If you do, sometimes you can go along with it and make it a part of the music. Then it becomes more dramatic and less an error. Harder to do in a band setting though
I didn't quite understand what you meant. Could you repeat that please?(1 alligator 2 alligator) ease(1 alligator 2 alligator) ease (1 alligator 2 alligator) ease …..
Ok I know at some point less is more, but just once I’d like to set up four amps in a room in 360 degrees and go stereo delay into two stereo delays so there are four outputs. Wouldn’t be useful for recording but live I wonder how 3D you could get it. I recall Pink Floyd playing Astronomy Domine (?) in concert and the guitar sound seeming to swirl in a circle around the stadium. It may have just been my perception, but it seemed like it was not just panning, it was going around. Gotta try it once anyway. Or 8 outputs? (Insert maniacal laugh here)
I saw Jean Luc Ponty once in "quadrophonic" sound. It was great, and to your point, they were able to pan the violin all the way around the room. It would be cool to try a surround sound recording some time for sure. Now I just need to get a surround sound system. :-)
They had a series of speakers arond the arena's they played each triggered to play a certain amount of time The music actually did swirl around you , crazy right? at least thats what I was told
@@chordsoforion I think many viewers would still be very interested in your musical background or, in this case, more the areas your inspiration came and coms from.
@@chordsoforion Prog u say... Hmmm. I'd love to hear more good prog! KC is the best thing I heard, but I listened to them tooooo much, need some new things.
This Video is al little old, but one of the best you have ever made. Maybe you once want to make an update. For example you get great sounds by combining a reverse and a normal delays. Another very nice field of ambient experimentation is stacking delays and reverbs.
Take his setup for example. He's got the El Capistan going in the dig (stereo) then he splits the output of the stereo each in a mono delay pedal, ie in this case one signal in the avalanche and the other in the canyon. You can add pedals of your choice between the dig and the avalanche and between the dig and the canyon. Let's say for example you add a chorus between the dig and avalanche and an octave between the dig and the canyon. So you have multiple delays with a chorus effect on one side and you have multiple delays with an octave on the other. You can go completely crazy with this.
Yeah. That is a brilliant idea. I took a screenshot of the part where he diagramed things out. I plan on using this with what I have at the moment. It should be quite fun. Wanted to throw this in too: THE AVALANCHE RUN IS SO AWESOME!!!!
I've watched this one a few times and haven't acted on it yet. However, my theory is to replace the 2nd (stereo) delay with stereo flanger. I'm imagining a low speed, medium-low depth and high regeneration/intensity will give a neat metallic flavor to tape delay before splitting to slower delays (tube and lo bit for a little of that grit without the oscillation issue.
I thought about getting the earth Quaker d. But I have the caverns and etherial wompler. And the fender Marine reverb. N dl4 Anyway 2 questions are you playing with like the b-c3 or some kind of sustain compression???in this video? And others and my other question was do u really think the avalanche is that great? I was not that impressed but I get it bill you got to have the most expensive everything lol lol I'd do the same if I could.
Set up some instances of whatever delays come free with your DAW into an instance of Valhalla Shimmer, an absolutely awesome reverb plugin that costs $30. You will have this sound in no time.
god damn i loved everything about this im a huge delay freak, ive got your next whiskey in kansas if you every run around, plussss loads of fun delay pedals and other pedals we could record in the studio
Nice that the two Strymons together create a reverb. @ 4:15 you're nicely in Vini Reilly/ Durutti Column territory. Good thing you did'nt pull out the TC Triple Delay. 😉😬
Great Great Job, a lot to learn from you. I'm starting at this, so I would like to ask you in what order do you think would be best to do the stack? Right now I have an analog Delay BOSS DM2 and a digital delay. Which one would you put first? Thank you very very much
As usual, another informative and helpful video. I've watched the last several Chords of Orion videos of the Boss GT 1000 with great interest. It certainly seems like a miraculous unit, but watching this makes me appreciate having the physical controls of each unit instead of digging down into a vast Network of virtual controls of a multi-effects unit. I guess it's a matter of preference, but it would be nice to know how others feel about this.
That was great information, Bill. Especially the tip about splitting the stereo out to two different delays. I'll set that up with my El Cap -> Nemesis -> Dig....thanks!
Cool in a bedroom but pretty unusable in a band context when playing more than one single note every 5 seconds. When you play faster runs/songs like that, it quickly becomes a huge wall of mushy nothingness. Also it would be cool if you could demonstrate all that without using the volume pedal all the time so we could hear what the fx are actually doing. It’s an interesting topic for sure. I also use several delays on my board but in a completely different way. (I play psychedelic rock and space rock/kraut stuff).
Hi Bill - Eddie in the UK here. I enjoyed this video as with all your others ! Would you be willing to share the actual settings used in this configuration please Bill as I am new to Ambient Guitar and find it a little difficult to create the sounds you are demonstrating. Thanks again for another great video Bill. Best regards - Eddie.
Hi Eddie - unfortunately, I did not write down the settings for the pedals, and they've all been used with different settings over the years. The good news is that all the knobs are visible in the inset picture (just upside down). Do you have the same pedals?
@@chordsoforion Hi Bill. Thanks for replying so quickly ! I don’t the same pedals as I have a Zoom G3XN Pedal which allows me to customise each effect and the order is I put in the chain
Oops ! Sorry Bill - I hit send in error 😱😂. The Zoom allows me to customise the effects and the order I want them in the chain. I’ve watched your beginner’s tutorials and made a note of the control positions to try to emulate your tones. Thanks again Bill - I thought my question might also help other Ambient Newbies like me. Best regards - Eddie
I want all of my effects to see the dry-output signal from my guitar, even when several are on at once. They get blended into one out signal before they hit the amp head. I believe its called parallel processing...but I dont know how its done.
Great tips, but from my experience, #5, "Don't overdo it" seems to be the most impoartant one. I've tried stacking delays numerous times, but found that more often than not, the result can very quickly become messy - unless you play very, very few notes, and even then the delay repeats can make a track sound repetitive. I personally prefer working with parallel delays, but unfortunately splitting and reuniting the signal path is also not unproblematic. In my main setup, the signal goes from a Danelectro PB&J Digital delay into an ABY switch, where one signal goes into a TC Electronic Flashback Triple Delay and the other into a Danelectro Reel Echo. I'm generally happy with this setup, but I'd sometimes like a bit more flexibility or something a tad more outlandish.
Enjoyed this. If your looking for suggestions Bill A beginners guide to ambient baritone would be good - like you did with your Alan holdsworth guitar but using a baritone
There are some good pointers here. This video encouraged me to stack some delays and reverbs. The ideas presented here helped me more of what I have, pedal-wise.
Really invaluable tips for delay-aficionados. The only thing I'm afraid of is that I'll end up buying even more delay pedals (got three already). Anyway, thanks for these and other vid's. Very well done and inspirational.
Hi Bill, I really like your work both creative and very inspiring. Back to your video, I currently own 2 digital delays Nova Delay & Headrush 2 > which analog delay could you recommend to nicely complement them ?
Lovely, thank you. Your primary tone is also quite extraordinary. I really like that stereo trick, and have messed with similar approaches. One thing I am finding (and I probably wrongly pride myself on my good timing!) is that all of my delays seem to respond to tap tempo in ways I cannot seem to get right, which often forces me to turn the repeats down much more than I would like to especially if metronomes are involved. Any tips there? I usually manage, and yeah, first world problem for sure!
Now this is totally rad! I'm completely inspired to try this myself. You do seem to offer me a lot of cool ideas and inspiration to implement into my ambient guitar playin'. Keep up the good work!
It's all great playing with them after smoking a joint but if it was a gig then the audience already left. And then you say keep.it under control. I've been there. Now I'm going tube amp only more often. And now I hate u2. Enjoyed the journey until the politics went evil and blind.
Your point is very good in regards to gigging and keeping the audience interested and engaged. I don't often play this kind of stuff live, but when I do, I simplify, simplify, simplify.
I really like this, i love to compose ambient music, just suck that i don't know how to play the guitar. This is really inspiring and makes me wanna start to practise !!. got any tips for investing in a ambient guitar for a beginner?.
Glad you found the video of value! As far as selecting a guitar goes, any guitar you like to play can be used for ambient music. The one caveat is that super high gain pickups for heavier styles of playing don't work as well for more nuanced tones. But really, it's all about what you like to play and the tone that you prefer.
I normally like slower styles, so anything with just a few notes/chords here and there mixed in with other sounds is what i have in mind. Thank you for the feadback :)
Have you ever experienced a type of phase cancellation (loss of lows/mid range)when running a analog delay into a digital delay when you have both on but when you turn the analog delay off the signal comes back
this is a nice demo but not really that helpful, anyone can just rig delay pedals together and play around with it, I was hoping to see tips on actually sculpting/managing that big droning sound once you have it built up. tips on chaining all this + compression or other tools for quality are what I'm looking for
It' true - this was meant to be a more generic set of tips as opposed to a specific drone technique. I have a bunch of other videos here on the channel that demonstrate how to create drones with stacked delays, reverbs and loopers. Have you seen any of them?
i have been using an A/B switch running into Zoom CDR, Canyon, DD20 and triple delay... i end up with 2 distinct stereo outs {channel 1&2 stereo and channel 3&4 stero in} going to my yamaha mixer... even just switching between A and B, single or combined can create a myriad of dynamics. i create a drone on preset 4 of the DD20, and it continues when i go to manual which i have set to Looper....... lot of options........
No reverbs. Here's the full list of gear in the video description: Equipment used in this video (in order of the signal chain): PRS SE-277 Baritone Guitar amzn.to/2PtkWyb Wampler Ego Compressor amzn.to/2LflxBf Morley Little Alligator Volume Pedal amzn.to/2Co4dEZ Strymon DIG Dual Digital Delay Strymon El Capistan Delay Earthquaker Devices Avalanche Run Delay amzn.to/2w3979V EHX Canyon Delay amzn.to/2Pt29TW Avid Eleven Rack amzn.to/2nO8Cwl Focusrite Saffire Pro 40: amzn.to/2es9elp Apple Logic Pro X
I use a short slap back single echo into a stereo ping pong set to eighths or quarters. Doesn’t work on everything. But you can play with how much the mono signal is feeding into the stereo. Lots of fun.
I have an old Zoom 508. There is a setting on it where it never stops repeating. You play a line, add a line and it keeps going and going. Good for driving people nuts. I saw an electric violinist do something like this once.
Hi Bill - love your work, highly informative and your compositions are beautiful. On a side note about visuals I like the look of your recent videos - have you thought about a more neutral guitar strap? Sometimes I find the visuals and music very meditative but the red strap stands out from your muted tones (pun intended). Also, absolutely nothing against your shoes or socks, but have you ever thought about attempting to get a quiet shoe sponsorship - not stating the sponsor in the video, but maybe putting the link in the description for any of your discerning viewers - just thinking creatively and it seems appropriate given we regularly see your footwork - worth a try!
What is your setup for capturing the sound in your videos? Are you plugin directly into the interface or are do you have a mic on the cabinet. Very clean. Nice tones.
Love your comment: "Lets make the delay time a little longer longer longer ..." I've never, yet, stacked so many and complex delays like that. Usually run in tip nr. 5: avoid making a mess of it (don't overdo it). Master at work here, and an instructional video I'm certain to return to every once and a while. Thanks!
Really love your videos, I am a subscriber and big fan of what you do. Extremely well done, quality product that you turn out. Thank you so much for your channel, your videos!
I don’t have two amps to run stereo but the katana 100 head has 2 units via USB, one unit has all the amp sounds and the other acts as a direct audio interface... I’ll try to pan them differently and run a set of delays in front (on both amps) and use its own delays on the loop of just one track...
I recommend to those owning stereo pedals to explore "reprocessing". That is, the output of one channel is used as the input signal of the other channel. Many interesting effects and textures can be obtained, in those pedals that permit it. Even better, insert something else between output A and input B such that the second processing is on a transformation of the first. My favorite is doing this with reverse delay, or delay that imposes swell on the repeats.
Yep. All gear in the vid description: Equipment used in this video (in order of the signal chain): PRS SE-277 Baritone Guitar amzn.to/2PtkWyb Wampler Ego Compressor amzn.to/2LflxBf Morley Little Alligator Volume Pedal amzn.to/2Co4dEZ Strymon DIG Dual Digital Delay Strymon El Capistan Delay Earthquaker Devices Avalanche Run Delay amzn.to/2w3979V EHX Canyon Delay amzn.to/2Pt29TW Avid Eleven Rack amzn.to/2nO8Cwl Focusrite Saffire Pro 40: amzn.to/2es9elp Apple Logic Pro X
