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It would be easy to explain the inconsistency. Just say that "warp 9" is the power output of the engine, and that the travel time depends on the parts of space they're travelling through. e.g. it's 20 minutes, not 8, because there's stuff in the way (like a star) and they have to go around it. Or... subspace is messed up in that region so that has a drag effect on the ship....
The joke about Picard's hairline is the only thing I can really remember about this episode. The fakeout with Jason not really being his son makes for a flat experience, but of course they wouldn't introduce a real son this late in the series. You can almost feel the strain of getting these last few episodes out - I'm amazed All Good Things turned out as well as it did, really.
Funny enough they used the head of Frank Corsentino who played the original Bok in The Battle for the ferengi character Aramut in the point n click game, A Final Unity, which id like to see you do a rumination on someday
I might have missed something more specific in the episode but I never got the impression that this was Bok's plan from start to finish in a Vacuum. I always figured he'd been trying to find dirt on Picard, maybe figuring he'd find some former or even current love of his to use as his revenge. He finds out about the Vigo's, and that she is dead but her son is still alive but not Picard's. So he comes up with this convoluted plan to make Picard believe Jason is his son. I mean it's not as though Bok is a stranger to convoluted revenge plots.
I will state that Riker calling for shields to be up might simply be reflex. As for Damon Tok being in Picard's quarters, I simple rewrite of a hologram emitter, not necessarily a portalable one, but a stealth one none the less, was beamed aboard when he wasn't in the quarter, then it's just en encrypted subspace transmission to the emitter, with Damon Tok on the other location, appearing as a a hologram in Picard's quarters to talk to him, then the disappearance being the hologram simply being shut off.
I couldn't believe the trust the guy had in transporters, he's beamed up from mountain climbing. So gets back on the pad to beam back down standing in position as he was climbing the mountain, do you trust the transporter to get you back to the exact milimeter so you don't slip or loose your grip in the slightest? If you're off by a bit and you don't have your grip, you're dead. Can he even tense his muscle back up in the exact way so he has his grip? I doubt it!
I've always subscribed to the idea the the TNG warp scale is the warp factor to the power of 5, times the speed of light. While that's much, much, much faster than what's claimed here, I find it falls in line better given the actual distances being traversed, except in the case of Voyager, where they'd be trying to cross the galaxy at about warp 3.
3:20. And here's what bugs me, is in my head cannon this little random tidbit they throw in about how the Cardassian War effected this colony ends up making this an extrememly important 'world building' episode for Star Trek that ends up having really interesting story implications when you look at the fact that we are transitioning to DS9 where we finally get to see how deep the scars of the Cardassian War have really run. Keeping in mind that if you keep in mind Conspiracy we can see that the Cardassian War and all its ramifications, like this guys life, is in essence part of the after effect of Picard and Riker taking down the Conspiracy, which is politically destabilizing the entire region. When you think about it this way this episode is hella more interesting than it deserves.
I don't think Bok came up with his plan and then set out to find someone like Jason to implement it. I think he first found Jason while looking into Picard's life in search of some angle to get his revenge, and THEN built the whole estranged son scenario around him.
It’s frustrating Picard lived a whole life and had two children and a grandchild during that probe simulator episode also its the one with the flute.... So why is he asking Beverly parenting advise lol
I was looking at the list of Season 7 episodes that I actually like. - Attached - Parallels - The Pegasus - Lower Decks - All Good Things That's it. Five (or six, depending how you count All Good Things) out of 26 episodes.
I barely remember watching these the first time around. I would've been somewhere in high school and I guess I had other things on my mind, so hearing your summary watching this video was essentially my first time learning the plot of this episode. My first thought was, why not make it Riker's biological son (if you want Captain Picard to be the last Picard ... something I still take issue with btw; "Generations" should've ended with Jean Luc and Beverly Picard adopting a son and/or daughter to be the next Picard!). All they would've had to do would be to retcon that Will (sometime over the past seven years) asked Jean Luc to please please be godfather to any of his kids who might show up, and the episode could've still proceeded as written.
I know Lore has referenced Phil Farrand's Nitpickers Guide in the past. Was that what you were going for in discussing Bok's plan? I ask because that breakdown was almost beat for beat what Farrand had said about this episode in his book.
Do not get me wrong - i LOVE Lorerunner's videos on Star Trek. BUT ... this is one more time when it should be Lamentation. Anything better is a joke - only in my own opinion of course.
Hell they could have put Peter David, LA Marzule, or any of a handful of Trek pocket book authors. Adapted any of hundreds of books. Dumb premise. Why not attack Earth raze the Picard vineyard and home. Now that would cut Picard to the quick. And as far as dropping the man back where he came from its exactly what he asked for. Bring him to Earth? Set him up comfy? Why does he deserve to be taken from that world? Why not everyone else? Remember he does have a criminal record. Starfleet would not think to highly of Picard if he got involved. The Enterprise is not his personal yacht to rescue people from harsh conditions. Picard could quietly transfer stock in the winery.
I actually kind of like this one. Once you get past the utterly contrived and absurd set-up surrounding Bok's plan (seriously, why doesn't Bok just try to kill Picard with the subspace transporter?) it does have some really good character work for Picard. But what I love most is that it gives us an actual good use of the Ferengi as villains. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that this is the best use of the Ferengi TNG ever gave us. That's because they FINALLY are not presented as bumbling, incompetent fools. Bok, despite the ludicrous nature of this plan, is not a moron. Yes, he is insane and obsessive in his need for revenge. But, he's resourceful; he's intelligent; he's determined; he's not someone to be taken lightly. He's a force to be reckoned with. He also manages to be somewhat intimidating - thanks, no doubt, to the actor delivering a rather nice performance. Even the other Ferengi characters aren't caricatures anymore. The member of the Ferengi government isn't stupid. He's a jerk, but not stupid. The three Ferengi on Bok's bridge aren't morons either. Yes, they were easily duped by Bok. However, once Picard confronts them with evidence to the contrary, they immediately do the logical/rational thing. Now if we can just scrub any memory of the Ferengi "comedy" episodes from our minds, we'll be in good shape. 7/10
Season 7 was a mess. It's the one they had to sign the actors to because their contracts were up... "Do something with [X]..." maybe that's why they dumped all these loose/dead ends in season seven.
This episode I watched for the first time. …I got nothing. This is empty. You know what? I’ll come up with a way to fix the script. Bok just implies he knows where Picard’s son is, lets Picard find someone who fits the bill for him, steals him before they can run scans, and then have it be a cat and mouse game where Bok can just vanish somehow from place to place. I’m actually 100% down with Bok having access to a super transporter that’s ultra dangerous to use. He seems like he has access to a black market of super tech, and if you just add some niggles of “he set up a system at both ends, along with repeater probes in between to ferry him from one place to another.”.
I think you're way too harsh on this episode. The narrative cheat is a bit silly, but everything else I find easily justified. (Covered in other comments so I won't repeat it here.)
Thing is, people watch this for entertainment without too much thought... people don't start to analyze warp speeds across different sources, including something called a "technical manual". They just watch the show. Sure you got diehards who want to nitpick every detail and continuity but 99.9% of people watching Treks don't give it a second thought. In that regard these things aren't all that important. All that matters is that Warp 9 is "fast".
Shows that only want you to be entertained between pee breaks and commercials don't have things like codification of "warp drive". They have meager plots and paper thin characters. Sort of like how law and order doesn't require or care if you know the penal code of new york. Star trek and, say...Dune for example are deeper and reward long-term viewers with details. When they mess those up... it's annoying.
