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@jacundotheCollector
@jacundotheCollector 10 месяцев назад
They need to watch the lore videos about Count Dooku and General Grievous. To see the rough life they lived and what made them take the dark path they did. And maybe they will learn to really like them. Like Count Dooku is my favorite character in all of Star wars
@MsTendus
@MsTendus 10 месяцев назад
General grievous was b1 battle droid who upgraded himself to avenge his kind against the jedi. Dooku was a depressed piano player who had a romantic love affair with palpatine on naboo in his youth.
@hunterackerman1697
@hunterackerman1697 10 месяцев назад
Same. I'm a hard Dooku fan.
@jacundotheCollector
@jacundotheCollector 10 месяцев назад
@@hunterackerman1697 He is such a great and unique character. I wish more people would look into his back story. Dooku fans unite
@hunterackerman1697
@hunterackerman1697 10 месяцев назад
@@jacundotheCollector Unite!
@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly
@Fiddlefiddle5000-qv1ly 7 месяцев назад
They can watch tales of the jedi
@cakekiller1051
@cakekiller1051 10 месяцев назад
They really did grievous dirty in the clone wars 😂 he a lot stronger than what they make him out to be. There's a reason he has collections of lightsabers
@cesarv7685
@cesarv7685 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately he was stuck facing against Jedi with plot armor. Specifically, Obi-Wan
@jasonl8681
@jasonl8681 10 месяцев назад
In Fallen Order, Merrin references an armoured warrior carrying lightsabers who wiped out her clan when she was a child. The Defoliator tank was also the same design George Takei's character was testing out on the lemur people way back in season 1. And Talzin rising from Dooku's chest is one of the coolest, and kinda disturbing visuals in the show.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
We remember that. 😢 fricking Grievous
@starkiller169
@starkiller169 10 месяцев назад
Now you know why merrin was alone on dathomir almost her whole life her people were slaughtered when she was a child And when she heard the mechanical warrior wielding jedi lightsabers (general grievous) She thought the jedi slaughtered her people. Oh, and one more thing, don't forget that when savage came back to mother talzin, she told him to find his brother darth maul
@brucechmiel7964
@brucechmiel7964 10 месяцев назад
You can see cave depictions of Grievous in Fallen Order.
@starkiller169
@starkiller169 10 месяцев назад
@@brucechmiel7964 Really Now I want to play through the game again
@MoonLight-q4r
@MoonLight-q4r 10 месяцев назад
@@brucechmiel7964 where?
@brucechmiel7964
@brucechmiel7964 10 месяцев назад
@@MoonLight-q4r As you make your way through the caves in your first run on Dathomir, you will encounter several depictions of a multi limbed warrior killing everything in sight. This image will be scattered everywhere in the village and the lower path to the temple.
@zi326
@zi326 10 месяцев назад
Count Dooku was a very respected jedi but he was very fed up with the jedi order that he thought as corrupt and that they didn't serve the force but rather chose sides (similar to what Qui-Gon thought). When Qui-Gon who was Dookus padawan died thats when Dooku decided to quit the order (If you look up deleted scenes from Attack of the Clones there still is a statue of Dooku in the jedi library even after he had left the order). Dooku still has alot of respect for some of the jedi, especially for Obi-Wan who he praises whenever he can and Joda who he believes is the strongest and was also Dookus old master. Grevious species thought a war against the jedi and got massacred except for Grevious who got badly injured which is the reason for all his robotic parts. So that's why he hates all jedi and the only reason he is fighting on Dookus side, he doesn't actually care about the separatist cause he just despices jedi. I may have some detail wrong about Grevious backstory but thats pretty much the sum of their motives.
@jacksonyon5276
@jacksonyon5276 10 месяцев назад
Dooku already left the order during the phantom menace but the Jedi still let him visit and everything
@Gretxx
@Gretxx 5 месяцев назад
Dooku was qui gons aprentice.
@bobafett1313
@bobafett1313 10 месяцев назад
Grievous should have won against Ventress but Dave Filoni for some reason had to nerf him so much. Sad really 😔
@MoonLight-q4r
@MoonLight-q4r 10 месяцев назад
I mean to be fair it was George Lucas who told him to do that
@thealmightypancakeface9585
@thealmightypancakeface9585 10 месяцев назад
Grevious was never supposed to be strong, he was supposed to be a slimy coward as George Lucas himself said.
@bobafett1313
@bobafett1313 10 месяцев назад
@@thealmightypancakeface9585 Not really, for one it’s not cowardly to live to fight another day. If that’s cowardice then what about Kenobi fleeing from Vader in the Kenobi show? Or Yoda fleeing from Sidious in their duel? Grievous had balls to fight Kenobi and Eeth Koth in a 1v1 sure he had droids present however he didn’t really try with Kenobi until all his droids were defeated (I’m talking about Grievous intrigue) and when he fought Eeth Koth he 1v1 him without droid assistance until the Jedi master did a douche move and used the force. So calling him a coward for being smart isn’t a fair move. Also if we look at Grievous’s duels with Kenobi and Koth we see Grievous actually beat both COUNCIL MEMBERS in lightsaber combat until the Jedi both used a cheap force push to save their skins.
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 10 месяцев назад
Ventress was squaring up to Dooku and clutched a 2v1 against Anakin and Obi-Wan. It's not as much that they nerfed Grievous as it is they buffed the HELL out of Ventress. She went from Melee Kirby to 64 Kirby.
@bobafett1313
@bobafett1313 10 месяцев назад
@@demi-femme4821 Sure but from what I remember the only time she ever in any way did anything with Dooku was when she brought Savage or the night sisters to aid her and she still failed, and with Anakin and Obi Wan she “survived” the encounters and ran way not really ever truly doing anything. I’m not saying she is terrible but against characters like Dooku, Anakin, and Kenobi she never really defeated them in lightsaber combat meanwhile Grievous actually has beaten Kenobi in a lightsaber duel. In Grievous Intrigue he beats Kenobi until Kenobi pulls a cheap force push to win, Griveous also beat Eeth Koth in the same episode and has also defeated a few other council members throughout the show.
@ReminiscentIndustries
@ReminiscentIndustries 10 месяцев назад
Thus begins one of the best run of episodes in the whole damn series. Hope you two enjoy it.
@ncard00
@ncard00 10 месяцев назад
Talzin was stupid not just killing Dooku asap, he’s a sith, trained to resist pain, stupid writing.
@michellerahe4853
@michellerahe4853 10 месяцев назад
The clone wars keeps getting better and better i can't wait to see your guy's reaction 😄
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
14:38 Yikes! 😂 I completely understand. Count Dooku's story is very interesting though. *No Spoilers* His story kind of reminds me of Anakins. However, the only difference is that he comes from a rich family.
@Netsaver
@Netsaver 10 месяцев назад
Seriously if they see his story they'll see how similar he is to Anakin.
@josh_miester_x511
@josh_miester_x511 10 месяцев назад
"You will die either way". I wonder if she knew what Anakin would do.
@killuazoldyck7216
@killuazoldyck7216 10 месяцев назад
you might not care for grievous and dookus backstory, but they are absolutly not selfserving "dickheads". Grievous has arguably one of the most dramatic backstories, its smiliar to ventress in a sence that his people were wiped out.
@samuelclayhills3298
@samuelclayhills3298 10 месяцев назад
Well Legends Grevious yes. Canon Grevious not so much.
@hunterackerman1697
@hunterackerman1697 10 месяцев назад
You might recognize the Defoliatior from the Jedi Crash Episodes. It really annoys me, because nobody mentions that they do make reappearances. They always complain about the machines appears that appear in Season 1 don't reappear.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
Ah okay. We hadn’t recognized that. Thanks for pointing it out 🙂
@felmaster3534
@felmaster3534 10 месяцев назад
There's a youtuber called Metanerdz Lore who does videos on the full background and lore of characters. It may be surprising, but you may review your stance on Grievous a bit if you watch the two episodes covering his life! Still a monster, but he also has his own tragic elements to him!
@darknessunknown4384
@darknessunknown4384 10 месяцев назад
It's a shame disney bought Star Wars, before the conclusion of Ventress's arc; I really would've loved to see it animated.
@yugioht42
@yugioht42 10 месяцев назад
There’s a small number who were off world when grievous hit. Those who were off world tended to be young and were on journeys. So we’re not counted as full nightsisters yet. Mother talzin also survived by dumping her physical form and going into a new spiritual form. She returned later looking for a new body. The nightsisters were a problem as the Jedi kept a very strict eye on them. Sidious saw them as a bad attempt at recreating the old sith order through patience and breeding programs. The Jedi saw the sisters as a fringe force related group that had some practices that strayed into the dark and kept a close eye on them but they never did anything that bad. The nightsisters were considered a grey area as they used both light and dark abilities yet never fully mastered either, they were somewhere in between yet strayed into light and dark sides quite often.
@samuelclayhills3298
@samuelclayhills3298 10 месяцев назад
This is one of the few times I side with the separatists because the nightsisters where complete trash that deserved to get wiped out especially after what they did to Savage and in the Son of dathomir comic its reveald that Talizin was working with Sidious althoug he did betray them. In Legends Grevious is completley justified in turning evil since the republic and especially the jedi really fucked him and his people over by causing mass starvation on their planet leading to Grevious becoming a loan shark to get food for his people until Dooku blew him upp and with the other separatists brainwashed him into a monster with only his understandable haterd of the Jedi left. In canon he is just a psycho but goddamn I love him more than Ventress any day of the week.
@legobob0239
@legobob0239 10 месяцев назад
You guys gotta watch Tales of the Jedi after you finish the clone wars. It does a really good job of showing the turn of Dooku.
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
This is where the fun begins! I've been looking forward to these episodes! 🙏🏽💪
@joelnyyssonen6375
@joelnyyssonen6375 10 месяцев назад
Ohh you two made it to one of my favorite episodes of the whole show and the start of one of the best arcs in the show. I hope you enjoy it : )
@clarkestomps
@clarkestomps 10 месяцев назад
This episode was bit obvious on how things were going to go but at the same time at least we know what happened to the night sisters .
@chad_holbrook
@chad_holbrook 10 месяцев назад
If you want more of Asajj Ventress there is a great book about her called Dark Disciple. It is a stand alone story but don't watch it until you've finished Clone Wars. I won't spoil anything here or even talk about where it takes place in her timeline (you know how Star Wars like to mess with timelines). When you've finished Clone Wars, I highly recommend you check that out. More time with her is always fun. Is there a love story hidden in there? Maybe.
@yugioht42
@yugioht42 10 месяцев назад
Dooku started his dark path so long before the clone wars. He started his dark path with the killing of council member yaddle. Then the hunt for Komari Vosa. Ending up in sidious’ lap. The problem was qui gon jinn didn’t teach dooku enough when he was knighted. Dooku was apprenticed under both yoda and qui gonn but learned nothing from it.
@anhkriva5274
@anhkriva5274 10 месяцев назад
WTH did i just read? Dooku was qui gonn master not apprentice.
@adriankuban2904
@adriankuban2904 10 месяцев назад
One of best and saddest episodes in Clone Wars
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
Yeah 😢
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
1:40 Oh snaps, I forgot you two played Fallen Order!
@rangerscorpiorac2383
@rangerscorpiorac2383 10 месяцев назад
Other cartoon show are like "we beat him with the power of friendship" This show however, "Pssst, hey kid. Want to watch a genocide?"
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
Yeah 😱
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, its really sad how hard they nerfed Grievous. He's supposed to be a feared Jedi killer, with the skill and experience to back it up. But in Clone Wars and the movies he *barely* does anything.
@blade9657
@blade9657 6 месяцев назад
Lucas always wasting cool characters, like if he wanted a coward, then he shouldn't have given him such a badass design
@Anakinvoorhees
@Anakinvoorhees 10 месяцев назад
Man this show really won’t let Grievous catch a W. They treating him like Baraka in MK
@shugaroony
@shugaroony 9 месяцев назад
Erm, he wins here. The Nightsisters are wiped out.
@Anakinvoorhees
@Anakinvoorhees 9 месяцев назад
@@shugaroony that’s true but he almost never wins lightsaber duels due to plot armor. I’m not saying plot armor is bad but let Grevious show off his skills. He couldn’t even really beat Ventress he just kicked her away and had his droids shoot at her
@lordFrog222
@lordFrog222 10 месяцев назад
This honestly one of my favourite episodes
@jediknightryan
@jediknightryan 10 месяцев назад
I'm a little late this episode! Sorry, been a bit of a rough start to the week, but doing better now. As for the episode itself, this episode is the start of the final arc of season 4. They went very brutal for this arc. Not really much more to say than that, an episode that definitely earns its title. To clear up a few questions, the one that Ventress mentions to Talzin in the beginning is indeed Savage Opress from season 3. As for the question of when Grievous gets what is coming to him, I'm not sure how long it's been since you all have seen the movies or if you haven't seen all of them, but Grievous was first introduced in Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith in 2005 which takes place after the Clone Wars series. So, as much as we might want him to die, he can't in the show since he's in the movie. Also, if you're interested on learning more of Grievous and Dooku's story, Star Wars Explained has videos on both of them. Alex does a very good job giving a lot of information in a clear and concise manner, can't recommend his channel enough. I'd also recommend watching Tales of the Jedi after you're done with the Clone Wars as several of those episodes deal with Dooku specifically. Not many fun facts to cover for this episode (that I can think of anyway). The first being the most obvious, the Nightsister magic is very inspired by voodoo magic in this episode. The doll of Dooku is even listed as a voodoo doll in official sources. Next, we get to see the second (third including a flashback in "Hostage Crisis") and final appearance of the Defoliator tank. We also get to see the return of the Hyena-class Droid Fighter/Bomber in it's first season 4 appearance that wasn't a flashback. This episode also marks the second canon appearance of the undead and the first canon appearance of the Nightsister zombies. That's all I've got for this episode! Can't wait for the next one!
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
Sorry you had a rough start to the week and hopefully the rest of the week goes better 🙂
@jediknightryan
@jediknightryan 10 месяцев назад
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Thanks guys 😊. I'm sure it will!
@Eloryan
@Eloryan 3 месяца назад
Wish it was Sidious suffering the same shit as Dooku was inflicted with
@zac0918
@zac0918 10 месяцев назад
she becomes a bounty hunter and later starts dating a jedi which also ends in tragedy
@zeka8113
@zeka8113 10 месяцев назад
Glad the witches are over
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
😯
@codebread5315
@codebread5315 10 месяцев назад
Always remember, I am fear! Always remember, I am hunter! Always remember, I am filth! Always remember, I am nothing! Lets Go! Clone Wars heating up!
@Drakefance5
@Drakefance5 10 месяцев назад
You two should so rewatch/watch Revenge of the Sith after you finish the clone wars.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 10 месяцев назад
We will 😁
@clarkestomps
@clarkestomps 10 месяцев назад
6:00 seeing them sprint reminds me of COD zombies so much!
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
5:46 IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!
@starkiller169
@starkiller169 10 месяцев назад
Now you guys don't do the villains like that Count Dooku used to be a jedi And he only went to the dark side because He saw that the republic was becoming corrupt But you know how the dark side can corrupt you So dooku lost sight of his ideals And what he was fighting for and became evil
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 10 месяцев назад
10:59 Was that in his eye? It looked like it might have been. It didn't seem to cause any actual damage, though. I guess it was done as a pain-stimulation thing, only.
@Sneg0vic-x5q
@Sneg0vic-x5q 10 месяцев назад
And little Merrin saw it all :(
@warronrampage7371
@warronrampage7371 10 месяцев назад
I mean dooku does have a story
@AngelPerez-tu1nk
@AngelPerez-tu1nk 8 месяцев назад
Watch Tales of the Jedi so you can see why Dooku fell to the dark side
@jackson857
@jackson857 5 месяцев назад
You're going to need to watch Tales of the Jedi so you can understand Dooku more.
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
8:59 🙏🏽💪
@lucasankar9544
@lucasankar9544 10 месяцев назад
Watch tales of the jedi, 3 episodes showing dookus backstory and explains why he went to the dark side. Very good show and i highly recommend it!
@SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited
@SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited 10 месяцев назад
In my opinion grevious was great but the jedi ruined his life in part by refusing to help him save his planet from invasion then proceed to help the invaders when grevious is winning
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
9:50 👀
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 10 месяцев назад
7:24 👀💪
@rauder3849
@rauder3849 10 месяцев назад
2003 Grievous is the only real Grievous.
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