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Luke in the original trilogy:My father has killed billions of innocent people, but I know that I can save him because there’s still good in him. Luke in the sequels: well my nephew had a dream about the dark side so let’s turn him into sachimi.
Darth vader: literally kills dozens of bad people, innocent people, younglings and his comrades Luke: "there's still good in him" Kylo: has a bad dream Luke: "so you must die"
@behind you the entire point of the films is that all sides are retards the redemption is just a side thing, because there the universe works on binary karma - actions don't "stack"
@behind you Because he overthrew an evil force in the galaxy, saving millions if not billions in the years to come. If you don't believe in redemption you should judge yourself for eternity for all the sins you have committed in your life. That cookie you stole? There was a time when they chop your hand for that.
Hearing your scene where Luke talks to force Obi-Wan and hears the mistake he made with Anakin is so beautiful. You literally brought tears to my eyes. The ending shot too of your trilogy is perfection. This is my trilogy
@@deriznohappehquite I mean cinema is just our more modern day version of stage plays, basically. So it makes sense. Though usually the Shakespeare essays are praising his work, not tearing it apart limb from limb.
Dude someone give this guy a billion dollar budget so he can realize his vision. "A better story" is 100 x better than what we had to endure with Disney.
Sad part is, it wouldn't matter if we did. Star Wars is owned by disney and while yes they are greedy mfers, they are also unapologetic control freaks. Even if he bought the licensing rights to produce something they'd tear it apart and stitch it back together so gruesomely nobody would recognize it. For all some of my friends talk about 'the importance of copyright cause otherwise anybody could just sell horrible shit with your name on it and you could do nothing about it'... there's only one company allowed to make star wars now and they are making horrible shit with its name on it and nobody can do anything about it.
Tbh I feel like I'm the only one in this comment section that didn't really like his version. Some parts were great, like Obi wan telling Luke of how anakin turned evil and the flashback to jedi Count dooku, but overall I thought it was just too predictable and lacked the plot events needed to be as dramatic as he wanted it to be. Don't get me wrong I absolutely agree that the sequels need character arcs, but it just seemed to me like he could have handled them better. Rey switched from good to bad way too many times, just to ultimately turn good in the end, and there really isn't any sacrifice that pushes her to change-- to me it kind of felt like he just really wanted to give her a character arc but didn't really spend a long time thinking about creative ways for her to be motivated to change. Things like Rey being the daughter of a sith lord is also very predictable and something we've already seen in the franchise. I wasn't a fan of the jedi and sith teaming up against the yuuzhan vong, either. I think it's too late in the franchise to introduce a force so powerful that the whole star wars dynamic changes completely-- something like that would have to be foreshadowed or introduced way before, otherwise it just seems like he pulled them out of a legends book just to give the jedi and sith and excuse to team up. I don't really find the idea of the jedi and sith teaming up to be that exciting either. It would make an interesting twist for them to temporarily fight alongside each other as the climax of a movie, but I don't like the idea of them teaming up for the entire trilogy. Otherwise, it's obvious that his story was rooted in passion and understanding for star wars that the sequels didn't have. His version has potential to tell an amazing story if he just fleshed it out more and didn't make it as predictable
Accurate. Definitely accurate. I actually like Force Awakens as a fun movie, but... it is too safe. That is certainly true. I don't really like The Last Jedi; it's a bold and original but failed attempt. So yeah, too bold. I don't like The Rise of Skywalker at all. It's a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt-yup, too desperate to win fans over. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like The Last Jedi far more than The Rise of Skywalker. A bold and original but failed attempt is much more interesting than a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt. They both suck, but I would willingly rewatch The Last Jedi any day over The Rise of Skywalker. At least none of them are as bad as the snore-fest that is Attack of the Clones. Edit: it looks like people don’t understand that this is my opinion and there’s really nothing that will change my mind here. Especially nothing about Attack of the Clones; you could not pay me money to sit through it again.
@@lonebattledroid4474 Nice. If you like it good for you. I just cannot find anything to be enjoyed in it. I can for Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, both of which in my opinion are much better than TLJ, Solo, and TROS. And even Rogue One to an extent (which is massively overrated in my opinion) You could not pay me money to sit through Attack of the Clones again. Sorry if that offends prequel fans. I’m a massive fan of the Clone Wars show though!
@@andrewheaney4874 no problem. You're way more respectful than how other fans use to act when I told them I liked the prequels. The one good thing about the Sequel trilogy was because they were so universally hated other fans went back and sorta in a sense forgave the Prequels and now PT and OT fans live in harmony.
Vader: *killed millions ruthlessly, killed his own mentor in front of him, cuts your hand, actively hunts you and your friends down, LITERALLY destroyed an entire planet etc...* Luke: There is still good in him Ben: *has bad dream* Luke: THE DEVIL HIMSELF *Ignites lightsaber*
@@thatoneroyalguard7060 If he HADN'T ignited the lightsaber, but just reached for it when he sensed the darkness and Kylo wakes up to see Luke with his hand on his saber staring at him in fear it could work. But igniting the lightsaber and preparing to strike? Ridiculous
I cried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
Can't believe I only just found this. I was more invested in this story as you told it than I was in all three fully made, fully filmed sequels. I am a die hard Star Wars fan but my faith and love for the franchise is at an all time low, however this on one random Saturday night has allowed me to cheer and be invested in the world I truly love once again. This is outstanding and I thank you so so much for it, I know I'm three years late but still. I'm booting up the old google docs in the morning and will go back to my star wars AUs. I hope someone high up from Disney has seen this and will read the comment to see truly how amazing this is.
Same... I didn't realize this video had an alternate plot from the title. Sure, maybe the details aren't perfect (how could we expect that from one guy) but the overarching theme is just so good... clearly different from the previous entries but with so many callbacks, world building, etc. Amazing that one good writer could come up with something this good but all of Lucasfilm created what we got.
If a Disney exec were to see this, the one thing I would absolutely love and go crazy for is a clone wars style animation of an alternative timeline/alternate universe or what if sequel trilogy following this story. However the excuse goes, maybe connecting bits from legends. The point being I would love to see this regardless and i think animated would make the most sense.
It is true. No one had any idea of the state of the galaxy. Where did the First Order come from? What was the New Republic? How did Palpatine build all those ships? Some of it may be explained in books but hardly anyone reads those.
@@Avalon_1991 Maybe an unpopular opinion but I would have preferred a movie similar to phantom menace, specifically establishing who and where and what the new republic was, their strength, that sort of stuff
The "reveal" that Ray's mother is Darth Kahn gave me more chills than any moment in the 3rd trilogy and you're just reading a script... Incredible writing
I think the person who suffered the most from all of this is Mark Hamill. That man helped build this shit and then watched as some dumb "kids" ran his character into the ground.
@Fuck Google clone troopers fly in clone wars . And jet troopers(stormtroopers) fly in rebels . And yet the main characters of sequels dont know any thing about flying of troopers.
@@Eshtian That makes a lot of sense. It’s pretty obvious this whole movie was made solely because of marketing like the red stormtroopers. I’m pretty sure those were in the movie so target can promote the movie, I think they even have exclusive Sith trooper toys. They were still concerned about people being upset about the last jedi as solo barely performed in the box office.
The moment Mark the guy who played Luke Skywalker one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema, voiced a single complaint about Episode 8 I gave up on Star Wars, Disney ruined it.
Fr idk if it’s cuz it’s 4 am for me but I almost cried cuz of how much better it was and I realized that mark wouldnt act that story out and instead it would just be the joke it is now
The pure sadness on Mark Hamill's face makes me VICIOUSLY furious He's a man you can tell really cared about his character, the series and the fans. He was a poor man being given orders by people who clearly didn't give a shit.
The worst part is that every interview mark has had about the sequel trilogy is like that. You can see the pain every time, and you can practically feel him holding his tongue when it comes to the shit that upset him. Like how he is straight up complaining how they arent aiming for the fans, and everyone starts clapping like its a good thing and he just gives up. Like no one was even listening to him in that room.
@@armondtanzHave you seen the movies? She's Rey, the main character. She's not well written and the whole thing honestly could have been done without her
You can't tell me the kid who saw good in the most evil man in the galaxy saw his nephew have a few dodgy nightmares and thought "Oh I've gotta kill this one". Rian had absolutely no idea who Luke was and what he stood for.
@@cerebrophage7709 From what? Nothing bad happened BEFORE he tried to kill his nephew... sure hiding away after the incident and the temple being burnt down makes some sense.
@@1001History the kind of confrontation and what he had to do with his father and what vader did and how vader did it, and what luke had to do to his father might be a bit traumatizing. Being someone who struggles with PTSD myself, this makes complete sense to me: nearly abandoning ones convictions to protect yourself and others. Not only this, he realized in that moment he was about to repeat the same path his father took. Edit: further, PTSD blocks out your memories and leaves only the intense feelings there and specific stimuli that trigger those memories as a warning system. The summary you give in your post is a summary of what Luke confessed summary. We don't have the full story, just Luke's and Ben's brief recounting of events. No context, nothing. Just a sixty second retelling.
@spooky katt I’m not sure what bad sequels and reboots have to do with the fall of Western Civilization other than that we keep electing increasingly-delusional celebrities into office for some reason (i.e. Ronald Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo, Donald Trump from that one scene in Home Alone 2, and lest we forget Kanye West’s quixotic attempt at qualifying for this current election during one of his manic phases...), but I do agree that Hollywood is basically one big high school clique that was basically impossible to join in if you don’t have last names like Stallone or Banks or Disney, even when the economy was doing well...
Jeffrey Thrash if you were to dive deep into the events that mainstream television does NOT report on, then you’d find that those “celebrities” (trumps a business man far more than he is a celebrity) are far more fit at running for president then the ones that look the part. You can either have criminals and traitors who do all sorts of messed up stuff and whose corruption knows no limits orrr you can choose the political outsiders who don’t know how to conduct themselves presidentially yet are very successful at running a country, even if you never hear about it in television.
@@ZEPR0FESS0RR Thanks for the giggles. Do you honestly expect me to do a complete 180 with my opinion this close to a major election by using the same meaningless Fox News talking points from 2016? Speaking of Fox News, it’s the most popular TV news network on cable and now owned by Disney after the Fox merger, similar to Star Wars here, meaning Fox News is the very definition of “mainstream television.” Nice try pretending to be a free-thinker, again, it would have actually fooled me prior to the 2016 election. Finally, thank you for answering my question as to why people keep voting increasingly delusional and out-of-touch celebrities into extremely important government positions. It sounds like the people that think millionaires and billionaires who didn’t even really have to work for their money would even be capable of sympathy for less-fortunate Americans are pretty delusional and out-of-touch themselves. Good day.
well said. great story arc. It is very sad that the Sequel died trough the egos of two directors and the lack of a good story arc for the triology by disney
Your sequel trilogy pitch made me cry a couple times. It was honestly beautiful. Your trilogy idea will be my headcanon for the post OG SW movies from now on.
If Disney made the Lord of the Rings the same way they made the Star Wars Sequels: The Fellowship of the Ring: Here’s why the ring matters. The Two Towers: Here’s why the ring doesn’t matter at all. The Return of the King: Oh no it’s Smaug! Remember SMAUG?!
I can't be happier that Tolkien wrote appendices, which goes 250 years into period after Return of the King, so no one can destroy Lotr same way they destroyed Star Wars.
Oh no! Luke didn't do what you wanted or act the way you wanted him to? After how many years? Holy shit! It's almost like he's supposed to be a human being! Weird! Jesus Christ grow the hell up.
Dude. Your story was amazing. It had me absolutely captivated. Far more than any of the new trilogy. You fixed every issue I had with them and it was an all around great story with a much better ending.
@@thepowerofthegodhand7003 you're not wrong! When The Force Awakens first came out I thought it was mediocre, but that it would just get better from there. But. It didn't.... Rey just DID NOT feel believable. She didn't even show signs, in my opinion, that she was a supposedly powerful force user. Choreography was garbage, even if Kylo was the only one that knew how to fight.
The craziest thing is, Finn was hinted to also have Jedi powers in the first film. I know that it would had been a stretch, but giving him some time to be allowed to take a Jedi weapon (he might have found) and just start using it throughout the films, and have it pay off later would be nice. We also do need Po, Finn, Rei, and Kylo to actually join up here or there in some episodes. Like have some moments with Po and Finn, but then later have Finn accompany Rei on missions, while Kylo and Po dog fight some enemies in space together. Then later have Finn and Kylo discuss their thoughts on the Order and if they have doubts while Po sees what is happening to Rei and tries to talk to her about it (which can be one of the many driving forces to have her look herself over in the mirror). This dynamic would help foster in some fun moments. Basically a majority of the cast would be in the villains shoes most of the time, which isn't common in Star Wars.
I've seen several plot pitches like this online from several different creators. It makes me wonder how in the HELL Disney dropped the ball on this with their nearly unlimited access to talent and resources. What a shit show.
I cried when you re-wrote the story. Not only because I realised the true lost potential of cinema enjoyment and storytelling but also because the story was just so good that just hearing a random man on the internet reading it to me made me cry of being so invested in the story.
Same here. I'm so interested in the story he has crafted in a month than any of the three movies ever made me. Not even Hans death moved me to tears, I was just angry. His story made me super emotional!!!☺️💖🌸🌷🌺 I was so invested, so interested, so happy, and so sorrowful at the same time.🥺💖 I really wish this was the sequel trilogies not what we got sadly. So much wasted potential.
@@PinkPanther45518 same here. This is much more Star Wars, and much more of a continuation to this part of the story than Disney could ever do. It felt very much a continuation of Lucas' vision, with a deep understanding of the original fan base
Multiple scenes in your re-write had me tearing up in the middle of work. Your spoken-word head-canon had more emotional impact on me than any scene in the entire sequel trilogy. Hopefully one day we can just get a AI render-farm to generate it and have a proper denouement to Luke's story.
AI? You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Abrams and Johnson could ever be. You don't care about art or work or even gratitude. You only care about consuming good content, regardless of effort or human soul. Do fucking better.
AI?... You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Rian and Abrams could ever be. You don't care about creating a good story or even the effort put into a good story. You only care about consuming a good story. Do better. And I know either you or YT hid my last comment, but I will not be discouraged.
It's actually pretty terrible writing. Not the story bit itself, but the way it's implemented into the movie. Told through a (long) hologram sequence? Come on, that would make no sense given how holograms work (can't show multiple times and spaces from a person's perspective if they weren't recorded) and horrible to watch as you've had to look on a table with some blue light emitted to it for quite some time (if I haven't misunderstood something and the part isn't then shown as a flashback... which would still be impossible, since why should Luke see Dooku's perspective of all those moments?).
@Ambar42 You did miss something: The flashback within the hologram scene. Luke would just see Count Dooku giving a report via hologram, but the action scene part which prompted Dooku to make that hologram report would be a flashback scene for us viewers.we come back to the hologram when Dooku apologized to Master Yoda for failing him. He hasn't felt that since he was a child but he admitted he felt afraid. That is what you missed. St most 5 minutes of the video. You lost focus for a solid 3 minutes of that. Timestamps: 1:21:30 - Luke finds the hologram 1:22:25 - 1:25:30 - The Flashback scene 1:26:09 - 2nd Hologram w/ Walking because *Yes, holograms can show walking conversations that were recorded* & as a bonus that scene could be shown to the audience as a flashback too, showing the droi 1:25:31 droids recording the conversations as they walked. Because a *flashback* is a scene showing the audience something out of sequence a.k.a. something that has already happened yet didn't affect the story until now. Flashbacks are not inherently memories.
If Jar Jar had walked out from behind some curtains and claimed to be both Rey and Kylo's father, I think the whole story would've been more believable and would've made more sense.
I Icried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared. And Kylo has to try and make her see that she should follow her own path instead of staying with her evil mother. The only comparison I can make is Zuko and Iroh but this is obviously way different.
@@underplayer420 this is an very interesting second end where you could actually do a 4th movie wich would start with the explaining that the republic won the war and that kylo knows that rey and her mother were still out there. It would still be during the reparatiobs from the war and while the republic is spilt up and in multiple systems the the remesis of the first order would attak al the students from kylo would need to help him defend the new jedi temple to stop rey get something very important that luke didnt feel because it has only the dark force inside of it. Reys mother feel it from all over the galaxy and sent rey to get it. While the first order only has a few ships left they still overpower the republic fleet that is defending the planet bc everybody is spread about the galaxy and not in any near area (kind of the begining from the 3rd movie of the prequel but we switch between space and the temple). Somehow rey gets the object and escapes to her mother (imagine ten to thirty ships jumping into hyperspace and then 50 ships from the republic apearing and reinforcing the currenty fight). Could be the first scene but I am not a good writer.
I feel so bad for Mark Hamill as he was trying to do the best for the fans and he know there was issues with it and was powerless to stop it. Hearing you rewrite the story just makes me even more sad as it makes me realize how bad the movies really were. they could have been so good and here we are
Powerless? He made Luke who he is and there's no one else on Earth who could play that role. He had all the power to stop it, he could have stopped production by quitting halfway through and forced a rewrite.
@@matthewhelm7069 Harrison Ford not only took a massive dump on his Han Solo character, he will ruin Indiana Jones even more in the upcoming feminazi Indy flick. He "carried" nothing in those Disney abominations of Star Wars. He's a grumpy old fart.
Luke: believes in the good in literally Lord Vader until the very end. Also Luke: considering murdering a Kid who had some attitude in cold blood in his sleep.
I saw someone literally trying to defend Luke attempting to kill Kylo in his sleep by saying, "Well it's different, and it's not HIS story, it's Rei's story." Like, seriously? Who cares if it's Rie's story, Luke should still act like Luke. Then again, he also was moved to tears at Leia floating herself back onboard the ship from deep space.
Yes!!!!!! And I LOVE how this brings up the opportunity for Luke to know about and not make the same mistake as we watched his father make in the prequels. Poetry.
Unbelievable video! I don’t think I’ve ever watched a nearly 2 hour long RU-vid video. Well done! The only thing I would change is adding in something about how the Jedi are also flawed in their no love, no attachments mentality. It’s always bothered me, even as a kid 25+ years ago, that they didn’t allow love and affection as part of their teachings. So if Luke or Rey, or Kylo can find their way to the gray side that allows for feelings but uses them constructively as opposed to using them for evil like the dark side, I think that would be even better.
This is the most well-known of the Jedi rules. Love leads to attachment and attachment leads to strong emotions, which are the path to the Dark Side of the Force. Because of this, Jedi are forbidden to fall in love.
THIS!!! I read in an amazing fanfic once that falling in love wasn't prohibited, BUT the pain of losing that love is what was dangerous, of course it was a headcanon.
Terminator 2 Empire Strikes Back The Bride of Frankenstein The Dark Knight The Road Warrior No particular order, off the top of my head, but I think these right here are the elite sequels
@@YourPalAlRetroGamer Clone Wars and The Mandalorian didn't help ruin Star Wars, why would he include them? The Last Jedi single handedly altered lore to tell a different story, and the entire Sequel Trilogy makes everything previous characters have accomplished all for nothing. The sequel trilogy literally killed the franchise. They aren't even making new toys anymore, they stopped production. GL milked that shit for decades, yet Disney ruined it in under one.
@@subsume7904 They are still making Star Wars toys, just significantly less sequel trilogy toys since they are not selling nearly as well as OT, PT, or Mando stuff.
I really hope someone in Disney step up and says "let's pretend than never happened" and restarts the sequels. Yeah, I know how bad everyone thinks of Disney, but they do have some nice films and cartoons. Oh, and dont let J J Abrams film anything important
To me, it felt like the prequels expanded upon the universe, giving things more depth and gave Easter eggs or nostalgia bait things that were actually important or were presented with love. The sequels just felt small, felt like I had already seen them a million times but with the originals and prequels, it feels like I'm watching them for the first time, like there is more behind the curtains that is happening that I can't see. The sequels had no moments that felt like an impact to the story that was happening, it just felt bland. Like even though some lines from the prequels were bad, they had merit, the lines had purpose and required you to pay attention but more importantly the prequels and the originals felt like they were created because someone had an itch to tell a story that he had never heard before, that he brought something that expanded our imagination but the sequels just destroyed that, burnt everything and are trying to pretend like they care while they do it. There's a huge difference between the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy to the Sequel Trilogy. Both Original and Prequel were created by people who wanted to tell a story about love, jealousy, hate, spite, complacency, loss, hope and the Sequels were created by people who just wanted to get their names involved in Star Wars to make a dollar.
100% YES to your entire synopsis on Finn. I've been saying almost exactly that for years. Expanding a fantasy universe is not easy, that's for sure. A "deprogrammed" stormtrooper was a PERFECT example of how to show fans something new without breaking any of the rules of the universe.
This was the thing my cousin and I were most excited about. A defected Stormtrooper idea is brilliant. I loved Finn but they gave him nothing to do besides have him chase after Rey for 3 movies. Which I don't understand either. Rey should have been a mix of her, Poe, and Rose, because there are way too many main characters, Jesus christ.
@@GacMan47 I was excited of Finn's character too. I got hyped about his character. He could've led an uprising of stormtroopers against the empire. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO COOL. His character was so unique. They wasted his character when potentially, he could've been the best one in the entire sequel trilogy.
Rebooting Han back to the scoundrel we know him as actually undoes the character development across the original trilogy. Seeing him grow from a criminal that only wants money to an Alliance General is what made the character so compelling.
@@falshion1837 Think how much scoundrel tricks he could use as an Alliance General. He could be the disliked one, the "honourless", yet effective... Imagine Han Solo devising the "ramming" plan, and telling everyone on the room "but i will not be piloting"... (while Akbar step up).
Agreed. I differ with Closer Look that they did Han any favors and semi well. Disney and JJ went out of their way to destroy the Han we knew and loved. Dead beat dad, slipped back to being a low level smuggler (and incompetent one at that), lost the Falcon somehow, etc. All of which happened without explanation. It's clear Disney and JJ were desperate to spike the OT characters to push their inferior ones instead of having a natural progression, mentorship, and hand off. Oh who am I kidding? At this point we all know Disney did not have an outline or over arching plan for the sequel trilogy
okay I never wanna see Mark Hammil look that sad ever again, holy shit, I feel it, like he betrayed his own fans when he couldn't even do anything about it T_T
yeah i feel the same way. It reminds me of Lucas' face when he signed star wars over to Disney. they both look so disappointed, ashamed and completely aware compared to Disney/Rian Johnson.
@@chav3136 Well Lucas could have ya know, said no, you’re not having my creation. He’s no right to look disappointed or ashamed whilst he was willingly signing it over to them.
@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle yeah true. I just think he looks really regretful that's all but youre right. Disney might have given him loads of promises that sounded good at the time and he said yes but regretted later. Idk 🤷♀️
He didn't betray his own fans--we asked (demanded) that he play in this new trilogy, assuming the trilogy would be good...and then Hamill got his script for The Last Jedi and was now obligated to comply. You can tell he had many pleas with Johnson to consider the fans, and Johnson--being an arrogant dick--refused to listen. That's why I love Mark Hamill and freakin' hate Johnson.
Agreed! The man was a general and then he goes back to same old smuggling as he did before, just more bumbling about it. The only credit that I do give is that I did feel that he cared for Leia and Kylo even if he felt he couldn't do much about their separation. Otherwise, I agree...
Yes. I retrospect it just feels like Han in Force Awakens is Empire Strikes Back Han instead of naturally evolving from the character who just wanted to make Leia in Return of the Jedi happy and the one who cares very much about his friends.
Han really did get regressed to a former state of his fucking character DEVELOPMENT just for what? Probably just the same as everything else, to force back in the exact same status quo as as the original trilogies.... again, but worse.
thats because Jar Jar Abrams is completely and utterly useless at making decent original plots. Its why TFA felt like the bargain bin version of ANH. JJA: "I dont know how to go on from all of Hans character development so I'll just turn him back into the selfish smuggler he was at the start of ANH...and come to think of it I'll just copy ANH in its entirety. Nobody will be smart enough to notice it, surely"
There would've been lots of options between a settled family man and an active genral, and a total smuggler reset. For example: a grizzled detective type Han constantly searching for his lost best friend Luke and using his contacts throughout the galaxy. Why not start the movie with Han finding the map instead of Poe? Or them being a buddy cop team, with Poe naturally being a Han Solo fanboy (but constantly overshadowing his hero whose age is starting to catch up). It could've been an actually entertaining pairing and Han's motivations would make sense and be true to his character. And if you want a throwback, you got it too as it alludes to Han searching for Luke in the beginning of ESB. Plus Han's introduction wouldn't be as contrived and random as it is in the movie now. Is he seriously more invested in hunting down the Falcon than finding Luke or trying to get to his own son? Han already had his moment of growth when he GAVE UP the Falcon, BACK TO LANDO for him to fly in the battle of Endor. It's just a ship that didn't mean anything for him anymore as long as he had Leia by his side and fought for what he knew was right. Granted, ROTJ Han is more mellow and "boring" due to his character growing out of his selfish and cocky traits and the script focusing on Luke and Vader, but TFA Han could've been something totally new, but believeable.
Damn man, parts of your sequel story gave me chills and made me feel more than the actual sequels. When Obi-Wan asks Luke if he ever told him how his father became Vader, wow, what a missed opportunity not having moments like this in the actual films.
This is more in character than anything in the sequals. Tbh the anti jedi propaganda might be the best part of his rewrite :O so in character for sidious to do something lile that.
@@oskardanigsecher9906 This is actually completely out of character really and a misunderstanding of what happened that day. Palpatine wasn't disfigured by Mace, he was always disfigured from his use of the Dark Side. Mace revealed it breaking the alchemy performed to guise the corruption, which Palpatine then used for his purposes to draw sympathy and claim it as an attack by the Jedi. The novelization, which has changes only where Lucas asked for them, has Windu barely holding it back, asking for help, the lightning nearly breaking through the lightsaber, then Palpatine relents, vies for Anakin's assistance and cries about weakness using his appearance for sympathy of his dear friend to which he was practically a father. Palpatine is not a vain character, he doesn't adore his appearance, he sees everything, including himself, as a tool for his own purposes. He needed to appear the humble gentle aged father/grandfather figure to the galaxy and Anakin and some others of the Jedi Order as Senator and Chancellor Palpatine who was the hero that kept the Republic intact, he then calmly considered the effects and could use the disfigurement to show himself a victim yet strong leader to garner sympathy for himself and animosity against the Jedi as Emperor, and later use it further to his advantage. His hatred is not limited to such a petty squabble as Windu, no, his wrath and rancor is a grander scale, a scale infinite in scope, yet boiled down to a single focus on a goal - the death of the Jedi Order and the rule of the Sith. This aspect still works, in that Palpatine would definitely show Mace Windu for his attempt to kill Palpatine but it would be less personal, more strategic. After all, Palpatine recorded Windu's attempt to arrest him.
@@oskardanigsecher9906 No, it makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. The Jedi's reputation would have been one of the first things for the New Republic to restore after the Empire's fall. Luke, their greatest hero, is a Jedi, after all, also they of course would fix how history is told in the galaxy after the Empire has rewritten it through lies. Apart from that all of the galaxy's older generations would still remember the good deeds of the Jedi so the truth would spread, no matter how the Empire tried to propagate a different narrative.
@@Ambar42 Honestly this can make for another interesting conflict between the republic and First order, assuming that in "The Closer look"s rewrite both Republic and 1st Order are about equally powerful factions, where both sides are rewriting history in their own way. The Republic glorifying Jedis and Jedi order as these flawless, noble heroes and peacekeepers while the First order kept Palpatine's version of history preserved, or maybe bend it further for their benefit, showing the Jedi as manipulative monsters who abducted and groomed children into emotionless soldiers, with what is considered as "accurate history" in a sector/galaxy/area depending on what faction governs it. It can make for another showcase of the Republic and 1st order's conflict and expand the world further IMO
@@lordrevan5601 yep. I mean, theres also a lot of objectively bad fanfiction out there, but even those brought joy to at least the author. So they have still more worth than the new trilogy.
Here, I've barely watched each of the Star Wars movies once. Your rewritten story is excellent. Bravo, I'm happy your video popped up. I can visualize more and more details from your story and it's very good.
This is where Star Wars lives. Not in greedy corporations, but in the hearts and minds of fans. Thanks for the better story. As far as I'm concerned, it's canon now.
No joke, I was more entertained by hearing that rewrite than I was by actually watching the sequels. Can't even remember if I've seen all of the sequels... just lost interest.
Oh we're angry alright. If somebody takes a big dump on your porch and then tells you that you're evil for not noticing his genius, that's no longer disappointment. That's anger about a roundhead that needs a beating.
@@jthomas6672 fear leads to hatred not anger. You can be angry at something or someone but not fear them, but if you hate someone you almost always fear them in someway
Absolutely phenomenal video, almost skipped it after RU-vid auto played it for me, but I’m glad I didn’t. You have such a captivating method of story telling and I look forward to binging some of your uploads later tonight. Can’t wait for the “What If…” centered around my newest head canon.
Han's exactly how we remember him - definitely not how I remember him. He's exactly as I remember him at the beginning of Episode 4 not at the end of Episode 6. He had a character arc through the OT that saw him go from a self centred, selfish rogue, to a self sacrificing general. He is treated by episode 7 almost as badly as Luke is in 8.
Thank you!! Hans entire character arc was discarded and he was turned into a 66 year old Loser with a failed military and racing career who had to become a smuggler again just to make ends meet. Left his job, Lost his wife, lost his son, lost his ship. And not even for any good story reasons. This alongside not putting ALL THREE OF THE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS on screen together again, is what upsets me the most.
Yes in episode four you could hear how he does not belive any force stuff, while in the end of episode six he knows how great jedi Luke is. Is it that average viewer hates prequals, because it was just bad acting, while had great story, when George Lucas didnt get help in acting the charchters, when if he had got help, like in orginals. The acting would be more better and so prequals more loved, but these sequals just compleately forgot the story and so hard core Star Wars fans hate the sequals, because it had no story and had jokes there that made the movies even more clown like and thats why Star Wars toys are not selling, because the hard core Star Wars fans buy the toys, while average viewers dont care about the toys. If George Lucas could have made the story of sequals and had some help for example Steven Spielberg with acting. The sequals would then become great movies, but instead some stupid little liberal wortheles bald man Ryan Johnson made the sequals.
i think what EVEVERYONE does not udnerstand, is that 30 years pass between 6-7 and thats more time off screen for character development than all 3 originals movies combined and just like with luke, we are told how his life fell apart after kylo went awol, but what i dont get is why people expect the characters to be EXACTLY the same for no reason at all. like they dont progress downword as people after hardships, which is a completly human thing, but no lol star wars fans wanted the their belopved characters to remain static for 30 years just for their enjoyment. I will say tho, they could have done a dozen things differently while sticking with the core concept that kylo killed the padawans and that fucked with everyone and caused some negative progression to take place and it probabaly would have been recieved a little better.
Somehow… Palpatine returned. Somehow… Rey can defeat literally anyone, despite only discovering the Force literally three days earlier. Somehow… Rey repaired Luke’s lightsaber, even though it had been torn in half and then completely blown up as the Supremacy was destroyed. Somehow… The Force Heal ability was never used by any Jedi, not even Anakin to save Padme or Obi-Wan to save Qui Gon, before Rey used it to save an enemy that had killed his own father before her eyes. Somehow… The Death Star wreckage is on a random ocean planet, mostly intact and left untouched by scavengers, even though it should’ve crashed on Endor and should’ve been completely destroyed by the explosion. Somehow... Hyperspace is a weapon of mass destruction, which had never been used as a weapon until Holdo came up with it, even literal eons after it’s creation. Somehow… No one has crashed into something, literally anything, whilst flying in Hyperspace before Holdo did. Somehow… Force Ghosts can interact with the physical world, yet they have never once tried to help the Jedi in battle. Somehow… People were paid to write this trilogy.
@@royalkingdom2801 Oh, so you want me to start listing off the facts? Well, okay, then: The Star Wars prequels definitely had problems, mainly in the fact that George Lucas was mainly thinking about the child audience when he was making the trilogy. This led to the creation of Jar Jar, who mainly just came off as annoying and unnecessary rather than comic relief. There is also the fact that the dialogue in the trilogy is more dramatic and ‘poetic’ than the Original Trilogy, which led to some important lines coming off as comedic rather than being dramatic or romantic. That being said, the story of the Prequels is amazing. The worldbuilding is made in breathtaking detail and provides amazing context for the entire franchise. The plot tells the tragic story of how Anakin became Darth Vader in amazing storytelling and allows you to understand Anakin’s turn to the dark side completely. Meanwhile, the Sequels can BARELY be called a trilogy or a story at all. Each of the movies were made by different directors who both had different plans for how the trilogy would end. Every time they made a movie, they did not even build their story from the plan that the previous film set up and instead made up their own plan as they went, which ended up causing the themes of each movie completely contradict each other. For example, The Force Awakens was basically just a remake of A New Hope, with a fancier Death Star. All it did was basically try to build a new story that tried to appeal to the Original Trilogy, however, instead of trying to build A New Story off of the Original Trilogy, they basically just tried to copy everything from more iconic films to try and look appealing, instead of coming up something new and original. However, The Last Jedi has the exact opposite problem. It tries to make a story that was new and original, but instead of building the story off of the legacy of the Original Trilogy’s characters and accomplishments, they essentially try to make every single one of our favorite past characters look as pathetic as possible so that they can new characters look better. Luke’s entire character was completely ruined by this movie, because he turned into the exact opposite of who he was. He went from a brave, determined Jedi to a cowardly, pathetic hermit who wouldn’t even leave the planet he was on to save his own sister and the Rebellion. These are just a few of the countless problems that the Sequels stupidly created. Let’s get into the characters shall we? First off, Rey is a terrible protagonist. From the very first part of the trilogy, she has NO character development. Absolutely NONE. Her abilities in the Force are not attained through hard work and determination, but are just GIVEN to her by the writers for no other reason than to make her overpowered. And it’s not just the Force they made her overpowered with. They made her win EVERY SINGLE LIGHTSABER DUEL SHE’S EVER HAD. The first time, literally the FIRST TIME, she ACTIVATED a lightsaber, she went up against a guy who had been trying with the Force and his lightsaber his ENTIRE LIFE, despite having NO training with any blade-like weapon of any kind. And she WINS. The first time that both Luke and Anakin fought in a lightsaber duel, even though they had trained their asses off, they got their asses handed to them. Because of course they did. Both the opponents they were facing were significantly more experienced and powerful than they were. The point of that was that both of them eventually overcame their struggles and grew more skilled as time progressed. But Rey didn’t overcome any struggles, because she was never defeated. She was already made the most powerful character by the begining of the trilogy through nothing else but 10 inches thick plot armor. There are countless other problems in the Sequels. So many that I can’t even get into the full number of them without turning this reply into an entire book. The Prequels definetly weren’t perfect, but they were definetly better than a dumb story that MAKES NO SENSE and ruins every single one of our favorite past characters. The fact that you are actually trying to say that the Prequels were WORSE than this garbage makes me wonder if you’ve actually watched Star Wars at all.
And what sucks is that so many people think "pleasing the fans" means being predictable and unoriginal. I honestly wonder what that crowd would think if they knew their beloved character was emotionally ruined off screen. Story matters but we didn't see it.
I first thought when Hamill's hands trembled he was just exaggerating, but it is definitely real. Imagine being Mark Hamill and having to stomach JJ Abrams's and Rian Johnson's god awful direction because you don't want to ruin the production you know everyone else is working so hard for. The whole experience with the embarrassing sequel trilogy will probably scare him away from doing anything in a movie again.
The people running the franchise have no idea what Star Wars is all about. They think that “having the Force” is a thing. Rey floats in the air AND twirls a bunch of rocks around her. In NONE of the other movies did we see any of the characters do that. In fact none of the characters did ANYTHING like that because that is not what the Force is. They only saw the little “magic tricks” and thought that was the Force. We only saw young Anakin play with the force-he was with Padme on Naboo. He floated the fruit. None of the other Jedi did anything like that because Jedi don’t do that. They somehow think that hyperspace is instantaneous. When Luke and Obi Wan went to Alderan with Han Solo, that trip took many hours. We saw Luke learning about the force. Now they can “light speed skip” or whatever that means. Or Finn and Rose can leave the chase and go to the gambling planet and then get back to the chase? In space time and distance is vast, not like going to the corner store. The people running Star Wars don’t know what they are doing.
@@theloanranger2632 Hamill's a better man than me. No way would I have been able to do press day in, day out surrounded by those Kool-aid guzzling clowns.
To me, the trilogy kind of felt like Disney is just showing off. "Look, we have Chewbacca! Look, we have lightsabers! Look, we have R2D2 and C3PO! Look, we have Han Solo and Lando! Look, we killed Han Solo!" But you know what? I can't remember any of the new heroes names. Look, Disney: I have a middle finger!
DX did a really good critique of the sequels. The biggest problem with these movies is that they assumed Star Wars was defined by its surface-level elements (e.g. lightsabers, spaceships, the force, aliens, establishment oppressors, Skywalkers, Palpatines, and giant planet-destroying lasers), when in fact the TRUE appeal of Star Wars is how its story has many parallels to real-world concepts which we can RELATE to (e.g. Jediism=religious disciplines, the empire=space Nazis, Luke=a young farmer boy who joins a war effort, Revenge of the Sith=the collapse of once-great democracies, Vader killing the Emperor=rejecting the devil, Luke not giving into dark side temptations=not making the wrong choices in life, Ewoks=noble savages, Anakin=borderline personality disorder, Padme's relationship with Anakin=abusive relationship with unstable partner, etc.).
Honestly even NC has a good point in his video on the prequels being better since they were still the vision of Lucas and not a corporation and that's what the sequels are that a corporate decision while the prequels are just lucas doing what he wanted
@@david-bd8op Anakin is vader, man. If anakin and vader are different people, why would vader ever have any incentive to hate the jedi? why would vader have any affention towards luke when the emperor was electrocuting him? why would vader care about padme and her dying? its just obi wans bullshit philosophy
What an absolutely AMAZING video! I loved every single minute of it. The insights into the sequels and actually explaining their flaws and giving solutions to their problems was really interesting, and I loved the alternative sequel trilogy you narrated. All of this told in a very curated way! Congratulations on this amazing job!
honestly, yeah. looking at interviews, it's honestly heartbreaking to see the pain in his face. he knows that in the sequel trilogy, luke is not luke. it's honestly so sad but in this rewrite, i know *i* saw luke. not *a* luke, *the* luke.
@@bjakeijzer Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't forced *at all*. Look, for all I know, it very well could be genuine, but to me, his comments feel more genuine then his apologies. But that's just me.
@@katieleora8057 I honestly don't think it was forced. He's been schown to be very open with his opinions and didn't shy away from saying he disagreed with Rian.
The one I really feel sorry for in this whole mess is Mark Hamill, he's a wonderful actor and his role of Luke essentially catapulted his career sky high and obviously he holds a lot of respect for Star Wars and George Lucas as well, I imagine when the new trilogy was announced he must've been thrilled to have a chance to act as Luke again, this time much older and wiser, both as actor and character. But he so openly thrashed the sequels which is not something you see actors almost ever do. He wanted to be a part of something wonderful and instead watched something he holds very dear to be destroyed and he had to take part in it. From almost every interview I've had a chance to see he seems not mad or disillusioned, he is just legitimately sad it ended up the way it did it breaks my heart.
He was hyped to be what Alec Guinness was to him so long ago. He knew obvious he’d be in the mentor role to the protagonist of this era, but that didn’t bother him. Think I remember he said he got himself into shape and the whole nine yards just to be given a 10 second cameo at the ass end of the force awakens. They really did him dirty. The scene of young him staring off into the two evening suns of Tatooine longing for something more than being a moisture farmer will forever the most iconic scene of the whole franchise to me.
Aww feel bad for the bad actor who gets fans groveling at his feet for participating in a shit movie. BTW he loves the films and hates fans that don't. Go read his tweeter.
@@BoleDaPole You are fake news. Hamill has NEVER said that. 1/10 for bad trolling because you have never read any of his tweets..(It's obvious to anyone who follows him you are full of it.)
Rey fails as a "strong female character" because she's really only strong when compared to everyone around her. Her allies are portrayed as absolute idiots who are helpless without her. The First Order is made up of idiots who Rey and the Resistance defeat by... not being quite as inept?
I think she is strong but like way too strong to be realistic, logic breaks so she wins. and she isn't even interestingly op. She is just there to be a strong female main character and that's all, maybe?
@@pumkin610 I'm not at all trying to be toxic but was Luke not also to OP? I mean all the stuff people bring up when they try to say that Rey is a Mary sue Luke has also done, Using the force without any training check, beating someone they have very little chance of beating in the third movie check, being the strongest out of the trinity check. But the reason both characters aren't Mary sue's is simple they have conflicts they struggle they dont win all the time to OP yes absolutely but Mary sue's they are not
@@TheColeminator I disagree, I think she is a mary sue. I do agree thay luke is also overpowered and uses this mysterious magic force that seemed to have no limits, he was especially overpowered in legends. Rey isnt a mary sue just because she always wins, she develops new force powers and even random skills whenever the plot requires it, and its all because of the force or whatever. She can gain knowledge just by touching people, that's how fast they need to rush her development.
@@pumkin610 my guy she loses in TLJ and in the beginning of The rise of Skywalker we see her going over old Jedi texts learning and increasing her power
i think that will go down as one of the biggest issues, and TFA having literally ZERO things happen, just expecting the next film to carry the entire story from a start point where there's literally 2 hours of filler
I actually answered all the question's as he is possibly smugging to himself thinking that he found some refutable evidence. Except that all these questions have been ansered in the FIRST movie. for example. Is the first order a small faction or a large faction? Small faction. Stated in the first movie of the sequal trilogy. Why didn't they built a navy instead of starkiller? Limited resources. So they decided to built one death canon that soaks up energy from the sun instead of creating new energy and deliver that first blow in a desperate attempt to destroy the enemy. Why didn't the New republic do anything? The new republic didn't want another war and only saw the first order as a fringe group. All of the question he so smugly spouts can be explained. Yes explained poorly with not much logic placed into them. But they CAN be answered.
11:19 The idea of Han limping, showing his older age while still wanting to be involved in the action is not only incredibly emotional but completely in character. He was all about being a snarky badass and thrived on adventure; this isn't a job, it's his life. Seeing his age catching up to him would tell the audience, without any words, that he's fighting his own expiration date. That is simple, nuanced, sympathetic and adds to his arc perfectly- god, I love it
@@stgriff2566 I don't think it's not that they can't fix a limp, but it's more likely that Han would not acknowledge that there was a problem, and as such never try to have it fixed. As to the age thing, most of the research for extending lifespan involves the Force, not medical technology in the Star Wars universe, so it's understandable that it would not have significant progress. Though I personally have a theory that the reason why age is still a problem for most of the humanoid species is that the Hutts and other criminal-aligned species with excessively long life-spans actively shut down any concerted research efforts into improving the life-spans of humanoid species so that they don't have as many competitors in the galaxy.
Yeah... But is does make kilos redemption a bit less convincing.... And that is my one problem with Darth Vader, he is saving the life of obi wan in the start of a movie, almost killing him the next...
I don't really like the sequels, but his fan fiction is... well, it's your average convoluted fan fiction. It has cool ideas, but I don't think it would work as an actual movie trilogy, at all
4:28 "A lot of times I would say to Ryan, we gotta think about the fans. And he said no, we gotta think about the story; we gotta think about our movie." Audience: Applause So this is how a franchise dies... with thunderous applause?
The weird part is I don't even think that is a bad approach. You should think about the story and then telling a good story will attract fans. Like, that's how it works. The idea that there's some dichotomy between fans and story quality as if you can only appease one or the other is just really dumb to be honest.
@@jojodelacroix exactly though the problem with pre-established IP's like star wars is you still have to cater, or at least acknowledge and take into account, previous world building you cant just make up your own rules. Rian didnt comprehend this. By saying to "remember the fans" what they really meant was "respect the world building and previous character arcs within the universe you are writing your story in" like if im doing a fictional biography of a character in an actual IRL time period, making sure its not anachronistic matters. An american civil war soldier shouldnt have a rocket launcher. It sounds cool but its not appropriate for the "realistic" fiction im going for.
the idea of Luke having to tearfully reveal who Rey's real mother is could totally echo the "no I am your father scene" except now Luke is in the place of Vader. Rey would be so shocked and hurt, she would have the same reaction to Luke finding out who his dad was! And Luke would feel so terrible that he is in this position of having to hurt her like Vader hurt him!!!! Wow, that would be so cool.
Just saw this and bravo! I found myself having bigger reactions to your rewrite. Loved the plot twist with Rei's mother. That ending was chef's kiss. I really hope that these get made into movies, or even graphic novels. Maybe even an animated series. I also, really enjoy that you don't just offer a critique, but your own solution for the issues. Once more bravo.
@@charley15z lol, still better than that harry potter fanfic that JK rowling okayed. (forgot the name, something child. no, it is not fantastic beasts, I refer to the book one)
Like Coruscant was a FANTASTIC idea! In a fantasy epic where society is spread across different planets, it makes perfect creative sense that one of them has to be a central hub. And its made even better by the fact that Lucas didn’t just make it this shining metropolis, but he gave it its slums, and factories, and dinky corner-street diners 👌🏻
Your trilogy rewrite brought tears to my eyes. Not because it was beautifully written but it shows just how dead and hollow they’ve made Star Wars compared to how we could’ve felt.
Yeah I 100% agree. I bet The Closer Look isn’t even as much of a hardcore fan as many of the people watching this video, but solely the care and respect with which he treats both the original movies as well as the prequels in his rewrite shows that he is very capable as a writer.
Glad i found this, even though its been out for 3 years. I loved your take. Only thing I would change is adding in "Grey Jedi". SInce Rey and Kylo both dabbled with the dark side for a great deal of time, they are able to see the Pro's and Con's of both sides... Allowing them to create a YIN/YANG teaching that created the balance the force has always been looking for. Hope this finds you well. Cheers!
Shrek 2 is great! That's how you do a sequel: a natural progression of the story/character arcs, more worldbuilding, new likable characters, villains with understandable motivations, and the same look and feel of the original.
Your version of the the sequels was so good that only watching the ride of the Rohirrim could fill the void that took over my thoughts as I finished your video. That scene when Luke redeemed the entire Jedi Order would have been a cinematic highlight for years to come. It's truly sad how the Star Wars franchise was treated.
Again, you claim it was good and your entitled to your opinion, no one I've shown this video to has liked his version. Myself included, I stand by my statement the guy needs to learn how to tell stories. You have to have clear points and not just oh hey I think this makes good sense here so i'll insert it here.
In legends, Luke was a proud and successful Jedi warrior who was happily married to an equally awesome woman (who had a great arc of her own), had a son, and embarked on numerous missions throughout the galaxy. In the sequel trilogy, he became a bitter hermit and died shortly after he was found. Even though legends is far from perfect, I think most people agree the legends Luke was a lot better.
The only book of the EU that I found was when Luke met Mara and I really liked the book and her as a character. Made me very sad when Disney said that it was no longer cannon...and then mad when there was that random push for gender politics
He was also a very powerful force wielder and lightsaber duelist who created a new stronger jedi order and taught new jedi not to fear the dark side but to accept it as the force. but where is all that building up to where he is living out the rest of his life learning from ancient jedi
@@kangwamaster4638 I really don't care what Disney said. Why should we accept that this empty husk of a overly long merchandise commercial of a trilogy replaced decades of expanded universe stories? Nah fuck them, the EU is canon in my book.
@@brotbrotsen1100 I mostly agree with you, the one thing I say disney SHOULD have done was clean up legends because lets be honest with ourselves here, legends had problems as well, whilst I think legends should still be cannon, as it is it isn't perfect
I ain't gotten to that part of the video yet so IDK if he mentioned this; but I would have really, really loved it if while Rey was with Luke in the second film she expresses doubt about her prowess with the Force compared to her enemies, saying that she can only try, to which Luke responds with Yoda's "Do or do not, there is no try."
I really liked the rewrite of Episodes 7-9. My son has started playing the Star Wars Living Card Game from Fantasy Flight and he wants to put the jedi and the Sith together on the same team. I think it would be a hit. I liked that the story was still about Luke and about his essential goodness, but his lack of trust in himself and the way things are supposed to work out. I think it could definitely be a hit. Only thing you missed is some cute cuddly aliens that can be merchandised endlessly... :) I think it was good. I think Poe and Finn's arc needed a little bit better wrapping up, but you kinda mentioned that in the story telling. It would have had a lot more surprises and a lot more character and plot driven action and fighting. Some interesting history and resurrection of the old stories. I wasn't a big fan of the prequels, but it seems to make sense to draw them in, and weave them together as you had, rather than to ignore them completely. Nicely done!
I didn’t even look at the length when I started. When he said “This video is a little longer than my usual videos”, I assumed it’d be, like, 40 minutes maybe. Then I looked at the length.
I really like the idea of Luke taking in Kylo even though he's Palpatine's grandson because he would want to give children of the evilest people a chance to be the best since he himself was the son of Darth Vader.
I had some tearing up when we mentioned Luke entering the Jedi temple in awe and wonder and that incredible build up to the horror of the Holocron messages.
To be honest, I think the most interesting direction to take from a world-building perspective would have been for the sequels to have taken place in a geopolitically shattered galaxy. After all, just because you kill the Emperor doesn't mean the Empire itself will magically transform itself into a functioning republic again. Instead of the New Republic becoming the reigning power, it could have been simply first among equals, with the rest of the galaxy broken between Moffs-turned-warlords, Hutt Cartels and Black Sun carving off their own domains, Mandalorians going a-conquering yet again: everyone and anyone, rushing to fill the power vacuum left in the interregnum of the Empire. This way, you don't make everything which happened during the Original Trilogy worthless, and you get to explore themes wholly different from the Original Trilogy, yet directly resulting from its consequences. It's one thing to tear down oppressive power structures, but it's another thing entirely to build new ones to replace them. This gives a pathway for character development, both for new characters and old ones. And instead of resurrecting the Sith (thereby undercutting Anakin's character arc), the story can focus on the hard, messy, often tragic task which is rebuilding in the aftermath of tyranny. Rather than feeling the need to artificial raise stakes with Death Star knock-offs, the characters can instead contest not with clear-cut villains, but with antagonists with perfectly understandable, perhaps even justifiable reasons for the actions they commit. Imagine if the First Order was a faction of former Imperials genuinely trying to restore order, rather than a clearly irredeemable cult of sci-fi Neo Nazis? Imagine if other coalitions of planets like the New Republic formed, but along ideological/sectarian lines different from them, resulting in a cold war? Or rogue factions of the Rebellion who didn't want to restore the Republic at all, for fear of creating another Empire. And through it all, Luke could be struggling to rebuild the Jedi Order, while still working to preserve peace in the galaxy, while balancing political concerns as elements within the New Republic try to use him and the Order for their own ends. Rather than struggles with the Dark Side, Luke could be struggling to protect his students from trials for which they are not yet ready, while still trying to uphold his responsibility to the vulnerable as a Jedi, and while still sussing out for himself what it even means to *be* a Jedi. There were so many different directions the story could have gone this way, without rehashing either the Prequels or the Sequels, or betraying the successes the characters therein achieved, and has the added advantage of being a realistic picture of what actually happens when empires die. I dunno, perhaps it's too adult for an franchise that's supposed to be accessible to kids, but I think it would have been cool.
That’s such a good idea!! I actually might try to do a sequel rewrite off of this idea... I’ll credit you :) In my mind I can see that in the years since the empire fell, there was a massively divisive conflict in the galaxy over who controlled regions. Different groups rise like you say... an imperial split leaves the new republic at the core and with little territory around it, so they work with willing moffs and governors, allowing them to keep territory; meanwhile the more dedicated imperials form the first order to consolidate their own space, and begin work on a defense station for systems under their protection, using materials from the already carved out planet of Ilum ; Mandalore leads a group called the League of Independent Systems (those who wish to self rule independent of any other faction and if threatened by one can call on the other members for help; any systems that can provide aid in a situation but don’t can be removed from the league and not allowed any aid themselves) ; other factions like the black sun, and the Chiss take control of their own regions ; after enough time the conflict mostly dies down as the borderlines are established; the factions are each about matched in power so the borders are static for the most part; however any apparent weaknesses in the borders are immediately exploited by nearby factions to gain power, because each wants to take enough to overcome the others and rule the galaxy, or at least more of it. Ruling factions rely on their systems for strength and supplies, and thus offer protection to newcomers. Imagine the first order not being nazis like you say, and helping people. with the borders mostly settled it’s more like the Cold War than WWII, each faction spying and performing military maneuvers to threaten each other. The first order’s defense station is discovered by new republic espionage, and battles resume along their borders as the new republic, in an alliance with the League, move to infiltrate First Order space and eliminate the threat of hyperspace laser bombardment (bc destroying more planets is just lazy, say it just has a powerful and precise hyperspace laser system to target military bases and fleet shipyards). Imagine the attack on the defense station leaves it crippled but not destroyed at the end (or maybe as the beginning) of the first movie, so the first order desperately tries to retake it and rebuild the damage, sending in their fleet to battle around ilum and the station, and to cut off the penetrating supply chains into their space that keep the new republic forces supplied enough to keep the system suspended between the control of either faction. As for the characters: Luke is trying to rebuild the Jedi from a destroyed reputation, and because they are outlawed in some regions must be careful in his movements. He acts as a vigilante to keep peace outside each factions law, and trains more Jedi, hoping to prove to the galaxy that the Jedi can indeed bring peace and minimize hardship. You could have Han trying to continue his old life as a smuggler but feeling guilt over the loss of his son, who he was never close enough with at the most vulnerable parts of his development and therefore wasn’t emotionally ready to be a Jedi; Kylo, drawn to the dark side during his training with Luke, partially under the influence of snoke, and realizing that the darkness has potential to help people, though without realizing the full force of its effects on him as he uses it more. He betrays Lukes trust while leading one group of his Jedi on a mission in one system when they have to split up; Luke finds the bodies of some who were in that group and realizes the rest went with kylo. He takes on the new mission of tracking down Kylo before he can become a major threat, with the Jedi he has left. You have Leía, a higher up in the new republic senate, returning to military authority to conduct the infiltration, and desperately trying to maintain the fight around ilum and keep the support of the League. Then you could have Finn, still a first order trooper, traumatized after the bloodbath of his unit fighting earlier in the border disputes, force sensitive and fearing his chain of command that ends in dark side users, and who finally snaps and deserts after another traumatic fight on one of the moons of another planet in the Ilum system in one of the initial fights. You could have Rey, a small time scavenger who wanted to see the galaxy and travel, getting caught up in Han’s falcon crew and eventually the fight around ilum. The plot lines would all converge: Luke wants to help Finn after sensing his presence in the force while tracking down Kylo, because he senses his potential in force power and his will do to good in the universe; snoke wants him as well for his power, and commands kylo to bring him in as a final test for kylo’s entry into the ranks of military leadership of the Order; Han and Rey are forced into seeking help from the league to escape a smuggling debt situation with crimson dawn (who have taken over hutt space since the collapse of the hutts and jabba’s death, and are allies of the first order) and appeal to Bo Katan, who is leading Mandelore, having come to understand her sisters ideals more in the hardship of a civil war following the empires collapse, and in the faction conflict. In return for settling debts, Han is tasked with carrying supplies alongside a mandelorian escort ship to ilum, where he reunites with leía on the front lines, and is able to finally reconnect with his old friend Luke after his years of chasing the trail of Jedi appearances. Wow I just wrote a ton but those are all the initial thoughts racing through my head... I’ll try and consolidate them better in an actual draft of it!
@@willmungas8964 That first draft will be crazy! This is a novel idea, but like original poster said, there isn't much kid appeal. I'd love it, but I'm not sure there'd be much opportunities for a line of toys out of this haha.
This is fucking GOLDEN idea dude. Yes. YAAAASSSSS. I want to hear more. Who are you're characters? Are you taking anything with you from the Sequel trilogy? This deserves a fucking chat dude. Are you on Reddit?
@@raf.nogueira same! It totally breaks cannon, and how the heck do they all split perfectly down the center? I’d get it if the center one did and the others were pushed away but it’s so illogical it hurts
