Spyderco Manix 2 Cruwear beat down, is it all that and why it's one of my favorite tool steels. 

I'm hoping they will return at some point. I'm not quitting anytime soon

Hey , kenny delete his channel ?!

Thank you, Cruwear is one everyone should try.

Thank you

You're welcome and Merry Christmas.

The good thing about Cruwear is when I sweat on it the spotting wipes off with my fingers. That was Florida summer 98 degrees and very wet all day.

@@Outpost_76 it’s just piece of mind having that extra layer of protection with the coated blade.

Thank you

I like V4E, I'm going to try to get some for some videos after Christmas to compare to the Spyderco and SPK 4V.

I do have the smooth cf Cruwear Manix as well as the gray diamond G10 version. Can't have too much Cruwear.

@@Outpost_76its a bumpin" EDC steel for sure. It, rex45 and k390. Maxamet goes without saying but cruwear is really quick to take a beautiful edge. Especially for the edge holding and toughness. Polished, toothy or anything between. Quick stop and right back to work. The black glove works well for the edge on camera btw... I cast to TV so yeah...

Benchmade has the Adamas and mini coming in Cruwear as regular production. It's one I'm definitely going to test.

@@Outpost_76 looking forward to it, hoping for good things.

You're welcome

Cruwear chip all the time? Man, cruwear is one of the tougher steels, one of the last steel that will chip on you. Where did you get that idea from?

I beat on my cruwears and they don’t chip.

Oh yeah. PD#1 Spyderco mule, which is essentially cruwear, was still on sale on sydercos website up until not long ago. I kick myself for not buying another one. A fixed blade cruwear knife is gonna be expensive, and a great companion knife

Edge Stability is so important and seems underrated. I value that over ultra high edge retention

@@BenoJ3000 I tend to agree on a fixed blade of more than 3.5 inches. I have been looking for a fixed blade to beat on with a very high edge stable steel, like 52100, nitro v, 4v or cruwear....sleipner is in that category as well

Cruwear is slightly tougher than 4v with about the same edge retention. Cruwear is probably easier to strop and sharpen, but I'm just guessing.

Cruwear and K390 are pretty close for me in which I like more. Cruwear I like for its wide versatility and K390 from Seki and in customs/small batch heat treating I like for it's great wear resistance. Out of those 3 I'd order them Cruwear at the top, K390 then Rex 45. I still can't warm up to Rex so I'll be doing more testing and carry time to see if I come around to it. Golden K390 I'm going to do a video on this week and talk about it, K390 from Seki and Golden are quite different from my use and testing.

@@Outpost_76 Thanks so much and looking forward to the coming videos.

Benchmade is stepping up and the Adamas and mini will both be in Cruwear. I'm not sure on a large scale they will consistently hit the 63-65 hrc they are advertising but I'm definitely going to get one to test. As far as Golden Spyderco models the Manix easily takes that spot. I also enjoy the Para 3 but it's always going to be a second to the Manix.

@@Outpost_76 didn't know about Benchmade in CruWear, where can I pick up more information?

That spot wiped off with my finger. The only benefit S45VN would have over Cruwear is corrosion resistance. Cruwear is pretty good at not staining easily and you would have to leave any spotting on it for it to pit. I personally prefer Cruwear due to the increased wear resistance, better edge stability and impact resistance. It's also much tougher than S45VN. My pick would be Cruwear and the example I have for testing from the new Dlt run is at a good hardness. For the price it's worth picking up the Dlt Cruwear PM2.

Living in an occasionally humid part of California, my k390 knife got rust spots over the last three months sitting with a coat of rem oil. Cruwear didn’t show any signs of corrosion through it was used frequently and barely oiled. I don’t know if too much oil causes rusting. A2 is not okay here either. Interestingly, 3v is not a problem here. Even on the one blade kept in its leather sheath for over a year

Consider what role you want for the pm2. It’s got a delicate tip which I wouldn’t trust in a stainless steel as my only knife. But living in a very humid environment, I wouldn’t spend big money unless it’s stainless

@@yogipony9016 FYI - Rem Oil did not prevent rust very well in some test I ran, Frog Lube, Eezox, Break Free Collector and others did WAY better!

I'm going to do them all at once. I may add the Adamas in Cruwear to the test if its available when I'm ready.

@@Outpost_76 Further on in the video I see where you say that. Sorry, lot of extra days and long hours at the USPS, hence asking questions for I forget them.

Sure,any preference on which one you would like to see?

@@Outpost_76 1075,1095 or the more rare 5160?

52100 as hard as possible..@@Outpost_76

It's an emulsion and it's the Bark River cbn 16 micron. I got mine from DLT trading. It gives good coverage and lasts well before needing to reapply. It also works very well and I'm going to try the 8 micron cbn as well.

I did some research on these and it is indeed brass and not bronze.

I'll see what I can do to cover that. Maybe a multiple knife video against copper. I have many of the ones I've already done this type of test on.

@@Outpost_76 I recommend going to your local Home Depot. They sell big wire by the foot usually 3 or 4$ per foot you can get a 2 foot 1/0 piece of copper insulated wire for around 10$ Then strip about a half inch of the insulation and you’ll have lots of test material left over. The reason I say this is because it’s nearly impossible to avoid digging into copper as you strip it plus copper looks cool on camera and actually can be cut by a good steel. I always see tests that would never really happen in day to day use and so I understand I’m just one person but I know alotttt of guys in the trades that carry and use their knives much harder than even a camper or survivalist. Granted a survivalist might use it to chop wood but construction guys use it harder over a longer period of time I bet. And probably make up a huge market share. Just my 2 🪙 PEACE! ✌🏽

That depends on what the use is going to be

These scales came on another Manix I picked up, I never had the 154/S90V Manix version. Kurt won't be doing any more videos due to his workload now. BJ has his machine now and Steve has been busy and I don't think he will be doing many more videos either.

@@Outpost_76 I wanted to send a couple knifes, 0392s: and a Medford Onbelay & Oberland Arms Titan Sepp (both in D2 but with black coating, I know not a true reading) to Kurt to test. Thanks for info.

Well that’s not good

This is the one Kurt tested at 61.8 hrc.

I really dislike D2, even the better stuff I've found.

@@Outpost_76 I know. Just funning with you.

I've had better luck with Cruwear over M4

@@Outpost_76 - Roger. I don't have any real experience with Cruwear. What are it's properties, strengths and weaknesses?

Cruwear has slightly better toughness but M4 has slightly better edge retention. People seem to have an easier time stropping and sharpening cruwear back up. They're both good imo, just depends on what you'd prefer. I personally like cruwear more (paramilitary 2).

Try delta 3v. Much better 3v heat treatment developed by Carothers but used by another brand, Survive iirc. Carothers does some really good heat treatments on d2 and a few other steels as well. Heat treatment is over looked in a lot of knives (geometry also) but it's also more expensive the more involved it can get.

@@tacticalcenter8658 i can see a higher hrc costing slightly more money, but not alot. Alex Steingraber does higher hrc on his knife steels and no significant cost that I can see. @alexsteingraber or am I wrong?

@@tacticalcenter8658 I know Carothers knives have seen a once, but not the Delta you mentioned, I will go check it! I wish I could get my hands on these knives,but I can't get that kind of knives where I live. I deleted what I said about 3V, because other people could be offended and I don't have the time to explain that its just my opinion and my taste. I like Vanadis 4 extra more than any other tool steel I have tried. I also love handforged ballbearing steel! I go check some delta. Thanks!

@@greekveteran2715 I don't think anyone would be offended and your not completely wrong about it. But yea if you can find delta 3v, you'll probably like it more than vanadis 4e. I have a shaman in 4v a similar analog. While I don't really like the model it's still a decent tool and that 4v holds up good.

@@tacticalcenter8658 Carothers has taken 3V way further than the last time I had seen his 3V knives! Cool stuff

I agree to a point, I have some interesting ones I've tested in this way coming up. I was surprised what some soft and medium hardness wood can do to some of these steels.ill get more in to those in the videos.

@@Outpost_76 Yes depends on wood too.. Dry Ebony will do about the damage as copper, equally dry oak is very hard and very dense indeed.. What I meant was fresh mediocre wood won't do much but I tried only edge stability not extensive cutting.. Dry Ebony it's like iron🙏 Thank you Gerald👍PS The aluminum is very sticky so it's more likely the aluminum residue rather than damage if you feel some.. I always use strop or cloth to take the aluminum of the edge

@@georgeyoung4292 I should post the S110V chopping oak, it chipped that like crazy. The bigger branch piece I've been using is about 2 years old now since I took it down. I may incorporate oak again, I just need to see if what I have is still good. It will be nice to see soft medium and hatd woods and how it differs. Maybe I should look in to getting a piece of a very hatd wood for lateral apex stress and see what happens with that. There is aluminum residue left and I did forget to add the Rex Shaman took micro chips so I'm curious to see if it gets any better as time goes on.

@@Outpost_76 I will send you some something.. georgeyoung0326@gmail.com🤝 It may take a while cause I'm on holiday but I'll try to get you something for testing.. Mary Christmas and Happy New Year 2021 G🙏 Let's hope it'll be better cause this year was SHITE💩