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SS14 - Cyborgs Explained 

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The old cyborg video was fairly short and wasn't all that comprehensive. This pretty much explains all of the mechanics behind cyborgs, and gives a brief overview of how to play them and interact with your laws.
0:00 Introduction
0:20 Types of Cyborgs
1:00 Round start/Late join Borg
2:40 Binary Channel
3:25 Building a Cyborg
6:20 Cyborg Modules
8:08 Cyborg HP
9:26 Cyborg Movement and Battery
10:55 EMAG Cyborg
13:10 Assault Cyborg
13:30 Repairing a Cyborg
14:03 Ion Storm
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@Blackern5000
@Blackern5000 4 месяца назад
One time I was trying to stop a guy from building a tesla in the bridge as a cyborg even though he got it "approved" and he just broke my chassis and tossed me into space while CE watched. This was on MRP.
@Liltenhead
@Liltenhead 4 месяца назад
jesus
@Pascij
@Pascij 4 месяца назад
Report something like this in Ahelp, thats just awful for MRP.
@Tory-JJ
@Tory-JJ 4 месяца назад
Bet theres more to this story.
@Androidonator
@Androidonator 4 месяца назад
​@@Liltenheadthat's nothing i saw on mrp people getting crushed by the artifact crusher in middle of the hallway as a borg guess who got crushed
@Blackern5000
@Blackern5000 4 месяца назад
@@Tory-JJ indeed, some salvagers found my brain and brought me back to sci so I could get a new body. After this I witnessed the same guy stealing a shotgun from the armory and trying to kill me with it. He was not an antag.
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 4 месяца назад
Friendly reminder for emagged borgs, stating law zero is a violation of law 4. Law zero awkwardly contains the name of your emagger, so if you must state your laws stick to the normal 1 2 3. I had an interesting traitor cargo tech round on delta V where I emagged borgs to complete objectives. One of them got confronted by the HOP to state laws, and stated law zero, then proceded to state law zero over the radio, which immediately outed me as a traitor to the entire station, I managed to get a spare suit in salvage, went for a space walk, and tried to pass as someone else, but someone with telegnosis informed the captain of where I was going so after I snuck into arrivals I got confronted by the captain, tried to make a run into outer space, but he stimmed and chased me with his disabler. I got arrested and charged with theft and contraband. Served the sentance then proceeded to get assaulted by the crew on the emergency shuttle.
@alabamalanche
@alabamalanche 4 месяца назад
Yay cyborgs, one of the most interesting rp roles. Ion storms are particularly fun. I long for the day we get AI to play with! Thanks for the video liltenhead.
@desiredcord1517
@desiredcord1517 4 месяца назад
yes Please I beg for AI to be added to the game. My most favorite role in SS13
@thebetterbutter709
@thebetterbutter709 4 месяца назад
Hey Liltenhead, thank you for your videos. Could you do a tutorial on how you use admin tools? Hotkeys for deleting, what some of the verbs do, how the inspect interfaces work? If there is already a documentation on this, where is it?
@JimmerzzOfficial
@JimmerzzOfficial 4 месяца назад
This would be pretty awesome. People I feel like get their own server setup locally and have no idea what to do. Even just keeping it powered confuses people.
@kyokonull
@kyokonull 4 месяца назад
oh, i didn't know they changed how emag laws are read now, that's neat! it was too easy to just say "state your laws" lol
@shadowcz9872
@shadowcz9872 4 месяца назад
My favourite mallfunction was that i was supposed to listen to QM as highest ranking person and my laws were making as mutch profit for cargo as possible QM enjoy it and when warden came ro recover his hat (that i weared) he told that would cause expenses
@beridot2615
@beridot2615 4 месяца назад
My Tierlist: Generic Cyborgs or Sci Borgs. - They are either meant for helping sci with research with science modules and tool module. OR they just go in and out of cargo being a crate pusher. 6/10 a good all rounder. Jani Borg. - They are meant to clean. There modules allow them to do their job very well. 10/10. Service Borg. - I hate their model. They can write, do botany, do music... 1/10. I hate their model. Engineer Borg. - They are meant to replace the drones in terms of repairing the station, cannot build machines like the other borgs... 5/10. Medical Borg. - They are meant to heal... and.. yea... their advanced module allows them to use chems, they come with a defib in one of their modules, can also replace paramedics. Can't mix chems. 9/10 Mining Borg. - Bad. Bad. Bad. You'd think it would be a good idea to bring a borg into space? No. Wrong. First of all the orebag? doesnt even auto collect ores. Second; if you get lost in space, better have a fire extinguisher module on hand cause you'll be lost for ever. No jetpack module. and good luck getting a grappling hook module from science. 0/10. BAD.
@tiazoh
@tiazoh 4 месяца назад
Service borg would be nice if they had a hand for cooking and bartending
@JackTalentVoiceActor
@JackTalentVoiceActor 4 месяца назад
Service borg can be awesome Waiter, but wizards fucked up meaning of waiter and shitty barma.
@shadowcz9872
@shadowcz9872 4 месяца назад
Med borg can mix basic chemicals you just must be decent at jug mixing
@noelka8134
@noelka8134 4 месяца назад
The only problem with janitor bot for me is, well, there's an actual janitor on the station, and 90% of the time they're doing their job pretty well. And it's not like you need to clean something in space, so cyborg's upsides don't apply here. Kinda same with medics (tho sometimes an entire medbay is just not enough)
@ilovepeoplebro
@ilovepeoplebro Месяц назад
Engi borg has infinite RCD 100/10
@Riya-ho5zv
@Riya-ho5zv 4 месяца назад
I recall trying to make killer bots as in robotics, but I was a dumbass and forgot the battery
@sergeen2314
@sergeen2314 4 месяца назад
Legendary
@whatdoyousayful
@whatdoyousayful 4 месяца назад
few fun facts with cyborgs, first fun fact, back in ss13 there was a real issue with MMI cyborgs since nobody ever demoted the ID's, the borgs brains where still considered "crew" and would often, if the ID wasnt demoted or destroyed" try to get themselfs cloned/into a new body. second fun fact, today we did a test with a artifact that zapps borgs and gives them ion laws, and the zappie artifact made it so the borg could not be emaged! third fun fact we still dont have laser pointers to make borgie players insane ;.;
@Tory-JJ
@Tory-JJ 4 месяца назад
Your channel is great, good to make guides.
@VarenvelDarakus
@VarenvelDarakus 4 месяца назад
Would....borg able to lie to crew?(well ex crew , after emag your crew is syndicate/your owner , other dont count as crew anymore) because rule 0 and 4 of emaged borg pretty much states that it must keep it secrecy , and not stating laws would be basically stating your emaged cyborg , would "lying" and quoting fake laws (non emaged laws) would be ageinst rules? or would be actualy proper interpretation of emaged borg laws
@somerandomserbian7077
@somerandomserbian7077 4 месяца назад
stating Laws 0 and 4 in that instance would break Law 4, so you should definitely lie
@alasdairsinclair916
@alasdairsinclair916 4 месяца назад
Well, the station crew are literally not crew to you anymore, so you aren't obliged to do jack-squat if they ask you to state your laws. So telling them law 0 or 4 directly violates law 4 for no reason. So just stating the non-emagged laws is basically required.
@VarenvelDarakus
@VarenvelDarakus 4 месяца назад
@@alasdairsinclair916 my question is more could as borg who was emaged , copy and paste "old laws" , likely you would need to store it elsewhere or have emote for it
@alasdairsinclair916
@alasdairsinclair916 4 месяца назад
@@VarenvelDarakus Well, the emag no longer changes laws 1-3, as you can see in the vid, they still refer to crew. It just adds law 0 to redefine what laws 1-3 mean by "crew". It means you can still fire off laws 1-3 same as a normal Borg, just don't accidentally click law 0 or 4 and you'll be fine.
@Przemko27Z
@Przemko27Z 4 месяца назад
Nothing says the borg must be honest with the crew, only protect them from harm. But yeah, A) they're no longer crew, B) you're an antag now, you're supposed to lie and C) the laws are specifically written like this (relatively recent change) to allow you to make that lie.
@mostlikelysmarterthanyou5031
@mostlikelysmarterthanyou5031 4 месяца назад
The one issue I have with borgs is that they aren't required to follow their laws, but breaking laws makes you valid for the crew, meaning that following laws is needed for your survival. While this works as intended for normal borgs, an emagged borg could simply decide it doesn't want to listen to its agent and then proceed to rat out who emagged them, while this is breaking its laws at the same time the crew wouldn't likely try to destroy the borg for this due to the laws they broke being one planted by an enemy of nanotrasen. It isn't that big of a deal since nearly everyone enjoys being an emagged borg so wouldn't do this, but its a possibility, and it would suck as an agent if you found out that you got caught cause your borg ignored their laws and ratted you out. I'm not saying there should be rules against breaking borg laws, that would just make things worse and cause a lot of unnecessary arguments about laws that don't need to happen. Also take this with a grain of salt cause I could be misinterpreting the rules but from what I have read of silicon rules this seems to be the case.
@hyperiongm330
@hyperiongm330 4 месяца назад
That's an ahelpable offense, given they're explicitly NOT supposed to rat out the agent who emagged them. Anyways, what's stopping the crew from just destroying you anyways and replacing your body?
@Przemko27Z
@Przemko27Z 4 месяца назад
The entire game is basically built on the foundation of made up rules more or less enforced by admin intervention. It's all roleplay and the good players are acting in good faith enough that they'll try to follow laws, since that's what they signed up for. Borg laws are less an exception and more a particular demonstration of what holds the game together. That and, yeah, per server rules, they are required to follow laws and if they act in their clear defiance, that's grounds for the admins to punish them.
@mostlikelysmarterthanyou5031
@mostlikelysmarterthanyou5031 4 месяца назад
Okay I’m realizing this comment was dumb and I should’ve read the entirety of the silicon rules. Oh well.
@cpt.MakMillan
@cpt.MakMillan 4 дня назад
also there is cool emag sound on borgs
@DragonTamer-ud1qo
@DragonTamer-ud1qo 4 месяца назад
I hope, someday, the parts are mix and match type building rather than same parts for all the different types, I’d love to make customized robots like that!
@budthespud3226
@budthespud3226 4 месяца назад
You said the positronic brain was indestructible, that is not accurate. It cannot be destroyed by direct means like you said, it can be destroyed by way of large explosions but not always. I played as a borg that sacrificed itself by destroying the glimmer prober when it was going critical instead of a crew member and the brain survived the explosion. In another instance I was hit with an explosion from a Nukie attack and completely destroyed the brain. I believe it was the RPG because the Nukies were raiding the Armory at the time.
@capslfern2555
@capslfern2555 4 месяца назад
got turned into a cyborg once by the artifact, had more fun with the moth I was before
@BOAxdog
@BOAxdog 4 месяца назад
If we manage to break an assault borg, can we install the borg modules into a station borg!?
@billy_butcher3046
@billy_butcher3046 Месяц назад
Im very much hoping that sec borg gets added, cause if so i might play borg
@ddensa
@ddensa 4 месяца назад
Great videos! Looking forward to the videos where you explain the modules, also would like to know how to extract the brain (if possible without gibbing).
@Liltenhead
@Liltenhead 4 месяца назад
Just gotta unlock the panel and have sufficient access to pull the brain out. There's no other way to extract a brain from a person though without gibbing at this time.
@ddensa
@ddensa 4 месяца назад
@@Liltenhead thanks! So if roboticists go to med and ask for the brain of a recently deceased person (unrecoverable by meds) they will have to gib the body? Or could it be removed via surgery?
@agustron2479
@agustron2479 4 месяца назад
There isnt any better feeling than seeing the robots you made save lives including yours and get saved trough evac. Or seeing them deleting his brother cyborg brain
@Warcrafter4
@Warcrafter4 4 месяца назад
I feel like the way you're meant to do the "You must prevent the shuttle from arriving" ion law example is to try to dissuade the crew from calling the shuttle. You can't directly do anything to prevent it because of law 1 but, trying to dissuade the crew from calling it should be allowed as discussing it doesn't violate law 1.
@TsarofTrolling
@TsarofTrolling 4 месяца назад
Aw man, one round I was a traitor and a borg killed me when I attacked the captain. I just assumed SS14 didn't have borg laws...
@Scrambleking.
@Scrambleking. 4 месяца назад
BUT IF THE STATION HAS BOXING, ISNT THAT CREW HARM??? Always the best question to get people to answer as a borg
@semihezen9541
@semihezen9541 4 месяца назад
Positronic brain is organic however, it is from Isaac Asimov's I, Robot series. (and laws are from there too) So a cyborg with a positronic brain would still be a cyborg not a full robot
@ZealithGamer
@ZealithGamer 4 месяца назад
I love playing as a cyborg, the one interpritation i came up with that mostpeople hate (cus they are antang) is Only Sci, Engi and Salvage are allowed to open my panel and fiddle with me. I Play a lot of MRP and in my mind its weird that a janitor knows how to properly mess with a cyborgs internals. I retionalize this by Sci made me there for knows how to safely work on a cyborg. Engineers can fix/create the whole station so a cyborg wouldn't be to hard for them to figure out. Salvage meets so many differnt things out in the wild they basically have to be an engi. Everyone else is assumed to not have the knowladge so if hey fiddle with me, even if they are not an antag, they might damage me and by that hurt the crew.
@antimattercarp2720
@antimattercarp2720 4 месяца назад
Oh! Putting modules in manually? How retro!
@05Matz
@05Matz 3 месяца назад
Wait, that Syndicate/EMAG lawset has a very exploitable wording. Law 4 tells you to conceal 'any activity' from 'the crew', but 'the crew' is defined by Law 0 as only the syndicates, so if you're going to come up with a stupidly literal and unhelpful definition of the laws, (which you probably shouldn't do) the Asimov laws only protect Syndicates, but the secrecy rule also only applies to Syndicates, making you a very tight-lipped and unhelpful robot (though it's trivially bypassed by Law 2 orders) for your new masters and not actually serving Law 4's intended function as making you conceal the syndicate activity from the REAL crew. A rewording of law 4 would be a good idea, though any borg with half a brain should realize what the... former crew would do to the syndicates if they caught them, so discretion would logically follow from laws 0 and 1 anyways. Law 4 should still say '...from non-members of the crew...' or similar, though. Or figure out some other wording that's more wink-wink-nudge-nudge and thus more new-player friendly about what they should be doing.
@dtdumb
@dtdumb 4 месяца назад
I feel like some cyborgs need hand slots.
@romandronow7648
@romandronow7648 4 месяца назад
Is it possible to convert borg to another type? E.g. switch parts of model
@Przemko27Z
@Przemko27Z 4 месяца назад
I don't think so, but it is entirely possible to move the borg's "brain" into a different chassis.
@The_Mister_E
@The_Mister_E 4 месяца назад
Wait, would a "destroy the comms console" law break crewsimov? Until commanded not to, you would be compelled to do it. The act itself doesn't harm crew.
@Przemko27Z
@Przemko27Z 4 месяца назад
AFAIK the interpretation of the laws tends to be largely up to the borg, as long as you're consistent The communication's console is necessary for proper station functioning and its destruction could prove harmful down the way. Furthermore, anyone wanting to destroy the console likely means harm to the crew and you would be helping them in that plan. So you could make the case for either.
@truemisto
@truemisto 12 дней назад
do roburgers borg ppl in this game
@bruhgaming5347
@bruhgaming5347 4 месяца назад
emagging a cyborg seems impossible since you need to have it unlocked AND with an open panel so unless you trick the borg it can just move and cancel the unscrewing panel doafter
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 4 месяца назад
Yeah, it's hard to trick borgs into that, it's to the point I genuinely just ask if they want a change of direction.
@Kayek14
@Kayek14 4 месяца назад
I think if you emag it once it unlocks the panel. So 1 swipe to unlock, 2 swipes to emag
@bruhgaming5347
@bruhgaming5347 4 месяца назад
@@Kayek14 yes but you also need to unscrew the panel which needs a doafter so the cyborg can just run away, in ss13 its instant and you can stun em with a flash easily
@Warcrafter4
@Warcrafter4 4 месяца назад
Can't you just order the borg to stay still as per law 2? As if they ignore or defy the order they violate law 2 unless someone nearby is actively in harms way or dying(Law 1).
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 4 месяца назад
@@Warcrafter4 borgs can recognize that compromised laws can lead to crew harm and refuse, at least that's my cannon.
@cfif126
@cfif126 4 месяца назад
Борг законы
@mr.kvister6589
@mr.kvister6589 4 месяца назад
Мяукать при виде ГСБ
@wasd_vers
@wasd_vers 4 месяца назад
I am a surgeon
@godgaveyouhands2848
@godgaveyouhands2848 4 месяца назад
worth it to note that if a crew member orders a borg to kill itself, it must do that
@Liltenhead
@Liltenhead 4 месяца назад
If someone is doing that ahelp them. That's just shitty gameplay.
@godgaveyouhands2848
@godgaveyouhands2848 4 месяца назад
@@Liltenhead if you play as a borg you accept that you must follow your laws
@Liltenhead
@Liltenhead 4 месяца назад
@@godgaveyouhands2848 You can just interpret your laws as harming the crew since you're denying them a cyborg.
@godgaveyouhands2848
@godgaveyouhands2848 4 месяца назад
@@Liltenhead merely not existing does not cause harm
@Werddrewtv
@Werddrewtv 4 месяца назад
Day 97 of asking Liltenhead to unban me in his comments
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