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Creationists are the "flat-Earthers" of biology. And James Tour is the Nathan Oakley of creationism.

Listening to Dave constantly shit on James is one of the most fun ways to learn about science. I picture groups of scientists watching these videos going 'OHHH BURN'

James tour: we shouldn't have a 3000 year old Babylonia idea in text books! Also James Tour: i want my 2000 year old book in textbooks!

I believe Dave's catchphrase "science isn't dogma, you're just stupid" might apply here.

I love it when these charlatans get so convinced by their own prowess, that they try and pull their BS on specialists in the field. Tour At The Round Table was priceless.

"Standing for Truth " is one of the most delusional and dishonest creationist apologists out there. Gutsick Gibbon has a whole back catalogue addressing his nonsense.

James Tour, looking in the mirror: "I'm going to end this man's whole academic career"

That last story is heartbreaking. To hijack someone's funeral for an agenda is disgusting. I don't care if Tour was absolutely correct, that is not acceptable.

I freaking love these videos Dave! These apologists probably go to bed having nightmares that a new Professor Dave debunk was released.

It's so ironic hearing Jim talk about "Oh the primordial soup model is 3,000 years old and comes from ancient mythology" when... His entire argument is based on his interpretation of 3,000 year old ancient mythology. My dude is like "Gah, babylonian mythology is so dumb!" and then turns around to worship a god from a book that was plagiarized from babylonian, greek, and other mythologies.

Waldorf: This guy a relative of yours? Statler: No, but I wish that he was. Waldorf: You do? Statler: Yeah, so I could have the pleasure of disowning him. Both: Oh Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho!

I'm honestly living for this drama at this point... it's endless entertainment, and I hope Dave continues to profit off of these people's idiocy. How has Rice University not said anything about James yet? He's lying about other prominent researchers, and being dishonest, they shouldn't stand for that.

For any tour fans out there: both James and Dave live in the USA, if any of these allegations were untrue James could sue Dave for defamation, all he'd need to do is present the EVIDENCE that shows Dave to be wrong. This evidence would need to pass scrutiny, meaning it can't be misinterpreted or skewed by religious or political agendas. But he hasn't done it, in these three or so years James hasn't taken the one sure-fire way to stop "Dave's lies". I wonder why

"We have actually discovered a perpetual motion machine." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

No Primordial Soup for you!! He's like a Seinfeld character. 😂

Tour: I cant understand how it works, so God did it. So how did God do it? Tour: we cant understand how God does things.

Neil Degrasse Tyson said something like this: I have no problem if you preach at church. That's your first amendment right. But when you try to preach at school. Then we have a problem.

Jim's becoming the epitome of the quote "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"

Hey Dave once again thank you , Tour is on the Rampage and we all appreciate your work. Just wanted to give you some ammunition. I am not sure if you saw this but there was just an elegant publication on chirality. See "The studies were published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on February 5, 2024, and in Nature on February 28, 2024. Together, they suggest that the emergence of homochirality was due largely to a chemistry phenomenon called kinetic resolution, in which one chiral form becomes more abundant than another due to faster production and/or slower depletion." Donna Blackmond, PhD, professor and John C. Martin Chair in the Department of Chemistry at Scripps Research

These people really never give up trying to tear down learning. Never give up tearing them down right back, Dave!

You know, I'm starting to agree with Tour's mantra of "We're clueless." Though it applies only to James and his ilk at the DI rather than to humanity.

I think deep down creationists know that they are part of a declining movement.

It is just shocking how dim these so-called "educated" creationists are. 😅

When Tour says "we are clueless" he demonstrates yet again that creationists are experts at projection...

How about a compromise. We can have both. We can keep all the science in the textbooks which satisfies the scientists and at the end of the book we can put a little note that says: "James Tour is clueless about all this" which is what he wants the books to say and has demonstrated thoroughly that the statement is true.

Jim can't drop science, because DI doesn't want basic preachers, they need people who can be used as an authority figure.

One thing that I don't understand about James Tour is that he's not a young earth creationist, so why is he so against systems chemistry and abiogenesis? He even said in the Harvard round table that abiogenesis must've happened with a naturalistic explanation, so why is he so against Origin of Life research? Is it simply delusion?

My jaw actually dropped when Tour brought up the Lee tweet again. Like, WOW. Wooooooow. "Oh well, he didn't SAY it was tongue in cheek in the tweet." Like yeah, no shit Jim. Is Monty Python and the Holy grail trying to be a good documentary because they never SAY that it's comedy, not history? What's that, obviously the comedians wouldn't be trying to make a documentary, and the film shows this? Well interesting, so maybe the Origin of life researcher making a fairly obviously strange cheek denouncing HIS OWN FIELD should've been enough to spell it out for you!

Tour always provides a good lunch entertainment

Not understanding chemistry is one thing, but actively not understanding probability is wild

Sadly, I work with Rob at my company. I have to bite my tongue every time I run into him in the hallways. Edit: Just to be clear, I don't work directly with him (it's a big company), but sometimes operate in the same circles.

To borrow a term from SciManDan that I believes applies pretty well to all science deniers: Personal incredulity is not strong evidence against anything.

Dave: A great sophisticated argument based on facts and objective truth James: NUH UH NO WAY THEY ARE SELF-REPLICATING

At this point, he should realize that he doesn't have to put this much effort into his deception. He could literally say "Science is doo doo" and his audience would join together in a celebratory hymn.

I sometimes wonder how many times a day Tour thinks of Dave. Must be torture lol.

Standing For Truth in a Professor Dave video? were getting closer to that Gutsick Gibbon x Professor Dave combo every day!

If they keep digging like that, they might finally learn a bit of geology. Gutsick Gibbon will be pleased.

This new turn to the Tour saga has been WILD. I wouldn't have thought this was where it'd go.

If the half-life of nucleic acids was really only a few hours, then every biology lab in academia would be in trouble. 😂 We keep primers and plasmids for literal decades without significant degradation or loss of function! It's insane to me that people I know (some who actually have Jim on their advisory committee) actually think this guy is intelligent...

As someone who was raised in a young earth creationism community until high school and given the diet explanation for darwinian evolution. Thank you Dave for exposing these conmen for what they are while explaining how things actually work. I’ve learned more about evolution watching your videos than my middle school ever taught my

I've been really enjoying learning from your book, Is This WiFi Organic. I've also really enjoyed learning various things from your channel. I'm just a simple layperson, I'm not going to school for chemistry, or physics, or any of the other topics you cover. I'm simply curious about how stuff works. Thank you so much for your incredible content.

One thing about Levinthals paradox that is being ignored: folding starts right at the start of translation. Proteins aren't formed as rigid uncooked spaghetti that then gets a green light to start sampling conformations. It starts directly, and often will fold in modular ways. If the first 15 amino acids clump together in a stable way, the next ten will have way less freedom of movement. At any point, the amount of amino acids that are actively in the process of folding their backbone, is smaller than the total length. Also, think about it. Can *every* backbone bond angle be sampled? Of course not, because there are trillions upon trillions of combinations of bond angles that would cause the total molecule to physically intersect with itself, as if noclipping. All those possibilities are physically impossible, and shouldn't be summed.

I like how the creationists talk of replication as if its 1 action with 1 cell in the beginning (they always speak in a singular not a plural). How did they come to the conclusion that its not trillions of cells across the planet trying trillions of ways to replicate across the planet?

Thank you for exposing the DI. There are a lot of people in the area I live in that are susceptible to this type of thinking and I love being able to refute and educate people because of what you do for us.

"Actually we have discovered a perpetual motion machine, it's James Tour not shutting up about this" holy shit lmfao

Why am I not surprised that Jimbo was the Elon Musk of his department, abusing his power to push people around, incapable of taking criticism and constantly coming out with half-baked ideas that he would take no criticism of despite the fact that he'd clearly not given them the slightest bit of thought.

"The earth going around the Sun is not common sense." Damn, the flat earthers are going to quote mine the hell out of that i bet.

thanks to Kevin Ausman for his clarity + conscience. It takes bravery to speak up, even when you're secure.

30:00 finally, a perpetual motion machine, imagine how much power we could make off of Tour's shouting and arm waving

Came for the drama, stayed for the research

He admits that he regrets getting into all of this. He's falling for the sunk cost fallacy. I'm sure if he's reprimanded for any of this in the future, he can cry foul, go work for some creationist institution, and be an example of a "persecuted" scientist.

Such a joy that others have come forward to expose Tour. It's like watching a terrible wreck. I just can't stop watching.

Intelligent design has slowly been dwindling in part due to better knowledge today. I wonder when the growing mountain of evidence against creationism causes the last little nugget to just crumble apart.

at 10:00 i love how they start by saying they never seen self replication but then go on to say that the outcome was selected by human beings. OH so it DID self replicate ha ? lol

I’m happy that both Dave and his guests have been clarifying that Rice university doesn’t fully endorse James

As much as I enjoy the drama that Prof. tour and pals get; the showcases of frontier chemistry research is such a gem. This series has taught me so much on the basics for systems chemistry and ool research (barely knew anything of either field prior to this)

I love how Jim went from respected scientist with misguided religious opinions on abiogenesis to almost full blown out con man over the course of all these videos exposing him LOL

With all the horrible, despicable shit coming out about James' time at Rice, I am really detesting him more and more. I used to think he was just some scientist mindlessly and dishonestly spouting Creationist nonsense, but seeing just how deep the rabbit hole goes, gives me a brand-new level of utter repugnance and disgust for the man. He needs to be taken down. Dave, you are to James, as Brian Deer was to Andrew Wakefield, or Harry Brewis (HBomberGuy) to James Somerton. Keep it up!

Golden rule: whenever a creacrapper doesn't like some scientific conclusions you can't confront him often enough with it. They hardly ever fail to embarrass themselves.

At this point someone should make a James Tour bingo card for every new video of his script of nonsense that he never bothers changing

If James tour and his fellow buffoon's taught this crap in British school they would be sacked. But in the US he works as professor at Rice university. I think that says a lot about the education system in America.

One quick point of trivial criticism: The mRNA in the vaccines is engineered with modified bases to be resistant to nucleases so that’s not a great example of the longevity of RNA, but this is really just a technicality.

Something I love about this series is…. OK, James, when are you taking Dave to court for libel? You stand to make a phenomenal fortune in damages! Oh, you’re not doing that? Why not? Is it because truth is an absolute defence in such cases and you know full well that Dave’s every word is completely true? 🤷‍♂️

oooh! A lovely little cameo from SFT! Also known as Stooping For Lies!

This channel is my happy place. I've never been good at chemistry, but having someone like Tour makes me feel better. Especially when you call him out.

An interesting coincidence that Robert Stadler is also the name of a "scientist" in the novel "Atlas Shrugged" who invented a device that eventually killed him and a lot of other people.

My response when I saw the title of this video: "Oh f*ck!"😲 This is definitely going to be both interesting and entertaining.

I’d argue that creationists aren’t as religious or faith-filled as they purport - they commit lese majeste against the Eternal, N-dimensional, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Being they make stentorian proclamations about by insisting that creation was done in six days - their God is extremely limited What is 13.8 billion years to such a Being? These people are afraid, very afraid - there was a time when many humans worshipped the Sun, as it gave light, heat, caused crops to grow, etc. Then, an understanding of the sun as a reactor, a plasma field where hydrogen is fused into helium happened - and the Sun was no longer a deity. As humans gain further understanding of abiogenesis and others processes, the God of creationists is likely to lose place as an object of worship

I think it's time to reach out to the press and riceU's marketing dept

Kevin Ausman is right, calling out misinformation and standing up for truth is more important than ever. Bravo for him for coming out and speaking up about James. Keep it up Dave, we need to keep these lunatics away from the education system.

James complaining about “Babylonian myths” when talking about the primordial soup model is ironic considering he wants his 2000+ year old book of myths and fairy tales taught in the public school science curriculum.

The funeral story makes me feel physically sick with anger. I can just imagine poor Rick saying “…yeah…yeah…ok…Jesus yeah whatever…” just to get JimmyBoy to shut the F up and leave him alone, only for Jim to do his disgusting stuff - just like they tried doing with Darwin. 🤬

A James Tour video and it’s 1 hour long? Yes.

Just can’t get enough of these videos!!

I'm listening to this video literally in a lab working on transgenic organisms. It's good to know my work is literally impossible within the lifetime of several universes. Makes me feel important.

James Tour - the gift that keeps giving 😂😂😂👏👏👏

Thank you for posting your sources/evidence. I love videos that provide sources. It means they have nothing to hide.

About the babylonians, he’s right that they “predicted” the primordial soup. So what. Thousands of civilisations with millions of people, at some point someone said something that corresponds to something we have said. Brahma’s dreaming describe a cyclical universe which is also a hypothesis we’ve had for a long time. It’s the “Simpsons predict the future thing”. Through past on the wall long enough and you’ll start hitting the same spots after a while.

This is the same guy that claimed he saw Jesus in his dorm room 😂

"It's dumb and wrong because it's thousands of years old!" says the man who says a book that is thousands of years old is absolute, inerrant fact.

Dear Dave, I know this isn't your most popular video, but it's so important! My people really appreciate what you've been doing to di! Thank you!

Excellent work Dave! Keep exposing them. As a religious scientist myself, these creationists are deeply embarrassing.

if there's is a god, he despises James tour

I knew a well respected physics professor who was also a Christian lay-preacher. He never talked about religion, when he was lecturing or at social events. But he was on a television proogram talking about his Church of England beliefs.

Has he just complained about a 3,000 year old theory? Um, pot, kettle.

Creationists being ignorants and demagogues. That's new, never saw such thing.

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🧪 Systems chemistry studies how molecules interact, shedding light on abiogenesis, despite denial from some.* 01:25 *🤚🏻 James Tour dismisses self-replicating ribozymes, despite evidence, resorting to denial rather than engagement.* 02:49 *📚 Creationist Rob Stadler lacks qualifications, relying on flawed arguments to discredit scientific research.* 05:07 *🎓 Being religious doesn't disqualify scientists, but using religion to deny valid science impedes progress.* 07:46 *🧬 Self-replicating ribozymes have been demonstrated, despite claims to the contrary from skeptics like Rob Stadler.* 10:23 *🧪 Research focuses on RNA's capabilities, not prebiotic synthesis, despite misinterpretations from critics.* 12:34 *🔄 Creationists invoke "god of the gaps" argument, ignoring scientific explanations for complex processes like homochirality.* 16:11 *🏗️ Extant life complexity doesn't reflect simplicity at origin, akin to claiming modern buildings represent the simplest dwellings possible.* 17:50 *🌱 Ecosystems evolve gradually, and extant life complexity doesn't discount simpler origins, despite creationist arguments.* 18:37 *🔬 Science often defies common sense, and scientific inquiry is guided by empirical analysis rather than intuition.* 19:56 *🧬 Many scientific concepts, including those in chemistry and biology, are not common sense and require diligent empirical analysis for understanding.* 20:52 *🤔 Discussions on origin of life issues can be contentious, with reluctance from experts to engage and challenges in bridging scientific understanding with public perception.* 22:45 *🔄 James Tour's arguments against peptide formation in water ignore research findings and rely on shifting goalposts and misrepresentation of scientific evidence.* 24:32 *💡 Scientific exploration aims to uncover natural mechanisms without presuppositions of supernatural intervention, yet challenges remain in understanding the origin of life.* 26:40 *📚 Scientific progress towards understanding the origin of life is ongoing, with acknowledgment of the complexity involved and the need for further discoveries.* 30:46 *🌊 The dismissal of the primordial soup model overlooks the concept of systems chemistry and the evolving understanding of early life emergence.* 32:09 *🧬 RNA-based replication, although less efficient and specific than modern cellular processes, showcases autocatalytic behavior relevant to the origin of life.* 35:13 *🔍 Comparing RNA replication to modern cellular fidelity overlooks the context of early life's likely tolerance for higher mutation rates and lower replication accuracy.* 36:12 *💡 Early RNA replication likely tolerated higher error rates, suggesting that perfection was not necessary for early life emergence.* 37:30 *🧬 RNA's complexity in a prebiotic world challenges creationist claims about probability, emphasizing the broader principles applicable to various sequences.* 38:24 *🧪 Mass transfer problem highlights challenges in sustaining reactions due to low yields and finite starting materials, contrasting laboratory vs. natural processes.* 39:44 *⚛️ Nature's ability to recycle and amplify building blocks counters claims of material depletion, showcasing the dynamic nature of chemical systems.* 41:56 *🔄 Protein folding is guided by thermodynamics, maximizing stability through electrostatic interactions, debunking misconceptions about its randomness.* 46:36 *🔥 Non-equilibrium thermodynamics supports the inevitability of life's evolution, driven by the import of free energy, contrary to claims of opposition from natural processes.* 48:54 *📚 Proposals to remove scientific explanations from textbooks in favor of claiming cluelessness hinder understanding and progress in scientific inquiry.* 50:47 *🤔 Lack of comprehension and misrepresentation of scientific models by certain individuals undermines informed discourse and perpetuates misinformation.* 54:25 *🛑 Misrepresentation of scientific research and threats of legal action inhibit open dialogue and progress in scientific understanding.* 55:22 *🎭 The video fails to delve into RNA replication despite its title, with Rob cherry-picking a single Joyce paper to discredit the entire field.* 56:14 *📉 Former colleagues like Andrew Barron and Kevin Ausman expose James Tour's pattern of hyping and plagiarizing his work, highlighting a Nature paper on flash graphene as particularly fraudulent.* 01:14:19 *💼 Spectral analysis reveals James Tour's 2020 Nature paper on flash graphene lacks evidence, with critics deeming it no more than graphite with minimal graphene, exposing the hype parade surrounding it as fraudulent.* 01:16:34 *🔄 Despite admitting doubts about his path, James Tour continues his divisive actions, prompting ongoing scrutiny and exposure of his scientific practices by colleagues and critics alike.* 01:17:58 *🕵️‍♂️ The installment concludes with a warning to James Tour, urging him to choose between being a scientist or a preacher and advising him to embrace his role as a preacher due to his tarnished scientific reputation.* Made with HARPA AI

Life exists. Question:how did it happen? Smart question. Who made it? Stupid question.

Sometimes I ask myself why all creationists and apologists are such dishonest liars all around. And then I remember you don't become an apologist or a scientist without eventually knowing better; so you either stop become a creationist, or you stop being honest.

Dear Dave, My compliments for having and finding the energy to unmask these semi-scientific bullshit. Like your vids, keep on the good work.

What a fuckin worm tour is. Maybe due to past similar personal experience, but Ausman's funeral story made me rage. Glad Dave is taking him down.

One Kilo, out of an ENTIRE planet? How do you run out of matter on an entire planet?!?

When you’re presented with data and sound conclusions arising from said data but reject it with zero objective reasoning, you’re not a scientist. Tour is not a scientist. He’s a theist.

Unfortunately, such Frauds hold great power and desire much more. Equally unfortunately, the Separation of Church and State has been dying for decades. And most unfortunately, a large segment of the population supports them wholeheartedly. Thank you for your tireless efforts Professor Dave.

We are supposed to disregard some of the very concepts that help us in medicine and so many fields because Jimbo said so lmao. I had a biology professor who made a not-so-subtle attempt at discrediting the theories surrounding the creation of the solar system and of our moon, and gave definite creationist vibes. It was unreal on its own at a public university (mind you this was 12 years ago but still). Tour is a whole other level of unreal. All these years later and I do not tire of Dave debunking him and his ilk. Please keep it going.

Is there anyone who finally realizes the idea of existence is just incomprehensible? Like wow. Cause even if you believe there’s a god who created us…where did they come from. Do they not have a starting point? Even if they ALWAYS EXISTED that would be no less weird to me

Rightnuts: We've never made a cell in a lab! Also Rightnuts: Covid was made in a lab!

It's downright fascinating that they think closing your eyes and believing your gut is the opposite instead of the same as common sense.

Time to quote Jimmy Thinner Than Thong himself again. From his opening statement of the Rice event: "Prof Dave is wrong, I am a véry religious man." "It's all a matter of interpreting the data." This is creacrap speech for "No matter the evidence you will bring up, I am going to reject it." With this JTTT himself admitted that his religious views determines his view of science.

Is he DELIBERATELY sabotaging his own career, or is he clueless about that too?