface II (530-32) ) John II (533-35) St. Agapetus I (535-36) Also called Agapitus I St. Silverius (536-37) Vigilius (537-55) Pelagius I (556-61) John III (561-74) Benedict I (575-79) Pelagius II (579-90) St. Gregory I (the Great) (590-604) Sabinian (604-606) Boniface III (607) St. Boniface IV (608-15) St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I) (615-18) Boniface V (619-25) Honorius I (625-38) Severinus (640) John IV (640-42) Theodore I (642-49) St. Martin I (649-55) St. Eugene I (655-57) St. Vitalian (657-72) Adeodatus (II) (672-76) Donus (676-78) St. Agatho (678-81) St. Leo II (682-83) St. Benedict II (684-85) John V (685-86) Conon (686-87)
@randyflores2933
@randyflores2933 3 года назад
Amen
@marebear09
@marebear09 4 года назад
"Other than that, I don't have an opinion." 😜
@marebear09
@marebear09 3 года назад
@@jobyjohn3527 Because according to the Bible there is one mediator between God and man and that person is Jesus. He is the perfect High Priest, He is sufficient, We do not need another. We can hold her in high regard because she was indeed highly favored. But to esteem her more than that by praying to her, etc. is idolatry.
@dcar9859
@dcar9859 3 года назад
@@jobyjohn3527 Because scripture teaches there is only ONE MEDIATOR Timothy 2:5 it says “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” Why is Christ the mediator and not the Holy Spirit? Because Christ in assuming flesh became the “kinsman redeemer” who brought us to right relationship with the Father. Only the Son bridged the gap between us and God the Father. and scripture says because of this in Hebrews 4:14-164 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
@qesther1241
@qesther1241 3 года назад
@@jobyjohn3527 Mary did not perform any miracles. She was just a human. Jesus was God come to earth. Praying to Mary is idolatry. Did Jesus tell you to pray to any saints?If it can’t be found in the Bible then it is not true. Jesus/God/The Bible DID NOT TELL YOU TO PRAY TO ANYONE EXCEPT. see JOHN 16:23
@robinfoster7076
@robinfoster7076 3 года назад
There have been several claims of seeing a vision of Mary throughout history and pretty much all of the observers said she had the rosary in her hand. Mary was Jewish, so she would not know what a rosary was. As far as I know,the only faith that uses prayer beads is Islam. In fact Mary would be horrified to think that she is placed on the same level as GOD. IM JUST MAKING AN OBSERVATION
@miketerry581
@miketerry581 2 года назад
NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,
@stephaniedescoteaux4759
@stephaniedescoteaux4759 4 года назад
I miss RC Sproul still.
@Wgaither1
@Wgaither1 4 года назад
Me too
@KevinsHeaven
@KevinsHeaven 3 года назад
More people need to hear this and understand.
@loucontino4804
@loucontino4804 11 месяцев назад
And many have heard and do not understand. We have to pray for them.
@dancinguy99
@dancinguy99 3 года назад
Thank God for His eternal word, & promises to us thru the word.. His mercies never fail. The just shall live by faith... In Christ (alone)
@ParaSniper2504
@ParaSniper2504 5 лет назад
Despite having grown up Roman Catholic, I agree completely with the late R. C. Sproul.
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 5 лет назад
R.C. is in the next life now and has come to understand all his theological errors, including his disrespect for the One who is the New Eve and Queen of Heaven
@Hayzues50
@Hayzues50 5 лет назад
You did not listen to a thing what RC sprole spoke about. You love the traditions of man than the truth of Gods word. I hope you and many catholics come to realize that conclusion.
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 5 лет назад
@@Hayzues50 I didn't have to listen to R.C. Sproul. I was a PCA Calvinist for 13 years and he was one of our heroes. I have heard him speak, I know the errors of Calvinism, and I repeat what I said earlier - he is now in a place of greater enlightenment and has come to understand his errors. God's Word is Jesus. The Bible is a collection of writings which A.) point to Him B.) tell us what He taught and C.) tell us how to worship. You speak of "traditions of men," but what are you following if you follow a religion which was invented by men some 1500 years after the Apostles and Christ? If you want the truth, go back to the Early Fathers of the Church and study what they wrote. They learned directly from the Apostles, therefore, what they teach in regards to the Sacred Scriptures should be important to you.
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 4 года назад
@@jumjum151 When you see the great majority of the Fathers of the Church teaching the same thing, you should be sure that this is something that the Apostles handed down, unlike Calvinist heresies which were developed in the 16th century.
@IrishEddie317
@IrishEddie317 4 года назад
@@jumjum151 You show your complete historical lack of knowledge with these statements. The united Church condemned Arianism. That some were heretics did not change the truth nor the mind of the Church. As for Calvinism, you can't prove it other than by terribly distorting the Bible and the message therein. Like all other religions within the Christian sphere that exist outside the apostolic faith found in Holy Orthodoxy, you have an interpretation of the Scriptures, that is, you look at them and decide "Well, this means that." For instance, you deny the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, yet a simple reading of Christian history shows that this denial didn't start until the 16th century. It shows that from the very beginning, the Christian faith taught that the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Christ - what we in the Orthodox Church refer to as "the Holy Mysteries." If you are a Reformed Baptist, you deny Acts 2:38 and the fact that the Christian faith taught in the beginning that baptism washes away sin. You teach a horrendous doctrine called "predestination" in which God is a monster who, without any reason at all, damns some to eternal conscious torment. Yet the Bible states that God is love. Do you ever stop to think about how those two ideas conflict seriously with one another. As for not following the Bible, I will give you the following to read: http4281.wordpress.com/2019/01/21/calvinists-and-sola-scriptura/ http4281.wordpress.com/2019/01/19/what-exactly-are-we-doing-wrong-a-liturgical-challenge-to-calvinists/ As an X-Calvinist myself, I welcome further discussion on the errors of Calvinism.
@confused353
@confused353 10 лет назад
1 Cor 3 “For when one says, “I am of Paul, & another, “I am of Apollos,“ are you not MERE MEN?...What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you BELIEVED, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one....For NO MAN CAN lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is JESUS CHRIST...whether Paul or Apollos or CEPHAS (PETER) or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, & you belong to Christ, & Christ belongs to God"
@jackfanning7952
@jackfanning7952 4 года назад
@@edwardhill7045 The cornerstone of the church is faith in Christ and the gates of hell can not stand against that. Christ is the solid rock on which we stand; our great high priest. There are none beside Him in authority over the church. Think about it. Why would God the Father send His beloved Son to die on a cross to save us from our sins and thyen immediately after that appoint mistake-prone, fallable Peter to head His church? We already have a great high priest who lives forever.
@jackfanning7952
@jackfanning7952 4 года назад
@@edwardhill7045 We will disagree on this. God has no intention of building His church on anyone other than Jesus Christ, certainly not the disreputable bunch that have been popes throughout church history.
@jackfanning7952
@jackfanning7952 4 года назад
@@edwardhill7045 On Christ the solid rock I stand. All other ground is sinking sand.
@johnthomas8297
@johnthomas8297 4 года назад
@@jackfanning7952 Catholics say we believe scripture too. When I ask what else ? Their catholic chruch tradition which chruch teaches them . Ok well and good So when u believe both.it should not be contrasting to one another am I right? Yes it should not . So when scripture says against ur belief. Ur catholic chruch tradition should not override that , am I right ? Yes i am. Ok now i wil answer u with scripture that ur beliefs are wrong OK now wil start. John 14:13-14 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. He said to ask him . Did he say ask mary ? .. no scriptures supports that except catholics tradition If u say god didn't say not to ask mary Then I wil say scripture jesus is the only mediator And it also doesn't say mary is not So do u believe mary is a mediator? No rite ..ok So now answer when did god gave power to mary to listen all 1.2 billion catholics pray at the same time. He also says Isaiah 42.8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. He said he wil not give to another .Whether he says he gives to mary .. Scriptures doesn't support that except catholics tradition Ecclesiastes 9.5.6 ( old testament) 5 For the living know that they shall die: but hthe dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for ithe memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is know perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Did god say mary wil remember? No Psalms 146:4 ( old testament) When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. This is Same for mary too. Deuteronomy 10:17 (old testament) 17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. God clearly says no partiality . Does he exempt mary and gave power ? No Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. God says that infront of him all are equal. He did not give exemption for mary. Does he ? No Jeremiah 29 .12 (old testament) Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. God said to pray to him . Did he say to pray to mary ? No Because some catholics say they ask to mary and not pray Some catholics say they pray to mary and not worship Psalm 18.6 (old testament) In my distress I called to the Lord; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears. God said he heard the voice .obviously yes he is the god . He has all powers over pall his creation Does he say mary can also hear ( after entering eternal life )? No Exodus 20:4-5 ( old testament) 4 d“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 eYou shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am fa jealous God, gvisiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, God clearly says not to make any statues or graven carved images under the heaven and bow to them .. But see u make statues of mary .. u bow and u ask or pray it is against scripture Leviticus 26:1 ( old testament) Ye shall make you no aidols nor bgraven image, neither rear you up a ||standing image, neither shall ye set up any ||image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the Lord your God. Again god said not to make any idols and graven images and bow to it . But u make those idols and bow to.it and pray or ask to it . 2 Chronicles 33:15 ( old testament) 15 He took away uthe foreign gods and the idol from the house of the Lord, and all the altars that he had built in the mount of the house of the Lord and in Jerusalem; and he cast them out of the city. He said to take away idols from the house of the LORD But u make idols .. keep inside the house of the LORD and bow and pray or ask to it. 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, All Scriptures are god breathened. So all Scriptures are true So I have answered with scripture words that ur beliefs are wrong And now u have to answer where did god gave power to mary to listen all 1.2 catholics request at the same time and transfigure to all 1.2 billion catholics at the same time I know there is no scripture proof If u have any then answer with scripture proof then answer with it As I know no scriptures supports that Atleast give some logical explanation And no assumptions are accepted. See ur ultimate goal is to attain god All denomination ultimate goal is to attain god We all seek god directly as Scriptures says that But why catholics need to ask mary to pray for u to seek god . Did god said to ask mary to pray for u to attain him? No Our almighty god is kindest of kindest so u can directly ask god without any recommendations from dead human ( any way dead human cannot hear ur request to pray for u )
@jackfanning7952
@jackfanning7952 4 года назад
@@johnthomas8297 I agree. The Bible does not instruct us to pray to Mary. Jesus is our great high priest and the mediator between God the Father and mankind. God does not want anything or person between us and Him. He has provided the Holy Spirit to reveal His will to us and help us understand scripture. Mankind has repeatedly rebelled against God by inserting rituals, idols and people between us and God. You do a good job of referring to scripture that backs up the theology you present.
@filomenapamela8178
@filomenapamela8178 2 года назад
An awesome message which all Catholics around the world should hear, know the truth and be saved. Focus our eyes on Jesus and everything in this world will fall into place. Amen! Hallelujah!☺❤💖💕
@christophermclean3921
@christophermclean3921 Год назад
We do focus on Jesus and the truth. Amen
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 10 месяцев назад
Who do you think the Mass is all about? Duh
@donaldcooley897
@donaldcooley897 3 дня назад
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 It is a pagan ritual .
@cherylbaker3353
@cherylbaker3353 4 года назад
Amen one way to heaven saved by grace through faith not of works only through the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ
@jobyjohn3527
@jobyjohn3527 3 года назад
Sis, Are u a Catholic, if yes!.. Greatings from India. I am a Catholic, I am full of confused. Please help me, I am requesting you,🙏🙏🙏🙏, I was very much depressed because of some thing related to my life and recently I had met a lady (I like call her as my SISTER because I respect her) she was very much helpful for me because whenever I speak to her I feel somewhat reliefed, but she doesn't believe in Mother Mary and Sanit so she is telling me not to pray with Mary and Sanits, since u r from Catholic, I need ur help, she is connected to through email. So will please help me to answer her questions please 🙏 I am requesting you.🙏🙏🙏. Below I am mentioning my email id (or else if u need any other social media..I can provide you). I am waiting for your reply....🙏🙏🙏 please reply.. jmjjoby333@gmail.com
@ivetaf3855
@ivetaf3855 4 года назад
I left Catholic Church after 30 Years and God led me to do so . ..also by concrete Bible Verses in order not to take part in her Sins !
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 4 года назад
You made a great mistake. Jesus founded only one Church, The Catholic Church. What's sad is that you have no idea of what the Church teaches.
@ivetaf3855
@ivetaf3855 4 года назад
@@joecastillo8798 Your answer shows me that you have no clue ....sorry .
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
It wasn't GOD who led you out, Martin Luther invented protestantism, not God.....unless your God is LUTHER, that is... The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: Job 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. The KING Honours his mother's request: 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” The Claim that Saints are among the dead, and we are forbidden to contact them is ALSI false: ➨SAINTS are not among the dead, They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 4 года назад
@@cynthiax56 My dear Cynthia, Beautifully said! A brother Catholic apologist. Many blessings.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
@@joecastillo8798 Many thanks, sir xoxox
@jessemorris3258
@jessemorris3258 4 года назад
"I am the way,the truth and the life. No man come to the father but through me" -Jesus That 1 verse alone destroys the praying to others besides him. I used that with a catholic friend once. She was speechless. Couldn't answer me when I challenged her with that because she believed in praying to Mary and the saints
@dman7668
@dman7668 3 года назад
Sorry, that doesn't destroy the Catholic practice. You met a not well learned Catholic. When one prays through intercession prayers one is not going around Jesus. As members of Christ's Church the Blessed Virgin Mary is part of Christ's body. She has Christ's favor so it does nothing but benefit the believer to ask for her to pray for you on your behalf. She is a powerful intercessor as evidenced by the wedding feast where she does something nobody else does in the entire bible, change Christ's mind. He performs the miracle of water into wine at her request. This also prefigured the eucharist. Where the bread and wine at the last super becomes Christ's literal body and blood.
@dman7668
@dman7668 3 года назад
James 5:14-15- James says the prayer of the priests over the sick man will save the sick man and forgive his sins. This is a powerful example of men forgiving sins and bringing a person to salvation with the sacrament of the sick.
@dman7668
@dman7668 3 года назад
@Bobby Allen How do you know Mary was not a perpetual virgin?
@charliejohn1
@charliejohn1 3 года назад
@@dman7668 She had other children. I'm sure she liked sex like any normal woman.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
JESUS establishe the way into the kingdom of god.....HIS CHURCH> (The Catholic church) There is but ONE Shepherd and ONE gate. You are going through Martin Luther and We Catholics have been going through the proper gate establishede by Jesus whiloe you follow the reformers and attack the true christians
@Mixuni
@Mixuni 3 года назад
I just pray to Jesus to guide me. As well as my family.
@loremaster234
@loremaster234 3 года назад
Good. That is what the Gospel of the Kingdom of God actually calls Christians to do. Interestingly enough, it does not mention praying to anyone else. In fact, the Bible, Old and New Testaments, make it clear that you are to pray only to God. Keep the faith, Mix, and may our Father in Heaven bless you in Jesus' name. Praise be to God. Amen!
@johncherry2205
@johncherry2205 5 лет назад
R.C.Sproule, A great man, dearly missed
@stykemccormack3741
@stykemccormack3741 3 года назад
As a former catholic my sympathy goes out to catholics who genuinely beleive that their rituals and rites are correct but no catholics are taught scripture from the bible its catholic dogma but then if we understand that no one can come to christ unless god the father calls them so the veil is over not just catholic but most peoples eyes
@chrispitrakkos8925
@chrispitrakkos8925 6 лет назад
Hi brother, also just want to add that in Hebrews 7:25 says who always intercedes for us, only Jesus, that is why we always pray and ask in Jesus name.
@marciadiehl5733
@marciadiehl5733 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Excuse me. The seed of the woman is Jesus Christ. The seed of the serpent is the anti-christ.
@antoninoskomnenos1022
@antoninoskomnenos1022 2 года назад
It says Jesus intercedes for us, it doesn't say he's the only person who intercedes for us. Paul told us in 1 Timothy 2:1 that we should also intercede for people. By the way, Catholics only pray in the name of Jesus or the Trinity. They never pray in anyone else's name.
@sherwina11
@sherwina11 4 года назад
Mary was a wonderful believer who is still sleeping in the grave awaiting the first ressurection when Christ returns for all who have accepted him as the only way to eternal life
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
Wrong. Mary is alive in Heaven as are all the saints.
@pauldraben7899
@pauldraben7899 4 года назад
The soul goes to be with Christ in heaven & the body is in the ground. Coming the rapture the soul will be reunited with the body first & those who are alive will taken to be with the Lord.
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
@@pauldraben7899 Yes, Paul, that is correct. That's what the Catholic Church teaches.
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
@Chuck Anya Any "Christian" preacher who teaches different doctrine than that which has been taught down the centuries by the Catholic Church is a false teacher. According to St. John if we co-operate with them in any way we become partners in their evil work. (Which, by the way, proves that ecumenism is not biblical, anti-biblical, actually.)
@berniemckean2991
@berniemckean2991 4 года назад
George Penton Does the Catholic Church refer to Mother Mary as the queen of heaven in prayer
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489 5 лет назад
This was great information. Thanks.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE: ... Including proof that saints are not among the dead The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transformation of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.
@ronaldwatson1951
@ronaldwatson1951 5 лет назад
Very Good and informative goes back to the saying that everyone that calls on the name of Jesus wil not be saved due to unbelief
@alan137
@alan137 4 года назад
I think you mean to say not everyone who says to Jesus "Lord, Lord" will be saved because they never truly believed in Him. Big difference.
@ronaldwatson1951
@ronaldwatson1951 4 года назад
@@alan137 I guess that's a play on words, but you're correct. I can only say as a war fighter, there's a God, and No disciples headed a church, holiness only! Too much theology. Have a Blessed day.
@ronaldwatson1951
@ronaldwatson1951 3 года назад
@David Ortiz not works fool only Faith, hopefully you're not practicing praying to Mary??
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 3 года назад
@@ronaldwatson1951 Many forget Jesus already existed befor Mary gave birth.
@ronaldwatson1951
@ronaldwatson1951 3 года назад
@@eddieboggs8306 you're absolutely 💯 Right, may fellow citizen in the kingdom to come.
@dmustakasjr
@dmustakasjr 7 лет назад
Mary cannot hear you. She is not Omniscient. nor Omnipresent.
@datchet11
@datchet11 7 лет назад
Demetrios Mustakas Jr. yes exactly, Jesus is not Mary.
@jobbz9107
@jobbz9107 7 лет назад
I can hear you, and I am not omniscient nor Omnipresent. Mary hears those who ask for her intercessions. Ave Maris Stella... Solve vincla reis, profer lumen cæcis ,mala nostra pelle, bona cuncta posce
@dmustakasjr
@dmustakasjr 7 лет назад
Perhaps you could elaborate? is there a scrying pool she is looking into in Heaven? I assume she does not have RU-vid access to the internet from there. Does the Holy Spirit some how consistently and perfectly communicate all simultaneous prayer to her "ears" in Heaven? How does her mind contend with all of the individual requests from millions of people? If she is not like God and does not have attributes of God and is just a person, saved by her faith like all others, though admittedly blessed above all other women for carrying our savior, how is it possible for her to hear anyone? Is there any scriptural reference to help clarify this?
@jobbz9107
@jobbz9107 7 лет назад
Demetrios Mustakas Jr. Amen brother thank you for taking interest! You may wish to use whatever fantastical imagery you want - if the answer is yes, the answer is yes. You have assumed that Heaven is a place where we are all still have our corporal limitations. Like Homer Simpson on a reclining chair on clouds. The true nature of Mary is constantly being revealed to us - I would be privileged to visit the various Marian shrines around the world. You are asking for evidence. The evidence is the apparition, the sheer power of prayer, its documentation, and the miracles associated with it. It's like believing that snails don't produce slime but then witnessing a snail produce slime and still refusing to believe it. Not only do "henceforth all nations call her blessed" (Luke) but also she is the Queen of heaven, 12 Jewels for the 12 tribes of Israel (Revelation). If your idea of truth and reference is the vernacular aphorisms of scripture, out of the context of the time it was written, your religion will not progress, will not evangelise, will not inspire and ultimately not be true to the message of God. One needs Trutu through the lens of the Church to help with this. Yes, use reason - a gift from God. Yes, be critical, for the people in the church are liable to sin. I'm grateful for the question, but I'll remind you that Catholics work as a Body. We tend not to pretend that we can understand all of creation (including scripture and revelation) individually, so we refer people to priests, scholars, libraries, thesis, works, and ultimately a diet of prayer and fast. Please contact a local RCIA group to learn more about The Faith. I can help you if you are interested. If it's not for you, your money back! X
@dmustakasjr
@dmustakasjr 7 лет назад
Well the understanding I get from Holy Scripture is that God is capable of hearing our prayers because of his very nature, that of Omnipresence. The mind of God is capable of then hearing and understanding all prayer because of his Omniscience. And He is capable of answering our prayer in his Omnipotence. Mary is never said to possess any of these traits and that is understood in that she was not deified by God and is anything other than a human woman. If the nature of Heaven is to be discussed or debated I would say that anything outside of God's revelation would be speculation on our part, and lean understanding on the side of what has been revealed. Mary is a woman and a human and while she may be in either spirit or glorified form right now her nature (similar to other created beings such as angels) is limited to the characteristics of her being. While I put my information in a form that can be communicated to a person, in this case you, that mechanism is in keeping with meeting the characteristics of what you are capable of, that you can login and read my comments. If there is no delivery system like YT or this comment thread you would then need some other characteristics in order to receive my communication, or other mundane method (someone emailed you in a fwd). Or you would need to possess characteristics not normally attributed to humans. I think leaning on the silent argument and assumptions that things are different in heaven or in a spiritual form are speculative at best. What has been revealed is sufficient so that we might know, the manner and abilities of Mary (or our own), and the manner and abilities of God. The Catholic body is still responsible to the revelation of God, even if you believe he is continuing to reveal himself. If the case is made from the mercy seat that adds new characteristics to Mary then that is in fact where the debate or discussion can be engaged. This argument would include all of the saints as well. In their nature as human in being (spiritual or in body) they are limited in their nature in the created order. Those beings would need to be shown either the mechanism of delivery or a change in nature to account for the new ability to simultaneously hear multiple prayers from multiple locations on earth and over time and be capable in power to either intercede or answer them at all. I am sorry but Holy Scripture is clear about the powers of man, angels and the God-head in this respect, from OT to NT it is God who through his Son created all that exists and by his Holy Spirit moves and expresses His power. There is neither the capability nor the necessity that Mary or any other person or Saint to intercede. And I want to thank you as well for your time and your graciousness in responding to me.
@shawnglass108
@shawnglass108 5 лет назад
Praying to saints isn’t just a blow against God’s nature. It’s a blow against everything Jesus did that allows us a personal relationship with God. We are able to go directly to the Father in the name of the Son and so personal is that relationship allowed to be that we are actually allowed to refer to the Father as Abba. Which is like saying Daddy or Papa. That really blesses my heart. Why would anyone pray to a saint when they can directly to the Father? I simply do not comprehend.
@jackjones3657
@jackjones3657 5 лет назад
What fantastic responses. The Roman Catholic Church leadership, hierarchy and doctrine have proven, especially under Francis, they are indeed not in line with God's word. Many are apostates.
@johnraymond-pz9bo
@johnraymond-pz9bo 7 месяцев назад
Research sedevacantism
@lorrainedusseau5760
@lorrainedusseau5760 5 лет назад
I was Catholic, left it in 2002, for sure...I did apologetics and decided I didn't want to say repetitive prayers, pray to dead humans, or recrucify Jesus every Sunday.
@alvargesko3305
@alvargesko3305 4 года назад
Sorry to hear that Lorraine. Perhaps you did not know what you had? Did Jesus not say "repetitive prayer" in the Garden of Gethsemane prior to his arrest? And if you were really a learned Catholic you should have understood the Saints (those in heaven) are actually alive and well and not "dead". They simply passed from this life to the next and are not dead. You cannot "kill" a soul Lorraine. Also we do NOT recrucify Christ every Mass. The Catechism explains what we believe in the Mass. Remember that Jesus gave us the Mass, and the Eucharist, and commanded us to do both. He said "do this in memory of me" and "unless you eat the body and bllod of the Son of Man you have no life within you" Jesus said it, we don't debate it, we believe it. We do not completely understand exactly how it all works (the Trinity is surely a mystery, as is the Eucharist) but we believe it because Christ said it. All the John MacArthurs and RC Sprouls cannot undo what Christ started.
@alvargesko3305
@alvargesko3305 4 года назад
You are too kind "jumjum151" whatever that stands for. Why not take your vile hatred for the Church elsewhere. You are certainly not Christian. Jesus built ONE Church, he said so and it is Catholic. Read MT 16-19 and tell me what it says " And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Read John 6 and tell me what it says. You profess to know scripture yet argue what it means. Sad.
@alvargesko3305
@alvargesko3305 4 года назад
No "jum", I am not saying that the words of Jesus on the cross are an example of repetitive prayer. I am asking YOU what his words mean. Do you have any idea or not?
@colleendavid2899
@colleendavid2899 4 года назад
Hey "jum" you are so confused. Iwas talking about two different things in two different responses to you. Check ALL my past responses.I stated Jesus used a repetative prayer in the garden. Another example of repetative prayer is clearly seen in Rev. 4. They are chanting "Holy, holy, holy,..........day and night. So if it is okay in heaven it is okay here.Second, why would Jesus pray to his Mother when she was still on earth? Of course he prayed to his Father as we all do.Al
@alvargesko3305
@alvargesko3305 4 года назад
See Rev. 4 and see repetitive prayer
@edilbertogomez5453
@edilbertogomez5453 8 лет назад
Amen. I need help. I also grew up as a Catholic. Started little by little not believing in that religion as years went by. In January 2014. I stepped out and dedicated my life to Jesus Christ and becoming a Christian. Not by religion but a follower of Christ. Till this moment. I find my self looking for a church. I found a non denomination church. They baptized, read the gospel and preach about Jesus Christ. I also got baptized in another non denomination church that is a Christian church. I just want to serve and make sure I'm doing the right thing for God. Any answers will help.
@LuisMartinez-gt8my
@LuisMartinez-gt8my 8 лет назад
Amen brother. I also grew up in the Catholic Church but left it about three years ago when I got saved so my advice to you would be just continue to spiritually feed yourself with the word of God and keep searching for a biblical church. Good churches are hard to come across but if you go to one just examine that church and their teaching in the light of scripture and always pray about! God bless!
@salvadorimx
@salvadorimx 8 лет назад
I think there's no perfect local church, but it's important to stay in a church where the Word is always preached (both the good news and the bad news that lead to repentance) and Christ is exulted and loved... I think is hard, at first I didn't loved much the church where I was born again but as time went by I saw that in spite of the errors they are faithful to what the scriptures teach and now I love my church very much, not a perfect one but one where God is truly present. So I encourage you to pray to God to lead you to a faithful Church :)
@kovalanpachu
@kovalanpachu 8 лет назад
Don't rely on churches alone. Invest your own time in studying the Word Of God. Listen, watch and read the materials of great teachers who have invested their whole life in breaking it down for us. I will remember you in my prayers.
@edilbertogomez5453
@edilbertogomez5453 8 лет назад
kovalanpachu THANK YOU. THAT IS WHERE I FIND HE TRUTH ON HIS WORD.
@tonyamero
@tonyamero 7 лет назад
Tony Amero : i was raised a catholic, went through all the ceremonial stuff, but didn't have a clue who Jesus is. suffice to say, He called me, I answered that call and left the Catholic Church. I love Him immensely. I know after fifty some years of walking with Him, He is beyond explanation, His love is real and it is hard to fathom the blind acceptance and erroneous teaching that is so foolishly accepted. The Bible tells us to study and show ourselves workman, rightly dividing the word of truth,, not blindly believing false teaching. It saddens me to see what is happening and perverting the gospel.
@AVB2
@AVB2 6 лет назад
1 Cor 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." Unregenerated mankind, since he is controlled by the evil forces of darkness, simply cannot understand things of the holy scriptures.
@raymoore6204
@raymoore6204 5 лет назад
How did You'ze guys get so smart
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9e5_wZRjS9s.html
@AVB2
@AVB2 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Why would I want to be enslaved to a bunch of man made traditions that Jesus condemned and have absolutely no biblical source? Purgatory for instance. Totally demonic garbage dreamed up by the RCC to make the Catholics believe that the blood of Christ does NOT cleanse us from all unrighteousness but is instead weak and therefore the sinner needs to "help" himself by doing good works while still on earth and after death his family will light candles and pray for him and donate money to the RCC to "help" him out. What an insult to Jesus Christ and His all sufficient sacrifice on the cross.
@Romans8-9
@Romans8-9 3 года назад
@David Ortiz Can you point to scripture that says "becoming Catholic" is how you get saved?
@TheCaliforniacajun
@TheCaliforniacajun 5 лет назад
" Do this in remembrance of Me!!"
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 Месяц назад
Amen! Thank you for sharing biblical truth.
@davidwiita7054
@davidwiita7054 5 лет назад
Shared to my FB. Folks need to know. Amen
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 4 года назад
Hebrews 4:16 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Are you in Christ or not?
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 3 года назад
@David Ortiz How do you do what?
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 3 года назад
@David Ortiz By understanding that you as a saved Christian who has been baptized by the Holy Spirit of God now have the righteousness of Jesus Christ imputed unto you. You have now authority to approach the throne of God with prayers and supplications that God will hear when you never had it before.
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 3 года назад
@David Ortiz You couldn't get saved and you certainly cant hold onto it. It is the gift of God.
@lydiapetra1211
@lydiapetra1211 3 года назад
@David Ortiz You should study the New Testament... God's Word is very clear! You have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into lies, deception and fabrication by your Cult! Wake up.... you are on your way to hell!
@DavidJJames
@DavidJJames 5 лет назад
Elder brethren, please explain this anathematising of the Gospel at the Council of Trent. Is there a link to this or to a discussion of it?
@VampireEmoly
@VampireEmoly 3 года назад
Thank you Grandpa McArthur and Grandad Sproul.
@GodGotMe762
@GodGotMe762 6 лет назад
Rest in heaven R.C. I’m already missing you 😞😔
@terrykuntz8854
@terrykuntz8854 6 лет назад
What makes you think he's in heaven? you just can't preach, the lies about the Catholic Church, and assume he's in heaven. I don't know where he is, only God doe's I maybe shouldn't say this, but the best, and I think this may be a stretch, he could hope for was a stint in purgatory.
@ronl514
@ronl514 6 лет назад
Terry. R C is in heaven because he personally believed/trusted in an all sufficient Christ to take away his sin and to be clothed in His (Jesus) righteousness, so that he could be found righteous before God! Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved! Acts 16:31
@terrykuntz8854
@terrykuntz8854 6 лет назад
Ron L, Ya ron it sounds great, but you go ahead and believe that, and see just how far that gets you. There is so much more to it than that.
@ronl514
@ronl514 6 лет назад
Terry. I do not want to get into a long drawn out extended conversation with you but are you saying that the life, death & resurrection of Christ is not sufficient for your/our salvation?? Are you trusting in something else (perhaps your own good works) in addition to what Christ has done for us?? If you are, then it sounds like you are carrying a very heavy burden and have strayed from the simplicity of the gospel. I assume you are a Roman Catholic, in a nutshell, please explain to me the way of salvation, acc to you or your church?? I would like to know what you believe and why you believe it?? Thank you!
@terrykuntz8854
@terrykuntz8854 6 лет назад
Ron L Take a look at what Wilson Ewin, the author of a booklet called There is Therefore Now No Condemnation, says. He writes that "the person who places his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and his blood shed at Calvary is eternally secure. He can never lose his salvation. No personal breaking of God’s or man’s laws or commandments can nullify that status." "To deny the assurance of salvation would be to deny Christ’s perfect redemption," argues Ewin, and this is something he can say only because he confuses the redemption that Christ accomplished for us objectively with our individual appropriation of that redemption. The truth is that in one sense we are all redeemed by Christ’s death on the cross-Christians, Jews, Muslims, even animists in the darkest forests (1 Tim. 2:6, 4:10, 1 John 2:2)-but our individual appropriation of what Christ provided is contingent on our response. Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family. Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an "absolute" assurance of salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave: "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:26-29, 2 Pet. 2:20-21). "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5-8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9-10, 1 Cor. 3:12-15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2 , 2 Tim. 2:11-13)." Ron the second paragraph is the one that should be of most interest to you, and answer your question. God Bless Terry
@doug1863
@doug1863 4 года назад
Read this and then ask yourself, What is left for God? In thy hands I place my eternal salvation; to thee I entrust my soul. Enroll me among thy most faithful servants; take me under thy protection and it is enough for me: yes, for if thou protect me, I shall fear nothing; not my sins, for thou wilt obtain for me their pardon and remission; not the evil spirits, for thou art mightier than all the powers of hell; not even Jesus, my Judge, for He is appeased by a single prayer from thee. I fear only that through my own negligence I may forget to recommend myself to thee and so I shall be lost.
@user-hd8gp2wf1w
@user-hd8gp2wf1w 4 года назад
doug 1863 O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of every grace that GOD grants us in our misery; it is for this cause that HE HATH MADE THEE SO POWERFUL so rich, so kind, that thou mightest assist us in our miseries. Thou art the ADVOCATE of the most wretched and abandoned sinners, if they but come unto thee; come once more to my assistance, for I commend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation; to thee I entrust my soul. Enroll me among thy most faithful servants; take me under thy protection and it is enough for me: yes, for if thou protect me, I shall fear nothing; not my sins, for thou wilt obtain for me their pardon and remission; not the evil spirits, for thou art mightier than all the powers of hell; not even Jesus, my Judge, for He is appeased by a single prayer from thee. I fear only that through my own negligence I may forget to recommend myself to thee and so I shall be lost. My dear Lady, obtain for me the forgiveness of my sins, LOVE FOR JESUS, final perseverance and the grace to have recourse to thee at all times, O Mother of Perpetual Help. The prayer (request) to Mary is asking Mary to perpetual pray to her Son Jesus on ones behalf. Every teaching about Mary points to her Son Jesus Christ.
@doug1863
@doug1863 3 года назад
William 2015 this is unnecessary and idol worship. Clearly only Jesus is sinless and o lay Jesus can save us and no other goddess is needed
@cdmcintyre1854
@cdmcintyre1854 4 года назад
Scrolling through the comments forgot I commented a few months ago. I guess this discussion really catches my attention.
@shantor100
@shantor100 4 года назад
Even God's angels said do not worship me
@judyl.761
@judyl.761 4 года назад
People need to remember what Jesus said. “Those who are not against me are for me .
@raywinsor3948
@raywinsor3948 5 лет назад
I agree with Dr, Sproul.
@chefevilee9566
@chefevilee9566 5 лет назад
I miss Dr. RC Sproul so much
@rondadoolin7084
@rondadoolin7084 4 года назад
Amen praise the Lord thank you Jesus someone is FINALLY speaking the truth
@donaldduke2233
@donaldduke2233 5 лет назад
I remember as a youth noticing that a great many parishioners went to Mass and spent most of their time there praying the Rosary instead of celebrating a service to Jesus.
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
In the rosary the emphasis is on Mary. In the much more important Mass the emphasis is on Jesus and Jesus' Body and Blood---Mary is barely mentioned.
@bdvjack9214
@bdvjack9214 4 года назад
George Penton you do t what your talking about the Rosary is about the life of Jesus and Mary .
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
@@bdvjack9214 The rosary, if properly said, is indeed a series of meditations on the lives of both Jesus and Mary. But the emphasis---the number of sheer words in it---is on Mary. And there is certainly nothing wrong with that. I say at least one rosary every day. In the very much more important Mass the emphasis is on Jesus and His sacrifice and in His Body and Blood, and Mary is barely mentioned. Non-Catholics are very worried that if any devotion is given to Mary or other saints that Jesus might get lost somewhete in the shuffle. They see and hear Catholics saying the rosary, not understanding that one is supposed to meditate on the mysteries while reciting. They very likely have never attended a Catholic Mass and do not know how the Mass, the central form of Catholic worship, is all about Jesus. They do not understand how attending Mass and receiving Communion----or even attending Mass without receiving Communion as countless unseen angels do at every Mass---strongly and intimately unites the soul with its Holy Spouse Jesus. If you are devoted to Mary and the rosary more power to you. If you are I am sure you can attest that devotion to Mary in no way detracts from devotion to Jesus, and that in fact the opposite is true.
@bdvjack9214
@bdvjack9214 4 года назад
George Penton I am devoted to the Rosary and you are correct . Mary prayed with Bernadette in Lourdes for bad Catholics , to me the biggest problem with Catholics is many do not know the faith and as a result leave and lose salvation which at Fatima souls are falling into hell like snowflakes. Mary always points to her son and will lead you too Jesus every time and you will know Jesus like never before .
@homewardbound8327
@homewardbound8327 4 года назад
DONALD DUKE During the "old" Latin mass, many did not understand what was going on because they didn't understand Latin. At certain points bells were rung; that was the signal to pay attention to what was going on in the front of the church (altar). The lack of understanding of the Latin (or perhaps illiteracy) is why some people who were attending said the rosary, or went through the sequence of beads while gazing at a stained-glass Bible scene window and mediating on the life of Christ. They couldn't follow what was going on. The Latin mass is still said; but most who attend it are people who have studied Latin (It is a good language to understand if you are going into the medical or pharmacology fields). Some people like it because the only people chanting are the priest and the choir …. It is a very peaceful, quiet style of worship. *The vast majority of modern Catholics attend modern services* *(i.e. "The mass" -- "To gather together") in their own language* *AND they participate in the readings and hymns of the mass* Because they can understand the language. In the modern mass (Novus Ordo mass) the priest faces the congregation rather than the front altar when he is saying the mass. However, some Eastern (Byzantine) Rite Catholics attend mass that is said in Greek and the customs are those of the Eastern/ Russian Orthodox churches. It like attending an Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy (Service/Mass). There are also local Mozarabic and "Ambrosian"/"Milan" (originated in northern Italy) rite masses where the ethnic groups who speak the languages gather. The Eastern Rite Catholic churches were once under the control of Constantinople (now called Istanbul) before the Muslims took it over in 1453 CE/AD. Rome became the administrative head of these churches; but the customs stayed the same as when the churches were under the administration of the Patriarch of Constantinople. *Most Orthodox and most Catholics like their worship* *traditions and their families ethnic-lined parishes*
@BirdogEd
@BirdogEd 4 года назад
As the Reformers said according to Scripture (Sola Scriptura) “ By Grace ALONE, through Faith ALONE, in Christ ALONE, to the Glory of God ALONE! “Eph. 2:8-9, Gal. 2:16 Respectfully yours
@dinaandrade522
@dinaandrade522 4 года назад
Where in the Bible is the verse about sola scriptura?
@BirdogEd
@BirdogEd 4 года назад
Dina Andrade “Sola Scriptura “ in Latin means “ by the authority of Scripture Alone”. In other words; no one or title is above the authority of Scripture. No Pope, king, President, dictator, etc... Respectfully yours in Christ 😎
@seanledoux6201
@seanledoux6201 3 года назад
So don't ask a friend or family member to pray for you? After all, "there is only one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." The Catholi. Church teaches us to pray directly to God. It also teaches to ask Mary and the saints to pray for us just as we would ask any brother or sister in Christ to pray for us
@janinevanreenen9470
@janinevanreenen9470 8 дней назад
They are dead. They are not omniscient. God is. So, even if you could Pray to the dead how do they hear you all? Do you get a set time?
@jamessgian7691
@jamessgian7691 5 лет назад
As to Sproul’s remarks concerning the sacrifice of the Mass, and his offense regarding it, please read Revelation Chapter Five when the Lamb on the altar has been slain. This occurs in heaven. In eternity. Once for all is an eternal sacrifice. When Christ said “do this in memory of me” at the last supper, the word for in memory is a calling to re (again) member (flesh out in reality) the giving of his body and blood. Read the Last Supper and read all of John chapter 6. You will find Sproul’s offense is presented in that chapter. Not in Christ, but in those who refuse to accept the statement from the Lamb that they must eat his body and drink his blood. Come to the Supper of the Lamb. It is the same eternal sacrifice at every Mass. The Mass is what is going on in the book of Revelation. But before heaven, you can come to the table. Christ himself, in his body and blood, are there for you. Join your brothers and sisters at the table. Do not turn away like those in Chapter six of John. Be like Peter, confessing, “Where else shall we go. You have the words of eternal life.” Christ’s words of life are the last I will say on this: “I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life in you.”
@renaeholmes4348
@renaeholmes4348 2 года назад
Thank you, YESHUA , JESUS
@jasonstockman3532
@jasonstockman3532 5 лет назад
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV) 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
The intercession of the saints is still valid and biblical. The Saints are the servants of Jesus. The reformers are not.
@Rixster53
@Rixster53 4 года назад
The Mysterious Cynthia X, To say I am not a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ because I’m not Catholic is an insult... prison ministry is a real blessing, giving to less fortunate a blessing, giving to missionaries a blessing, thank God your opinion means nothing, God blesses me richly every day... and I am looking forward to meeting my glorious Savior without the assistance of the hellish church in Rome...
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
@@Rixster53 1. All protestants who follow Luther's doctrines are serving LUTHER. 2. If you were not attacking and making false accusations, I would not be RESPONDING. YOU are the slanderer (a serious sin) and I am RESPONDING by showing you that you are making false accusations while U R following LUTHER JESUS founded a CHURCH. LUTHER, who never knew Jesus came along 15 centuries later and told people to IGNORE the church and follow "SCRIPTURE ALONE" You are obeying LUTHER and not JESUS
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
@@Rixster53 BTW, recieving earthly rewards does not mean that God is blessing you. Just look at Joel Osteen
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 3 года назад
➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE: ... Including proof that saints are not among the dead The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transformation of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.
@debjesic
@debjesic 5 лет назад
Well said John!!
@lydiapetra1211
@lydiapetra1211 3 года назад
Amen
@3leon306
@3leon306 5 лет назад
during the reformation, Calvin ruled Geneva theologically and politically, almost as if he were a bishop or Pope of his own new version of Christianity. I understand that he subscribed to sola scriptura, but he was the only person in Geneva who was permitted to actually study the bible and come to theological conclusions ...he was NOT open to the idea of a gospel accessible to the masses. The reason I bring this up is that it seems to indicate that Calvin regarded himself as an alternate, authoritative Magisterium of the church. this is well known
@3leon306
@3leon306 3 года назад
www.stephenhicks.org/2010/11/27/john-calvins-geneva/ Anyone with a smattering of reformation history knows of Calvin’s one-man magisterium and that he wanted his own papacy
@paulforjesus2788
@paulforjesus2788 6 лет назад
Thank you for this video. -Ex Catholic
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 5 лет назад
you've been duped because protestantism does not come from Jesus and they hide & Reject all scriptures about Mary Saints, confession, penance, good works, the Eucharist, images that were used in the temples , ETC ETC.
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 5 лет назад
@@cynthiax56 Oh yeah? Scriptures like what exactly? You can't just make a claim, not back it up, and expect people to believe that.
@theextreme7134
@theextreme7134 5 лет назад
@@cynthiax56 Jesus Bride, or true church, is all the true believers in the world who love him and who reflect his character to the world. They are rare, and can be found sprinkled throughout every denomination. I hope you wake up soon.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 5 лет назад
John The True bride & True believers existed 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt, which was started by Martin Luther.
@theextreme7134
@theextreme7134 5 лет назад
@@cynthiax56 And most of the true bride were executed by the Catholic church during the Dark Ages. You don't seem to grasp the spiritual nature of the true church or the Gospel??
@MrBilioner
@MrBilioner 4 года назад
In the name of our Father,His Son and the Holy Spirit not Mary.
@epb3233
@epb3233 4 года назад
Jonathan H. In Jesus name, Amen!
@joecastillo8798
@joecastillo8798 4 года назад
Jonathan, Our sign of the cross goes like this: In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Regarding Mary, the Mother of God, let's begin from the beginning. Shall we? After the Annunciation. Mary Visits Elizabeth Luke 1, 40-45 40. and she entered the house of Zechari′ah and greeted Elizabeth. 41. And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and ELIZABETH WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT 42. and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43. And why is this granted me, that THE MOTHER OF MY LORD should come to me? 44. For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. 45. And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.” Mother of the LORD means Mother of GOD. RIGHT? Isn’t JESUS our LORD and GOD? LET'S SEE HOW THE OLD TESTAMENT SAYS, REGARDING A TYPE OF JESUS, THE ARK OF THE COVENANT: First, when Elizabeth “exclaimed with a loud cry… why is this granted me, that the MOTHER of my LORD should come to me” (Luke 1:42-43), Mary was revealed to be the New Testament ARK of the LORD. Elizabeth’s words make this clear as she repeats a text from II Samuel 6:9 wherein David exclaims concerning the Old Covenant “ark of the Lord:” And David was afraid of the LORD that day; and he said, "How can the ark of the LORD come to me?" If this one parallel leaves you unconvinced, there are more that may tip the scale for you. St. John the Baptist “leaped for joy” at the salutation of Mary (Luke 1:44), just as King David “danced before the Lord” in the ark of the Lord in II Samuel 6:14. Moreover, Mary “remained with [Elizabeth] for THREE MONTHS (Luke 1:56),” just as: “the ark of the Lord remained in the house of Obededom the Gittite for THREE MONTHS ” II Sam. 6:11. However, having brought up the greatest reason for her importance: Her Motherhood of God, no catholic will ever equate the created Blessed Mother, with the creator. However, I must point out that from Christ’s conception until his death, Mary was united to her Son in HIS work of salvation. From the Cross, Jesus entrusted his beloved disciple to Mary, telling him to see her as his own mother (Jn 19:27). Jesus Christ our Redeemer is dying on the Cross and tells "the disciple" to behold HIS Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary. It seems that Jesus is referring to John, but the actual words are "THE DISCIPLE." And so, in that moment, Mary becomes MOTHER OF ALL DISCIPLES OF JESUS, including those in our own time who follow Jesus. The most straight forward theological answer is simply this: Mary is our mother because she is the Mother of Jesus and we, by baptism are incorporated into Jesus. Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. (1 Cor 12:27) . Jesus is the head of the body, the Church. (Col 1:18) But if Mary gave birth to the head of the Body of Christ she also gave birth to the rest of the Body of Christ, His Church which is us. When the Apostles and disciples gathered to pray after the Ascension of Jesus, Mary was with them praying for the coming of the Holy Spirit. Mary continues to pray before God for the Church and all humanity. Like Mary, the Church has a maternal role, giving birth to people in Christ. The Church can never cease to look at Mary, who gave birth to Jesus Christ. The Church contemplates Mary’s motherhood in order to fulfill her own calling to be mother of the members of Christ’s Mystical Body, the Church. . In our culture, there can be a discomfort with praying for Mary’s intercession on our behalf. This seems to be a mediating role that crosses a line set out in the First Letter to Timothy: “For there is one God. There is also one mediator between God and the human race, Christ Jesus, himself human who gave himself as a ransom for all” (1 Tm 2:5). So Jesus Christ is the one and only mediator. Jesus alone is the Savior. But this does not deny the possibility that Christ would permit others to share in his mediating role. Here on earth we routinely ask others for prayers. Instinctively, we turn to holy people for their prayers because they seem nearer to God. Why would we stop asking saints for their prayers after they die? If we believe they are in heaven, would not their prayers be even more effective? From the earliest times, Christians have sought Mary’s prayers and help. There has been the basic sense on the part of the Church that Mary continues in heaven to be concerned for the growth of all members of the Church into holiness and an intimate relationship with her Son. God bless.
@MrBilioner
@MrBilioner 4 года назад
@@joecastillo8798 First Joe, lets look at 2 Chronicles 7:14=If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. We can see that God obviously wants us to pray to Him and only to Him through Jesus Christ who died for us and is our mediator (1 Tm 2:5) like you and the bible said. If you pray to marry you then break the first 3 commandments which are dont have other Gods because you pray to other god,marry is not a god,second have no other gods and 3rd dont make idols,marry again. Many thorough out old testament and new one we can see they had the holy spirit but it doesnt mean we should pray to them. Abraham,isak,jacob,david...they all had the holy spirit. In Num. 11:17-25 we can see that mosses and the seventy elders had the holy spirit does that mean we should pray to them? Absolutely not. Jesus Christ is our Lord and mother of the Lord does not mean mother of God,it does not say that. I see you cant figure out the holy trinity. God is one,but God is Jesus Christ and God is the holy spirit. All three have a different function and are different personalities but its the same God. Its hard to understand but with the help of God you can to.To see that Jesus Christ is God for example in John 8:58 ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am! Or John 10:30 I and the Father are one. Where in the bible says in the exact words pray to marry and she will transfer our prayers or just pray to her? Nowhere. True Jesus is in the old testament a bunch of times thats right but marry just did birth to the Son of God,she is still a sinner. Please go and read matthew 12:46-50 and figure it out. Is marry still qualified as a "disciple"? Even when we forget to pray, we can take comfort in knowing that Jesus Christ is in Heaven, interceding for us. Hebrews 7:25 says, “He is able, once and forever, to save those who come to God through him. He lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf”.And Romans 8:34 says, “It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us”. Not marry. Marry was there when they were praying for the holy spirit but there is no passage saying "Mary continues to pray before God for the Church and all humanity". No,marry dont give birth to the church but only God can give and only God can take, so can He grow the church and not marry. “For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.” Exodus 34:14. Thats why its not good to pray to other saints that are here on earth or in heaven only to Jesus Christ,to God himself. We can only ask them on this earth while they are still alive to pray for us,or with us in the name of Jesus Christ nothing more nothing less. Who has all the power,might and glory? Not paul,not the john,or the rest of the disciples and not even marry they are still humans but only God has all the power,and might and will and force to do it because He is God. Now as you see and got the knowledge of the real truth and see that God is angry at the people and dont want them to pray to marry or any other saints and have no idols, His grace and forgiveness is unlimited and He is ready to forgive your sins. Repent of the false religion and turn to Him and His son only,stop the chatolic circus and nonsense. I notices that in the chatolic churches they barely speak of hell and sin but only love and grace of God but not His another attribute and that is Just God. He cant be a loving God if He wont serve His justice then He would be a liar and a corrupt Judge and He is not that. And why does the chatolic church baptise babies without sin? Babies go to heaven no matter what before the first sin,the knowledge the free will of sinning. Jesus did not die for babies without sin but for us sinners. God bless you to and I hope and pray that you will see and get the truth. God bless you to.
@lervin78
@lervin78 4 года назад
Joe Castillo, thank you for this. Just as by loving my mother, I give honor to my father, loving Mary helps me to better love God. Thanks be to God for His inconceivable love!
@lolasobande8663
@lolasobande8663 4 года назад
@@lervin78 So by your logic, since your mother is your father's wife, Mary is God's wife?
@jesuslovesme143
@jesuslovesme143 5 лет назад
Thank you.
@johnmackinnon7321
@johnmackinnon7321 6 лет назад
That's why we're to test ALL things!!!!
@AmericanPatriot-1776
@AmericanPatriot-1776 4 года назад
The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are One. Mary intercedes for us. When you start to experience miracles every day of your life, then you'll understand. I haven't watched the video yet, just had to add my 2 cents.
@AmericanPatriot-1776
@AmericanPatriot-1776 4 года назад
@@jumjum151 Really! There is a lot you don't know. A lot of what we know is not in the bible, because God speaks to all of us with important messages TODAY. The bible is a guide, it's not everything. Mary is my best friend and She has interceded for me in a million ways, ways you will never understand. I think you have a lot of educating to do. Read up on Our Lady of Fatima 1917 find out what She told the three peasant children. There are 1000's of instances where She revealed Herself to us humans to tell us how to live our lives. When Jesus was dying on the cross He told the world that His Mother was now our Mother. I bet you didn't know that either. Padre Pio was a great source of guidance, I could go on and on. Open your mind, I think there is A LOT you don't understand and you end up standing in judgement over the rest of us.
@AmericanPatriot-1776
@AmericanPatriot-1776 4 года назад
@@jumjum151 I don't know what bible you are referring to, but there is only one bible that is the true one. Most likely you're looking at a re-write called King James. Really? Seriously. I think that those who don't believe in the existence of Mary you will perish when the day of reckoning arrives. Devotion to Mary is key because Jesus said so. Mary has appeared to so many of us mortal man to get Jesus' message to us and no one listened, not even the marxist/communist anti-pope Francis. Please do your research. I know what I know because of intense theological study. And you, well I just don't know. You sound resentful and pissed that there is someone as devoted to us as Mary out there waiting for us to talk to Her. For those who really want to be restored, it has to start somewhere. You will never change my mind and I will never help you learn. Just put this at the back of your mind jumjum, you will need this someday, I guarantee it.
@wesleysimelane3423
@wesleysimelane3423 2 года назад
@@AmericanPatriot-1776 Mary is dead. Jesus has been interceding for you and you thank Him by acknowledging His human mother and not Him. Mary can't hear you. She is in her grave.
@curtismoore2730
@curtismoore2730 3 года назад
GOD AND GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE IS TO BE PRAISED AND GLORIFY AND WORSHIPED, AND "NO" OTHER ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER,,AMEN HALLELUJAH GLORY TO GOD ALMIGHTY!!!!!
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 5 лет назад
Simeon said to Mary “A sword shall pierce your soul too.” Lk 2:35
@TheKevinmalta
@TheKevinmalta 5 лет назад
Amen bro.
@LynLyn-wl9yu
@LynLyn-wl9yu 5 лет назад
@@TheKevinmalta So, if a sword shall pierce her heart, what does that imply?
@LynLyn-wl9yu
@LynLyn-wl9yu 5 лет назад
Him Bike So, if a sword shall pierce Mary's heart, what does that imply?
@LynLyn-wl9yu
@LynLyn-wl9yu 5 лет назад
@Him Bike So, if a sword shall pierce Mary's heart, what does that imply?
@TheKevinmalta
@TheKevinmalta 5 лет назад
@@LynLyn-wl9yu it carries on to say.... "so that the thoughts of many shall be Revealed".... God knew that many doubters will emerge. What's hard to understand? If Protestant's have no trouble understanding Mary's Virgin Birth, I can't understand why it is so hard for them to believe that She Remained a Virgin..... !!! Or do we LIMIT GOD!!! where we want??
@danieltrujillo5448
@danieltrujillo5448 6 лет назад
And our prayers and help come through him Jesus Christ God bless
@sponsler
@sponsler 8 лет назад
"When you pray, pray like this... Our Heavenly Father... (our Father in Heaven")...... can't be much more clear than that. and "Malachi 1:6 "'A son honors his father, and a servant his master. Then if I am a father, where is My honor? And if I am a master, where is My respect?' says the LORD of hosts to you, O priests who despise My name. But you say, 'How have we despised Your name?'"
@alexchristopher221
@alexchristopher221 7 лет назад
Taking Scripture out of context is the Protestant malaise.
@SiRasputin
@SiRasputin 6 лет назад
And the our Father is prayed at every liturgy. How often do Protestants pray it?
@sameeralraees3260
@sameeralraees3260 6 лет назад
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@terrykuntz8854
@terrykuntz8854 6 лет назад
I thought you fundamentalists, say "call no man father" and of course you can only pray the our father once because if you pray two in a row that is vain repetition. Come on people think, there is only one truth and that comes from the Church Jesus Christ himself started The One Holy Catholic And Apostolic Church. Come Home!!!!!!!
@atroutflycrazy8057
@atroutflycrazy8057 5 лет назад
Well said R C sproul .we all have errors mixed with our faith but when any error involves practices which arent to be found in scripture or undermines the authority and glory to be given unto christ only then it is v dangerous ground indeed.
@garykcarpenter
@garykcarpenter 2 года назад
Christ said he would send us a comforter, the holy spirit, not his mother. Blessed be the father, son and holy spirit!!!
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 10 лет назад
Luke 8:19 - Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press. And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. Luke 8:21 - And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it. ----------- John 2:5 - His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever [Jesus] he saith unto you, do it. ----------- Luke 11:27 - And it came to pass, as [Jesus] he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. Luke 11:28 - But [Jesus] he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But [Jesus] he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
@mariamarymiriam293
@mariamarymiriam293 10 лет назад
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; what is a mediator? I.one who intervenes between two, either in order to make or restore peace and friendship, or form a compact, or for ratifying a covenant II.a medium of communication, arbitrator So what´s up with the praying to Mary? what for?
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 10 лет назад
María Mary Miriam Good question...
@timseneca3202
@timseneca3202 10 лет назад
María Mary Miriam the mediator is one who is in the middle or between you and god ,which is jesus ,for you to go to heaven or get in ..you would have to go through jesus ,god says this is my son for those who believe and trust in my son shall have ever lasting life ,jesus is your mediator
@MrChristianBeliever
@MrChristianBeliever 10 лет назад
Tim Seneca Tim, I am quite certain you do not know what Catholics believe with regard to mediatrix. Every Catholic knows that Jesus is our mediator between God the Father and man. Why do you think otherwise?
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh
@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh 10 лет назад
MrChristianBeliever Then why do the catholics pray to Mary? Do not lie and say they do not do this. people look up the rosary and see they do pray to mary as mediatrix.
@42lookc
@42lookc 4 года назад
What thorough, articulate, inarguable explanations of the idolatry of the catholic church. I don't know how anyone can honestly keep going to that utterly _false_ church and doctrine after hearing this discussion.
@monizdm
@monizdm 4 года назад
Oh go screw yourself and get a life.
@johnsheedy461
@johnsheedy461 4 года назад
42LOOKC---- Check with the hundreds of Protestant ministers that are becoming Catholic after finding out that your endless lies and baloney are just that. Jesus said "but all nations shall hate you because you are MY followers". All day, every day, I read the hatred posted here ! It warms my heart as so many "Christians" curse HIS 2000 year old church and prove HIS WORDS !
@Rixster53
@Rixster53 4 года назад
John Sheedy Hundreds of Protestant ministers converting to Catholicism? What are you smoking John? Maybe 2 or 3 that were never born again-saved by the precious blood of the Lord Jesus Christ in the first place... And I’m sure you know that there was and is a group of people that were NEVER connected to the hellish church in Rome, we are not Protestants we are bible believing Baptists! Look it up many were murdered and burned at the stake during the dark ages, you know, the Inquisition! Groups called the Waldenses and Albigenses, that is the heritage of people that gave their lives for believing the Bible instead of holy mother church as you guys call it!
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 4 года назад
@@Rixster53 Amen.
@eddieboggs8306
@eddieboggs8306 4 года назад
@@monizdm You're not a Christian are you? Sweet and bitter water cannot flow from the same place.
@kathleengatica123
@kathleengatica123 19 дней назад
We all mediate for each other when we pray for each other. And that is all that Mary is doing.
@DonnieHall-we9ry
@DonnieHall-we9ry 11 месяцев назад
God bless you Men! ✝️✡️🇺🇸❤️
@marktillotson5426
@marktillotson5426 7 лет назад
fried rice..do you even READ THE WRITTEN WORDS OF CHRIST and the Apostles?? Christ said I AM the way the truth and the life NO ONE comes to the father EXCEPT THROUGH ME.THAT IS GOD TALKING not a man.
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
Christ isn’t a man ?
@anabellesabangan7565
@anabellesabangan7565 5 лет назад
@@christopherton A God man. This has a deeper meaning, sir.
@christopherton
@christopherton 5 лет назад
Anabelle Sabangan So feel free to explain this deeper meaning you apparently know better than I
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 4 года назад
Mark I have stunning news for you that may shock you because you are so proud in your "Knowledge" of the bible: (Albeit skewed knowledge and the fact that the protestant version of the bible is neither complete nor accurate) ......It is not your knowledge of the bible, or how many scriptures you can quote that will get you into heaven. Nope. It's how you lived your life and whether you have loved your neighbour as Jesus tells us we should do. When we die, we are not given a quiz on how well we know the bible. We are judged by our DEEDS. Check it out: WORKS, PENANCE, & PURGATORY (All copied from the protestant version of the Bible) ➨WORKS: REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER. PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV) Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9 and they STOP before they get to number 10: 8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10): 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away. ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do Acts 26:20 RSV but declared first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God and perform deeds worthy of their repentance. Acts 2:38-40: Do Penance and be baptized everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. For this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN, and to all who are far off who the Lord our God shall call. ➨PURGATORY:. Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus in 2 Timothy 1: 16-18. 1 Peter 4:6 The gospel was preached to the dead. (It would do no good to preach to those in heaven or in hell) PURGATORY EXISTS. 1 Peter 3:19 , Peter says that after the crucifixion and death of Jesus, that Jesus "went to speak to the spirits in prison", which means that there is a place people go to after they die that is a prison and not heaven nor hell. Matthew 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) also 1 Cor 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible: (2 Mace 12:46). “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they might be loosed from their sins” 1 Peter 1:17
@johnotto4931
@johnotto4931 4 года назад
The Mysterious Cynthia X your idea of purgatory is false, when Christ descended to preach to the dead it is because they were at a place called “Abraham’s bosom”, they were only COVERED by the blood of bulls and lambs but when Jesus finished the work at the cross He preached His shed blood for the REMISSION of sins (washed away) because they could not enter paradise unless their sins were removed not covered. Then as the scripture stated Hell was enlarged. There is NO purgatory
@dominic5520
@dominic5520 5 лет назад
“Come out from among them,my people”
@lindabooker3512
@lindabooker3512 Год назад
I only remember one time when Jesus softened up to His mother which was the wedding at Cana. But when he was finally found in the temple after being sought by Joseph and Mary when He was 12, His response was, I’m sure disheartening to Mary. The other time was when He said “Who is my mother?” We all know when that was. I sure John was taken aback.
@mavirek
@mavirek 11 месяцев назад
Do you recall the first part of Luke? How do you explain that?
@billyburd789
@billyburd789 7 лет назад
These men are 100% right.
@SnortyHogbottomx
@SnortyHogbottomx 7 лет назад
no they are not. NOWHERE does the Bible tell us that we cannot pray to (speak to) Mary or the saints. in fact Protestantism makes up things all the time that are not in the bible
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 7 лет назад
Spoiled Brat; Jesus said to ask, seek and knock in His name. What part of that don't catholics understand, or maybe you all think it's not in the bible. Read the bible, it does not give authority to anyone to pray to Mary in her name.
@MrRee-bi2xr
@MrRee-bi2xr 6 лет назад
Spoiled Brat....Roman Catholics have a whole religion that denies the Bible and it's authority! Your statement is so ironic.... not to mention moronic! Get a real Bible and read it before you comment next time.
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 6 лет назад
The Man: The catholic church claims that they wrote the NT, but this same church denies scripture alone and it denies the authority of the bible. Strange attitude. So why does this church claim ownership of the bible? This church has basically stolen the apostles thunder, but it was the apostles who wrote the NT, but the catholic church wants all the credit and attention.
@cynthiax56
@cynthiax56 6 лет назад
The man complete and utter rubbish. you simply IGNORE a multitude of scriptures either DELIBERATLY or out of ignorance: CATHOLIC DOCTRINE in the protestant Bible (copied by your truly ...a former protestant) All these scriptures contradict protestantism & back Catholic doctrines:... ➨BAPTISM: Baptism is neccessary for salvation: Mark 16:16 He who believes & is BAPTIZED shall be saved. but he that does not believe shall be condemmed. Rom 5:18-19 ALL have inherited Adams sin and the condemnation it brings. ➨INFANT BAPTISM: The apostles baptized entire families (this would include children) Acts 16:15 & 33 also 1 Cor 1:16. 1 Peter 3:20,21,8 souls were saved by WATER. 21 = the like figure whereunto even Baptist doth also now SAVE us. Acts 2:38-39 38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you, AND YOUR CHILDREN and for all who are far off-for all whom the Lord our God will call ➨BELIEVERS DO NOT ESCAPE JUDGEMENT: 2 Cor 5:10--ALL will appear before the judgement seat ➨BORN AGAIN: How are we born again?:... John 3:3-7 Jesus said, "Unless a man is born of water (baptism) & the spirit, he will not see the kingdom of God" ➨CALL NO MAN FATHER is not meant as a literal command because: Paul tells us he is our Father in faith: 1 Corinthians 4:15 You may have ten thousand teachers in Christ, but you don’t have many fathers. Through the Good News I became your father in Christ Jesus. Jesus talks about Father Abraham: John 8:56 Your father Abraham was overjoyed that he would see my day. He saw it and was happy ➨CONFESSION: Why confess to a Priest? Jesus gives power to the Priests to forgive sins: John 20:23 He breathed on them & said, "recieve the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven, Whose sins you retain are retained" James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. ➨FAITH ALONE (sola fide) is incorrect: REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. James 2:18 Faith without works is dead Matt 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. James 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Philippians 2:12-13 Philippians 1 Philippians 3 Philippians 2:12-13...12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. In Matt 25, JESUS tells us to feed the poor, clothe the naked and do good for others. All this falls under the catagory of doing good works. Luke 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) ➨IMAGES: Not all images are forbidden, nor are all images idols:- EXODUS 25:18-22-God commands images of Angels to be made NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: Job 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. INTERCESSIONof MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, The Wedding party asked MARY to help them and She went to JESUS on their behalf. ➨MARY: Luke 1:24-48: ● She is chosen by God, ● She is blessed among women, ● She is full of grace (God's purity by which he saves us) ● and All generations will call her blessed. ● Her intercession is described in the story of the wedding at Cana, John 2:1. the people of the wedding party went to MARY AND SHE WENT TO Jesus on their behalf. He then turned the water to wine because she asked him to. ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do ➨PURGATORY:. Matthew 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) also 1 Cor 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible ➨SAINTS are not among the dead, They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. Matthew 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. Luke 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. Rev 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) Heb 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ➨ intercession of the saints: REV 5 v 8...And when he had opened the book, the four living creatureS and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the lamb, having every one of them harps and golden bowls full of incense and the prayerssaints of the saints ➨SCRIPTURE ALONE: (SOLASCRIPTURA) is incorrect:... ● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did many other things that are not recorded in writing ● 1 Tim 3:15- The pillar & foundation of truth is the CHURCH ● 2 Thess 2:15 Paul tells us to hold fast to the traditions we have been taught either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ●..The Church predates the Bible by 4 centuries. The protestant doctrine of scripture ALONE was invented by Luther for the purpose of disobeying the Church. ➨TRADITIONS: Traditions of the Church are NOT "Traditions of men:.. 2 Thess 2:15 Paul tells us to hold fast to the traditions we have been taught either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ➡THE SIN OF PRESUMPTION:.. 1 Cor 10:12..Let he who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall .. Matthew 21:31-..Take heed lest the harlots and publicans go into the kingdom ahead of you ➨VAIN REPETITION: Repeating a prayer is not "VAIN REPETITION": "Vain repetition" simply means INSINCERE WORDS. Rev 4:8 The living creatures that are before the throne of God in heaven REPEAT day and night: "Holy Holy HOly is the Lord of Hosts ➨WORD OF MOUTH is just as valuable as scripture: ● 2 Thess 2:15 Paul tells us to hold fast to the traditions we have been taught either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ● "After much debate had taken place, PETER got up and said to them, “My brothers, you are well aware that from early days God made his choice among you THAT THROUGH MY MOUTH THE GENTILES WOULD HEAR THE WORD OF THE GOSEPL AND BELIEVE." cf. Acts 15: 7 ➨THE TRUE PRESENCE OF JESUS in the Eucharist:- JOHN 6:52-56-- Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man & drink his blood you do not have life in you. For my flesh is food indeed & my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh & drinks my blood has Eternal Life & I will raise him up on the last day. Luke 22:19-20 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.[a] ➨ONE TRUE CHURCH ● MATT 16:13-19--Jesus gives keys of the Kingdom to Peter, and builds his church upon Peter. PETER THE FIRST POPE HOLDS THE KEYS ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15--The pillar & foundation of truth is the CHURCH ● Eph 2:19-21 calls out a visible unified church built on Apostles with Christ as the head, but people reject that cornerstone as WordMinistry does here.
@mikeh4198
@mikeh4198 10 лет назад
Thorough and they don't pull punches. Many good intentioned Christians in the RC Church have no idea how faulted the teachings of that church truly are (I was brought up catholic and went to catholic school). The church claims the authority of the Bible but also adds their own traditions, too. A big problem is the church traditions often cloud what scripture teaches. Penance, Purgatory, Sacred Heart of Jesus, Immaculate Heart Of Mary, the Rosary, venial and mortal sins, the infallibility of the Pope, veneration of the saints, etc.. None of these are scriptural and in fact contradict scripture. Where's the Righteousness of God freely given by His grace and grace alone to His children for all eternity? The blessed assurance of the 100% free gift of salvation that can never be lost - ever. It's a hard to see let alone admit that the church you grew up in, that your family has followed for generations, etc., is sincerely wrong. There is an answer and it will bring peace.
@MrChristianBeliever
@MrChristianBeliever 10 лет назад
YOU: Penance, Purgatory, Sacred Heart of Jesus, Immaculate Heart Of Mary, the Rosary, venial and mortal sins, the infallibility of the Pope, veneration of the saints, etc.. None of these are scriptural and in fact contradict scripture. RE: Mike I must disagree with you. Purgatory, Venial Sins and Mortal Sins are most certainly in scripture. You claim that you were raised Catholic yet you are not aware of these? I find that very hard to believe. Then again, the CC has not done a very good job at teaching Catholics what is meant by these things. YOU: Where's the Righteousness of God freely given by His grace and grace alone to His children for all eternity? RE: What do you mean? Are you trying to suggest that the CC teaches God is not righteous? That is what Purgatory is all about. Are you suggesting the CC does not teach that God's Grace is a free gift? You really do not know what the CC teaches do you? YOU: The blessed assurance of the 100% free gift of salvation that can never be lost - ever. RE: You are correct, the gift will never be less than 100% free. If you are suggesting that once we accept the gift, we can never give it back, then you are speculating and dangerously at that. Once you accept the free gift, you are still free to reject the gift until the moment of your death. Scripture talks about this; I am surprised you are not aware of it.
@chrisluvscats
@chrisluvscats 6 лет назад
Micheal you know not what you defend. Why is your pope exalted above other men? You are of the nicolations mentioned in Revelation 2. Truly sorry for your spiritual blindness. Repent of idolatry and turn away from that church
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 5 лет назад
Micheal: Scripture talks only about Jesus’ sufferings death and resurrection for the sins of the world. That is what Jesus is ALL about. In your response you never even said anything about Jesus’ saving blood sacrifice and resurrection. Purgatory does not exist !!!
@xxxmmm3812
@xxxmmm3812 5 лет назад
@@MrChristianBeliever no, none of it is truly in the scriptures, you are as deluded as it gets. I will pray for you, to Jesus , not to mary or any other dead person
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 5 лет назад
Jane Erstić: Over the years of reading the responses from staunch Catholics, I keep seeing the same excuse that they cling to - if it isn’t in the Bible then it is ok to believe in it. Examples: 1 - They claim that since the Bible doesn’t “specifically say” that we cannot pray to Mary then it must be perfectly safe to pray to her without taking responsibility for it. 2 - The last chp of John says that Jesus had said and done so many things that all the books in the world cannot contain everything. Catholic Church uses that passage to go hog wild in practicing whatever they wish thinking they will not be held responsible, but when you ask them what else did Jesus say and do, they just turn their noses in the air and walk off. Etc. Hypocrites !! This church really hasn’t read the Bible, they don’t take Jesus seriously. 3 - One more thing, in John chp 8, Jesus said if you do not believe who I say I am you will die in your sins. Jesus has said thru out the Bible that He is the way, the truth, the life, and the resurrection, Jesus said at His last supper that His blood will be shed for the forgiveness of sin, but Catholics really don’t believe in that because they believe in purgatory. Etc.
@bntaft5133
@bntaft5133 5 лет назад
Thanks boys
@derekthompson5731
@derekthompson5731 5 лет назад
I love listening to these two - they are two of my favorite theologians and even two of my overall favorite speakers on any subject (even though I don't share their views on a great number of topics). Nevertheless, it's interesting to note the equivocation on the term "God" during MacArthur's answer. He's clearly using the term "God" in this case to refer to the Father, and Jesus as the human mediator (and Mary as "not Mediator"). Which is as it should be. But then there's that tricky need to somehow include Jesus under the term "God" also. So Jesus being the mediator between God and man somehow ends up being Jesus being the mediator between man and Himself. Just some random, off-topic musings from a heretic... I agree with their position on Roman Catholicism. I think a lot was added (e.g. Mary; the cult of the saints; the Mass; relics) that was never part of Jesus's experience or teaching. But I also think a lot of the stuff they added - Protestants still accept uncritically (never having subjected it to scrutiny under fear of "losing heaven").
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 года назад
Mary said “Every generation SHALL call me blessed.” Lk. 1:48
@deancamp4914
@deancamp4914 2 года назад
Yes - she herself was blessed by God - given great favor - but can herself bless no one. She has no supernatural power.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@deancamp4914 we can all bless everyone Her more than the rest of us
@deancamp4914
@deancamp4914 2 года назад
@@PInk77W1 What evidence is there that Mary can bless more than anyone else? Luke 11 records a time when someone tried to elevate Mary - and how Jesus responded. It says, "a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Jesus responded to that lady that Mary is in no way especially blessed - but rather those who hear and keep the Scriptures are blessed.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
@@deancamp4914 Mary is the ONLY one who has heard the word of God and kept it COMPLETELY. That’s what Jesus was saying. You missed that. Mary received more Grace than the universe combined. Mary is the NEW EVE. Mary said “Do whatever He tells.”
@deancamp4914
@deancamp4914 2 года назад
@@PInk77W1 You didn't answer any of my questions. What Biblical evidence is there for any of the claims you have made? I have given you verses that show Jesus's point of view. As to your claim that Mary kept God's word completely, even Mary disagrees with you! In Luke chapter 1, Mary says, "My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior". Only sinners need a Savior - and Mary acknowledges her need of a Savior like everyone else. Mary herself contradicts your claim for her!
@TheKurthugo
@TheKurthugo 9 лет назад
Praying to Mary robs God of glory since pr ayer is an act of worship. Praying to Mary credits her with divine powers, particularly, the omniscience and omnipresence necessary to hear and respond to millions of people all at once.
@alexchristopher221
@alexchristopher221 7 лет назад
Praying to Mary is imploring her to pray for us. Mary exists in eternal glory in heaven beside real time, so she can hear all of our prayers at once. She doesn't have to be omnipresent, since time and space are finite. Beside real time, so much can be heard in a fraction of a second.
@alexchristopher221
@alexchristopher221 7 лет назад
Check your dictionary. Prayer isn't worship. It's petitioning, imploring, supplicating, and asking. Don't you ever ask other people to pray for you. God hears the prayers of the righteous. (See James 15).
@johnfountain5770
@johnfountain5770 5 лет назад
Praying to The Blessed Mary does NOT rob God of anything, it compliments God! If someone honored your mother, wouldn't you like that? We do not place The Blessed Virgin Mary on God's level, we honor Her and ask Her to intercede for us. If you're having a bad time in your life you may ask a friend to pray for you or they may offer to pray for you. Well, asking Christ's Mother is more powerful than that.
@popertop
@popertop 5 лет назад
@@alexchristopher221 It's still idolatry to pray to Mary in that case
@popertop
@popertop 5 лет назад
@@johnfountain5770 If you have Jesus Christ Himself as your intercessor, why would you pray to anyone else? He is certainly more powerful than Mary.
@randycrager4074
@randycrager4074 3 года назад
AMEN BROTHERS
@gus2600
@gus2600 3 года назад
I always wanted to Mr. Sproul. Isn't the only deciding question , is whether one is part of the elect or not ?
@mikewiththebluecar
@mikewiththebluecar 7 лет назад
I've never understood praying to Mary or the saints and asking them to pray to God on your behalf. Asking them to intercede on your behalf. It's not necessary. The reason is because we can pray to God directly ourselves. If God agrees to grant our request that's great but if not then we should accept His decision. Praying to the saints is like saying God might not grant my prayers if I ask Him directly so I will have someone else pray on my behalf in an attempt to persuade Him. Both Mary and the saints are well known for accepting God's will and not their own will. So if God decides not to grant a prayer do you think they would try to change His decision or do you think they would accept it? Are they going to point out things for God to take into consideration like for example. Let's say you tithe every week and you are doing a great job as a Christian. Do you think they would mention that to God to persuade Him? God is all knowing and infallible. So there is no evidence they can present to God that He isn't already aware of and hasn't taken into consideration when He makes His decision. So if God has already taken all that into consideration and reached a decision do you think Mary or the saints would try to change God's decision? No they won't because they believe that God's will be done not our own. So it is pointless to pray to Mary and the saints asking them to intercede for us. They aren't going to say ok God said no but don't worry I'll talk to Him about it. There's no evidence they can present to God that He doesn't already know. It's not like asking dad can I go to the movies and he says no then you ask mom to intercede on your behalf. This is why praying to Mary and the saints is pointless. It would be like going to mom and asking her to talk to dad and she would say did you ask your father? And what did he say? Well then there's your answer. Mary and the saints will always accept God's decision and they won't ask Him to change it. Asking God to change His decision is not accepting his decision. They are well known for accepting God's decisions without question because they know He knows what is best for us.
@Error_404_23
@Error_404_23 7 лет назад
Then asking living Christians to pray for you is also pointless. Don't you agree?
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 7 лет назад
mikewiththebluecar: Amen !! Matt 6 says that our Heavenly Father already knows what's in our hearts. it doesnt make sense for Mary and the patron saints to take our prayers to Jesus.
@AlphaOmega888
@AlphaOmega888 7 лет назад
You don't understand because you truly don't believe people are in heaven - because your soul is NOT in communion with heaven (you don't have the Spirit) because you are cut off. I wish you could be able to hear what I just said.. its very said to see people condemning themselves to eternal torment. If you WERE baptized legally then your soul IS in communion with heaven and not at enmity with God. Now it's just a matter of getting to know the Spirit and getting in touch with part of your true nature. It took me 2 years or trial and error but I could not be deceived. Heaven to me is a reality just like Jesus is. He's not a fictional Character in some book. Neither are the Saints or the Martyrs.
@bornagainsaint1
@bornagainsaint1 7 лет назад
TakeSomeAdvice: My soul is in communion with Jesus. The Holy Spirit brings me to Jesus. I am not condemning myself because I refuse to pray to Mary or to anyone else. I hear what you are saying, and you are wrong. The Catholic Church hinders people from going to Jesus, and that is horrible and satanic. How dare this church tell the world that we must go thru Mary because Jesus came thru her. Of course He was born from Mary thru the Holy Spirit, but that does not constitute a law that we must go thru her first. I don't need to go thru Mary, and no that is not disrespect toward Mary either.
@mikewiththebluecar
@mikewiththebluecar 7 лет назад
bornagainsaint1 I agree brother the Catholic Church says even tho Jesus sacrifice Himself to pay for all of our sins we still have sins that are not forgiven and we must pay for them in purgatory. According to the Catholic Church Mary can get you out of purgatory if the church asks her to. But it usually costs quite a bit of money. I don't know why people believe that garbage. I think it's mostly cause by ignorance of the bible. Too many people are content to go by what they are told rather than studying the scriptures to learn the truth.
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