Always loved this scene both for seeing their ways of communicating past the language barrier, and out of amusement at Stands With A Fist. Every time Kicking Bird gets impatient she’s almost like “Shut up and let me translate!”
This movie changed my life for the better. It opened my eyes to humility, patience and love for each other. It gave me a sense of direction in my life and the possibilities that can happen.
This film ... for me is one of those perfect films. Totally endearing and tender and brave ... Kevin and all involved in this gave such a heartful gift by making this film.
the music soundtrack to this movie...omg makes my eyes roll back into my skull its so beautiful. i downloaded 20 years ago, and it's still soothing to my soul
The acting on all fronts here is absolutely incredible. This particular scene puts Costner in the shoes of the foreigner, HE'S the one looking around as if in an Alien environment COMPLETELY out of his depth. Absolutely brilliant scene here from all.
The so called "civil" war left a scar... people from the east packed their wagons headed to west to bring their troubles and disease...saw beautiful country and arrogantly took it. Disagree? Go ask the few surviving Utes how they feel about the fucking Mormons.
Stands with a fist's eyes fill with tears when she is asked her name because she knows this is not her original name and it brings back pain of the memory of her family being killed and the life she lost.
Let's not forget she's also struggling like hell to be translator for a language and people she left behind her long, long ago. She didn't want to do it in the first place, and now she's trying way too hard to please Kicking Bird and establish communications with a potential ally or enemy, to do her duty for her tribe with a people she wants nothing to do with.
@@NightRunner417 yeah, I agree. I interpreted it that she was just trying really hard to remember how to say things in English, and how to say it correct with the grammar and whatnot. Plus she's been with the Lakota long enough that she's adopted their ways and feels comfortable in them, she didn't even want to leave them & was initially scared of John because of the idea that he might take her away. Lakota people would traditionally have multiple names throughout their lifetime that they might get for different deeds or things they did, or habits, or their personality. Names were basically transitional throughout your life & you very likely in most cases weren't going to keep using the name you were born with. Chief Sitting Bull was born with the name "Jumping Badger", for example. So with that in mind, & with Stands With A Fist understanding her life as essentially a now Lakota woman, I don't think she'd even be sad that she's not using her original English name or if she potentially can't remember it, I think by now she'd likely understand or think of it just as an older "baby" name that was switched out for another one because of a transition in her life. Even John himself later declares that his name is "Dances With Wolves" at first when he's found by his fellow soldiers, and he wasn't with them as long.
@@jarlnils435 More so by this point in her life, I would think. Her birth name and her childhood life are long ago and far away for her now. Her Lakota name is much more "her" than her distant past.
I saw this movie for the first time in middle school. (Either sixth or eighth) back then I still didn’t know actors and actresses were a thing. I thought stands with a fist was played by the woman who played Marian in Indiana Jones
It’s a great scene about language in a film which often has that theme, but at no point does he use their own actual names, just the English translation. Still good that it was made in an attempt to use the native language in a time when we wouldn’t make films like that.
I've never understood why Stands With A Fist has hair styled like it was the 1980's, instead of wearing it in the same style as the people she was living with.
I think when Dunbar met her , she was mourning for her husband's death and as an Indian mourning custom she had her hair cut short (the same custom is met in other cultures , too). That's why her hair is shorter than the other women's hair.
She's European, so she has the Caucasian hair type. Native Americans are Eurasians (= small amount of Caucasian DNA + large amount of Sinoid (East Asian) DNA in their case). So their hair type most closely resembles Sinoid hair, and if you've ever felt the difference, you know that Sinoid hair is much heavier and tougher than Caucasian hair. Which means, it naturally straightens out, when you just let it hang loosely. Stands with a fist is probably wearing it exactly the same way as the other women of her group, but because she's racially different and her hair isn't as heavy, it bounces and curls up, while theirs is just very straight and smooth. When I visited Japan, a friend's aunt (Sinoid) tried to help me with a hair stick, because my hair kept slipping out of the knot and I didn't know how to fix it properly. She touched my (Caucasian) hair, immediately pulled her hand back, as if she'd gotten burnt and screamed, "It's like wool! This is no human hair! Are you wearing a wig?!?!?!" 😅🤣
“Sits For A Blow Dry” might be closer…I liked Mary McDonnell in this, but tweezers, bangs and teasing don’t exactly scream 19th-century Native American
She can say all these other complex words but can’t say her name stands with fist? I rolled my eyes as a 13 year old watching this…and still rolling my eyes at 45
Where do you think the native Americans came from? They are related to tribes in Siberia. They walked across the Bering land bridge during the last ice age when the sea was lower.
Wrong! Hello was used in the US in publications as early as 1829. Just because Bell used it doesn't mean it originated with him. Wikipedia has a good article on its germanic origin.
And most certainly you have no idea about how historians work. I highly recommend you two channels: Voices from the Past, where original sources are read (so you see that history isn't just an opinion), and The History Guy (so you see how an historian looks like). Then, let the algorithm do its thing.
I'm not a huge fan of this film. Though the cinematography is terrific, the story is a little weak and the characters do not stick. But I like this scene a lot, and Mary McDonnell plays it very convincingly. Hers is the most interesting character in the movie.
