SS United States The majestic ocean liner, built in 1951, carried celebrities and former U.S. Presidents, and still holds the record for the fastest ocean liner ever to cross the Atlantic. www.gadronepilots.com
Wtf hell no its worth more than scrap metal its a piece of U.S history it can be restored scrap metal is everywhere this Ship can not be replaced once its gone its gone
Great images! I watched as they brought her into Philly in 1996, first under the Walt Whitman Bridge and later she was moved to the pier she's at. I was lucky enough to spend a day onboard her in 1998 with her one of her former engineers. Couldn't believe she was in my city and am still shocked she is still there after 27 years!! No matter how much cosmetic decay, she is still beautiful.
This ship is a national treasure and still holds the Blue Riband. It should be restored and made a national landmark and museum ship for all the public to enjoy.
ya how so? i cant think of a worse time to be a true patriot in this country. just the fact that ship sits in that state shows how poorly we think of our history and accomplishments.
Sadly, I think the SS United States has become a lesson in why preserving a ship is not the best way to preserve the history of a ship. The SS United States has now spent decades as a sad, decaying hulk, but during my childhood she was vibrant and proud in the photos I recall. Had she been scrapped when she reached her reasonable end of life, she would have been forever young. Now she will most likely be forever derelict instead.
@@JB-ie9hj nothing happens? then you haven't kept up with what they have & haven't done - they started taking bids to scape it & so much money was being once again donated they "scraped" that Idea & now have enough to pay for her being berthed once again
Nice shot! Too bad they gave up fixing it a while back. There was proposals to make it a hotel, casino, or back to what it was. Save the SS United States!
they haven't given up, they attempted to take bids to scrape it, then received more donations than expected & once again decided to keep it berthed & keep looking for investors
On an high school Navy ROTC trip in the early 1980s I saw this ship at Norfolk, Virginia . She was the biggest ship I'd seen up to that point , and she was impressive ! .....It is sad that she's not restored and ready to sail , but as a museum ship. I wonder what some of the billions we're sending to Ukraine could do for the restoration of this beautiful vessel. 😁👍❤🇺🇸
I remember this ship in Norfolk in the Mid80’s. It was berthed a few piers away from our pier. I used to go to the signal bridge and look at this ship through the big eyes. It was in a little better shape then.
I love this ship but millions have been spent docking her and the rust is horrid now, this ship to me, is beyond saving, and will not sail again, cruise ship companies have bought her then decided it was cost prohibitive....sad to see, but my question is, why are people throwing all this money at her and she is getting worse by the day??? How come a city did not buy her, hell, put her next to the Queen Mary in Long Beach, but even then, to restore all that was tore out would cost Billions, so sad to see, and this right now is a symbol of the REAL UNITED STATES and the sorry shape we are in, so sad...
@@TheBraddles82 that’s the thing, it’s not in salt water, that’s the only reason why its lasted this long, the Queen Mary is struggling to stay afloat because she’s permanently docked in salt water, where as the SS United Stars is in a FRESHWATER river.
It’s sad to see this beautiful grand old lady in this state. It’s hard to imagine it was once the pride of America. She was long, sleek,elegant. Unlike those ugly bulky ships being built now that look like a building.
I sadly see this ship eventually either getting towed to sea and scuttled or scrapped. I remember a few stories of parties being interested in her and wanting to make her a museum ship/floating hotel similar to Queen Mary. But the reoccurring issue seems to be money. From what I've been able to tell. this ship is just a hull. All the exterior is there and doesn't seem to need to much more then a coat of paint. But the interior seems to have been completely stripped out of her and it seems nobody, even other cruise lines want to throw in the money it's going to take to restore the ship.
She has been pretty much gutted. Very little in the way of combustibles left on board to burn or be used to start a fire. But, she can still catch or be set on fire. Just not very easily. There are always things like residual paints, oils and remaining furnishings scattered around which may burn. However, if she does catch fire, she has very little if any capability or equipment left on board to contain or control the fire.
@@americanrambler4972 actually if you do the research you would find it never had any combustibles to start with - every item was designed to be "fireproof" & or contained "asbestos" which already has been removed & all other hazardous materials have long been removed
@@johnjerman3421 I have done a reasonable amount of research on the ship and it’s current state and condition. The original advertisements claim the only wooden thing on the ship was the galley butcher block. But there is no such thing as a fire proof ship. Unless it has sunk. At best you can only call it fire resistant. The ship has deteriorated markedly in the last 10 years. Her biggest preservation benefit has been the location she is moored in. She is not sitting in salt water, but brackish water with a much lower salt content, so corrosion has been much slower. And her aluminum superstructure has also been a great help in preservation. But there has been very minimal if any maintenance on this ship in a number of years. Her deterioration is at a point where it is accelerating markedly.
In the 1950’s, the SS United States was the fastest ocean liner built, and the pride of the American fleet of ocean liners. But she was never the most opulent or luxurious. And she was not the most beautiful liner either. However, she does have very sleek lines and her own graceful unique look. She has great Performance and structurally she was built to a very high standard. (Military specifications were used in her hull and her functional equipment). But unfortunately, that did not make her a profitable ship to operate. I currently do not foresee any situation where she will be restored or refurbished for preservation or used commercially in the near or long term future. The time of her scrapping is approaching. Just to repaint her would cost multi millions of dollars. Who is going to provide that funding? Donations certainly do not and will not.
One of the world's useless billionaires could pay for it's full restoration with just their pocket change. It just needs to attract the attention of someone like Elon Musk or Richard Branson.
Being such a gas guzzler brought her down. The government did not have much interest in supporting a reserve troop ship of such size anymore and transatlantic passenger traffic was at an all time low, so it was uneconomical to keep fueling her. Restoring this ship to full seaworthy condition with the original machinery would cost all the money in the world, but I'm sure if Cunard and QM2 can turn a profit on the North-Atlantic run and part-time cruising, the United States could do it too. However even in her current state the SS US is a prime example of nautical engineering, remaining afloat in such disrepair for decades.
I really, truly hate to say this, but it's a white elephant if ever there was one. It's time has come and gone. Better to scrap it and put it out of its misery.
If the queen marry was restored and turned into a museum why can’t the SS United States as well Ik the owners of dat ship are trying to restore her with help from donations if you have money you can help make a difference 🤷🏼 if we don’t do something soon the rust gonna eat away the haul of the ship and it might just sink where it is rn🤦🏼
Because, the QUEEN MARY, was never GUTTED. Like this ship. This ships interiors are COMPLETELY GONE. She is just an empty shell. Queen Mary is stil intact. Google it, look at the videos, then look at the videos of the inside of this ship.
@@johnfranklin5277 Ik that bruh the pont is the uk has had some of the greatest Ocean liners in history like the Olympic , the Mauritania and so many great ships the United States of America hasn’t had as many Great ocean liners like the UK and Europe we have had small ships or even old ships from the Europe that we just refreshed and put a different name on it what was like the two greatest Ocean liners we built and had ? ss America and ss United States and you know what happened to ss America gone what’s of it is the shadow of the ship in that beach or whatever that is how old is this ship? Really old idc if it doesn’t have itz interior if the queen could get to Survival and that ship has roots to the Olympic and the Mauritania and it isn’t even that special there has been alot of world’s greatest ships that actually deserved to be saved and they aren’t here rn the rms Olympic a true gem more worthy to be here then the queen Mary 👀🙁 we could have been walking in old reliable a ship nearly identical to titanic instead we got a ship that is only here because the Royal family actually put some of there money into it basically 😒😒
Because it would cost over a billion dollars. You see kid, people don't spend a billion dollars for nostalgia. To put that in perspective, that's what it costs to build a 2 million square foot hospital, an 80,000 seat NFL stadium, or a 70 story skyscraper in New York. And remember, the Queen Mary hotel is a business failure of massive proportions that sucks tens of millions of dollars from taxpayers in the city of Long Beach because it is unable to turn a profit.
Why don't you invest, to make it a floating Museum and Hotel in order to put it for example on the Hudson river along a quay overlooking Big Apple, like the RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 in Dubai or the Portuguese Liner Funchal in progress of rehabilitation for becoming ?! By raising international funds, on the basis of sponsorship to partially reduce the cost of such an operation. It's the last of your Cruise Liner of the great Era of ship traveling , don't do like us French , who left the Cruise liner France to be scrapped ... Look at the design she has, despite its decrepit paint and the rust eating away , she's still unbelievable magnificent ,a beautiful and great lady, even today. Those who love ships and particularly Ocean Liners, the real ones, those who were still on a human scale; cannot remain insensitive to so much beauty. P.S : Today , they are only vulgar floating buildings with an unremarkable and clumsy design , they have nothing of desirability , they are banal to die and all look alike... It's called Progress but ... Everything is relative
It should be scrapped. It should’ve been scrapped 20 years ago. It’s just left to rust away. There was never any fine fittings in it. It looked like an office park all with fluorescent lighting and wall to wall carpet. It WAS NOT the Normandie…….let’s put it that way. Philadelphia has a habit of letting things rot away. Whitemarsh Hall comes to mind.
i am shocked by this current state of affairs. huge palaces are built but it is not possible to revive a monument to experience historical travel ! it's strange. consider the fame around the titanic. how this is missed. would this stand there now also if she would not have sunk ?
I wish a White House-accredited journalist asked the President during a press conference what he thinks about the whole situation. And I do not necessarily mean the current president, but any president. It is a disgrace which should be dealt with accirdingly.
Instead of pumping endless money into loving Ukrainean friends , fraction of these cash could help bring this amazing vessel back to any use. But it seems nobody there cares , all of you are loving Ukraineans now.
Good morning and Happy New Year. I HAVE SOME VERY VERY BAD NEWS. PLEASE READ!! 😢😢 Court date set for Tuesday January 16th at 8 am Philadelphia courthouse. Please go there and help😢😢.. The SS United States is facing serious and immediate threats. The vessel’s landlord, Penn Warehousing, doubled the ship’s rent during the coronavirus pandemic and has sued the Conservancy, demanding back rent and the removal of the ship from the pier. The Conservancy has been unable to secure an alternative berth, and a trial is scheduled in mid-January. An unfavorable judgment would devastate the Conservancy and likely compel us to relinquish control of the vessel. The Conservancy’s board is now evaluating various contingencies on a very tight and demanding schedule. If Penn Warehousing wins a judgment against the Conservancy, the SS United States may have to be scrapped.
Disgraceful. A national embarrassment. With the vast resources of the US Government this ship never should he been allowed to deteriorate to this condition.
