Star Citizen: Should you buy the Origin 400i? 

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I've just realised that one of my goals in Star Citizen is to own every Origin ship.

Seeing the careful thought and design of the interior space makes me itch for a Connie gold standard rework of basically the entire front interior crew area of the Connie. The Connie was the first ship I got really excited about way back when it was announced, and I love the look of the Connie, but these new ships really show how much cig has learned about ship design

Very nice tour! I would recommend the random to stay on his ship next time, he kept getting in the way of the tour.

I got this because I wanted a ship that feels more home-like. I've just been enjoying taking it to random places and opening loot boxes then storing it on the ship. for those purposes its great, it has a nice interior for long QT times and a really good fuel economy when in atmo. IMO the constellation and cutlass heck even the msr all have interiors that I always just ran past because they were so practical, ship interiors is a big deal in this patch because of the inventory and I feel like I can RP the star fleet captain on a budget with this ship lol

Hey you have a small error at the start of the video. Pre-sale is not warbond only, you can buy it with credits. It's $250.

Personally I see this ship becoming an excellent drug smuggling vessel. It's fast, meant for running away with the back facing turrets. The smaller cargo bay is actually useful for moving drugs because you can't buy huge bulk anyway. Maybe I'm just looking through rose tented glasses but this ship seems almost too perfect for the aspiring smuggler like myself.

I see it more as a competitor to the Dur It’s a nice toy hauler, for a fun weekend with a bike and a cyclone Good for priority cargo Fun for role playing

To me, it seems the application is exactly what they showed in the demo... get in covertly... snag some loot, get out covertly. This ship is perfect for a 3 man crew with such missions.

To me this feels like what the MSR *should* have been. It's size is appropriate for a crew of 1-3, it's not over-engineered (*cough* smuggletunnels *cough*), and having the bike bay not take up cargo space is good, and it fits nicely into that "can outrun what it can't outgun" design space where the lack of firepower compared to the Connie isn't a dealbreaker. It just FEELS more "Millennium Falcon" than either the Constellation or the MSR, and I could see it being a good bounty hunting vessel.

Like it a lot, I upgraded to it. Wish it came with the X1 though...

Thanks for posting this. It just looks cool. That's enough reason to purchase it. Yes there's sooo many other "reasons" why it's not as good as other ships, it's star citizen. All that other stuff isn't even real yet. We all bite the bait to take our money. Just enjoy it!!

It looks a lot like Darth Maul's ship, and it's well-stuffed with cool little niches and amenities. Good design - I wish they had packed the 600iE like this. And I'm so glad they brought back the old Freelancer stairs. I loved those weird things. They killed me a lot less than the ladder has. And yeah: having poked around in it, this is more a DUR competitor than a Connie competitor. Or somewhere between a DUR and Connie.

Despite being smaller, I honestly like this over the 600i

I just bought this ship. It’s the first real ship purchase I made since starting in may 2021. I kinda wanted a ship that was a bit more of an Aurora in my hanger. A good starting ship for when we get further wipes. A good ship that will let me make money but yet allows me to grow by getting better ships later. A good ship that is an all rounder and yet still let’s me play solo as well as multiplayer. A good ship that lets me taxi people in style and appeals to my aesthetics. The 400i covers all this. I knew it would and I really wanted it when I saw the first leaks around the start of the year.

Already bought, also the liberator too I hope CIG would rework the 600 before they gold standard it.

I look at the 400i as the ultimate solo ship, with plenty of storage, just blade the rear turrets for point defence and put fixed S4s on the nose, it has 32 missiles in the wings. Use it for smuggling, NPC bounty hunting and hopefully ROC mining, once CIG fixes the rear landing struts to make them longer so a ROC will fit. It will work great for mining, since it has a exploration scanner and mapping table. I like that it has long range because you will need it when Pyro is in the verse.

Very nice review. Despite what CIG says, I feel the 400i is closer to a Freelancer than a Conny. (firepower, storage) Except for the S3 shield of course. Still I think it is a very nice ship for touring the verse. I only wished the windows were a bigger and not so obstructed (struts / turret) Usually Origin ships have great visibility,

Traded in my msr for it!. I usually fly solo and was using my msr as a daily flyer, never traded in it or for combat. I feel the 400 is better for a solo daily flyer. More pilot firepower, and I think the msr has more space then needed for a solo ship. Plus I think the 400 is sexy!

Also remote turrets will be computer blade controllable in the future. Any ship with computer blades and a remote turret can set that turret to point defense assuming they use fast firing guns on that turret. So eventually this ship will be an amazing Solo ship.

It needs size 5 weapons for the pilot, I know it not a combat. But come on all the competition have s4 gimbal and s5 fix. This should have the same or a little bigger like maybe some proprietary gimbal system that use s5 on it or s5 gimbal and s6 fix.

This reminds me of padmes ship from episode 2 that she brings to tattoine. Loved that ship and have wanted something like it.

I love the feel of the ship. But I agree with most of what you say. I personally plan on using it as a solo ship which I can invite friends on. From that view, its better than a Connie especially the bike bay. Fighting power wise, I still think S5 hard points for the pilot would be better but it is not required. I would also argue a second M size computer could go a long way on an exploration ship, and it can be placed in its analogous position in the shield climate control area. Would go a long way I think. Anyways, thanks for the video!

I switched from a Constellation Aquila to this, but I did so for a few particular reasons. First and foremost, its speed, resilience, and very good rear-facing weaponry are a great combination for my style of play, which is focused on avoiding or escaping combat than engaging. With that in mind, I also do have a relatively large and diverse fleet, and I can thus sacrifice some of the versatility that I enjoyed in the Aquila, because I have, or will have, better available options if I choose to do something either more mercantile or combat-focused. For someone who can afford to lose that bit of utility because of a broader selection in the fleet, this is a good way to shave $60 or so off of your fleet's price to save for what's next, without really losing any capability. It's less appealing, I think, for someone with fewer ships to choose from.

Always enjoy your buying videos, thanks for doing these.

Origin in general gives me more Star Wars expanded universe vibes than it does Star Trek vibes. The 890, 600, and 400 all remind me of ships like the Jade Sabre and Lady Luck.

its not warbond only tho, can get both the standalone ship and a ccu with store credit too for $250

I think the thing people are forgetting is it's designated rather uniquely as an 'exploration/pathfinder' vessel. Outside of the Terrapin, there are no multi-crew capable 'pathfinder' vessels, which does give this a unique, albeit *very* niche use, assuming all the previous talk CIG has done about expedition versus pathfinder vessels holds true.

The Drake Bucc doesnt scream Star Wars to you? It is an X-wing without the seperating wings and with bigger engines.

I like the ship and think you are spot on with it being in between the cutlass and Andromeda. Frankly, it's a perfectly sized ship for comfortable, big, and soloable. That said I think you're way off by saying it's reasonably priced, it's warbond price is more than the corsair! You are definitely paying a luxury tax, it should be priced ~$150-175 imo

Great video! You answer most of the questions I had about the 400i.

It may be nearly as large as a Connie, but the percentage of the hull available for habitation is quite a bit smaller.

Fair points all around. It will really boil down to what exploration does.. The 400i will have the edge once escape pods get implemented, now that death of a spaceman is going in (the Connies don't have those), but some minor changes could have really made the 400i an actual contender against the Constellation-series. Upsize the forward guns by one, make the cargo area slightly larger (or let the cargo stack higher), and bump the 2 size 1 missile racks to a size 2. Oh, and the capacitors probably need some love (seriously, the pilot capacitors are really weak). Or, none of those and give it the AIR system! Of course, I strongly doubt those won't happen, but maybe it just boils down to them misspeaking. It's an excellent Cutlass/Freelancer competitor, and comparing it to the Connie is probably just a bad comparison outright.

Excellent update. Better than most who did similar reviews. Good job.

Great view, looking forward to your thoughts on the Anvil Liberator

In theory it is more solo-able, as if you get attacked you just full burn off in one direction, jump out of pilot seat and into gunner (not counting potential blades as they aren't in yet), and then unload on pursuer while the ships gains enough acceleration to outrun the threat, them jump back in pilot seat and quantum. Also, while it is not a stealth ship by any means, I feel like the the EM numbers will get tweaked so that it's pretty low for it's size, which means its more likely to slip in and out than a Connie.

The 400 seems like it would smell like a brand new refrigerator.

im gunna use to do delivery missions xD that front will be handy for placeing boxes

Got this '415P' as soon a it went on sale Saturday

Everyone misses what this ship is. Great range, scanners and fast ground vehicle. It fits perfectly between the durr and Aquila.

Looks like that X1 storage could fit a cryo pod or an unconscious bounty with no risk to the pilot or crew.

I got one because I think it has a unique look and I really like the stairs, not much of a Origin fan tho...

Great demos of the bike container and getting a Cyclone in.

I could see using this as a transport for ground racing vehicles. Thnx for the video.

I had upgraded my SRV (LTI) to this with a payout of $70.0 usd, but I was disappointed a 85X wouldn't fit and contemplated returning it (if possible)? Now seeing the Cyclone fit inside (I have a TR) and with a impulsive purchase of skins I'd made, I'm thinking now it may, with the right weapons, adjustments and upgrades (inc. cards for the turrets) make a sleek long duration patrol ship?

It's funny you mentioned Star Wars! I am obsessed with the aesthetic of the ships from Naboo, and this manufacturer is the closest I'll probably ever get to that sleek, metallic style.

I just missed this ship on sale. I should have picked it up. I really think it looks so much better than the other Origin ships.

One advantage it has over the Corsair/Connie is it will be much more of a task to switch back and forth between ground vehicle's and cargo on shared grids in the future. You vehicle may be systems away or you may not have a place to store it when you need the cargo space.

My only wish for this ship is that it would be capable of carrying a ROC

I like it in that it's the first Origin ship that doesn't go overboard with the luxury bit. Rather, it's a smartly laid-out / efficient design that has a bright, clean and professional look to it that offers a reasonable contrast to the many militaristic or utilitarian designs we see so much. It's just a sharp and reasonable exploration/general purpose all-rounder. I am surprised they didn't use the AIR Flow technology that was promoted with the 100 series. It supposedly makes Origin ships very fuel efficient. I wonder if this ship is a gas guzzler? Fuel efficiency is a big +, especially for an explorer.

Has strong hints of Lando's Lady Luck, so yeah definately starwars feel.

I’m torn… I have this but if the Phoenix goes up on sale again, I have a feeling I might end up trading in. The snub AND rover without having to parallel park like a pro is definitely a plus

What does impress me with the 400i and is a buying reason for me is the interior! I really liek itand its a nice flying apartment, which will be my home, when its ingame with 3.15. can't wait to fly it!

Bought the Connie and the 400i, can't wait for next patch!

Thanks for sharing.

All depends on what you want to do, do you want a nice ship to explore And you already have a fighter or multi crew ship that maybe you can go with adding this one. If you have only one ship and want to upgrade I would wait

Do we know already if we can use the hidden storage compartments in the back of the ship?

I met two guys once, both were wealthy, both had boats. One was a sail guy, one was a power guy. Sail guy asks power guy “how much did it cost you to go from (a) to (b)?” Power guy says “11 hours.” He was a wedding photographer who showed up to a gig in a Ferrari. When you fly origin, you don’t care about the cost, you care about how you look when you get there. A more practical man has a ship that is more self sufficient and can more reliably travel greater distances in tougher seas.

Too late with the buyer's guide, I upgraded my Defender last night! 😆

Already did. 🤣 Melted my MSR to pay for it and so far I'm in love.

At first I was skeptical about external design, interiors and usefulness, but now Im a dedicated fan of this ship. One of the best realisation of interior structure, sleek "yacht" design. This ship is not huge, but it has 3 (!) entry points - cargo, front ramp and via dock (also there is a separated lift for bike), very fast ship (for its size) - just a little bit slower than racing ships. The only thing that will make me swap it is good rework of 600i

I love this ship a lot more than I thought I would

"This is the first ship that really screams Star Wars" MSR: am I a joke to you?

Wonder if CIG will eventually give the 400i different variants…. Would love to see a racing version.

Connie can defend itself even without a crew. The 400i looks like it will be pretty much defenceless. The 2 size 4 hardpoints and the small compliment of missiles can’t really do much if it can’t keep the nose on target. The things it can keep a nose on target are too powerful for those weapons to be too much threat.

Wish you could access the X1 in the ship, a small corridor would be enough!

The bike lift on the 400i should rotate offset 45 degrees to the right toward the bottom of its downward travel. To help with loading the bike and get it away from the stairs and centerline of the ship.

Its a little less than a connie but a bit more than a max. The design is nice...but some detail should have been taken to make sure that it can fit everything up to cyclones in the main elevator...I like it. Wish the freelancers still had those stairs. Great vid, STL! love your insights. Thanks!

I think CIG shouldn't have compared the 400i to the Connie, MSR or the Corsair as it just doesn't seem to be designed to compete. It's a big Cutlass Black with a luxurious interior and is only worth the money if you want it as a recreational or light exploration/sightseeing kind of vehicle. Don't buy it if you expect a solid allrounder as any other allrounder in that price-class will do it much better. I treat mine as a Luxury Space Camper to take 2 friends and my bike on a roadtrip with and I love it for that.

Great analysis. I do think that the 400i strikes a very precise balance that will pay off when we are more fleshed out gameplay for exploration. To me the lower crew requirements and design can turn out very valuable to maintain efficiency. Definitely not designed for aggression though.

when the ranger comes out this ship can be a very good calvary drop ship lol you can lift 1 or 2 in front and probably fit 10 in the rear because the bikes are so tiny that they will drive off the elevator and park on the walk paths

From what I've read the flight characteristics are not final. The 400i is supposed be a little faster or more maneuverable than it is currently in the PTU, so that part of the comparison to the Constellation series may not be correct.

Something about how you mentioned the holo star chart made me want it to be capable of letting us play Dejarik, and now I can't unsee that.

I wonder if they still plan on external shield emitters for all ships cuz so far only the redeemer has them

It would have been nice if the bike bay could have been used as additional cargo storage, if you didn't want to take a bike.

God even the 400! got one! Please someone tell me where I can find the gravity sphere in the Carrack. It feels that they totally forgot to put it in and it's a really big design mistake.

Seems to me for a Origin ship, there should be a option to lower the bike too from where you lower the stairs (and then preferably automatically close them when you drive off) instead of lowering the stairs, go to the front of the ship, lower the bike, go back to the base of the stairs to jump on (then drive off the platform, jump off and close everything and jump back on....). I hope in the future if the ship is powered on can just mobiglas/personal-menu-interface to open/close/lock our ship when were close to them similar to modern car keys, preferably also a power up/down engines for quick take-off as one makes their way though the ship. Otherwise i like the ship.... minus origins remote turrets, i really hope those types of remote turrets will fold away when not in use in the future, they're really ugly and breaks the origin aesthetic when you got instruments of war as centerpieces outside many big windows on your fancy-crafts.

No one talks about the Ion / Inferno. Is it in PTU? Is it worth it? I own one and thinking of melting it for a C2 for cargo running. Please let me know

Must ... have ... all the ships so i would say yes to this one, i like the looks of it, looks in part like a small 890J with some differences but a fairly nice looking ship, interior is nice to, sure i only own the Andromeda so not much luxury there but it is okay.

I came very close to upgrading my Taurus for this ship but after looking at what fits in the 400i I just couldn't move foward. The connie is looking very old now compared to newer ships like this one and it has a lot of flaws yes but as for the Taurus especially, I don't think anything beats it at this price range. I paid it 150$ back in 2017 I think and I still don't regret it. I had the Andromeda as a loaner ship for a while and now, even the Taurus can be very surprising in combat. The huge advantage I have from it it's the cargo where I can fit my Ursa Rover along with 2 ROCS and I can still walk around them and have a small unscanable cargo area in the back of the ship. I really hope CIG revisits the Connies to fix the few flaws it has like the floating gears if an engine is blown away or all the lost space between the turrets and the living area which could be upgraded. As for the rest I don't this it needs to be changed but these minor changes would be more than welcome. Anyway, thanks for the 400i review which backs my decision to stay in the RSI team ;) Cheers !!

Love the content! The video was hard to follow because what you were showing on screen was not what you were talking about

Would have been nice to have the tour of ship sync with narration.

I love the way it looks, if it was in black it would like a sith ship like Darth maul. torn between this and the msr for a daily driver, but I think the msr just offers more utilities.

it looks like the Darth whats-his-face from star wars. I'm only looking forward to seeing the Corsair with a gritty Drake interior. I want the Herald interior expanded with more lockers and cargo and it would be what I want.

Nice, thanks for the test. Personally, the 400i doesnt really fit my taste. But i think i am starting to see a trend here with the Hull B versus Railen as another example. The ship developers currently seem to be into making the more luxurious alternatives

I like it but somebody said it looks like Sebulba and now I can't unsee it.

Seems to me like a space Winnebago. Something you can take out to the wilderness for a weekend camping or road trip.

Agreed, screams Star Wars and is similar to what I had in my head as a kid for Lando's "Lady Luck" until I saw a picture of it...

Connie does things like 2.5 times better than the 400i weapons wise, not just a little. This is before taking in the consideration of the tiny weapon capacitors 400i has.

the 400 looks like a cool ship... but maybe an earn in game ship. thoughts on the Liberator?

The teased ship was the Origin 404.

This was on the store for about 8 seconds before it landed in my hanger.

Hey STL, we need that Should You Buy Liberator video ! :)

Basically its 315p with a shower and ground vehicle on board option and with no tractor beam. Bigger size also allows extended performance in many aspects but key differences are only these three. Lol.

I will totally stow bounties in the X1 bay.

The only thing I don't like about the 400i are the windows. A good portion of two windows let you look out onto the wonderful view of... an exterior wall. The window in the main living space is... underwhelming, to say the least. I also would have expected a skylight on the bridge or at least the living area. If there's one thing I've come to expect from Origin ships, it's expansive, largely unobstructed view from those spaces. The 100i has a great view from the cockpit. The 300i has a great view from the cockpit and a skylight. 600i just has great views. The 890 Jump has great views from all communal passenger areas, and a good view from the bridge.

Why is the belly turret view upside down ?

Question! 400i can fit the M12?

This thing reminds of a sailboat like the 890 reminds me of a yacht

Where are the missle wracks located? Not seen a single video that shows them off