That wood demonstration was the empirical example I needed. I'm totally fascinated now. My next kit will be a DW no doubt. Perfect example of the science. Anyone who says "it's just wood" is insane.
@09areFish Great question! Right in the middle actually. The HVX stands for Horizontal Vertical and an X shell mixture. This means it is combining all 3 of these grain patterns that are offered from the Collectors series bringing a natural medium tone with the high and low tones mixed in to accomplish this particular sound for the Performance Series.
We appreciate your 2 cents! With the economy slowing with the Social Media coming up at the same time this has been the best we could do get out to the public. We didn't even have a You-Tube channel until a couple of years back. Showing video with audio has been very fulfilling in our customers understanding the functionality of our hardware and the sonic qualities of our drums. While catalogs are a pure of our dealers handing you a book of high quality pics we are choosing to keep our...
Sorry for any confusion! The SSC is mainly for Maple shell types only. We have found the most success with different grain orientations with Maple shells. Hope this helps!
Great to hear your feedback! Thanks so much for choosing DW and the SSC technology. John Good is the master of making plies into different notes you are experiencing that first hand. :)
@blackwash That is a correct! The SSC is designed to give a lower toned kit and to help bring out the lower notes in the shell. You can tune up an X shell close to a mid range tuning and tune a standard shell down to a medium low range. Our highest pitched shells would be our Jazz series. All in all you got the idea though. :)
The "short" plies are the horizontal plies which have been the standard for drum making from the beginning. The "vertical" plies have a lower tone to them. We mix and match these plies to get out Specialized Shell Configuration.
As for right now we do have a limited edition Pacific snare that comes in a Bubinga/Maple/Bubinga ply configuration. This is the first shell we have ever made for DW or PDP with actual Bubinga plies in it. We are happy with the woods we have worked with so far but we do appreciate your suggestion. We'll see how the PDP snare goes and we'll go from there. :)
@daniele91drummer custom SSC is 100% FREE for any Collector's Series kit. That's right, the price difference is NONE as compared to standard maple. We're very proud of this, and feel this shell technology is something every drummer should have.
This vid makes me want to use DW Drums. I think many drummers disregard the fact that grain orientation really affects the note, timbre, quality, and especially the character of the sound. I love this video. John Good is such a smarty!
It is amazing how much knowledge is in a DW drum. I always had a hard time tuning my kit and I've never thought about the important factors that build a great drum sound. Great video!
What we are trying to convey to you is that the note of the shell can be controlled by the grain pattern of the plies. We can control this primaryily with Maple shells but we have moved into other wood types for plies also for different sounds. Hope this makes sense! We have not printed catalogs for a couple of years now. We are trying to keep everything to the website and social media outlets for all info.
@MrAnthonysato Thanks so much for your insight! They are both great guys with so many genius ideas. They both also share a very strong work ethic towards perfection. The best thing is they enjoy it and fun along the way! Great to hear that you enjoyed the Super Solid video. I'll make sure to pass that along to the guy responsible for putting that vid together.
@MrAnthonysato Hmmm. Very interesting post. I know we can both agree that John Good knows what he is talking about. His knowledge is immense and he is a super nice, understanding guy to boot. Maybe the RMV rep doesn't think Neil and John aren't a good source of shell talk? Oh well I guess :).
@darthjoey13 SSC definitely lowers the fundamental pitch of the shell. It has little effect on sustain. If you like naturally higher pitched drums, horizontal grain (maple) all the way is best. You might also consider our Jazz series. Despite the name, they are for more than just jazz, but the shells love tighter tunings. Only other way to get maple naturally higher would be to add more plies (more shell tension).
Have you seen our Candy Land III video yet? We didn't get birch for this video but it does have pretty much everything else. We will definitely note your suggestion for the next video for this series. ://dwdr(dot)ms/HL4WQy
websites as current as possible with new finishes and features for Performance and PDP. Feel free to look further into the Concept Series and Performance Series on the links below if you have not already. Thanks so much for your feedback! dwdrums(dot)com/drums/performance/ pacificdrums(dot)com/drums/concept/
I understand that you are very active on social medias (here on RU-vid, most of all) and it's very appreciated, but I think catalog would just reach out to so much more people. Especially with the PDPs and the DW Performance Series. They are great drums, at a much more affordable price, so people who think as DW as the out-of-reach high end drums might get interested as well. Free catalogs in drum shops or various music shops surely must give some mad exposure, no? Just my 2 cents.
i don't know if you've ever got this question or not, but i've always wondered, with DW being such an innovative company, have you ever used or thought about using bubinga shells for a kit. Not that i really know what i'm talking about, John Good is the best at what he's doing and definately knows a thing or two about drums. It's just a question i've kind of always had, and i was just wondering
Sounds like a nice set up you have in mind. :) We do not do any pricing or ordering direct from our factory unfortunately. Please contact your local authorized DW drums dealer for pricing and ordering info. Please choose a finish type also because we can tell that will affect the price through your dealer. ://dwdr(dot)ms/v7qPFu
Yo D.Dub! So I gather that you should get the type of shell that suits how you want to tune each drum. For example, maybe a Standard shell for a 13" tom if you wanna tune it sort of high and maybe an X or VLX for a floor tom if you like to tune it quite low. Would you say this is the idea? Would it be not optimal to get, say, a 13" X tom if you plan to tune it high/tight?
So does it lower the pitch, or just resonate stronger? Because I like high, resonant drums. Not necessarily tighter tuned, but higher in pitch. So I should go for horizontal grain all the way?
Dear DrumWorkshop I have a question. If you build a kit in the kitbuilder at the site, how do you specify the tipe of grain? for example if I want my 8 and 10 toms to be vlx and my floor toms x shells. how do i order them?
I'm still new to all this but if I understand correctly one should build a kit based upon different types of plies? Tried to get a DW catalog but no one seems to have one.
@DrumWorkshopInc If i order a custom kit (not in exotic finish, just something like satin oil or laquer) with SSC technology what's the difference talking about price between that SSC kit and a standard-maple custom kit? Not such a big difference? Big difference? Very big difference? Twice or more than a regular maple drum kit? I want to order a SSC kit but i have to know if i can buy it now.. i've just bought a new Edge snare, i gotta wait a little bit :)
+CÁSSIO CARLOTTO You can order any of the shell configurations that we offer. Here is a link with information so that you can make an informed decision. 👍 www.dwdrums.com/drums/collectors/shells.asp
So the construction of the standard shells goes Long Short Long Short... and the construction of the VLT shells goes Long Vertical Long Vertical.... I don't understand the difference between Short grain and Vertical grain. How do you orient the grain 90 degrees without it being the same as Vertical grain?