Star Wars Theory Needs The Force (to Understand The Acolyte) 

The subtext is blatant - IF you're read into commie gobbledegook - and politically unengaged and illiterate 'citizens' are easy prey for what ought to be recognized and called out immediately as crass agitprop. 'Bad writing' is a second order problem here-- its purpose _"is not to persuade or convince ... _*_but to humiliate_*_ and so the less it corresponds to reality the better. when people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies - or even worse when they are force to repeat the lies themselves - they lose their sense of probity. TO assent to obvious lies is to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is eroded. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."_ -- Theo Dalrymple

2/3 And I’m not surprised some fans are skeptical of Headland. Why do Lucasfilm let a creative come in and decide what is going to be canon? Is Headland going to make Star Wars projects going forwards, or just disappear like Johnson, because KK claimed she wanted to find creators who can commit years at a time. The last things fans want is one creator coming in and doing whatever personal project they feel like and then disappearing. Fans should give a creator the benefit of the doubt and some leeway, but this show looks CHEAP, like most of them do, and fans are wondering why that $180m wasn’t spent making a better Obi-Wan show or BoBF show. I don’t really understand the need to bring Wuxia into Star Wars. What’s wrong with sci-fi, westerns, samurai and fairytales? That’s plenty broad enough. The Disney era have made planets dull, lightsaber duels dull and aliens dull. the galaxy is no longer exciting. “And now it’s happening and people are saying this breaks canon.” I think these witches and the show are boring. And I think that’s the problem. It’s all very well trying to make a connection between threads and Daoism, but the Force was also a metaphor. And the cast have been a great pains to say that basically “good is a point of view” (which is not really Lucas’ intention). There is nuance between good and evil in the saga, but the cast getting excited about trying to make the Jedi look bad is weird. This has a lot TLJ vibes, where they had a choice creatively, and each time they selected something that would likely piss fans off.

3/3 “He obviously doesn’t understand how to watch a show and critique it and pay attention to the details.” This show has totally failed in its marketing, because Headland mentioned Frozen and Kill Bill, and is all anyone talked about. It’s all very well mocking SWT, but where did Lucas ever push the idea of Jedi being “crusaders”? Your examples are a comic and animated show from the Disney era. Why is it so important to you to control how people perceive the show. SWT gives his own opinion. “Only our people can control this.” Where did Lucas ever imply that about the Force? Pablo Hidalgo? He used to be the IT guy at Lucasfilm. I don’t know why he became the arbiter of what is and isn’t. Lucas has said that the current content isn’t what he intended. Marcia Lucas and Howard Kazanjian said JJ and KK didn’t understand the characters, Jedi, or story. Sure, all art incorporates ideas from our culture and history. But that doesn’t mean that they need to insert things like “oppression” into the saga in such a clumsy way. “They wouldn’t have been on Brendok if they hadn’t been discriminated against.” That’s not really a rational argument. You’re saying the show makes sense because what it claims is now canon. Lucas specifically said the galaxy is full of diversity in its aliens. The only ones discriminated against are droids (and droids serve the story function of the peasants in Hidden Fortress). Just saying ‘SWT doesn’t *understand* the themes’ is not a valid justification to dismiss his opinion and anyone who agrees with him. If the intention of the creator and what they want it to be about automatically overrules the subjective experience of the viewer, than there’s no reason to ever critique any art; the artist’s intentions are what the viewer must agree and comply with, regardless of whether they execute those ideas properly? That’s ridiculous. I could make the case that Headland *doesn't understand* Star Wars because she's intent on regurgitating ideas from the prequels without doing anything bold or imaginative. I could say she doesn't *understand* that inserting modern day culture topics is not the same as timeless wisdom that Lucas wove into his saga, and misses the point about good vs evil. The whole point of Lucas' work was each person could CHOOSE their own destiny and make the moral choice, and even redeem themselves through making the right choice, but there was still a clearly defined good and evil. Making a show and saying, 'but who is really good or evil' is NOT the message Lucas was ever communicating. All these Disney era creators can do is make spin-offs that commentate on what Lucas made with boring characters, instead of making something genuine new that invigorates the franchise, while working within its mindset.

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This isn’t a both sides situation. SWT is clearly a grifter with no real analysis. To him it’s just woke wars. It’s like saying an exterminator( urban acolyte) is inhumane for setting rat trips ( this video exposing SWT idiocy)

​@@DSTRAZ98he is not a grifter you people are just dishonest

@@ThisisKyle "You People" don't have.a handle on Lucas's philosophy then cry about culture war nonsense

​@@ThisisKyleagreed. He isnt a grifter. People are trying to rationalize acolyte, we have heard the leslye headland interviews and we know she doesnt even understand her own product.

Legends isn't cannon.

@@jamiealisson8298 well, Cortosis from EU is now canonised clever clogs.

@@jamiealisson8298 Yeah I know, was just stating what I said. George only considers his movies, as well as Clone Wars and Rebels at the time was canon.

@@RAWFLAVA and was he specifically talking about cortosis? No he wasn't so pipe down.

@@novanin1 I guess.

The show doesn't undermine Anakin's birth. Pay attention to the details. Don't add anything that isn't explicitly stated. In my Hebrew Bible class, I watched 1/4 of my classmates fail an exam for inferring something that WAS NOT explicitly stated.

@@UrbanAcolyte sometimes things don’t need to be explicitly stated to be understood. This isn’t the Hebrew bible filled with parables and teachings for real world problems, this is Star Wars. If every show constantly stated why specific things were happening, people would have no reason to use their brain and engage in the show to try to figure out what’s going on. They wouldn’t need to, so we can’t establish a baseline where information can only be confirmed if it is explicitly stated, also I just want to say I respect your opinion and am not trying to sound arrogant or angry!

@incy000 They always need to be explicitly stated if you want to make a passing grade 😉

@@UrbanAcolytethat sounds like really boring television, I personally like to figure things out for myself, without it being laid out for me in dialogue

@incy000 You know what else is boring? Criminal trials where guilt must be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. You can only be certain of 2 things: Aniseya "created" the twins, and Koril carried them in her womb.

Why because he has a different opinion to yours? This is why we don't take you Disney shills seriously 😂.

@@jamiealisson8298 Opinion? What are you on about? He's busy coining in views for you to indulge in his whinge-fests while he makes silly parody videos now tailor made for fake SW fans like you. In the meantime...he's also busy selling his sabers instead of making content his channel purports to be about. Stop shilling for SWT 🤣🤪🤫

Opinion? What are you on about? He's busy coining in views for you to indulge in his whinge-fests while he makes silly parody videos now tailor made for fake SW fans like you. In the meantime...he's also busy selling his sabers instead of making content his channel purports to be about. Stop shilling for SWT 🤣🤪🤫

@@jamiealisson8298 Opinion? He's busy monetizing views for you to indulge in his whinge-fests while he makes silly parody SW videos now tailor made for fake fans like you. In the meantime...he's also busy selling his sabers instead of making content his channel purports to be about. Stop shilling for SWT 🤣🤪

@@jamiealisson8298 his shallow opinions have become less relevant now as he appeals to fake fans like you. He's all about getting views, making daft parody videos now instead of making content that his channel purports to be about. Stop shilling for Theory Sabers 🤣🤪✋️

While you are correct it’s easy to get super pretentious with that kind of thing and end up treating the force reductively instead of insightfully if jay makes sense lol

Are you talking about disney or starwars fans? I hate both equally And the disney bootlickers like the housen in this video

Just getting into high Republic novels myself. Have you read most of them?

Almost everyone predicted what was happening in the show, nearly everyone knew that qimir what's going to be the supposed secret sith Lord it was so obvious and then by episode 4 you have to be mentally ill and brain dead to somehow be shocked at the sith reveal. The story was marketed as a sith POV story and for 98.9 percent of the show it was nothing like that. The extended universe did the sith point of view story way better with the Darth plagueis novel, and the Darth bane trilogy of novels... Go read or listen to the audiobook version of those for a real sith story that's infinitely better than this trash

How stupid are you? Criticism and negativity aren't inherently bad things, just like how positivity for the sake of positivity is usually not a good thing. People tend to forget toxic positivity is often far worse than any sort of negativity can muster

Do you still think that after seeing episode 6?

How do you feel about it now that it's over?

Will it's not going to change anything cuz the show is dead, it's not getting another season you people were such a tiny minority you weren't enough to keep the show afloat. A cost way too much to produce and the Creator had no idea what real Star wars was about she couldn't even understand that Star wars is a story about Good vs evil not about shades of grey. Yin and yang scenario which is not true it's objectively false.... The light side is balance in dark side is imbalance that's how it's always been since Lucas and that's how Lucas created it and she couldn't even get that right

"All these factions just have different philosophies to explain the same thing. Just like different religions have their own creation myths and saviors and the stories all seem similar." And this is what baffles me to hear SWT thinks the witches somehow "contradict" current understanding of the Force. Like, they don't. They're just one of many Force-religions that have their own perspective on it. But it's all the same thing, regardless of their approach to it. It's all about what works for *them*. Which is... honestly not so different from the many real-world beliefs in magic, or the divine.

@@andrewjenkins9965except in new Disney canon magic is separate from the force entirely. yup you heard that right. They retconned a lot of the things we knew to be true about Star Wars. The longer you see it you’ll realize it’s true

@@usernameonutube where in canon has it ever stated that?

@@andrewjenkins9965 they say things but have no evidence for it. While disney has been folding aspects and concepts of star wars legends into cannon.

​@@mannyrivera4119well then why don't you go and look up what they did to Vernestra in the show as a character assassinated her from her betrayals in the high Republic novels. Or how they broke kyber Crystal bleeding cannon from the Darth Vader canonical comic series...

lol well that didn't last long

I took a break from Star Wars for 4 years. I don't know if I have the time to grow this channel - this isn't my only RU-vid channel, but I appreciate the sentiment 👍

I agree completely. I just wish they would do it a bit more competently. I was looking forward to the show a lot and I feel many of the ideas fall flat due to bad writing.

U right he no good no more both

That's cos all either of them ever did was read off wookieepedia.

Right on. Plus his arrogance and tendency toward dark side behavior (like yelling and cursing me out during a live once). It's sadly happened to a lot of youtubers. I get chasing money, but what happened to integrity?

What do you mean alienate people the tiny minority of people are the the stupid people who call everyone a bigot who doesn't like the show. And it's a fact objective fact that you people are the minority because you weren't enough to keep this shity show alive.

​@@kaygee2121oh you mean integrity like Kyle katarn in Star wars explained taking in essentially bribes from Disney to review their games in a positive light... And if they don't they will lose access to interviews and to gift bags worth tens of thousands of dollars and free merch.... The same people with integrity that pushed a deplatforming campaign against Star wars theory of the RU-vidrs while trying to lie to RU-vid staff and manipulate evidence by showing clips from other people's videos and taking them out of context in hopes that they can get these people's channels removed? Give me that kind of integrity? Honesty? In Star wars theory comes out with the receipts showing that these people have been anklebiters from the very start. Also I just kind of sounds like you're still salty over that because why would you mention that he yelled at you in a stream which I don't believe for a moment unless you can cite your sources

so well put. all the critiques from all these star wars channels are so easily dismantled but then the gerber fed parrots pick it up and start spreading it to every comment section.

@@treasuredcollectibles Exactly! It’s just ridiculous at this point. I literally haven’t seen a valid criticism against the Acolyte aside from the diversity quota ruining immersion a bit. But it just really doesn’t affect the story whatsoever. It’s just brain numbing to listen to the hordes of drones who’ve probably never read a Star Wars book. And half of them literally admit they haven’t even seen the show, yet they still comment! 🤣

His channel name isn’t even related to what he actually does. When your name is called “Star Wars Theory” it's best to stick with what your name suggests. Make theories about Star Wars, not criticize it, and bully the fans who actually enjoy this franchise regardless of who is in charge of it.

Star Wars theory has been incredibly respectful to the fans that enjoy this content and is only giving his opinion and thoughts, which are shared with a lot of the fan base. Why are you trying to box him into one category cos of his name… he a creator and it’s his channel he can do whatever he wants and is allowed to share his opinion, no one’s forcing you to watch it so why do you care. Y’all just being haters to be haters

@@jamesmontgomery7826 *cough* Levi *cough*

Called dog whistling​@@jamesmontgomery7826

@@GalvatronsLair “Fans” like that can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA to respond with hate towards anything they see as different that way.☝🏿😌

Haha - I'm not going to watch his episode 4 video unless absolutely necessary - meaning a bunch of you guys are watching it. His episode 3 video came up in the Facebook group from the oldest vocal guy in the community. This guy is positive about EVERYTHING. His Star Wars knowledge would spin circles around every creator on the platform (he taught me all about the backlash after Empire Strikes Back when I was only 9 months old 🤣) Anyway, Rudy is the most positive guy about everything, and he came out and said he can't take this nonsense from Nia/SWT anymore. The "Big Dummy" part in the video is a nod to Rudy

Wow I completely agree with comment. Doesn’t always happen so smoothly 😎

Thanks for sharing 👍

@PennyForMyThoughts-ry3nw A lot of people see THOD from what it is, a boring mediocre cash grab that no one would watch if there weren’t dragons in it.

The Song of Fire and Ice was a story that encapsulated virtually everything interesting about that universe. It would have made more sense to build around one of the more prominent stories alluded to in the series like when the Targaryens/ Valeryons went to the unnamed Magic lands where they absconded with the dragons, or the first encounter with the Undead that required all houses to contribute to building the great wall and guarding it. Or they could have followed Arya Stark on her Odyssey beyond the known world, or They could have honed in on the etymology of the Lord of Light or God of Many Faces or how the faces got on some trees.….but No, no they have to try wring every last penny out of the IP by starting in the most bland corners of the timeline first. They decided to tell a story about feeble man and his mostly corrupt family squabbling over assets that none of them earned it’s a story anyone could have easily imagined based on GOT and the first few appearance of Veseryus Targaryen and his lack of capability. At this point you just want to engage in an argument, I know you’re falling asleep like everyone else until the dragons show up. The difference is pretty simple actually…In GOT there isn’t a clear competition of ideologies that inherently lends itself to being re-wrapped a multitude of times.

@PennyForMyThoughts-ry3nw So were the people that enjoyed the Prequels on release and you see how that turned out over time. (I happened to be one). As time goes on and the social “concerns” of today that are projecting from some corners weighing far too heavily on the stories melt away people will admit that it was better than it was treated on release and HOD was treated better than it deserved. In Star Wars there’s always at least two of these well known ideologies in conflict that everyone is familiar with and can relate to.

Awesome!

Brick and screws 😜

Arguments in this video there are nothing but straw man argument and what about isms.. he also got several points of information about this show wrong and didn't even understand that the acolyte broke high Republic Cannon and got the kyber crystal bleeding Cannon incorrect... Vernestra (green lady) was character assassinated hard in the accolade from her portrayal in the high Republic novels, she's a completely different person in the show and no one talks about it and whenever you talk to people about it who Loved this show they just get butthurt and try to deny it and then when you cite your sources and list all the novels she was in they just block you and it's really funny because it seems like most of the act like fans don't know anything about the lore that they are that they're defending

@@ninvusoogoar6098 I admit I am not up to date on all the Republic canon, but isn't she much younger in the novels? Like over 100 years younger? The reason I ask is because one of the themes of the show seems to be how the bureaucracy of the Jedi was one of the components that led to their downfall. It is my understanding that in the books she had not yet ascended to the level she was at within the order and that working within that bureaucracy changed her over time. And let's be real here. Star Wars have never been 'perfect' as far as canon and lore goes. The Acolyte certainly wasn't, but, I sill enjoyed it because I love Star Wars. I have for over 40 years now. I find it funny how fans are getting all nitpicky now over writing and dialog when the OG trilogy was full of campy dialog, not to mention the prequels. But whatever man, you do you and I'll do me. I don't like to waste time on negativity because it serves no real purpose.

@@troubleondemand7703 negativity is no worse then positivity, you need both in life and only an idiot would only want positivity or negativity. The issue with Verne in her betrayal on the acolyte compared to the novels is she's two completely different characters down to her motivations and personality. She would never do any of the choices that she didn't act like because she's not a scumbag type character she's actually an extremely hopeful and wise character in the novels. Problem is changing a character so drastically then so completely off screen over a Time Gap is really trash writing. It's the same problem people had with Luke Skywalker in The last Jedi movie where they took a character and completely and utterly changed every facet of him to the degree that it's not the same character anymore and they did it off screen. Having an 80 year time gap between the novels and the acolyte is no excuse for her portrayal shown in the TV show. It's bad writing and it's Cannon breaking. In the show break several bits of Cannon elsewhere in the novels as well as the kyber crystal bleeding seen. and you're more than welcome to like bad shows I like the Sharknado movies but I would never lie to people and say they're good. It is 100% okay to enjoy the show, my motto is it's okay to like a bad movie or show so long as you're honest about its quality or lack thereof. That's why I like monster movies but I would never lie to someone and say they're good simply because I enjoyed them, you get me There's a major difference between campy writing and bad writing, I know Disney fans love to try to blur those lines because it tries to make Disney seem more competent than they really are, however does a disservice to the fandom and to Star wars itself to try to compare the two in that fashion. And always keep this in mind true fans of something do not blindly love anything that has the branding, those are called casuals or brand fans. Real fans are people who are fans of the contents portrayal and how close it is to the spirit of the franchise, be a Tolkien be at Warhammer Star Trek or Star wars. Being a fan does not mean you have to like or love everything in Star wars, a lot of people have that misconception but they're wrong. And like I said you are allowed to like the acolyte no one can take that from you. And positivity for the sake of positivity serves no purpose either other than to Huf copium. And like I said you need both the positive and the negative in life and same with our entertainment having a negative opinion is not a bad thing so long as you're able to articulate it, we're going to details about it. The same goes for positivity and a lot of people tend to forget that toxic positivity is just as bad if not worse than negativity at its worst. Also no one's ever made the claim that Star wars is perfect but there's a far cry difference between some of the Campiness and silliness of the original trilogy or prequel trilogies and then just horrible writing bad plot and horrible character development from the Disney stuff, to such a degree that most scenes do not function in universe in a logical way.. where the prequels and the original trilogy actually do function in the universe. I know it's pretty common for Disney fans to try to make the Lucas stuff look bad in order to try to prop up the bad Disney stuff, it's a bit silly and I never understood why but I just chalked it up to weird Disney adults or something like that.

@@ninvusoogoar6098 Calling me an idiot in the first sentence of your reply makes it a very easy decision to ignore you. Maybe the reason you get blocked isn't because you make sound arguments, but because you are a jerk. And that's a polite way of putting it. Ciao.

That's nice 🙂

@@UrbanAcolyte Riiigghht... so this is your idea of a "not as clumsy as other creators" and "elegant" discussion of star wars? Just brush of anyone that doesn't agree with you and pretend it doesn't exist?... k bro 🙄

womp womp ur garbage show got canceled

Seems like the dude gave up. He was going along with the show doing episode reviews, then just stopped after 6.

@@HishUnderscore lmao even he couldn’t finish it

@@roguexxrenegade guy was fluffing this show like his channel depended on it...

@@HishUnderscore yeah I would too. The majority will not be convinced by objective arguments, so why would he bother. I’ve never seen a group of people attack a show relentlessly instead of just not watch it if it isn’t their taste. But they wanted to ruin it for those who enjoyed it and now they can all jerk each other off about it and bask in their negativity!

Groovy 😎

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My martial arts channel is getting close to 200k subscribers. I'm late on my next video here because I was up until 3 AM finishing up a video for that channel

I’m not the biggest fan of theory, but I do have to admit his Lifesavers do look kind of nifty will I give him my money? Holy shit no I won’t.😅

He's pretty much calling himself Theory Sabers now.

He’s ridiculous 🤦🏻‍♂️

The sabers are nice just got my Shin saber and it's amazing.

And he's busy getting paid for views from those who want to indulge in his whinge-fests while he makes silly parody SW videos now instead of making content his channel purports to be about.

@PennyForMyThoughts-ry3nw dumb? It’s pretty clear since Disney shot down his fan made film project from collecting revenue from donations. that’s why he’s been super critical of Disney Star Wars good or bad. It has nothing to do with him actually having a neutral perspective on anything. All I hear him do is cry and complain about everything. he can’t point out one good detail when it comes to the acolyte.

@PennyForMyThoughts-ry3nw the only people complaining about this show are clearly fans that will never be happy no matter what Star Wars does. I’ve seen multiple content creators that actually like this show. Not to mention everyone is judging this show without even knowing the complete story yet. Star Wars fans of this generation are spoiled I remember when I was young all I had were the original 3 films and I would watch those three films every day as a kid. Now as an adult I’m so happy to be getting all the content we are on Star Wars. Everyone needs to quit complaining and just let these storylines play out. In filoni we trust

It wasn't canceled, but thanks for sharing 👍

@@UrbanAcolyte '‘The Acolyte’ Fan Petition Shows Just How Right Disney Was To Cancel The ‘Star Wars’ Flop, After All' - Forbes (Sep 12, 2024, 01:46am EDT) This is a pretty solid article. You should read it. lol

You left this comment 3 hours before the premiere. Where did I attack anyone? Maybe you should have waited to see what was actually said.

He’s not attacking anyone.He’s correcting a fellow RU-vidr because misinformation is not good.If anything this is a favor and certainly not an attack.

Your right, I should have waited. ​@@UrbanAcolyte

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