I think this kind of dialogue works for Deadpool, since he’s aware that he’s in a movie. That doesn’t mean it works for Thor, Ant-Man, Dr Strange, and everyone else in the MCU.
Anyways, we both started blasting, only I started blasting sooner and when he was about to start blasting back he was full of blaster fire marks and the neural pathways connecting his brain to his fingers had all but disintegrated, and, long story short, I turned out the only one who actually started blasting.
@@jodgee2374 man on the nerd side it’s stupid since they’ve always flown but one the other hand it’s just fucking caveman humour 😂 “aguhuh! they are flying in the air! they fly now! 🤪”
And "they" are liars, because George isn't bad with dialogue; he just has his own distinct style of dialogue. And in Star Wars, that style works really well. It's when you force in a radically different style of dialgoue that things fall apart, as seen here.
I think it's more like "we're in a comic book movie, but we're ashamed of it, because comic books are nerdy. Therefore we must absolutely not take anything seriously. People will think we're cool if we're constantly mocking the source material. Comic books are dumb, right guys?"
It is a normal line, but only in the right context. The way it's used in the video is not the right context, because anyone with working eyesight probably already saw the walkers out in the open, and everyone knew to expect the imperials in the first place. To the audience the walkers would have been a big deal, because it hasn't seen them in the previous film, but in-universe the rebels know them well enough. So, context. The maker(s) of this edit are just poking fun.
When is this ever said in the mcu? I can only think of a somewhat similar line when tony notices fr strange seeing the 14 million outcomes in infinity war but its reworded. Maybe in wakamda forever when the americans find vibranium at the bottom of the icean vut again its reworded for drama not comedic like that lime is supposed to be. Coulson tells fury in the first Thor, we found it sir and camera pans to Thor's hammer. But its again played for dramatic effect not comedic
@@georgeoldsterd8994 you kinda missed the point. "Uhh guys?" And All of these lines in the vid are the kind that completely suck out the tension in a serious scene. That's the issue with Marvel, they can never drop the comedy.
Dude that Hoth scene with “Uhh guys? You might wanna see this” is so accurate it hurts. Thank GOD that movie was made before this kind of dialogue became popular
Darth Vader: "That is the system. And I'm sure Skywalker is with them. Set your course for the Hoth system. General Veers, prepare your men, and also, hit my tunes... it's time for the Empire... to Strike Back!" *Back in Black by AC/DC starts playing*
When Marvel used it as a spice it was fine, but now it’s all the dialogue. It’s like the people who made mcu didn’t realize most people like salt on their food but nobody wants to eat a handful of salt
The frustrating that about it is that Disney got the rights to the movies during the time when the MCU was still good, so it was very possible that they could've had good Star Wars sequels too. Instead, they ended up making the prequel trilogy look good by comparison.
I know! I'll play the longggg con! Hide 10000 smaller model Star Destroyers each with around 38000 crew, officers, troopers. Then they sit stationary in a hidden position for 25-35yr! Brilliant.
Yeah, that line was set up to... subvert expectations, but hear me out. It's not just subverting the expectation of what tone a Star War movie can possibly have, increasing the spectrum of galactic possibility. Most of the rest of the movie is the neo-rebels being held under an opressive siege by the neo-empire. So setting the not-empire up as a joke subverts that expectation. Until it gets subverted again and the first Empire turns out to actually be the joke all along!1!!!1111!! (I honestly like the movie and think that line was fine btw)
Marvel uses this sort of dialogue because they lack confidence in themselves. They think, What if a moment fails to produce the desired effect for the audience? By inserting these jokes, they can claim they were never trying to make the audience feel sadness, anger, awe, etc. They were just messing around. Makes me respect George Lucas's sincere writing more now.
I absolutely hate this "self conscious/meta" humor. It's an excuse for bad writing and it undercuts any moment of tension making marvel movies feel like a protracted stand up with too much special effects.
Remember that scene at the beginning of TFA when Kylo Ren came to raid and massacre a village and then a minute later when Po is being interrogated by Kylo he says "So WhO tAlKS FiRSt? I tAlk FirSt? YoU tALk FiRSt? iT's VeRY HarD To UndErsTanD YoU WiTH alL ThE...." I mean Star Wars is owned by the same company that owns Marvel anyway.
Eh, yeah the dialogue is a bit silly considering the circumstances but I see it as Poe trying to look tough when he's really scared and doesn't want to show it. I still get why that line rubs people the wrong way though
@@IARESMART8, regardless of that, the line is very clearly not of the style Star Wars typically uses, and that's why it's so noticeable and irritating. People in Star Wars just do not talk like this.
I half expected Kylo Ren to cast Sith lightning on Poe to shut him up, it would have made for a far more intimidating presence and establish that he is a no-nonsense entity and was well-trained in the dark-side of the Force.
@@IARESMART8 I mean, I get that, but it just doesn't make sense to pretend to not be even a little scared in a situation where you might be about to get tortured or killed. It maybe makes sense if you're being interrogated by a minor imperial official who can't do anything much worse than give you a speeding ticket, but if you're talking to a Sith your message should be more about conveying that you're prepared to withstand pain and to die with dignity if need be, rather than acting like you think the whole thing is a joke. He could say something more like "if you expect me to talk, then I expect you to work much harder than this." Still kinda flippant and sassy, but at least it acknowledges the possibility of torture and I think it sounds a little more like something Obi-Wan or at least Han Solo might have said in a similar situation. The problem is that Poe sounds like an actor at the start of a scene in a movie where he knows he's a main character who's not dying anytime soon, instead of sounding like a man who knows his next words might be his last.
Some of the actual Marvel films do it fine like Thor Ragnarok because the actors are so good at delivering it. The problem is that every dumb suit and their mom has decided to copy the writing style and blindly apply it to their IP.
It was ok when that was one or two or three movies, its ok to have "marvel dialogue" nobody complained during the early infinity saga,but when its EVERY MOVIE including movies that absolutely shouldnt have it really is what made it an insult.
"The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural." "You mean, like... butt stuff?" "..." "It's butt stuff, right?"
Early MCU: Used comedy to provide some levity in otherwise mostly serious films. Current MCU: Jokes every 30 seconds because the writers are afraid that audiences will lose interest. Also because the plot probably isn't strong enough to stand on its own.
Hahaha right?? It'd be so ridiculous if Darth Maul survived that lightsaber attack. Disney would do it and ruin George Lucas' established lore. Except wait... Darth Maul literally survived that in a George Lucas-produced show 13 years ago. But sure, diSnEy StAr wArS bAd
@@BthIX I believe there's a difference here. Qui Gon was a light side user. He was stabbed and so he died. Maul is a dark side user, so he clings to the world. Besides, Maul is an alien with enhanced physiological abilities. I think Maul, Vader and Palpatine (accomplished Siths) surviving makes sense. But Reva was a youngling when Anakin stabbed her. And Sabine was not even that strong in the force. That's why I disagree. As for Palps? I only hate the fact that Anakin (the chosen one) didn't kill Palps and restore balance to the force. It should have been him. Maybe his force ghost should have killed him or something. That was his entire point.
@aahwansinghchauhan8210 Sabine is clearly sabbed in the side away from her vitals and had immediate medical attention unlike Qui Gon. And we dont see where young Reva is stabbed or know what immediately happens to her after that so it can be assumed it was similar circumstances to Sabine
@@BthIXthey at least added lore and reasons why he did survive disney are just like "yeah don't care they survived just because... Yeah because we want no further explenation needed"
I'm convinced this is what Hell's theater movies are like, at first it wouldn't be too bad but then hours later you wish you could blow your brains out.
@@RisingSunfishit's funnier watching star wars fans of all things make fun of Marvel as if Star Wars isn't a travesty right now lol. Marvel after Deadpool 3 is starting to get back on track now
@@train123zStar Wars is a movie regarded as the first example of the "New Adventure Cinema", probably called New Wave in american filmography. George Lucas and Steven Spielberg CREATED that genre. Common thing in it is using multiple cultural inspirations to achieve something FUN. So educate yourself. Might also want to look up the definition of "travesty".
Marvel lost me when the snap, which should be the darkest event in history, was treated as something to joke about by the characters. Every person would be utterly traumatized by losing so many loved ones, but sure lets open a Thanos themed ice cream shop
In all seriousness, it was funny when Ironman talked like that. Less so when everyone in a 50-movie series talks like that. Remember in the first Avengers movie, when all the leads had distinct personalities and they at least paid a little lip service to people existing outside the main cast? Those were the days ...
Ok, now do Star Wars but with Sony Marvel movies, eg: "Your father was a Jedi. I was with him on Mustafar as he was doing a backflip just before he died" and "Somehow, Palpatine returned"
@@batmanbud2 Yeah, they are great lines and I like A New Hope a lot. The point is that star wars is already chock full "marvel dialogue" without any edits. It's really not a marvel exclusive thing. It's in Die Hard (1988), it's in The Rock(1996), it's in Nobody (2021), it's everywhere.
@@trevorpacelli8056, it's not the jokes that are the problem. It's the fact that the Sequels rely on Whedon-style dialogue instead of the dialogue style that George Lucas used for the original six films, which makes them sound less like actual Star Wars films, and more like Marvel movies.
@@occam7382 "Whedon-style dialogue?" What do you mean by that? Also, George Lucas hardly had a consistent dialogue style for the original six films, considering the way the prequels were written was entirely different from how the OT was written. The sequel trilogy actually sounds more like the OT than the prequel trilogy does.
Even the bad films of yesterday elicit more respect from me than this modern writing. At least those movies were brave enough to present their scenes and dialogue with SOME sincerity.
I so hated it in Thor Ragnarok. Epic and tragic scene that's meant to be impactful - no, take this joke that completely ruins the mood and makes you question why you even tried to care about the characters
Are you referring to the end when they’re watching Asgard be destroyed and Korg tries to make a speech about how it can be rebuilt, but then it just explodes and he’s like “Oh, yeah, well not anymore.” Because yes, I agree that sucked.
@@Hurtle885hu8bu Yes, things like that. From the name Ragnarok it felt like it's gonna be a dark story about the end of Asgard. Every single moment like that was reduced to nothing by a bottom level joke, especially that joke in the end after Asgard explodes
@ilyafilipo Yeah. I really enjoyed Ragnarok at the time, but now that it’s become the standard for every MCU movie (and pretty much any other big franchise) it’s not as fun anymore.
I remember watching the first Thor movie and thinking all the self aware dialogue was really fun. I don’t know if it was always bad or it just got way too overdone, but that was the only movie I liked in that style, and if I watched it again I’d probably cringe the whole way through. I want to say that the style is just bad period. But I wonder… is it a trend thing? Was it popular because it was a break from movies that took themselves seriously like a normal story? And now it feels gross and out of touch because marvel and everyone else keeps hitting the same buttons hoping for the same result without creating anything original? Will movies become unironic again, and will that eventually get old as well, only for the cycle to repeat? I have no idea, maybe I just liked the first Thor movie because I was a kid lol.
When Buffy came out with this meta irony back in 1997, it was fresh and hilarious and we loved it. But, over time, they just forgot how to do anything else.
"Good Anakin, good! Kill him. Kill him now." - Palpatine "....I Shouldn't." - Anakin "Would it help if you pictured him in his underwear!?!" - Palpatine
