Hi, thanks for the video! Question: Should I buy a new Harley Benton baritone (200$) or bass vi (500$) if I am an average guitar enjoyer who use vst and plays chugs for himself in a bedroom ? Is there a big difference in sound/feel? I am not sure if you played HB, but maybe you have opinion/advice anyway. Thanks!
@sergeisukhorukov2971 thanks for watching! I haven’t tried one but I’ve seen many reviews on them and they seem to have a lot of quality control issues. I think the Squier is safer and you also get the whammy! But again, I haven’t tried the HB. I think the pickups sound great in the Squier. Check out my 3 playthroughs with it and see if you dig the sound
Hi Brendon, got my Squier VI today! Where is that community post you mention in this video which lists different strings to use with the bass? In my region that Fender set is not readly available and the easiest option is the Daddario EXL156 24-84, any comments about it? Which tunings could I reach with it? Thanks for you valuable videos!!!
Honored by the inclusion & top spot for low tunings 🔥 I made it for my own tones and uses, specifically for low tunings, so I really appreciate when people "get it" and enjoy it like you have Brendon
The II II II II is seriously the best amp sim for low tunings, I own a ton of amp sims and I always use yours for anything lower than drop C. Thanks for making my baritones and bass VI sound killer 👍
I love my bass VI. I had two Pawn Shop models, but now have a Custom Shop. Absolutely fantastic instrument, and far underused. I'm glad folks are finally getting wise to them.
That’s amazing. I always wanted to try a pawn shop one. My friend rented a Squier bass vi like 6 years ago and I liked it but it wasn’t quite there. I think the newest renditions are “there” now
Thank you Brendon! I struggled so much with songwriting and getting motivated with music. Your channel has alleviated many headaches. My younger self thanks you 💜
@@BrendonKPadjasek i actually have one, but thats more in "live" situation than recording. Me and my band is having alot of troubles getting the live sound to sound remotly close to the recordings. The one thing in perticular is the vocals. When i record at home i have some plugins and have a decent amount of knowledge to tweak it to sound pretty good. But with the pa system it sucks... have any tips?
If you take your hands off the strings it makes noisy any guitar with passive pickups especially single coils. Cause ground is actually going to your body so when you take off your hands you kinda lift the ground. With active pickups like emg they normally don’t attach the ground wire to the bridge, cause they use different logic of connection and attach it to a pickup and pickups are using batteries and another magic is going on etc etc…
Thank you for checking it out! I believe all guitars are workable unless they’re absolutely messed up haha. Theres workarounds for everything. I just love the starting point this guitar provides for heavy stuff
@@BrendonKPadjasek I just learned about this yesterday and its an amazing trick people have been using forever. You basically use the bobbin of a single coil hidden behind the pick gaurd. Ita wired between the volume and output usually. Basically acts as a noise cancelling pickup but without actually changing the original single coil tone because without the magnets and pole pieces it doesnt fully function as a pickup. Google it. I was floored by how easy and effective it is.
Great review and advices. Good to see another video of this guitar on your channel and follow stuffs you did on it. Before receiving mine I thought about changing pick-ups, but now I have it I thinks they are great, both for clean and distortion ! Single coils are amazing on this tuning.
Thanks for your videos Brendon, they helped convince me to purchase a Bass VI. I love it. Just wanted to share my experience for those interested (sorry for long post). In the shop I was not impressed with the guitar, it was poorly setup, the high strings were tight, the low strings were loose. The pickups were weak and noisy, but I knew the guitar had these tones in it. I paid $675 AUD new which is dirt cheap for a new guitar. Taking it home, it took a fair bit of work to get it playing the way I wanted. I used the string joy tension calculator to get some ball park tensions for what I wanted. Baritones can run higher tension than standard scale and still handle bends (I like 21-35 pounds for low strings, 16-25 pounds for high strings to bend more). I settled on 90 62 48 30 24w 16p, which was a mishmash of string sets I already had. This caused an issue with the non-baritone strings which were too short, so I tied some string off cuts together to reach the tuners, so far it is stable and works better than expected, but the knot took a while to settle in. Setup for Drop F it feels fantastic. I'm hoping it can go down to Drop D, any lower I reckon I'll need a thicker gauge. On the Bass VI I own, some of the screws are misaligned, like it was built in a hurry on a Friday afternoon, but that's mostly cosmetic. I had to straighten the neck a fair amount, lower the action, raise the pickups. The pickups seem microphonic under volume. But the tone is glorious, heavy but articulate. I was playing along to Obsession by Northlane and those big chords in the chorus, every string is defined and clear. Funnily enough I had zero issues with intonation, and haven't touch the intonation, even after flipping the bridge. I own the Squire Baritone Jazzmaster (the loathe model) and that guitar is much better, but for half the price and much greater availability, this is the next best thing. I might swap pickups but happy so far.
That’s amazing. So glad you picked one up. And I definitely resonate with most of those issues you had. Thanks for leaving this here for others to see as well!
great in depth demonstration on the VI :) especially like the tip on achieving proper intonation and tuning stability with the trem! makes me more confident to buy one now! also, single coil middles are intentionally wound in reverse to not double the hum (counteract the phase) and then the hand off strings means you're offering the final bit of grounding the signal needs.
Thank you so much! Depending on which tuning you’re going for, you may have better or worse luck with it. I’m finding it great in A That makes a lot of sense as to why the noise dips when in position 2/ 4. I gotta figure how to fix the grounding issue.
@@BrendonKPadjasek when i did a 27" conversion neck on one of my strats i was planning on A standard but instead went the full octave to E standard since I've been doing drop E on a 27" 8 string I've had for about 14 years XD so crazy to think drop A another octave below that haha but yeah you can't use a neck strat pickup in place of tele for that reason and as for grounding i feel like it's an issue of not enough metal on the guitar in general
Man, I'd love to see a deep dive of amp settings, EQ, effects, etc. that you used to get this. I'm doing drop G on a bass VI and it sounds pretty good, but not as good as yours. I'm also using a tube amp though.
Likely the tube amp situation. I should do a deep dive on that though, you’re right. I have a few videos on my channel about how I get the tone but never 100% from scratch Thanks for watching!
I don't remember if I told you this but the reason I had issues with that plugin being too muddy is because I never put an OD before it lol now I'm gonna try it haha!
@BrendonKPadjasek nah dude, thank you for putting this and the music you have. All of the above, divided by, Life through a window, none of the above and even your work with northlane has been such a huge inspiration for me and my best friend over the last 9 years, we both still struggle like hell to play hydroplaning 😂 but I literally learned to scream to life through a window and it changed how I approached guitar I general. So please don't thank me, we thank you ❤️ Cannot fucking wait to hear more from you
@hounsdjentlow3074 awe thank you so much. That really does mean a lot to me and I appreciate that. It’s all about finding weird combinations and trying to do things with the instrument that aren’t “normal” approaches
I had no idea you’d started doing RU-vid and tutorials until this was on my suggestions today, but all of this stuff from you is something I’ve always wanted for years! 😂 Ever since my buddy Tyler McFadden showed me some little structures guitar sound tricks over like 12 years ago like the growls. Watching through so many of the vids this morning and you’re crushing it dude, keep it all up!! Ridiculously massive wealth of relevant modern information and tricks. 🙏🏻
@@BrendonKPadjasek of course man, no problem! Definitely along for the ride. If I can ever help with any annoying video issues or questions, feel free to hit me up but you’ve honestly got the formulas down. I’ll make note of any questions after if I’m sure you haven’t already covered them! 😌
For reasons my guitar teacher once told me, and for which I lack the proper knowledge of physics to explain properly, the intonation across the strings becomes more stable at lower pitches.
Thanks so much! There’s a lot of quirks with every guitar. I love to find work arounds since it’s such a great instrument for metal music
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Thanks so much for your videos on this guitar. You inspired me to upgrade from my old Ibanez (which does not suit the metalhead I have become) and it’s arriving tomorrow! Found one for a great price on eBay so it was a no brainer. Looking forward to playing around with it. Thanks again 😊
Oh that’s amazing I love finding a good deal haha Thanks so much my man! Stoked to hear how you like it. Did you get the classic vibe bass vi?
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@@BrendonKPadjasek Thanks for your reply! Yeah it's the classic vibe bass vi, I managed to get it for £380, shipping + gig bag + spare strings included! I actually had a question about it, maybe you can help. I think I've done everything you said: I flipped the bridge, filed down the nut, put the Fender 250 strings on it and have some temporary fret wraps (socks, haha!), but I'm still finding that the bottom E has a lot of buzz/doesn't ring out well at all on the higher frets, especially when downtuned at all (I have it in drop B just now). Any ideas? :)
@Seimimusic I think this just the nature of having a super thick string as a guitar. I have the same issue as well and kind of just live with it haha
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@@BrendonKPadjasek Aha I wondered if that was the case! Good to know it's just how things are. Thanks so much! Just got the ii ii ii ii amp sim and it sounds great. Looking forward to making stuff like your awesome instrumentals!
@Seimimusic thank you so much for the kind words. I’ve been too busy with work to actually make some more of my own but I should have time in the coming weeks
Great video, you did some tweaks I didnt know. I tuned mine in C standard with a low G using some custom La bella strings which sound great. Being a bassist Im not using it that much, just for fun.
OTTO Audio's II II II II is by far the best option in the sim world for metal and rock tones. Their doubling algorithm alone is worth the price of admission.
It is very sick. It's been my go to. I keep auditioning different amp sims but they don't do this low tuning justice. Which guitars are you playing through it?
@@BrendonKPadjasek Typically an ESP MH1000ET, although I run my Spector Legend through it often, and just use Bass Mint from Unfiltered Audio to fill out the low end.
@frankjager1647 you are the only other person I’ve heard mention bass mint. Literally one of my favourite plugins for the past few years. Can’t live without it for drums
Thanks for the info Brendon it’s great too hear and see more players pick this guitar up and fiddle around and make a genuine pros and cons list which I’ve taken into consideration The only slight issue that I have this guitar is that I would love too have a thinner string gauges
Eh I appreciate that! I feel like all instruments deserve the time out in to learn them. They all can do something but not everything. How low were you planing to tune?
I've got a somewhat specific request. Obviously, you can ignore it. I'm very intrigued by this guitar. I was at a local guitar shop and was telling the employees about my band and the changes that have been happening. Namely the guitar tuning and general lineup. They brought out this bass, and I've never seen anything like it. I'll say too that I'm a drummer first and that I always wrote drum tracks first, then presented those to my guitarists. Then, a few years ago or so, I became serious about guitar and started writing the more melodic portions of the music. A year and a half ago, I bought an 8 string and created a tuning for what works well with my chord and writing style. So what I'm curious about is how do chord progressions sound in a very low tuning on this? As if this was the only guitar being played. My tuning on the 8 string from lowest to highest is this... E2 B2 E3 B3 F#4 A4 C#5 F#5 On my bassist's 6 string bass, E1 B1 F#2 A2 C#3 F#3 So I'm curious about effectively barring down the E and B as the root notes of the chords and then playing the melody notes on the higher 4 strings. My bassist and I have tried doing it, but it sounds too muddy due to the tuning and feels awkward due to the spacing. So I'm wondering if the triple single coil pickups and closer spacing would make it more viable. Like I said, I'm a drummer first, so if it's just an obvious "no," I understand. That being said though, if this guitar sounds good in that low of a tuning with the scale length, maybe I'd buy one to use for general writing in studio, and then he can record finals on his bass. I did see one video with this guitar where it says that it's in Drop E and that the string gauge range is 24 - 84. While it does sound sick, I don't think it is correct due to me using an 80 for my E2 on my 8 string. According to a string gauge calculator online, to hit E1, it recommends somewhere around a 118 for the scale length.
I have a few songs on my channel using tunings lower than E1 and I think it handles quite well. There’s 4 songs. Check them out if you’d like. I think it will be good for what you’re looking for
Oh that’s awesome. Thank you! It’s hard to say. The 4x12 is a classic and everyone’s used to seeing it on stage. Even though you won’t need to push the volume that loudly. Appearance wise, 4x12. Volume wise. 1z12 lol
Awesome video, definitely subscribing. You mentioned the noise when on a clean channel. Does that noise go away at all when you swivel to a different position in your chair, or move to a different spot in the room? I just got a Sub-Zero Rogue VI baritone (30 inch scale just like your Squire btw) it kind of does the same thing, as do most guitars at least a little bit. Typically if I just turn to a different position the noise goes away completely. Anyway thanks for the awesome video!!
Thank you so much! If there's any topics you'd like covered, let me know! It does slightly. My strat does that but wayy worse than this one. I find the clean quite useable when in position 2 or 4. Sounds great
Nut slot depth will help with how in-tune the low frets are. If it's only a little bit out, then you're probably fine because you're balancing action height with the truss rod tension. It's probably worth having a tech give it a setup, I'm wondering if a small shim in the neck pocket would help you get a little more height and break angle on the bridge. Cool to see a bass VI used in a different context
Oh that’s a really good point. I unfortunately know the bare minimum when it comes to tech stuff so I likely should bring it in. It’s a very versatile instrument
@@BrendonKPadjasek It's all good just trying to be helpful since your videos have a lot of great knowledge nuggets. If it's your favorite for recording, the spa treatment will be totally worth it :)
Oh yeah I’ve definitely used it for recent mixes as a guitar quad. I don’t know what it is but I just can’t get the Nameless to sound full as a main guitar. It’s always a bit ratty for me but that’s what I love about it at the same time. I always know it’ll be a great blending amp/ quad amp tone
Hahaha thank you. I could be wrong but I believe I created it. I have a video where I go explain how to do it. Kinda hard over text. 5 CRAZY Metalcore GUITAR Sounds ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DnwmcoXRWKs.html
The only sad part about getting this instrument is having to always order the right strings online because where i live they don't have them at stores. Great video as always
Yeah same here! And I’m in Toronto so I feel like it’s just one of those things that are so uncommon you have to order it. Maybe we can all change that haha. I ordered 6 sets so I’m good for a year I’d say. The amount that I play
@@BrendonKPadjasek I can buy a 7 string string set on the store but i still have to order the 0.80 gauge for my 8 string guitar. AND it must be Ernie ball or else i will have to drill a hole in the tuning peg to fit the string. Would still love to get this guitar one day tho.
@@BrendonKPadjasek If i buy another brand i will have to unwind the string so it goes fully through the hole without the need of drilling it. Wish they somehow made "universal" strings so it fits right away on any guitar lol
@nunofmpires haha I wish that as well but unfortunately they all have different needs. And whether it’s a string through body, or extended range or normal. Too many factors
Thank you! I've learned a lot of tricks over the years to make any equipment work for a task so I know what to look for and how to go about showing its options. At least I think I do lmao
Awesome informative and in depth review! I am curious if swapping the pots to 1Meg, would improove clarity? Thanks for all the tips and tricks you shared. The Squier Bass VI has been on my radar for some time now since messing with one in a store, I liked out it sounded in it's standard configuration and wondered how the stock pickup and the bass strangle circuit would handle in a baritone guitar context.
I had the exact same wonders about the guitar. It just made sense that if im tuning lower, I should use one of these Thanks for watching it ! I feel like that would improve it. Once I get a new bridge pickup I’ll give it a full overhaul
Curious to see what bridge pickup you will go with. Most my other 30" inch baritones have EMG's in them as i find those are the Clearest and most cutting for the long scale and dropped tunings. Even the Fluences that everyone raves about doesn't seem to be as clear in this context. Looking forward to any future videos on this instrument!@@BrendonKPadjasek
Have you checked your ground on that guitar mate? If you are getting the hum to go away when you touch the strings, it could be because your body is grounding the instrument. Might just be a shotty connection to your spring claw on the trem or to the pickup itself. Also, you could add some shielding into the cavities, including the pickup cavities to decrease hum!
Yeah I think a lot of people have a negative view of the guitar since it’s for whatever reason not set up the best out of the box. But as we both know, with very minimal effort this thing can rock
I find that for best bass mode is all 3 pickups are on, I think Sergio Vega from Deftones played like this on his Bass VI. I've been taking a liking to it as a bass, it is different but that''s what's good about it.
I think it’s sick as a bass too. I think a lot of the complaints about the instrument come from people trying to use it as a bass where those using it as a guitar seem to really enjoy it. But yeah. Other than not being able to play it with my fingers like a normal bass I think it sounds great
Ehh thanks for checking them out. Hmmm, its hard to say because I didn't change bridge situation until after i dedicated to drop A. I'd say try the stock ones and if you can't get it intonated by flipping the bridge, maybe try lighter? I feel like the stock ones may be good. if you want it to sound like a guitar I'd go .080 on the top string and like unwound first 2 strings. BUT I haven't tried this so I cant really say
i use the fender 24-100s on my bass vi. the stock strings are too light and are a nightmare when you try and play the lower strings. they're too light and floppy, which contributes to the intonation thing
@@BrendonKPadjasekthe M80M is about twice as much 29.4” not 30” like the other guy thought but I would have to agree that the M80M and M8M are the best for downtuned stuff because of clarity and that you aren’t limited to just the 6 low strings. Highly recommend you try one one day.
@SpiritofPoison if ever have that much to spend on a guitar I definitely will. There’s no doubt in my mind it would kick ass. Would love to have those high strings again too
@@BrendonKPadjasek I bought my M80M for 1k flat. You just have to be vigilant on deals. Personally i’ve never missed the smaller necks and like being able to use my entire hand to hold one like an 8 but I can see how the Squier can be comfortable. Appreciate your response.
Thinking of buying this guitar but around the 13:20 mark when your take off your hand and the buzz increases, is there any way to fix that? I have that problem with a 4 string trad bass and I’m wondering if it’s a wiring issue or some pickup issue. Nice review tho
Thanks for checking it out. I personally haven’t found a fix for it, but I feel like every single coil guitar I’ve had does that, as well as my Rickenbacker. Some people in the comments said they had a fix for it but I’ve never had any luck
That really means a lot! Thank you. And yeah, if you have any topics you’re struggling with let me know in the comments of a video and I’ll get an idea going
I actually did think about doing that exact same thing but including my own structures kind of sounds so maybe one day I will. I’m planning to make my own type of plug in , that my homie is going to show me how to use Kontakt to make plugins so stay tuned. Hope to have something before Christmas. Not necessarily this guitar thing, but something
That would be incredible. Something to consider while developing: the ability to choose which string you want to play a note on. Having access to every note on every string is what makes virtual guitars stand out from others(see the Shreddage series, Submission Audio basses and Odin III vs regular samplers). Its a lot to ask of you, but if your VST has those kind of multisampled frets, my wallet and heart belongs to you.
@codexstudios I’ve thought of that as well! I have been mentally trouble shooting how I would do it, I think it would be recording the guitar as an open note in every option for that guitar and string gauge Still in the troubleshooting mode
@@BrendonKPadjasek wow i think i'm love with this guitar! or bass? how does it sound with light/medium amounts of overdrive? like something similar to loathes lighter tones from i let it in
@coma594 yeah I mean I haven’t tried anything on this that I haven’t loved. Great guitar guitar, bass, cleans and some grit. I really wanna try putting guitar strings on it
@@BrendonKPadjasek both would be cool! Your insight into build ups, drum programming and overall song flow have been super helpful for me to start writing more modern stuff so I think this could be a natural progression of that! Especially since breakdowns and choruses are the main set pieces for a metalcore song. Also thanks for the content man, it's super helpful! My mixes still sound like rocks inside a blender, but y'know 🤷♂️
@michaelgordon8491 hahahaa I love that analogy. And thank you so much! That all makes sense I have a similar breakdown video in the works so the chorus one definitely makes sense
I agree about the .065". The Fender support told me that their Bass VI set was manufactured by D'Addario. So I will maybe buy a .060" single guitar string from D'Addario. It will also help reduce the gap in gauge with the next string (.044"). With my Bass VI and the 24-100, I still prefer to keep it in E Standard and pitch it down. I finally tried the 24-100 on my 8 string 30" and it feels to big. I will put back a 90 and tried in E or just get back to 74 on F#. I may have just bought a G5260 ... Oops.
Hahaha gear is so tempting. Let me know how you like it! And yeah, not at all sure why they have a .65 in there. Are the strings not too tight now in E standard ?
@@BrendonKPadjasek I bought it like 2 or 3 years ago to use as a Bass VI, not planning to tune it lower. So after ditching the stock strings, I always had it in E standard with the 24-100 set. I'm ok with the tension but I can feel it on the tuners when I tune it. I hope that they won't break someday ! I plan to put lighter strings (90) on the G5260 and use it more as a guitar.
Hi, Brendon! FIrst of of all - been huge fan if Life Through A Window LP recently, thanks for a nice tunes. Divided By is good, but idk, compared to the next release it lacks a little bit of...Structures? :D Second - I wanted to ask a question. I have Harley Benton baritone, and wanted to ask a question regarding the strings - what gauges are out there, good for Drop E - Drop D, with dipping into C#(Northlane's current tuning) without filing the nut or tuning peg? Been using Ernie Ball's 13-72 set, which is good enough for everything until bass E Standard. I think Fender's strings may be too long, since theirs bridge is farther to the back + nut filing, which is a bit no no for me
@@BrendonKPadjasek Thank you for making a great records as well :) As for the guitar - the scale itself is also 30", but it has a more standard bridge, compared to one of Bass VI, where it is almost at the edge of a guitar.I'm a bit low on budget, and thick strings are rather expensive compared to regular ones, so cannot really buy much at all, and have to dig through online resources
Ahh okay I think you could likely use the 13-72 (8string set) and remove the 2 thinnest strings and throw an 84 or 80 on top if you can get a single. I still would suggest getting the D’addario .024-.084 Bass VI set. It’s only a bit more than the 12-72
@@BrendonKPadjasek I honestly find the old traditional flat scale better, because they use the EMG shaped pickups, so you can throw Guitar pickups in there, while the MS one uses the Bartolini P2 shaped pickups, which are only used by bass guitars.
Depending on what you’re going for! I think any baritone will be suited for guitar strings, ie not have big enough wholes in the tuners to fit bass size strings. But if you want it to sound a bit more like a guitar than a 30” baritone may be better for you I love this as a guitar. Wouldn’t look back Thanks for watching!
Have you ever tested the whole thing via a lineswitch? It would be very interesting to play bass and guitar at the same time. Can't find a bass player 😅
That’s for watching. I definitely got wayyy closer intonation using it. Wouldn’t have as easy of a time playing it if it wasn’t for that. My top 3 strings are nearly at the end
@BrendonKPadjasek How do you feel about Seymour Dumcan Jag quarter pounders? Want to find a good pick up to replace the old ones but most the stuff I read give suggestions for pickups that make it sound more like a bass.
@mighkeydevious2748 hmm I haven’t heard anything about the Duncan jags. I was talking to Josh of Northlane and he has the Impulse Bare Knuckle line. He actually suggested to go with the hum buckers over the single coil for the low tunings.
@BrendonKPadjasek problem for me though is I don't really want to have to mod the body to get the hamburgers to fit. You should see the table I tried to build last summer for my wife, it's in a thrift store somewhere advertised as a death trap.
Kinda seems like it might not be properly grounded. I had the problem of hum that stopped when I touched the strings, and I fixed it by redoing the grounding wire connected to the bridge, making sure that connection was solid.
Oh I didn’t realize there was a fix for it. I just assumed it was a single cool thing as my strat does it too. I gotta get more comfortable with soldering
@@BrendonKPadjasek this is kind of my safe place. Because no one are in to the music that I am. I bought a sub-zero 30 inch scale two months ago, and really like the sound of it. I’m gonna buy 26-95 strings and go to drop C Is the idea.
@metalheadofsweden1742 I’m definitely finding more people in this space so luckily we’re out there haha. Sick I’ve heard great things about the sub zero
Wonderful review! Tell me, does the noise from bridge single-coil interfere with during the high-gain playing or recording?How are you dealing with this? Does noise gate help?
Thank you so much. To be honest, it barely does. If you’ve seen any of the 3 playthroughs I wrote on it, I don’t have any issues. Definitely hear the noise in the bass when it’s isolated. But it’s never isolated. Noise gate helps but when I record I always have it off and manually gate
@@BrendonKPadjasek yeah my production knowledge is poopy when it comes to the terms, but yeah; I figured you'd go into the buses or individual tracks or w.e and eq them by hand to remove any bleed from your signal chain.
@goobingtons ahhh not eq for the noise he’s talking about, I just manually gate them and make sure that when I palm mute, if it’s meant to be held out, I chug near close to the bridge to make it thicker. Other than that, haven’t needed to do anything other than manually chop it. I definitely edit the guitars heavily though, because I want them to sound good and motivating. I don’t have an ego when it comes to guitar tracking. I always make sure the riff is playable and change things if it’s not, then record them and take it in pieces until it sounds professional
I feel like it likely would, but then we'd lose the Whammy which to me has become a must. And becoming my favourite feature. Aside from the low tuning. Thanks for watching!
I have the subzero rogue vi (modded to shit as one does) and i absolutely love it, but honestly that whammy bar is sick to have. As far as the amp goes, I've found that the diezel Herbert is also amazing (I'm using either STL tonehub or the brainworx version)
Oh yeah. I was loving the will Putney Diezel VH4 and I use the Diezel Herbert when I’m monitoring guitar in UAD Console and it sounds great. But when I mix I always have better luck with Otto. Try it out for the 14 day trial and see if you like it. I’m curious if you do
Mine was terribly noisy anytime the tone knob was rolled up. So I redid the entire cavity shielding with copper foil tape. Problem gone on any and all pickup and tone settings.
@@BrendonKPadjasek Judging by the video, much noisier. And very susceptible to old building mains and ground loops etc. Mine's a Vintage Modified, maybe the components are different?
There’s a lot of mixed reviews online about whether single coils produce more clarity for low tuning so it’s hard to tell. Been considering putting in some new pickups to see the difference
@@BrendonKPadjasek I couldn't tell but all i know is that double coil reduce buzz and hum in general so for distorted signal it could be be better maybe ? Don't have the gear to verify by myself but i want to get my hand on a baritone but i don't know where to look
@arman-eb3vv honestly, probably the 8 string pack from d’addario or Ernie ball and take out the highest strings. That and possibly slapping an 84 on top but it’s probably fine with the 72 with the 30” neck
Hey thanks so much for the kind words and for checking it out. I haven’t tried HX stomp or heard of it tbh. I just use Otto Audio 11 11 for this guitar because nothing works quite as well. They have a free trial if you’re interested in checking it out. I also have an hour long real time mix tutorial on how I mix my songs
hay dude hope u doing fine i play bass in d standard in my band but i dlove to try this just for the lols ,,,what string gauge and brand you recommed to tune it down one whole step to D standard from E standard
Thats awesome. When I was testing it in drop C, the .024-.084 worked pretty great, and the only difference would be the top string being slightly tighter for D. I believe those are the stock gauges. I think D'Addario makes one like that. Ernie Ball does a .020 - .090
as someone who is not a fan of this type of whammy at all, im probably gonna get the Harley Benton version with the LP style bridge. from what ive seen in a review is that the pickups arent the best and a simple switch with some hot ones would most likely fix it and make it sound better. gonna get some HOT wilkinson single coils to switch out in it. i already got the Harley benton JA baritone 30" scale and i love it. want something like this aswell that isnt p90 pickups.
Sounds good. Let me know how it turns out. I’ve heard the quality control is quite bad so hopefully you don’t get a lemon Lots of horror stories to do with HB
@@BrendonKPadjasek i have a few harley bentons and i can say ive been very lucky with QC and never really had an issue at all with them. Also customer service is usually great and you can send guitars back and get a full refund
@@BrendonKPadjasek currently i have the Fusion-T HT, JA-Baritone 30", JA-60cc, DC-DLX (sg type guitar) and a Fusion III EMG. Ordered the Harley Benton R-458FFB Roasted MultiScale a few days ago to get my hands on an 8 string to try out, so i cant say anything on that one as of yet
I haven’t tried the sub zero. Even if I did, I’d choose this one specifically because I love having the whammy. I know the build quality is great on this. I’ve heard mostly good things about the subzero but I’ve also seen some bad on it
I personally was having better intonation luck with having it in drop C for intonation. Assuming you’re using the .024-.084 strings. What is your ultimate goal with the guitar ?
I’m not gonna lie, Harley Benton nailed it out of the park with their bass xi clone (the mod version they did with p90’s) I recommend it to ANYONE (double drop A with bare knuckle Pig90’s - amazing)
@@BrendonKPadjasek yea, it is literally RIGHT next to the Squier except it has the P90’s which are my favorite type of pickup for low tuned metal because they naturally give you more low end punch and way less headroom. The headroom thing is crucial when we speak about the clarity and tone that’s hard to get with humbuckers at double drop A. If you strictly use amp sims with a 9 string for example, you’re going to be able to achieve better results because you don’t have to worry about the headroom of an analog tube amps/amps and cabs in general. For $179, it’s easily one of my favorite guitars. Obviously I mod as I go. But that’s the best part. You’re making it a perfect fit to YOU. And what you get starting at $179, it’s pretty easy to mod with all the money you saved.
@@BrendonKPadjasek if you’re doing double drop A (let’s start at the lowest) a thing I learned by playing songs by Joshua Travis is get away with the thinnest strings you can (he plays double drop A on his Kiesel 9 string at .88 at 29”) on my custom Kiesel 9, yea, it’s much more rewarding when you master your picking style and learn to also palm mute well with both hands. With that being said, anything above .90 is going to start messing with your tone. I noted .85’s do great for double drop D and can easily get to double drop B as well with a 30” scale length. It sounds like that’s way too loose but you’d be surprised at how much you can really do and actually get away with not in theory, but in actual use after you do a full setup so it plays the best in your hands after truss rod/string height and intonation. It’s a pain the first time but after that, it’s literally just using the same sets. So .85 for anything down to double drop B and .90 for double drop A on a 30” scale length is definitely my rule of thumb after spending ridiculous amounts on strings ha.
So it is okay for me to use daddario strings on the guitar? Would there be an issue with the scale length lmao, or would I have to buy those fender strings
I believe the stock strings are the same gauge as the d’addario strings. The first 2 songs I wrote on it are with those d’addario .024-.084 strings for drop C and C#. You could also go .024-.090 Ernie balls if you wanna be safe Any lower than drop C I’d strings suggest going with the .100
Not bad at all. I only really showed the top string intonation since that’s the most frequently complained about string. It’s not 100% perfect? But when it’s in tune with the strings played open, it holds quite well. And if they’re sharp or flat, they’re sharp or flat together across the strings. At least how I have it set up
It seems to be that the consensus is that 6 (or maybe 7) string baritones sound tighter in the low end than 8 strings. Am I correct in saying that? I’ve wanted to dabble in low tunings but I was never happy with my 8 string. Wasn’t tuning super low-f standard or drop e but was never happy with it. I gave up thinking it’s just not going to work and I just have to tune up a bit. Ending up selling it. Would love to try it again but kinda leaning towards a baritone 6 or 7 this time around. Just not sure if I’m going to be happy with the chugs.
sounds great and is cheap. I'm just not so confident that I'd be able to do all these fixes to get it sounding as nice as yours(low tech skills and bad ears). i think I'd prefer something working out of the box
Thanks for checking it out! I mean all I really did was reverse the bridge and intonate it for the tuning I wanted (which you’d have to do with any guitar that you’re not playing in standard) But I totally understand that.
Just how the tracking process goes. If I was writing I would be okay with pitch shifting, but I care about the fidelity and don’t want the artifacts. I’ll always choose tuning over pitch shifting. Pitch shifting really messes with the heavy chords I choose to use. It may work for some but I never like the sound of shifting down when I try it
Yeah, the fender website specifies that this is a bass, not a guitar. But it looks like a guitar to me. So if it can tune low, it’s a metal guitar to us haha
It was meant to act as a bass guitar that would be more comfortable to guitarists. 30" scale length, so a short scale bass. Longer than a baritone or 7 string. Intended to be tuned an octave down from the guitar, just like a bass, because it is one. Super cool instrument, especially when used creatively like this.
@PoofPoofification oh yeah it works wonderfully for these. The older version of this ( before 2019 ish) isn’t as good of a guitar as this one. I think they updated a few things
I’ve heard that as well. I’m thinking of switching the bridge pickup to a Bareknuckle impulse but I’m scared to go humbucker. Although Josh suggested the humbucker over the single coil
@@BrendonKPadjasek it's depends what you want from sound, if you want this Loathe sound that you must need single coil but if you want more standard modern sound than you can put Bareknuckle or something like that to sound like HLB, I also try 30' with fishman on subzero and sound amazing.
