@@Draelyn what I mean it's kinda like the ww2 f4f wildcat not the best fighter but was there to hold the line long enough for the the US to make the f6f hellcat to beat the Japanese zero plane
I don’t think the Corsair was available for some time either. I agree with him. The alliance relied older ships like headhunters and y-wings until better ships came along.
The -65 and -70 are my favorites, mainly due to aesthetics. The -70 looks like a high preformance sports car whereas the -65 looks like a hot rod muscle car, if that makes sense.
@@SnowyRedstone I kinda like it. Feels like a progression from the wartime combat focused X-wings to the defensive police-type ships they were used for. Less sleek looking.
I’d love for you to cover some of the Legends series X-Wing models, since they were quite innovatively written and designed, especially the XJ series and the iconic StealthX, which is something I 100% want to see recanonised.
The ARC 170 was surely inspired by the Northrop P61, it had a similar crew's layout. Beautiful CGI rendering, the T65 had always been my favourite in the family, perhaps bcz was so innovative in sci-fi design 👍💞
I was always a huge fan of the P-61 Black Widow too! I wish they could have done more with the ARC-170. I thought more ships should have tail gunners- It would have been much more difficult for the Empire to defend the trench on the Death Star if the Rebel ships had a tail gun.
My knowledge of Star Wars is less extensive than that of Trek, so it was really great to see this visual journey of the X-wing
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Back in the 90’s in the X-Wing games, I have 2 Star Destroyers kill assigned to my crazy piloting skills. Back them it was believed that a Star Destroyer could not be killed. When showing 2 to my friends, they were in awe.
4:18 I either have misheard something or you just said "photon torpedo launcher". As far as I know photon torpedos are unknown in Star Wars and they have Proton torpedos instead.
Yeah, photon torpedoes are from Star Trek and are much larger. Star Wars only seems to use proton torpedoes. I guess since both sound alike, Half Screen got the two mixed up.
Seriously, the XJ series was great. So great in fact that the New Jedi Order took the design as the basis for the new Jedi Starfighter, the StealthX, by stripping out as much unnecessary gear from the X-Wings as possible to make them even lighter and more maneuverable than their already incredible standard counterparts. Anything the Jedi could use the Force to replace got removed.
Wait, the T-70 X-Wing design seems to be incorrect. Shouldn't the lower wings have its wings positioned on the forward side? So that when the S Foils are closed it would properly align into a wide wingspan instead of a thicker one. Or was than an older, prototype design?
The T-85 is what the T-70 should've been and makes more sense than just trying to look cool. Also, a X-wing's wings don't do much if anything for lift or maneuverability anyway, though the spacing of the thrusters might help some. Spacing out the cannons might assist in the chance that a pilot will hit their target in a dogfight... like they used to do in WW2 & WW1. 🤔
yes, the wings shown here are incorrect. the upper wings are positioned farther back and the lower wings are forward so that, yes, when the S-foils are not needed, they form one single wing when closed.
The T-65B will always be my favourite; despite any apparent "improvements" to the design, for the T-70 or T-85, I'd be very happy & oh-so-proud to own my own T-65B 😍🥰❤️
Bitter Brit You don't have to like them, and that's fine I don't really like them either, but the T-70 and T-85 are canonical improvements. Being bitter about it won't change anything.
Always had the feeling that the X-wing, considering how long it's hull is, could benefit from a rear-firing laser cannon, possibly operated by the droid.
Dang, can you imagine being a TIE Fighter pilot and your commander orders you and your squadron to engage a flight of X-Wings.... You have numerical advantage but you also know that one of you is going to be fodder so that the other pilots can have a chance at killing the X-Wing. Even on a successful battle you'd be seeing a third or even half your squadron get obliterated after the fight was over. Kinda feel sorry for the poor souls who end up as a TIE Fighter.
*A shame they always get Brian Daley's Z95 Headhunter wrong.* 😿😩 _Z-95 Headhunters; compact, twin-engined swing-wing craft with forked tails, hard points for mounting external ordinance, & three laser cannon per wing. It was legendary for the amount of punishment it could soak up. Its pilot’s seat-the “easy chair,” -was set back at a thirty-degree angle to help offset gee-forces, the control stick built into its armrest._ from Brian Daley's's first Star Wars novel: Han Solo at star's end
@@Halfscreen Few small points: The 16.7 meter Z-95 is a separate model from the one pictured here, specially built for the Clone troopers, and has only two engines. And the 12.71 m length for the ARC-170 seems introduced in sources for the cartoon: before that, for Revenge of the Sith, it was listed at 14.5 meters, I recall.
3:33 Neither 1000kph or 2600kph are hypersonic. They are supersonic speeds. Hypersonic is mach 4.5 to 5.5+ at minimum. At least for earths atmosphere. In fact 1000kph isn't even supersonic. It's approximately 0.8 mach in earths atmosphere. Unless this is based on some very thin fantasy planets atmosphere.
Want to mention the Z-95 and Clone-Z-95 were 2 different designs. The Clone Z-95 was slimmer and had only 2 engines while the original Z-95 had 4 and was smaller. The Z-96 though was a successor of both variants which didn't have many production numbers so is less known.
The T-70 split engines make little sense, like, surely it's a rotating turbine of some sort ... and by splitting said "rotating turbine" would totally disable it functioning as a turbine and I can't think of anything else that would replace it ... ? anyone else care to weigh in on the split engine ... Also, I'm not criticizing your work as it's top notch as per usual, though I am questioning the original designers design decisions as they don't seem to make any sense
i agree, but I think they're not supposed to be rotating turbines, they just look like it and it's simply a design choice. I also don't think they would make much sense during this time in the star wars universe since concepts like actual turbines are *mostly* old and outdated
@@MarcLevins yeah and I guess, turbines mainly need "Air" to run and this thing spends most of it's time in an "airless" environment, hmmm, but cheers for your input 😊😊
I wish you did a better job distinguishing between canon and legends information. You showed and described the legends version of the Z95, but then also showed Clone Wars footage of the canon Z95.
2:20 it didn't have an astromech Droid and did NOT have hyperdrive capabilities. So the pilot would not have to preenter coordinates for hyperdrive as it did not have the function
Well done, as always. Do you have a similar video on the evolution of the Tie Fighters? The later Tie Defender and Super Tie Defender (Rebels) were pretty impressive, and dangerous.
My family went and saw this movie on my say so because I heard it had a strong Father/Daughter story. We all liked it. Did emasculating the male leads hurt the film? Yes. If Edgin had a sword on his belt he clearly knew how to use, some thief and magic skills, LIKE A BARD, this would have been a much better movie and I'd want to see the sequel even more. Still a really entertaining movie.
I'm an amateur writer. I can imagine being hired to write for something like the Witcher. Not my favorite thing ever, but I have bills to pay. (I actually did really like Season 1 of the show though.) However, if I took the job, first thing I would do is sit down and read the stories and watch the games being played. I'd also read a good bit of the fan commentary to see what they liked, felt was important, didn't like, etc. Only then would I start to write and try to write in a way that would please the fans. That's respect for the fans. If I screwed up anyway, I'd be able to say honestly, "I thought you would like it because of this and this." I think the fans would be patient under those circumstances and we could always get better as ST: TNG did after the first season.
The thing is, you're never going to please everyone. It also depends entirely on how much time you have and how much studio meddling happens. These things are never as easy as you're trying to make them sound.
Missing the T-wing and E-wing which were successors to the X-wing not to mention Ralph Mcquaries concept designs which you could say they were precursors to the X-wing
Z-95 to the T-65 were good, classic is iconic for good reason, and the other 2 designs have some serious design and aesthetic problems. 70's S foil design foregoes the clean x shape of the original, having the hinges right there on the outside rather than running through the center, while the 85 keeps the faults of the 70 and looks like a knockoff X wing made to be legally distinct so as not to get copyrighted. I get its meant to be a ship from the height of the new republics power when they have actual proper production lines and facilities, but they took it too far from the classic drag car frame look. Z-95 and the ARC-170 I have less issue with, created with the idea of them being previous iterative designs that at first underengineered and undergunned the craft, then overengineered the ship, to say noting of having 3 clones in a single vessel and that it takes 10 years to grow each one, and combined the two into just the right mix of speed, manueverability, and firepower to make it a general purpose craft.
Once upon a time, being the IP holder gave absolute power over a franchise. That day is done. If the IP holder insists on not bringing out new content or bringing out garbage content, we can now make our own. I invite all my fellow Trekkers to enjoy another unauthorized novel completely free. Just google Star Trek Lost Destiny Race.
if the t85 had more powerful weapons... I think I would enjoy flying that X wing. Besides newer ship... means more shiny toys to play with. Not to mention if it intergrated the manervability of the 70 yet the fire power and multy class I would love flying that one.
You may find you’ll likely get more and wider fan appreciation if you cover ORIGINAL timeline content as well as Disney timeline In this scenario, you missed the updated XJ series of x wings often flown by jedi, and upgraded in ways that made it a better fit for a jedi to fly After that was the STEALH-X
@@gups4963 the StealthX did not appear until after the Yuuzhan Vong War, you may be thinking of the XJ3. If I recall correctly the StealthX came into use during the Killik Crisis and only became a primary weapon of the Jedi Order during the Second Galactic Civil War against Darth Caedus.
Actually the X-Wing was intended for the empire it was built by incom x wings split apart because it helped cool the engines increase maneuverability and give a wider weapons range it also was designed for atmospheric combat it was also defined defined to be the backbone of the rebel. And when the company that designed the X-Wing join the rebel alliance they supplied them with parts blueprints and technical data on the X-Wing so the alliance could supply their fleet with this dreaded Starfighter that was responsible for the destruction of the first death Star and assist it in the destruction of the second death star the destruction of starkiller base and the defeat of the emperor's galactic empire hopes along with the Star destroyers with planet killer weapons
Aerodynamics are useless in space, no air. Star Wars ship designs and strategies are for aerial dynamics but in space aerodynamics don't apply. Larger ships are designed like battleships and fight like they're on water rather than in space. I think they drew too much from WW2 dogfights and naval battles. Star Trek does space battles realistically staying more within the laws of physics. Have you ever thought about doing the Normandy and Normandy SV-2 and SV-2 upgrade in Mass Effect? Great designs and the space battles are a bit more realistic.
Shad at Shadiversity would love you for your comment about aerodynamics and space combat. You should check his video on that very subject. Speaking of which, Shad did say the closest star fighter that got the design right for space combat is the Star Fury from Babylon 5.
@@whitewolf3051 I'll have to check that channel out, I like science, astrophysics in particular. About the most realistic space flight using aerial like maneuvers in space is from Deep Impact using thrusters around the shuttle to steer. Fixed thrust engines are great for going in one direction, wings are pointless without an atmosphere and they don't have directional thrust so I don't know how they steer. In Star Trek they use warp technology to essentially pull the ship like it's on a rope that can bend and twist in 4 dimensions rather than any kind of thrust. In Mass Effect they use dark matter and Quantum Wave Theory in kind of the same way, compression and rebound
@@ll7868 Just to let you know, he does mostly medieval weapon, medieval martial art, and things of that nature. If you want to see his video on spaceships, use the words "Shadiversity Spaceship" to get the videos on spaceships.
I much prefer this over the way they did it in legends where they tried to replace it with the E wing, if the X wing was so good why would they get rid of it
I came here to point out that the model of the z-70 is just wrong,... The wing actually nest because the lower two have cut outs in the rear of the wing while the upper wings have forward cut outs... His wings are all the same and I suppose that is a relic of him mirroring one wing while building these up.
I want to believe that someday, some crazy billionaire (maybe trillionaire) who's been introduce to Star wars by his great grandfather or something will actually build a real functioning X-Wing or other very well known fictional space craft in a time when nearly anyone be truly able to go in space.
Are you sure the X-Wing has 3,700G instead of 3.700G? If an X-Wing can accelerate at 3,700G, how does the pilot not turn into pancake every time the X-Wing makes an evasive maneuver?
Sorry but I thought the rebels stole most of the designs from the empire... The millennium falcon was an imperial ship, the Nebulon B frigate, the A wing, etc The rebels upgraded what they had over time but never created any of their vehicles
The millennium falcon proves that it could withstand more hits and destroy more TIE Fighters than the X-Wing could. This tells the fighters needed to be bigger, armored with gun turrets and thrusters for better maneuverability. A single millenium falcon could destroy an entire X-Wing squadron too
@@HabitualButtonPusher the millennium falcon has reverse thrusters and directional thrusters too allowing it to brake and perform tight maneuver getting into around tunnels inside capital ship, star base & giant worm as seen in PC Game Rebel Assault and the few star wars movies.
Id argue the falcon is a heavily modified yt1300 and per unit cost you can probably afford 2 maybe 3 x wings over one falcon type 1300 with the list of upgrades it has. X wings are also smaller and less susceptible getting hit with larger weapons
@@clpfox470 Rebel Alliance could have invested the money to build large fighters equivalent to millenium falcon armor but having firepower of B-Wing. The millennium falcon seems to be able to withstand multiple shots from Star Destroyer that would have destroyed entire X-Wing and Y-Wing squadron. Quality over quantity
@@jayjay53313 as a single seat long range multirole fighter, the xwing was good enough and good enough is perfect in engineering. Sure they could of and they would eventually with the kwing but the alliance couldn't really afford the wonder weapons the empire could till much later. And quality wise the xwing was supior to the mass production tie fighers especially where it counted in endurance, range, and multirole capability
The first X-Wing ever seen was in the Ralph Mcquarrie Death Star Trench Run painting. it was what you call T-70 with the split engine. What you call the T-65 with the 4 full cylinder engines was the one used in the first movie. Your CGI rendering is not an accurate rendering of it. The rear cylinders are smaller, and significantly offsett from the centerline of the front cylinder. You also don't show the closed front 4 engine full cylinder version seen in another Ralph Mcquarrie original painting. Because of that version I don't refer to either end as "intake or exhaust" respectively. They may be so but I don't assume they are. Neither do I assume their internal workings are turbines. That would be impossible for the split cylinder. Very likely the miniature making engineers recognized this mechanical inconsistency in the Mcquarrie painting, and made the filming models full cylinders. Later CGI split cylinder versions were used on screen because CGI renderers don't have much background in engineering or art. You didn't do your research very well. Just made a lot of stuff up.
Most of the 3D model i used was downloaded on the web to save time since modeling an accurate 3D model is a time-consuming process, and unfortunately, usually not 100% accurate. On RU-vid, you literally have at most 5-7 days to produce weekly content, hence why most SW channel only use still image or videos from the previous movie and rarely ever use 3D models let alone an accurate one.
@@Halfscreen I'm not a fanboy but in a few hours even I could find better support, and compose a better fact based history of the X-Wing. Only took 15 minutes to illustrate more flaws in your video than just inaccurate CGI models. If you started with more intelligent information you could have composed a more accurate history faster. Not trying to be mean. Just giving you some benefit of my experience. I have built major tools used to build some of the grandest air, and spacecraft of the passed quarter century.. Also made the heart of the LHC.
@@dpsamu2000 I don't have any doubt I have flaws in my videos and I do what I can with the time available at my disposal, even if the model is inaccurate. In all honesty, the channel is really focused on just basic information for the average joe. Besides, my channel is now more focused on Star Trek instead of Star Wars.
I didn't realize they went so fast. at a 100MLight would be able to travel from end to end of the Milky Way Galaxy within 8~9 hours. I'll just assume their universe is in a galaxy far far BIGGER than ours. But then again we can fly to any part of earth in about 24 hours and there still isn't a single ruler of the earth so perhaps their galaxy only needs to be a little bigger and there are plenty of large galaxies out there...
100 megalights is not a multiple of lightspeed - 'megalights' comes from an old Industrial Light and Magic concept chart for rough ship speeds, and seems to refer to sublight velocity. Hyperdrive speeds are widely variable, @White Bunny , ranging from only a bit over a thousand light years per hour, in some references, to as high as over 12,000 light years per hour - and in recent Disney Films, even faster than that. So I guess the comparison you list does sort of work, now.
why do all these 3D renders look SO wrong? The wings are all cut off to short, and most if not all the dimensions are wrong. Then to have some in there that are very close to correct makes you scratch your head and say why if they have a few models/renders that are very close to being correct that so many are so very wrong?
Who writes this rubbish? Not the video, that's well put together, I mean what are presumably official stats. Hypersonic is 5x Supersonic, putting it at over 6K Kph. 1K Kph isn't even Supersonic, it's Transonic. Star Wars writers need to learn how to use Wikipedia.
Because they're also designed to operate in atmosphere, a fact exploited heavily in the Legends X-Wing novels. Several kills against TIE Fighters are achieved because of the X-Wing's superior aerodynamics in air combat vs the terrible aerodynamics of the TIE models, namely the frequency of the wind catching the inside of the solar panel wings and causing the TIEs to go into an uncontrollable tumble while attempting to mimic the same maneuvers the X-Wings were capable of. Just because you have a ship that can operate in space doesn't mean it can't be designed with atmosphere in mind too.
@@Halfscreen if you happen to want to mention what was told to a Human "fan" Incom/Friteck employee from a Togorian Law Enforcement specialist who is contemplating joining the New Republic Rangers with design ideas I could make that happen🤷🏿♂️😁.
5:22 G is not a speed. G has to do with forces on the pilot. You can go lots of speeds and change the g from angling and other factors. It is not a reference to speed at all. Why are the values randomly using different measurements. Hypersonic is a speed above approximately mach 5. Though it can vary in how it's referenced. None of these speed values make any sense or have any baring in reality. It's like measuring distance and using liters. It makes even less sense because hypersonic is only in atmosphere. It's compared to the speed of sound which is related specifically to the atmosphere you are in and how it effects the speed of sound per atmosphere and location. Speed of sound changes in real life in earths atmosphere. This means hypersonic of 3700g is nonsense or a mismatched reference to maximum g forces. And I think 3700 g force is enough to destroy a small planet. Fairly sure normal training and operational g forces are at worst 15g. Most pilots I think do training to 9 g in testing. I think with the more extreme artificial testing up to 15g.
It means straight line acceleration, @Random User . Hypersonic refers to atmospheric speed, which was in 5 digits for the ARC-170. 3700 G would equal almost 36.3 km a second, if using a standard Earth G. I assume that's maximum acceleration, but the Cross Section books are not too detailed on that regard. Or hypersonic was just a misquote for 'atmospheric' by Halfscreen, I suppose. And 'megalights' comes from an old in movie concept art speed chart, before migrating into the video games as a speed marker.
