Staining leather with coffee?? Full dye guide!

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Lets' try stain (or dye) leather with coffee today, discuss the options and go through the motions of staining two card holders with this technique.
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For the moment I don't take orders as I like to spend too many hours getting the finished product as good as I can : this means that if I were to sell these bags, the selling price would be way more than the bags are worth due to the hours of work involved.
As always, do let me know what you think of this creation and this video. If you have any tips or comments about the techniques used, please let me know by dropping a comment below this video :)

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@glitchlife4639 4 года назад

I have tried this myself, but was much more successful. I ground my own dark roast coffee beans and soak the coffee beans and the leather in the same container at the same time like a cold brew. I got a really nice dark brown rich color and no crystallization. It works pretty well, I have also tried Soy sauce and while it worked I could not for the life of me get that damned smell out.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Hahah, I can bet that smell was really annoying by the end, though the idea of using soy sauce does sound quite clever, seeing how potent it is at staining. I'm a bit pissed that I didn't think to try it the way you suggested - I have some old coffee beans lying around and will definitely try your method in the future. How long did you leave the leather to soak for?

@glitchlife4639 4 года назад

@@JamesBerry 24 hours, and be careful what coffee beans you use. Coffee comes in Blond, medium, and dark roast all of which will give you a different degree of pigmentation and radically change the color. This is one of the reasons why using something like filtered coffee doesn't really work as 9 times in 10 your getting a blond to medium roast from store bought coffee. Look for a French, Italian, or an Espresso roasted coffee bean, which are all traditionally dark.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Thank you so much for this feedback! Will be really usefull next time I try this :)

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

@@glitchlife4639 Someone has also recommended using "spent" coffee grains after I've had my coffee... I would love to know your input on that.

@lifeofsanai7051 4 года назад

@@JamesBerry I dont think that would work, the reason being is the stain would loose a large amount of its potency in the brewing process and wouldn't allow you to really get the color your looking for. I like the idea, as it provides an alternative use to recycle your beans and you get more out of your product, but I am wary when it comes to reusing such things for expensive leather. You could theoretically isolate the color compounds using a home made distillation setup to concentrate the coffee (Example here s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/courses-images-archive-read-only/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/2014/08/19210630/20140811155007086898.png ) but that seems a lot more trouble then its worth tbh. (Edit: this is my professional YT account)

@esaturn4771 3 года назад

instant coffee stiffens the leather too much and makes it crack

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Since making this video I have found this very true and would now recommend NOT using instant coffee... I may have to make a follow up of this video soon.

@TheSalMaris 4 года назад

Try walnut husks for dying. I haven’t tried it on leather, but it works on wood.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Oh that's a great idea :o Thanks for the suggestion, will look into it!

@TheSalMaris 4 года назад

James Berry Leathercraft easy to procure at the right time of year, and it stains hands and fingers easy enough. Hand protection in the form of dish washing gloves might be advisable.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Noted thanks :)

@AdamDone 4 года назад

Try again but don't use hot water in the coffee. Use room temperature water and that might help with the initial stiffness and brittleness

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Ah thanks Adam, that's a very good point :o Now that you've mentioned it, I already knew that hot water can do this to leather and should have thought about it.... will indeed try this again for future projects, using your recommended tip!

@AdamDone 4 года назад

James Berry Leathercraft I tried something similar not too long ago however the the leather started smelling unpleasant, almost like cigarettes. Did you notice a negative change in smell using this process?

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

No, for me it's mainly a pleasant leather & coffee smell. Though when I added the Saphir renovateur the smell became more chemical and less pleasant. It's not bad now though, but you can still smell the wax from the Saphir product which is a bit odd when combined to coffee.

@nicolelee2205 3 года назад

The natural coffee colour is really nice.

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

I completely agree :)

@sevencostanza3883 4 года назад

*makes an entire jar of instant coffee and soaks leather in it* "Its just insane how much coffee is actually in this leather!!!"

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Hahah, love it x') I think I was mostly just surprised at how much coffee was coming out vs what I expected to stay attached to the leather. Really thought the result would be darker.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Check out the tools I use and recommend here: www.amazon.com/shop/jamesberry Download the PDF template for this card holder here: www.etsy.com/listing/800416917

@augustbinderybespokeatelie8092 3 года назад

I've never tried to stain leather with coffee, but you will probably have much better results if you use a mordant like alum sulphate, as well as a softener like cream of tartar. You will have better color absorption and can reduce the time of the leather in the coffee mixture.

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Thanks for the tip! I'll need to test and investigate this further as I was not very convinced by the quality of the "dye" / "stain".

@artworld6462 2 месяца назад

what if you didnt leave it in for as long? would it still break

@JamesBerry 28 дней назад

I made this a long time ago and would now recommend a very different method for coffee staining. I would now recommend you put coffee in a mason jar with water (preferably coffee-dregs so you can enjoy drinking the good stuff first), plunge in the leather piece making sure it is submerged in the water, and close up the jar letting the leather sit in the coffee infusion over the course of a few days.

@Greg-su8nu 2 года назад

Great video, thank you for sharing. So thought your girlfriend was going to pop in at the end and say something like "Honey, that's not my coffee right?" ha, Happy Holidays. Be safe. :)

@Skoden_lures 3 года назад

the brittle was caused by the heat

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Thanks for your message Darcy, indeed since making this video I've found this out also.

@mogamatasheeqfloris3566 2 года назад

So I dipped my leather fire arm holster in the coffee method. Will see after 48hr. Was fun watching.

@phyllisfager6689 Год назад

Finally a use for coffee I've aged horn with tea

@alexandre9275 3 года назад

Ca pourrait être sympa de laisser le cuir dans du café sur-torréfié et non soluble, type café grand mère.. et éventuellement de masser le cuir avec.. qui plus est, j'imagine que les pigments sont liposolubles.. donc en ajoutant l'huile de pied de boeuf.. ou de l'huile vegetale..

@madviking7gaming 3 года назад

Id probably add distilled vinager to the coffee

@hunterm.moreno4201 3 года назад

Good information, and a cheap alternative to leather stain!

@saiprasad8001 7 месяцев назад

Does this work on suede? Gut feeling says it'll work better than on smooth leather.

@JamesBerry 7 месяцев назад

It probably would work well, but I wonder if simply letting the leather sit in a solution of water and ground coffee wouldn't be better as the instant coffee seemed to add in a ton of sugar and left the leather needing a lot of cleaning.

@OlliesTreasures 7 месяцев назад

Does it work on faux leather ?

@achessjourney402 Год назад

Coffee doesn't have sugar.

@BertrandJEROME 3 года назад

very instructive thanks ... I wonder how it travel thrue time ... does coffee stains things in contact ? is it stable ? does it react to rain ? (always my bike bag project :) )

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Hi Bertrand, I've found it's quite stable over time and haven't noticed any significant change in color or bleed onto other items. Protecting it with a good wax really helps I think.

@meriecuir3838 2 года назад

Is this dye not removed after wiping it with a wet cloth? I also have an experience. I dyed vegetable leather with the natural dye of beetroot, but it is not stable, and when I wipe it with a wet cloth, it comes off. Is there a way to install the natural dye? Thank you

@JamesBerry 2 года назад

To be certain your dye will not come out or rub off, you need to seal your dye into the leather, using a special leather sealant or good hard wax.

@IsabelGarcia-xy2lp Год назад

i wonder if this would work with suede?

@amersadik3926 2 года назад

You have little bits of leather, that works, but what about a jacket? This would be impractical.

@JamesBerry 2 года назад

Yeah, unfortunately I can't recommend trying this with bigger pieces.

@patlyn6784 2 года назад

Just soak the coffee grounds in rubbing alcohol then strain. And store in a jar plus side don’t go bad

@JamesBerry 2 года назад

Oooooh I need to test that :o

@tolgadn Год назад

this is an amazing experiment thank you for your work. liked & subbed

@JamesBerry Год назад

Thanks, glad this helped :) I've since learnt that you can get much better results using ground coffee and letting the leather sit.

@jsimo1431 2 года назад

thank you very much for making this video! answered all my questions. i like the wallets you made too! cool design.

@JamesBerry 2 года назад

Glad this helped :)

@pridntfant 2 года назад

What thread are u using ?

@efanyuliyanto5055 4 года назад

How to remove TEA stain on shoes leather?

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

I'm afraid I don't have the answer to that.

@anubhavsatyapragy2249 4 года назад

wouldn't the colour comes out or fades...

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Possibly over time yes. I think the wax polish will help though in keeping it in quite well, plus, as another has mentioned in the comments, this is more like getting a head-start on the patina more than dying the leather.

@chillrick2602 3 года назад

Does it retain the coffee smell very long after?

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Sadly it didn't... Wish I could have kept the smell, that's part of the attraction of the whole process x)

@jjwmacdo 4 года назад

waterstain is not a dye, nor a "stain". It's a paint.

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

That's very true, got myself muddled up while doing the commentary for this. Thanks for pointing this out!

@ekolokasi 4 года назад

Its a cool experiment!! I think i would try to do the same thing as you did😃

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

Thanks Ridwan, hope you enjoy having fun with this as much as I did :)

@TelishaYah 3 года назад

The darker colors looked the best. heh heh heh.

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Hahah I agree :) I was sad to see it go as it had such a nice rich color to it. Turns out I probably have to test different coffee staining methods..

@rouncewell7038 4 года назад

I've started using eco-flo waterstain and I'm having trouble getting consistent colors. Do you always oil the leather with neatsfoot before you apply the water stain and do you apply any finish? Either way, thanks for sharing this coffee staining guide!

@JamesBerry 4 года назад

I also used to have a lot of trouble getting consistent colours (and still do)... all I can suggest is a lot of trial and error and also to dilute your dies so you can add in several coats until you reach the desired colour. I always add neatsfoot oil or wet slightly beforehand as I believe this helps absorb the dies in a more natural way (though this is just my gut feeling and I may be wrong... still learning).

@rouncewell7038 4 года назад

@@JamesBerry These water dyes are nice because they don't rub off .. but yeah, color consistency has been difficult! Thanks for the advice, I'll do some testing!

@ahmadyaqout1068 Год назад

The color can go away easily

@JamesBerry Год назад

It can indeed but it's a fun and easy way to get some different colors into your leather.

@asmi227 3 года назад

I want to stain a real leather product, it's lightly stained though in it's pictures online it was darker in colour and evenly stained. It's a sling bag, it might happen that the person I am supposed to gift it to spills water or something on it, so my question is should I dye it with this method or some other way?

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

If you're not sure how this will last long term (and that's important to you) I would recommend using alcohol based dies and a good coat of protective wax. I have a tutorial on dying leathers here if you want: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sejh2V_eJfs.html

@asmi227 3 года назад

@@JamesBerry thanks a lot james, I care because that bag is a gift and it won't be mine to take care of it so if the dyes come off due to any reason the person I'll gift it to would think that I gifted him something cheap, which is not true, it's good leather, still the staining didn't came like it should have been like it was shown in the product's picture.

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

@@asmi227 Whatever you do make sure to use acetone to remove anything that could be on the surface. This will dry out the leather but allows the dye to really penetrate evenly. And always test on a small area that's not visible first (when possible).

@asmi227 3 года назад

@@JamesBerry That's a great advice, thank you so much for all the help james 🙏🏼😊

@benjaminpastrana9662 2 года назад

what about the smell? 🤓

@JamesBerry 2 года назад

Smells insane ;)

@DavidDiNatale 3 года назад

dommage pour la version très foncée à base de café que le cuir devienne si raide et cassant car la couleur est vraiment top ! Aujourd'hui je vais me lancer sur un repoussage (après m'être entraîné "difficilement" sur un vieux bout de cuir TV trop fin) et je vais le teinter une fois fini. D'après un essai fait hier, l'huile de lin ça marche bien et donne une teinte entre "ta version café" et teinture fiebings. Un bon compris je pense. Par contre une fois teinté comme tu l'as fait, tu utilises un produit spécifique pour "fixer" la teinture ? Je n'ai encore jamais fais de teinture pour un produit fini et je me demande si c'est nécessaire surtout dans mon cas où je vais juste "huilé" le cuir (sans le saturer évidement) et qu'avec le temps le cuir va se patiner. En tout cas voir des vidéos "expériences" c'est toujours sympa et ça peu donner des idées pour améliorer l'idée de base ^^

@JamesBerry 3 года назад

Depuis cette vidéo j'ai retesté quelques fois et je te conseillerais de ne pas utiliser du café instantané (bourré de sucre) mais plutôt de laisser ton cuir submergé dans un bocal d'eau avec du café moulu quelques jours. A priori ça marche tout aussi bien mais sans durcir trop le cuir comme ce qui m'est arrivé ici. Une fois teinté perso j'utilise de la cire de chez Saphir pour évider de perdre la couleur. Beaucoup de ricains disent préférer un produit conçu spécialement par contre comme le "Eco-Seal" ou autre. Je n'ai jamais testé.

@DavidDiNatale 3 года назад

@@JamesBerry merci pour ton retour ! j'ai pas de café instantané par contre beaucoup de mare de café (vu tout ce que je bois avec ma machine à grain). Je vais regardé pour cette cire Saphir, vu toute l'éloge que tu fais sur leurs produits je pense que ça doit être de la bonne ^^ Merci encore ;)