Sram Red VS Campagnolo Super Record Wireless | Which Is Best?! 

Same than you. I have just bought a C69!with Campa, and I cannot be happier. I have sram red in other bike, and it’s absolutely worst!

Actually, not anymore. The new SR Wireless cranks don’t come with the CULT bearings like SR EPS. It’s been downgraded to the USB bearings, which were used in the previous generation Record.

feeling similar and i've been solely on campy since the late 80's and have had nearly every speed iteration including Ekar recently. I'm deciding what to use on a custom build i've been waiting on for a year and might just go with sram red which i just put on a gravel/cx bike in RED XPLR form.

But’s still Shimano so who cares? Campy or SRAM all day long.

Ftw! 🤘🏽

I have 11 speed pre & post 2015 Chorus, 12 speed Chorus, Athena, SR eps ,H11 eps and now SR Wireless so obviously I like the thumb shifter especially as they suit my large hands. However I have to admit that the Wireless configuration is more accessible from the drops and hoods with the paddles always at your fingertips.

…and the fact that it was a bit crap.

Some of this is due to a massive increase in wealth at the top end of the curve over the last 50 years. Compare 'high end audio'. Nowadays spending $1,000,000 on an audio system isn't all that uncommon. What's that to a tech billionaire? Just about anyone with a job could still buy the absolute top-end bike if they really wanted. Overall, I believe, things are actually getting cheaper, relatively speaking. Sure, the rich are now vastly wealthy, but the amount of work you have to do to afford say, a TV, is actually diminishing. I think the same is generally true in many if not all sectors. The exception would be housing I think. Anyway, back to bikes: you can build a fantastic bike for bugger all money if you get either a second hand frame or a no brand chinese and throw on some second hand parts. Some of the chinese parts are also starting to get quite good. On the other hand the 'look and feel' of the bike-buying experience has definitely changed over the last 30 years. Back when I started most bike shops had a certain look, and it was basically like a garage. The people also had a definite 'alternative /greenie/ pot-smoker' sort of vibe in many cases. Now shops look like high-end boutiques and the people have become stylish and snobbish bordering on arrogant. This is just part of a general societal shift, a pretty unpleasant one if I'm honest, where-in status and wealth signaling is, if possible, imbued and injected into every good and service. Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing Through the graves the wind is blowing Freedom soon will come Then we'll come from the shadows

I don't think they only did one ride on it, but even if they did and had such a bad experience with the shifting quality, imagine how would it perform after a few years when the components wear out…

I think that is exaggerated. 98% wouldn't be good enough for me. If I ride stop and go traffic, I shift a lot.

It doesn't. I've got over 1000km on prototype WL now ... and it's not missed a shift yet. I have - but the shifting has done exactly what I've asked it do, faultlessly. In context - I don't work for directly Campagnolo - but we do look after their technical training in the UK so yes, there's a strong relationship there. We also teach high end mechanics on SRAM and Shimano so I can compare directly, based on many years of experience (40 and counting) as a mechanic. I've given my feedback to Vicenza.

Exactly , it’s literally marketing budget shills , who don’t want to talk about real life issues …. Campagnolo is longer lasting , doesn’t get recalled like scam , looks better , shifts better , is real life lighter , brakes better , it’s hand made in Italy .

New Force or old one pls?

@@userdjee834 New crank set, chain rings and crank arms shifts like Red now and 100 grams lighter.

@@KenSmith-bv4si Thanks, but did you swap the new Force cassette with Red, or the old Force cassette please? In other words, is the new Force cassette now on par with Red?

@@userdjee834 I switched cassettes for the lighter one(Red). I have an S-Works Aethos so lighter is always better, just like the chain ring & cranks.

@@KenSmith-bv4si Thanks, but I still don't know whether you had the old Force cassette, or the new Force cassette. A fascinating exchange..

"horrible one-button shifting" Yeah, everyone hates simplicity and ease of use.

How is it horrible? I prefer it over Shimano. It is simple, works great, and I don't hit the wrong button when my brain has shut down.

@@bobmclennan1727 Ah yea, the simplicity and ease of use to simultaneously hit two buttons instead of having a dedicated button to shift up or down. We can improve that even further by making a simultaneously left hand, right hand, left big toe and right pinkie toe switch action and slap a SRAM patent on that.

I didn't have a chance to get my hands on the new Super-Record, but from the shots it looks to me as the buttons on them are pretty much unrecognisable by feel. So you have dedicated buttons for upshifting and downshifting for each derailleur, but you won't recognize whether you're going to shift up or down. I'm not a big fan of Sram, but I am going to install the Rival AXS 1x on my CX bike for its ergonomics with the single button, my next road bike is surely gonna have a front mech and with that I'm sold on Shimano Di2.

@@jeskli11 I'm not a fan of the new SR Wireless shifters myself. SR EPS had the best shifter setup with thumb and index finger shifting. I've been riding DA Di2 as well and it's okay with bare hands but I'm not sure how it would work out with gloves in winter time.

Yes, the gloves issue or very cold hands at the end of a hard ride that went wet and cold. The sram button you could hit with your hand only functioning like a paw. Someone above noted how well the EPS "one control, one movement" worked and that's what I've liked about campy since the 90's ergopower. I have sram red 1x xplr on a cx/gravel bike but it's the best of it without whatever supposed front mech issues or dual button shifting. For any 1x bike, you probably can't beat sram axs etap. I have axs on my mtn bikes too and it's been flawless for 1000's of hours.

Now choose again without being an obsessed fanboy. 🤡

One would ask why Campagnolo doesn't innovate ... look at the fanbase I would answer.

When a fanboy doesn't watch the video and don't care about price vs. quality = Marketing works....on some.

Based on ... what? Have you ridden it? Until you have, you are trusting reviewers who generally have an agenda, stated or otherwise.

Campag 👍

Not true... Ofcourse a few personal points are specific to one person but a lot of things are factually true, for example: batterys, shifting, powermeter and simplicity... You cant argue with that