The Order of Wrath and the St Louis Legion of Honor gather at the St Louis Renaissance Festival for some controlled violence Team links: / stl.legionofhonor / orderofwrath My links: / stenjamesfar / stenjamesfar
Funny enough, if you watch the Alpha footage of For Honor from wayyy back when, it actually looks strikingly similar to this. I love the game enough to have gone Top 200 for a bit, but I think I would've loved that even more. You should look it up if you haven't seen it
@@KillYour_TV Even sharp or simply metal swords would hurt here like a lot, although it wouldnt pierce through the steel armor, theres a chance it could find a way in few places where armor is not, which could result in very bloody scene. And using hammers... well, that wouldnt end up either, same result, but less blood I'd guess.
@@ArchlordZer0 my point was metal clashing combat is much cooler and brutal than unrealistic movie battles where people can stab and slash through armor like butter
God I remember watching these guys that day. I'm a HEMA geek so it was so cool to see a more realistic, aggressive fight from guys wearing real deal armor. So awesome.
@Davek_89666 I will say Ive seen other schools in longsword do strikes that appear to not be pulled at all. Felt one on me when attending a retreat and it wasnt too pleasant. For my school we do pull our strikes out of safety for our sparring buddies but it also depends on the kit you have. Pulling strikes is also a good idea for just better control in general though.
These fights are far more cooler and these than movie fights. I believe this does a better job of showing how brutal and resourceful warriors are, as they're not just striking with weapons, they're making use of their shields and even their bare hands. (Apologies, I am not well versed in medieval combat and shouldn't of made the comparison. I was just intrigued by the way they fight, I haven't seen any movie or video game utilise actions like that)
its also not how trained armored folk really fought. these arent people trained like people who could afford armor in the past. real, trained fights are even better.
its quite unrealistic to be honest, wressling was part of fighing but not like this. figing was allways roupe fighting, wresseling sombody to the ground has a high chance of getting hit very hard in the head with a polearm from his comerads.
The stamina requirement is huge. At practice we strike a target nonstop for a specific amount of time and just 60 seconds is rough. When you put on padding and armor then it gets exponentially harder. Strength is needed to ensure you can still hit hard and fast even with the extra weight. The camera work is just me trying to get at an angle where fighters are facing each other (they move around a lot, so one fighter will block the view of the other unless I constantly move with them)
I was wondering if maybe they should do more strength training. The weight of the Armour is making them top heavy and in reality they really need bigger leg muscles. Just seemed like some would get knocked down more easier then others. That one huge dude seemed to have a major advantage. His size powers that Armour like that. Don't skip leg day.
@@timothyhines6220 only $30? thats good quality audio, for a bargain. ye the camera is great and is clear. The audio is great, its got depth and range, really makes those kinetic hits with the polearms sound fantastic.
I saw my first fight not long ago. Giant hulking men being thrown to the ground, falling, slipping, flipping, crashing and flying over hay bales with sword or axe in hand. It was intense.
Ive seen a bunch of full steel combat vids watching the duels and all out brawls and just wanted to say that 2:01 is kinda just the perfect example of the sportsmanship/entertainment value the sport has lmao. Went from *"Aw you guys SUCK"* to "oh ive been (?)"
@@timothyhines6220 that’s so cool!! Do you have any videos or books that you suggest that talks about this? This sounds like great character material and I wanna learn more about it
@@frenchfries1819 My understanding is that our former captain was in the Free Company of the White Stag. They would explain medieval tactics and provide demonstrations (how pirates would board a ship, how people would fight with spear/sword/dagger/axe/polearm/mace/bow, how a phalanx works, etc). I get all of my info from them. They disbanded last year and formed a new group called the Band of Iron Lions. You can contact them on their FB page to find out where they source their info: facebook.com/BandOfIronLions
@@frenchfries1819 Hi, you can search for the channel Pursuing the Knightly Arts. It's a small channel but have a ton of documentation about actual knight fighting. They show videos of grappling techniques from historical treatise and do duels with it! They also include thrusts strikes. (which is not a thing in the type of combat shown in this video)
I’m sure there’s a lot of rules and technique, but I feel like I could really fuck someone up in this. I played football for years with full gear and serious aggression. Looks like fun! 🤘🏼😆
Being a SCAdian I would be interested in how the rules are handled for matches. 16 gauge steel min. I assume? I do appreciate what appears to be a Sumo kind of respect to being taken off your feet. I have many questions :)
The rules differ depending on the host of the event (in this case it was the St Louis Legion of Honor). I was setting up camera gear, so I missed the meeting to go over what was and was not allowed. I expect they went with no gap shots, no neck shots, and no strikes to the back of the knee. Three points of contact with the ground count as a down. It was a demonstration event rather than a competitive event, so I don't think they had any special regulations on armor and weapons (some places will check the weight/dimensions of weapons and the historical accuracy of gear)
This goes to show how effective armor would be and how your best bet would be to pin them somewhat and then stabbing under the arm or in the neck or if you didn’t have a closed helmet right in the face. Also using your shield as a blunt force weapon also highly effective
the problem is , one hit and you're out there's no wrestling after a hit xd,this is not that practical but it gives experience as to what to expect in a sword fight,usually the one who cuts first wins or both go down mean they both cut or stab each other the same time, not another choice.
It depends on the person and if they will use it in a tournament setting. This page has the requirements for armor and weapons: hmbia.info/rules-and-regulations/
Lol these full contact fights are fun to watch but I see a lot of people in the comments saying how it's realistic... this is by no means a realistic representation of medieval warfare. There's no skill at arms, its just blind swinging, hugging, and pushing people over. The armour used by these guys (in battle of the nations style) is also frequently made of titanium instead of steel, and the padding is packed right out in order to soften what looks like really painful blows, but in reality aren't. The person who said it's armoured wrestling is spot on.
