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Steel frame for sure, only reason I can see for a second barrel is if you want a comp’d barrel and a non-comp’d barrel as the comp they use is supposed to be installed by them (IIRC). Serrations are fine for a competition pistol, for a duty gun, just another point of entry for dirt or whatever other debris can get in there. Trigger is whatever, I’d probably opt for the lighter trigger but not a necessity. Safariland and others are making holsters for the larger optics….if you can figure out how to order anything from Safariland.
Ben, I think the steel frame is the most common. Personally would not do the trigger job, slide serrations or the threaded barrel... if this pistol is so good then shoot it entirely stock with a red dot and see how it holds up.
Just marketing doing marketing as less expensive options are entering the market. Instead of pursuing innovation, they are increasing the price of their products to make them seem more premium while nothing changes with the product itself. Staccato has less and less to differentiate itself from the competition these days. $4k gets you into semi-custom hand fitted guns like the alchemy hi cap..
My 2¢: -I don’t like the X cuts -I prefer the duty trigger -Aluminum would be lighter for carry, steel should in theory remain tighter, longer. I prefer the steel for longevity. -The DLC barrel is nice; cleans easy, abrasion resistant, lower frictional coefficient. -you already have an extra barrel in the XC. Spend that $ on recoil springs. -Strong side only safety. -ditch the fiber optic for a solid front post. Have always appreciated your content, this staccato talk is more “confirmation bias” and entertaining than it is educational, but I dig it. Great channel.
The reason they offer an additional barrel at purchase is because they require you to send the gun back to them to get a new barrel fitted to your gun.
My P19 Heritage Limited edition (4.15”) is by far my favorite pistol I own. Breaking it down and cleaning it every few outings isn’t a big deal. ACRO P2, x300, red dirt trigger. Buy them locally with a pretty good discount
@@Osprey1994idk if you’re just commenting to see your self type or just dense? Midwest shoot center is a rather large retailer in this area. They are a Stsccato dealer. They have a number of membership options including retail membership. My P19 Heritage LE 4.15” sticker price was 2999$. My retail membership took it down to 2540. My P was 2090. The only guns I need to entertain ordering online are custom.. I was 1 of the first few to have a Watchtower Apache Pew view.. and didn’t have to order it 😂
The only reason I can see adding the additional barrel would be if you plan to port it and want to switch between the two. The barrel is about $500 or so if you do it later. IIRC.
3:43 it makes sense if you want to take her on with another caliber, infinity has this interchangeable breach face system ,it would match with the second barrel you order that could be for any caliber you wish it to be. In my case I got a 10mm barrel.
@@coltonwatson4907 for actual duty I probably wouldn’t just bc of possible debris or something getting in. But for him for use as a training tool, why not? They probably offer a better grip able surface over the standard, lighten the slide and maybe help barrel cool slightly faster. Im not saying they aren’t overhyped. I mean it’s a $3k pistol being used for training. Might as well go all the way.
Ben, STEEL frame !!! Stainless bbl., slide cuts & trigger weight your choice, definitely Holosun 507C, xtra 20 rd mags - good plan, especially if youre using it in an LEO class, very much a duty pistol.
I love the staccato P. 10k rounds through mine. Replaced the recoil spring twice now. Only issue I've had is failure to lock back. This only happens when the gun is under-lubed and dirty.
7:37 in today’s market. There is quite a bit of people who could provide you a retention holster with almost any optic. Then once they find out Ben is asking then for sure it will be a priority project.
Heck yeah! I think you will dig the P more. Snaps back on target quick and less cleaning! I would get the grip textured or buy the Vulcan Machine works aluminum grip. Do the 3lb trigger, x serrations, non threaded DLC barrel, steel frame. I run a C&H plate. Sits lower and more secure than the Dawson. But Atlas mags. Same price about and better quality.
I bought a staccato C2 with the bull barrel and a compensated barrel. I thought this was an excellent option for me as it would give me a backup to my sti steelmaster as well as a limited optic gun. Also the c2 bull version would be excellent to carry. Multiple uses for me was a selling point.
Extra barrel from the get-go, if you want a threaded and non thread barrel in one shot. Makes since when ordering, since the barrel's are not a drop in fit. Might get lucky but most need to be fitted to the gun it's self
If you have the standard barrel but “might” run or try a comp or silencer later I could see getting the extra barrel that is threaded just to have ready.
They supposedly released a P with the 2.5 lb trigger like the XC. Mine is steel frame with DLC barrel which I think looks better. Also if you want a spare or threaded barrel to add a comp later you save money by ordering with the gun. Otherwise you have to send gun back to staccato for them to fit it and the barrel is $600.
I say you go full stock with the 508t. I believe the sro still has issues with the retention holsters like the safariland. Also, Steel frame is the most common.
You can adjust the trigger weight very easily yourself. It's probably one of the simplest things someone can do to a 2011. There's a few guides out there. I took my P from ~4.5 to ~3.25 in about 15 minutes.
Holosun, one threaded one none threaded barrel to allow for going to places you can't have it, training with cans and maybe even testing some of the threaded comps down the line. The X serrations to troll and maybe try one of the big sticks to see how long they last without a rebuild at high round counts. Show us are the stacattos mags the reliable easy mode 2011 mags we were promised
I have had my P for a couple of years, they didn't have so many choices then, but I would never pay $100 to change the trigger pull weight, that is just stupid, Staccato is getting greedy to help pay for their ranch.
I run an aluminum lower on mine. I've had 3500 rounds though mine with no issues. From speaking to their customer service, they say its personal preference.
Multiple barrels allow for different chambers, so you could have a gun setup to go 9mm Major and 9mm Minor with just a barrel swap. Thats about all I can see as a use for it.
My staccato xc w/507 comp fits any of the safariland retention duty holsters. The sro wont....i totally ruined the internal lock trying to make it fit and had to get a replacement.
Have you considered getting the Staccato CS? I have one with a Trijicon rmrcc and love it! I’m looking at getting the p for home defense next! As far as optic for your P try out the Trijicon rmr hd!
I have 2 Staccato Ps I use for USPSA. One with the serrations and DLC coating, one without. Otherwise identical, 507 comps, did my own trigger work and parts work myself. Have about 10k rounds through my main one and 4k through the backup gun. The X serrations are purely aesthetic. They are functionally useless. Same goes for the barrel DLC. I think they are actually great guns for the price, but the prodigy has replaced them as the best dollar to value for competition guns (which is not what you want it for I know). But all if this if qualified with "you get the most value on these if you work on them yourself."
I have a P with the 507 comp and am waiting for the safariland holster to show up. I ordered the holster that accepts the acro hoping that will give enough room for the 507. I'll update when the holster arrives.
I have several thousand failure-free rounds through my P. Reduced TPW for competition and Dark Side Precision grip work. I've had to reduce the right-side safety considerably but that's to be expected.
Here’s my staccato order for y’all to have problems with: Staccato C2 DLC threaded barrel Extra non-threaded DLC barrel Compensator E series slide cuts Aim point ACRO P2 Sure fire x300t Two extra 16 round mags(for carry) Micah 7:5 engraved on the side(KJV) Total with taxes $5,557.39 I think it’s gonna be a perfect first handgun. Most expensive thing I’ve bought in my 22 years.
If you are so target-focused, why have an SRO or the Holosun Comp? Theoretically, wouldn't a smaller optic, like a 507k, perform equally well since you practice with occluded optics? Honest question.
My buddy's P with an SRO doesn't fit in my Safariland holster designed for a P with an RMR, i think its the length of the optic. Sample of one and they might make one for an SRO but just FYI.
I like how when they saw Ben’s reaction to the XC they basically said “nooo the P is more reliable” and now Ben is getting a P lmao 😂 people will make any excuse for their guns not being reliable
DLC coating basically behaves like a much-improved black nitride is my understanding. It's more durable, lower friction coefficient, less likely to fuck up the heat treat - pretty much a straight upgrade across the board.
Your current Staccato barrel is DLC so how do you like it? As far as paying for a reduced trigger is something you can easily do your self, I reduced my model P to 2.5# with no issue.
@@peterquinn2997the extra weight makes for a better shooting gun and absorbs more of the recoil. When I carry a gun the extra weight is not an issue and I can't tell that the gun is heavier. When I shoot the lighter guns are snappier and it is noticeable to me. I have tungsten weights in several of my carry guns to make them shoot better. Allegedly the steel will last longer and keep tolerances but I don't really see that being an issue for me/most people.
You want it cause with the amount you shoot. By the time you need another barrel you’d have to send in the entire gun to the manufacturer or gunsmith to have it fitted. It’s not like a Glock where you can just throw a barrel in. Just future proofing
@HWG-wm8ld I'll agree to disagree. If the slide has less friction with the barrel - it'll work better. To me, the DLC barrels have always felt like they have less binding with the slide.
Re: Second barrel. You could have say a 9MM and a second barrel chambered in 38 Super for the ol' two guns in one thing. I used to shoot 9 major and decided I wanted to move to 38SC. Gunsmith made a second barrel chambered in SC and fitted it to the gun. Never used the 9MM barrel again, but I have it if I ever want to go back to 9MM.
You don't need another barrel unless you want a threaded one to put a dawson ice comp or suppressor. I would highly suggest getting the barrel with DLC coating and not in stainless steel. The DLC looks nicer and is a bit slicker / needs less oil at least in my experience after having a stainless barrel XL. Stick with steel frame. That's the OG standard model P. The aluminum is lightly lighter in weight but IMO not super noticeable. They made the aluminum to make it lighter for conceal carry. I would go with X series serrations as they look cool and are much more grippy than the standard P.
@@HWG-wm8ld yep I’m LEO too. Agreee they made it lighter for carry purposes. Having owned a stainless steel barrel XL, the barrel gets beat up pretty quick. DLC is a great coating and has a bit more lubricity to it. It’s not just for looks.
Hey Ben, regarding the question of getting an additional barrel; with all the shooting you do, have you ever burned through a barrel on one of your pistol? It seems to be a bragging point amongst guys who go through thousands of rounds per month through their guns.
Different barrels would probably to shoot uspsa LO with out a comp. And idpa CO with a comp. 🤷🏼♂️ only reason I could see people wanting 2 barrels. Or to run suppressed at some point.
Why not get the Staccato XL? That one is more catered to competition. Longer Barrel and Sight Radius plus crisper trigger comes in nice. The P is really the duty model.
Ben, what are the numbers on your performance improvements from the Staccato (vs the Glock)? I would argue that it takes a shooter at your level to realize the performance gains.
