Oh, yeah, thats a really nice detail the VFX artists put in there. I also really like the bit in Picard where the warp nacelle gets sliced off, because thats what phasers canonically do. Disruptors and phasers are pretty much the same thing, but one is less precise and more "powerful" while the other is more of a scalpel, a precision weapon that can because of this also be used as a very effective tool, not just a weapon. Fitting for Starfleet. Both supposedly work by disrupting molecular bonds, which is also why they can just vaporize someone and why outside the shields ships are barely armored. Armor does not matter against phasers because most materials you could realistically make it from are just as susceptible to it as any other, or impact the effectiveness so little the extra mass is more detrimental than the benefit of what little amount of added protection it would grant. Also why in Star Trek the bridges position isn't all that important because with the way the weapons work burying it in the ship would only be marginally effective. Especially with the power plant that uses antimatter added in, that if destabilized turns the ship into it's constituent energy and particles.
I was disappointed that the only time the Enterprise fired phasers in ANY of the TOS films was in Wrath of Khan. I wanted to see those phasers GO when I was a kid!
@@EdgardoCervantesP seemed like trashing Cardassian warships was about all the writers for Galaxy-class battles would allow....otherwise it appeared to be written with quite the glass jaw
As a young child in the 1980s, I was completely awed by the phaser effects and the hits and damage effects in Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan. They're still my favorite overall.
That mechanical sound before the Phaser actually fires adds reality to it IMHO - transferring that amount of energy you here it in Industrial equipment from the relays all the time especially when motors spin up.
Its so weird seeing the Ent-D kick ass in TNG and then seeing her practically going down without a fight in _Generations._ I'm not against the ship getting destroyed in the movie, mind you. It led to that awesome crash-scene and to the introduction of the Ent-E in the next movie, arguably one of my favourite Ships of the entire Franchise. That she was done in by a lowly and outdated Bird of Prey is what bugs me. Had the opponent been a Vor'cha-class, already a dangerous opponent which the Enterprise had been at a serious disadvantage without Shields, would have been far better.
@@EdgardoCervantesP Still the enterprise could have fired all weapons at full. They even had time to come up with some fancy plan to trigger the cloak. Besides, they could have tried to remodulate frequencies or, if useless anyway, all power from shields to weapons.
@@danielhausser8038 that's what I was thinking....Riker shouldn't've just let the ship get pounded like that....after the first volley the return volley from the Enterprise with full phasers should've been enough to still vaporize the outdated BoP....long before any weapons fire from the BoP would've started impacting the Enterprise's warp core....I personally would've liked to see it last longer....maybe make an appearance in the Dominion War along with other Galaxies upgraded to the 3-nacelled beast of a dreadnought you see in "All Good Things..." as I would've liked to see the phaser lance on one of those rip apart a Dominion warship the same way it ripped apart that Negh'Var
I don't like those pew pew phasers we get in Picard, Discovery and the Kelvin timeline. I still want beams concerning both ships phasers and hand ones.
Both the Defiant and refit Enterprise used pulse phasers of one variety or another, however the sound design and visual impact helped sell the destructive nature of the weapons. Picard, Discovery, and the Kelvin timelines visual and sound design generally fails to achieve this, making it appear as if the ships are lobbing multi-colored droplets of rain at one another.
Nor should you. Kurtzman Trek's failure to adhere to the special history and look of Star Trek is one of the many reasons why his offerings suck. Instead of honoring the rich legacy of the franchise, he and his accomplice JJ Abrams have fought to undermine it by reducing it to the level of generic space franchise. The look, and sound, of his phasers could be from one of any of the generic sci-fi shows out there. It is shameful.
I agree with you, but burst phasers aren't new to Star Trek. The Motion Picture era films were burst phasers, albeit the effect looked almost beamlike, and the Enterprise-D's "antimatter spread", despite it's weird name, really just looked like they recalibrated the main dorsal phaser array to shoot pulses, like a big multitargeting turret. As for handheld weapons, the Type 3 phaser and the phaser compression rifle are seen across Voyager and the TNG movies firing both beams and pulses. There's no reason to think they're not configurable.
Scotty: "The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank!" Great video. If there is a "Persian flaw," it's in the description; you describe Star Trek II being the only TOS movie to use phasers as a "fun fact." A fact for sure, but not a fun one. Then again, they might have used subpar phaser effects in the other TOS movies (almost for certain in Star Trek V), so maybe we were lucky. Incidentally, many of my favorite scenes used phasers. Of the ones featured, the Constellation drawing off the Planet Killer, the Enterprise-D destroying the Bird-of-Prey, the Defiant fighting the Lakota, and Voyager finding the Vidiian ship are among my personal favorites.
The Galaxy Class is such a bad ass ship! Big. Powerful. Awesome! Still my most favorite ship in all of Star Trek! In the DS9 sequence, those Galaxy Class ships just kicked serious butt and took names! And she's one gorgeous ship as well!!
I still find it so bizarre that the production teams were able to keep the design of federation phaser tech more or less consistent from 1987-2005, even with Enterprise accurately matching TOS phasers. And yet the movies and series over the last decade or so have had such horrible visual and sound design for them. The Lower Decks and Prodigy animated series have been a saving grace for a return to norm.
@@DanielBrown-sn9op But don't you think Nimoy Spock would come up with a phaser or torpedo resonant frequency that would sober all the magic shroom spores? Or a dampening field to block their navigation? To turn a phrase: "I find it wise never to underestimate Mr. Spock's resourcefulness."
@@DanielBrown-sn9op It isn't accidentally left out. Unfortunately, this channel seems to belong to one of those people who is perpetually ass mad about Discovery.
@@calebfogler2145 Yeah they used them only in the TOS films. I always felt they should have kept the phasers looking like that in TNG, DS9, Voyager and TNG filma. The phasers in Picard and Discovery feel to much like the blaster bolts in Star Wars.
@@IgnatiaWildsmith1227 Watch the original series Star Trek. They are also steady beam phasers. It's only in the TOS films like Wrath of Khan that they use phasers that look cool like that. Discovery era do not use beam phasers either and that is 10 years before Kirk took over as captain of the Entetorise.
I think the thing I love about beam phasers, and even the Defiant's cannons, is how unique they feel compared to most other sci fi. I mean, I'm a Star Wars fan over Star Trek, but ship battles in the Next Gen era just...hit different. They're satisfying to watch.
I love the touch that ToS ships used blue phasers because I'm assuming they got them from the Andorians. Vulcan warp drives, Andorian weapons, and Human ship designs. I'm guessing the Tellurites contributed something as well, probably either the shields or maybe improved material science for the hulls.
Fantastic! Super deal. The best part was of the Defiant shots followed by DS9 lighting up the Quadrant....lol. many thanx. Oh, my favorite is watching a Steam runner acting like a "Pez" photon torpedo dispenser 😉
Not bad! I wish you'd showcased the original TOS phaser effects along with the remastered versions, since that was the gold standard for phasers for twenty years before TNG came along. You also missed the JJ Abrams films and Discovery, whose very different phaser styles are an interesting contrast to the most traditional long beams (more akin to the Defiant type phasers in DS9) and worthy of inclusion.
This was awesome! Would love to see one for torpedoes! Also, I always loved how quantum torpedoes sounded in First Contact but as far as I know, the sound was never used again and was replaced. Anyone know why?
My favourite by far is Wrath of Khan's phasers. Instead of the earlier and oddly later beam style, these were pulses of phaser fire that screeched and cut through hulls. They sounded and felt deadly. It's a shame they never used them again. For me it remains the best ship duel in Star Trek history.
I love the sound and effects for phasers and photon torpedoes in TOS and the 90s Treks. Unlike Star Wars, Star Trek lacks consistency and they keep changing sound/weapon effects with each new entry. Who knows why?
The phaser hits in insurrection and all good things are in my mind the most accurate. They are extremely powerful and focused, punching a narrow but deep hole in the enemy ship.
In Picard too, slicing off parts of a ship. Which considering how they are supposed to work, destabilizing molecular bonds (why armor isn´t a thing in Star Trek, wouldn't really work against that), is exactly what they should do.
@@theexchipmunk Armor *is* a thing in trek, however unless you mean armor for individuals then yes I agree. But DS9 and the TNG movies introduced ablative hull armor technology.
I would have had the phaser burst from TNG's THE ARSENAL OF FREEDOM since it was a pretty good shot and the first use of the 1701-D's phasers in the show (not counting the energy beam in FARPOINT).
And the JJ Star Trek movies! The scene where the Enterprise warps in to save Spock was pretty epic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FXy_DO6IZOA.html
I like Discovery just fine, but their phasers in seasons 1 and 2 sounded like a stick hitting taut cellophane. Not powerful at all. Pike's Enterprise phasers scratched that itch.
Out of the "Golden Age" TNG- Best "Badass and use of weaponry scenes" DS9- Best "Battle Shows" / elongated battle scenes VOY- Best Battle SFX & VFX Quality
Oh the poor D, one good shot was all it could do, one shot and the overly complicated Phaser array (whose idea was that?) fuses, the power couplings blow out and poor Geordi is left swimming in escaping coolant, For all that Tech the D was so inadaquate when it came to a fight; no wonder they were retired. Me, i'd rather have a squadron of Defiant class ships instead on One Galaxy class but even they had a flaw, the E mind you? Much better, Starfleet were finally getting there thanks to Scotty....But imagine if you will a Battlestar with a full array of Phaser, photon's and quantum torps, the Defiant's close in pulsar phasers, shields and a full air wing.....now that would be more like it.
yeah they could've used a few war carrier vessels with point defense pulse phasers fielding at least Galaxy-class firepower, some anti-proton cannons (that probably even combined wouldn't be even half the power of the doomsday weapon) and some transphasic torpedoes for the really tough nuts and a full complement of fighter craft....both light one-man fighters and 3-man heavy fighters like the ones the Maquis favored oh and both shields that could refract a lot of the energy from enemy weapons fire AND the badass armor Voyager sported in "Endgame".....warships like that might've made even the Husnock think twice before invading
You know I wish they would bring Robin Curtis back as a much older Savik. Even if just in Lower Decks animated and also catch up on Valaris's prison sentence since Star Trek 6.
Sadly we never get a shot of DS9 being surrounded by either Klingons or Dominion Forces and firing its weapons in all directions (so showing the whole beast so to speak!) :)
Reminded of how the ships are a character themselves, I knew I wouldn't be liking the TNG films too much when as a first order of business they destroyed the Enterprise D.
Kelvin Timeline Starships are heavily armed even for a science and exploration ship like the Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser USS Enterprise NCC-1701. It has 6 Phaser Banks Top and Bottom (2 Phase Emitters Per Bank) for Offense, 6 Pulse Phaser Banks (Twin Pulse Emitters, 2 Per Bank) for Point Defense + 4 Torpedo Tubes ( 2 Proton, 2 Photon) a proper combat ship in a Militaristic Starfleet and Federation meanwhile the Prime Timeline has minimum weapons configuration a proper exploration vessel.
I wonder why Discovery is missing from this list? Because they didn't have regular cool Star Trek phasers, they had Star Wars-like PEW PEW guns instead!
Good video, but... the 'early' phaser shots you use are from the Remastered series, where modern tech modernized both the shots and the sounds. The first time we got to see actual phaser BEAMS, they were red, pulsed slightly, and instead of the traditional whine we get today, it came out as a roaring ARRRR! ARRRRRH! Also remember that the weapon of choice in "Balance of Terror" were phasers set on proximity detonation, not photon torpedoes... mostly because the writers of these early episodes didn't know what a photon torpedo was yet. Unfortunately, the only way to find the red screaming phasers would be for someone to upload video from an old video tape of a pre-Remastered edition, like if someone were to have a copy of the Columbia House Video version which had this version. The issue is with the Remasters AND their 'Restored' non-edited variants, since the so-called non-editing is somewhat false, as my copies of these have cleaned up 'standard series' phasers and sound effects.
Yes, I am aware that the original phaser effects were different, but unfortunately, I do not have the pre-remastered version available. Thanks for watching.
@@JohnDiMarco check out Axanar........they do say in "Prelude to Axanar" that the Andorians were happy to supply the phasers for the then brand new Ares-class ships during the 4 years war which is probably why TOS phasers were blue much of the time
A shame there's no Discovery. I can understand some people's feelings towards if if you only consider season 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 took the show in the direction it should have gone from the start and made it Trek. It's still a bit melodramatic (which I kind of like to be honest) and does have some very silly odd choices at times in writing, but on the whole it feels like Star Trek. Especially season 4 with its resolution with the 10-C. It's particularly interesting to me given how much I remember when DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise all came out and people would constantly go "oh but that's not real Star Trek!" Hell, people even did that to TNG, and yet we accept them all today. But that is my opinion. This is a very well put together showcase, thank you.
Discovery is absolute garbage. Kurtzman thinks he's being clever trampling over what has come before. Including the effects for phasers torpedoes and warp effects. Unimpressed
Can't believe you left out the battle against the Vuadwar from Voyager (in Dragon's Teeth), I think it's the best battle they ever did in that show. (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mwrCEgPcW6I.html)
I've always hated the phaser sound effects in The Wrath of Khan. The TNG-ENT sound effect is probably the best, offering a little more punch than the TOS sound but coming off less grating than the TWOK sound.
