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Star Wars vs Gina Carano & The Law | Disney Set to LOSE? | Legal Analysis w/ Ron Coleman ‪@roncolemanlaw‬ ‪@ColemanNationPodcast‬
‘Mandalorian’ Firing Lawsuit: How Gina Carano’s Team and Disney Are Battling In Court
At a Wednesday hearing, a judge expressed skepticism that the Carano's lawsuit should be tossed before discovery is allowed to take place.
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A federal judge has signaled that Gina Carano‘s lawsuit against Disney and Lucasfilm over her termination from The Mandalorian will be allowed to proceed as the court considers whether the First Amendment allows private companies to sever ties with employees who publicly clash with their values.
U.S. District Judge Sherilyn Peace Garnett on Wednesday pushed back on arguments from Disney lawyer Daniel Petrocelli, who argued that the lawsuit should be dismissed because the company has the “right not to associate with a high-profile performer on a high-profile show who’s imbuing” the Star Wars series with “views it disagrees with” that could turn fans away from the show.
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Breaking News : Gina Carano SUES the Walt Disney Company with the help of ELON MUSK (Twitter / X ) just hours after Elon Musk was paling around at the premiere of LOLA with Nelson Peltz, whose daughter is the star of the film.
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@KoolKatDave
@KoolKatDave 3 месяца назад
Yes, Disney supports all women, unless it's women who don't give in to their DEI bullshit and toe the line. Props to Gina! She's missed in the Mandalorian.
@goffe2282
@goffe2282 3 месяца назад
I'm a left-wing liberal. The reason I stopped watching Mandalorian was because they fired Gina.
@joehenry9546
@joehenry9546 3 месяца назад
They lost a lot of fans when she was fired
@glasswolf0162
@glasswolf0162 3 месяца назад
​@@joehenry9546Where were all you so-called fans in 2022 when she made the movie Terror On The Prairie? That movie made only $800 it's opening weekend. And grossed a total of only $13,000 though it's entire theatrical run. That's the real reason she sued Disney. She's broke.
@cardinmalone4974
@cardinmalone4974 3 месяца назад
What is left? And what is right?
@mojoschmee9320
@mojoschmee9320 3 месяца назад
"I'm a left-wing liberal." Still? I mean, I was, too, but still???
@colwellalec
@colwellalec 3 месяца назад
@@mojoschmee9320 Lol same, I'm legit from California so naturally would say I was "left" most of my life, but nothing drove me away faster than these people who are essentially just activists and performing insane mental gymnastics to apply racism to everything where there is none, and accept literally everyone (aside from the right or people pushing back against the woke shit), just living in echo chambers and never actually challenging their preconceived notions or the bs that's been spewed at them, and eventually was just like yeah this isn't the "left" I recognize from when I was growing up.
@kreese-yi2nb
@kreese-yi2nb 3 месяца назад
Discovery is all that matters here. Disney must get unmasked.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
There's nothing left we don't know. It's all out there on social media and we the fans support her.
@42Mrgreenman
@42Mrgreenman 3 месяца назад
​@@jonfreeman9682 Like they said, it's about those internal communications of the higher-ups...if they were punishing her, it's definitely something the court needs to know...there is no social media section in courtrooms...lol...
@jackasslawyer
@jackasslawyer 3 месяца назад
Discovery is not in the public record unless disputed. In fact the vast majority of discovery is NEVER in the public record. That's why people always have to get a court order for the release of deposition transcripts.
@jeremybott4899
@jeremybott4899 3 месяца назад
I ,hope Gina does not settle outa court. Imagine the media circus of an actual trial?
@ValliantRenegade
@ValliantRenegade 3 месяца назад
She wont. Elon Musk wont allow it
@ComZeo
@ComZeo 3 месяца назад
It’s all about discovery 😂
@susandolan9543
@susandolan9543 3 месяца назад
If this goes to court, will it be aired on YT like the Depp/Heard trial? Do you think That Umbrella Guy will air it with commentary like before? Or will VR?
@EnsignRedshirtRicky
@EnsignRedshirtRicky 3 месяца назад
@@ValliantRenegade Elon has no legal say. He may be paying for the lawyers, but they have to listen to Gina. I hope she stands up to them, but I can see Iger just tossing $20m+ at her to make this go away.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
It will have to be a settlement. In the end it's just money. Otherwise what restitution would you want? She made it clear like Johnny Depp she wants nothing to do with Disney. That is unless they change management?
@recoverme5065
@recoverme5065 3 месяца назад
Disney has a lot more to lose when it comes to discovery. And Gina should expose them for all.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 месяца назад
AMEN.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
I agree but do you think that's the best course of action?
@recoverme5065
@recoverme5065 3 месяца назад
@@jonfreeman9682 for too long, Disney was all about entertainment and bringing smiles to not just kids, but to families with their creativity. What I want to know is why Disney decided to take this obscure path to not only send a message, but corrupt the audience with these propaganda. Disney used to be all about fun, now it’s just soulless. These needs to be addressed and educate the world what not to do to avoid this terrible downfall.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
What is it you think she's going to "expose"? Please be specific
@recoverme5065
@recoverme5065 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter work practices, for start, since Disney is so adamant not having an agenda, when there clearly is. Why they are going through with these terrible decisions, since everything recently has been flop after flop after mega flop, and if there are any parties involved in a convoluted scheme. Where all the funding goes to, since they are given a huge sum for production, and recently, the acolyte, which had a budget $180m, it looked like trash, from sets to costumes to actors hired (no offense to some, but you can tell that someone of them look like they were just taken off the streets to be a part of someone). Any sort of affiliation with a scheme or ring, since it is most likely that they only hire those around their community and not even look towards people that have made a solid mark in Hollywood. I’m not looking for someone super famous, but someone that at least more than 3 people that audience would recognize.
@rengarcia5189
@rengarcia5189 3 месяца назад
But, Disney didn't just fire Gina Carano, they celebrated it publically and ran her name into the ground, essentially making her unemployable in the entertainment industry.
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 3 месяца назад
Pablo Hidalgo publicly celebrated her being fired on Twitter, i'm sure Drunk3PO gave Gina and her Lawyer those screenshots, i've seen them in his videos. So did James Gunn... that was weird because he got cancelled himself, but let back into the cool kids club, you would think somebody who went through this bullshit already would not chime in on this witch hunting bullshit.
@OrionsRoseNC
@OrionsRoseNC 3 месяца назад
Amen and Amen. Disney must be held accountable and become diverse and inclusive….
@leongay3190
@leongay3190 3 месяца назад
@@OrionsRoseNC you mean locked up
@ViperChief117
@ViperChief117 3 месяца назад
Gina Carano didn’t deserve the shit she got from Disney. I hope she wins and sues them into oblivion.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
Honestly the best outcome is not to pay a settlement but make peace and bring her back and give her own show. It'll be a big win for fans and Disney as they can use the ratings. New fans may sign-up and maybe old fans might comeback.
@bousch8253
@bousch8253 3 месяца назад
@@jonfreeman9682 wishful thinking right there. That option is not a valid one for Disney in their eyes. They also have lost quite a few lawsuits and settled out of court over the last couple years. Ranging from Government, to their own employees, all the way down to the park attendees. They'll rather die on the hill they stand on then to admit that what they did was wrong. Unfortunately.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@@bousch8253 Good luck. Elon has more resources than they do at this point. Disney is NOT in the drivers seat this time.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
@@DocNo27 yes they are. The law is in their side. This case is just about Carano trying to keep her name in the news. Disney didn't fire her. They paid her for her contract, and then they decided not to offer her a new contract. That's not illegal. If it were, I'd go around suing every company that didn't offer me a job. Do you see how dumb that sounds? Because that's how dumb you sound right now
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
Yes she does
@53kenner
@53kenner 3 месяца назад
What I'm waiting for is when Disney begs to settle rather than let the case go to discovery ... which would undoubtedly prove, in their own words, how much they hate their audience.
@Power_Press711
@Power_Press711 3 месяца назад
"The Disney Company has ended its relationship with Gina Carano, and we wish her luck in her future endeavors." That's all they had to say. They couldn't help themselves.
@Reverend.John_Ignatowski
@Reverend.John_Ignatowski 3 месяца назад
Disney WAS a creative company, now it is a mouthpiece for DEI
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers 3 месяца назад
"is she your property?" That is a comfortable euphemism for slavery.
@rschiwal
@rschiwal 3 месяца назад
The actual large problem Disney has is the fact that they defamed her when they fired her, calling her "abhorrent" on their official company Twitter account. That is not allowed and Gina has every right to sue for defamation.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
Are you serious? That doesn't seem very Disney like to call someone out like that. Plus it opens the door for lawsuits. Honestly not sure why they cancelled her.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
Lol good luck with that
@gunnar6674
@gunnar6674 3 месяца назад
Defamation typically requires some kind of fact statement that is false. Calling someone despicable is just an opinion statement, so Gina can't really sue over that as defamation - she might however sue over a non-disparagement clause if that exists.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
you have it backwards. Finding her words and behavior despicable is not a false claim. It's an opinion. And it's protected. Disney knows that, Carano knows that, Elon Musk knows that, and every lawyer she first consulted two years ago knows that. The only reasons why this case is happening now instead of two years ago are that Elon likes publicity, and Carano needs publicity. This is not a viable defamation case. And stop lying, by the way. Disney never said "Gina Carano is despicable." If you have to twist the truth to make a point, maybe you don't actually have a point.
@gunnar6674
@gunnar6674 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter Who are you responding to now? To @rschiwal again, or someone else?
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
Disney is concerned about its audience?? Disney need to take themselves to court for the trauma they've been inflicting upon their audience over the past three or four years.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
"trauma"??? 😂😂😂 Why are you people such embarrassing drama queens?
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter You do realise I was joking, and you now look rather silly.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
@@grahamsmith2753 sure you were
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter LOL.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@@grahamsmith2753 ghostwriter must be a legal beagle subscriber too 🤣
@Br4dSp34d
@Br4dSp34d 3 месяца назад
the thing is, Disney didn't fire her because they thought it would hurt their audience, they fired her because they thought it would hurt the audience they WANTED (as evidenced by the people they made The Acolyte for, since it's not made for the OG Star Wars fans)
@AfricanTransplant39
@AfricanTransplant39 3 месяца назад
I hope she takes them all the way through the cleaners. If she goes through court, it opens the door for plebs who have been fired in similar situations to have an open door in the courts.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
That's a good point. A huge Pandora's box and Disney legal knows it. Other studios are watching this closely as now there's a way to fight cancel culture.
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
And you'll lose.
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
Colonist says what?
@begelston
@begelston 3 месяца назад
Excellent discussion. Ron Coleman presents the key question that must be considered "Do you own her, by virtue of having a job in one of your 'comic book movies', is this woman now your property such that she can't express an opinion on any matter that you disagree with as long as she is employed by you"?
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 3 месяца назад
This is literally covered by Californian Labor Law that an employer can not influence an employees political opinion, or forbid/influence their speech or terminate somebody for their political speech. The 40 LGBTQ+ people yell at you on a computer screen "struggle session" stuff alone is enough to light a fire under Disney / LucasFilm and Kathleen Kennedy's collective asses. And i bet you, they do that shit on a regular basis to tons of employees, or it would not be this organized of a system.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 месяца назад
Don't think it was lost on me, that this trial hearing began the same week that, The Acolyte's "Destiny" episode aired on Disney +. Notice how virtually no establishment media outlets have mentioned that Leslye Headland's name was mentioned in Gina Carano's lawsuit as being one of her abusers (during her time employed at Disney/Lucasfilm Ltd.), and how that (most likely) has had an impact on the SW Fan base's reaction/reception to Leslye Headland's The Acolyte? Kids, if you don't know about the legal term, "Discovery"...well, you're gonna get a GREAT DEFINITION/DEPICTION of it in this case. WOAH, BABY!
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
Well the case was filed awhile back but it took time to get a court trial. And there's not much to discover as all the dirt is out there but Gina was very polite in her interviews and never bad mouthed anyone and didn't mention names but we all know who. Jon Favreau fought to bring her back but higher ups blocked it. It's very political at Disney.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
"abusers" lol you people are always such whiny little victims
@Vankysher
@Vankysher 3 месяца назад
​@@jonfreeman9682 discovery will include any official communication (e.g. email, text messages, papers, etc.) created by Disney related to the case. Essentially we will possibly see things that haven't been made public.
@nick_pappagiorgio
@nick_pappagiorgio 3 месяца назад
She made it to discovery which is the most important part. She will now get to see Disney's internal communications. We're about to turn over this woke rock.
@catherinehubbard1167
@catherinehubbard1167 3 месяца назад
I’m here for the DISCOVERY. No wonder Disney wants to avoid that exposure.
@Michellex1
@Michellex1 3 месяца назад
Opinion: Disney is doing everything including looking under the couch cushions to come up with settlement money. Musk is thinking "money well spent."
@ValliantRenegade
@ValliantRenegade 3 месяца назад
Musk wants to mouse fuck this company
@TimHayes
@TimHayes 3 месяца назад
@@ValliantRenegade What do you mean?
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
What's Elon's beef with Disney exactly? Did something happen?
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 месяца назад
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes, Iger publicly tried to paint him as anti-Jewish, and campaigned to get any/all advertisers to boycott Twitter/X, after Musk purchased the company, and freed it of its biased, abusive rules. And, that's not all...
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
​@WaltRight what does "woke" mean? Please be specific.
@lance134679
@lance134679 3 месяца назад
Disney's trying to use the First Amendment as a defense for firing Carano would be very bad if it worked. The amendment is suppose to uphold freedom of expression, not stifle it.
@AllyMonsters
@AllyMonsters 3 месяца назад
And that's why Disney will win, they said nothing that was factually incorrect or not opinion related. Calling a person despicable or a bad person, is an opinion. It'd be different if they called her a murderer.
@lance134679
@lance134679 3 месяца назад
@@AllyMonsters I think what's being tested is the California law that was originally intended to prevent communist sympathizers from being fired for expressing their opinions, and now Carano is attempting to use it in her defense because now it's conservative opinions that are taboo. Whether she wins will determine the strength of that law or if it only works for communists.
@lance134679
@lance134679 3 месяца назад
@@AllyMonsters But I also see your point - in any other state, Carano would probably have no case.
@WC_Beer_Reviews
@WC_Beer_Reviews 3 месяца назад
So by Disney's point of view, can conservative minded companies fire employees based on public and/or online opinions about certain topics that they don't support or align with? Because I'm sure if that happened, a double standard would apply and there would be some sort of public or online outrage expressed, that Disney would no doubt openly support.....
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis 3 месяца назад
As I understand the situation, she kept posting after told several times to stop. Looking at the laws Disney can fire you for saying something that they feel like they can hurt their brand. Now she points out Pablo Pascal had tweeted something as well but wasn't fired. As I understand it he only did it once and stopped.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
It happens all the time
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
​@@Deuteromis just to be clear: she was NOT "fired." She was an independent contractor. They fulfilled their obligation to the contract. They chose not to offer her a new contract. That's within their rights. This suit should be thrown out.
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
Yes. Don't cut your own balls off
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
She picked on children. It's over
@rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
@rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 3 месяца назад
If Disney is so concerned with an actor's beliefs,how come they have no problem employing a known racist like Amandla Stenberg???
@jimjam51075
@jimjam51075 3 месяца назад
Their host, Krystina Arielle is one too.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 3 месяца назад
Because Disney is run by woke SJW's, and there is one type of racism that they are absolutely A-okay with, one group it is totally and completely acceptable to say the most vile and bigoted things against.
@Synthicate-q7e
@Synthicate-q7e 3 месяца назад
Who mind you is bi racial and daughter of president of company so she knows fk all about struggles of black folks. Just another hypocrite.
@jmcj810
@jmcj810 3 месяца назад
Disney stock now under 100/ share...keep it up 😂😂😂
@DamienDrake2940
@DamienDrake2940 3 месяца назад
Disney stock now down below $100. Pletz is just laughing and Iger is crying while looking for a lifeline.
@louiefrancuz3282
@louiefrancuz3282 3 месяца назад
Disney has gotten used to playing fast and loose with the law for a long time. The chickens are coming home to roost.
@ryandodrill6904
@ryandodrill6904 3 месяца назад
Discovery is victory, bring it on.
@attamans
@attamans 3 месяца назад
Disney you had it coming, Gina we are with you!
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
She has nothing
@McFrozenNuggets
@McFrozenNuggets 3 месяца назад
Gina's gonna give Disney hell.
@EnsignRedshirtRicky
@EnsignRedshirtRicky 3 месяца назад
Disney will settle before it gets to discovery as it would expose too many of their other crimes, which would lead to multiple class actions.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
The publicity is not good as social media and RU-vidrs will jump on it so it'll be a settlement.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@@EnsignRedshirtRicky Settling only works if both parties agree and Gina/Elon have zero interest in settling.
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
No
@McFrozenNuggets
@McFrozenNuggets 3 месяца назад
@@EnsignRedshirtRicky Gina ain't settling. She wants the truth out there.
@MephiticMiasma
@MephiticMiasma 3 месяца назад
Disney: "We're a creative company!" Also Disney: "Our new character is a rock named Geode" not buying it. literally.
@nathank2289
@nathank2289 3 месяца назад
Disney "We love strong women!" Gina "I'm strong" Disney "Shut up b---ch!"
@davidbeetham8481
@davidbeetham8481 3 месяца назад
There should be total transparency, but because Disney is scared of the ramifications they DO NOT WANT IT.....
@darthlaurel
@darthlaurel 3 месяца назад
The problem is they were claiming that she was anti-semitic and they didn't want to be associated with that. She clearly was not. I don't understand why that isn't being argued. They are lying about why they got rid of her by pretending that she said THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHE REALLY SAID. This seems very relevant.
@blueknights9999
@blueknights9999 3 месяца назад
In my opinion and just as a guess if this actually does make it to discovery disney will use this as a vehicle to either not renew or out right fire KK finally
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 месяца назад
Oh, that would be delicious. However, I'd say, The Acolyte is enough of a reason to let Kennedy's contract run out in October.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
No KK is untouchable. Hubby is top exec and no one dares harm her.
@crazyralph6386
@crazyralph6386 3 месяца назад
@@jonfreeman9682I’d guess old Frank is tired of her crap too? seeing him embarrassingly lead Kathy off the stage during Spielberg’s snub at Indy 5’s opening, shows a defeated man, who’s willing to toss her under the bus?
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 3 месяца назад
Wishful thinking... i get it but ...nah.
@Shadow_Knight
@Shadow_Knight 3 месяца назад
While I don't necessarily agree with everything Ms. Carano has said, the appalling coordinated attack on her person is beyond the pale; don't want to work with someone anymore, fine, but don't attack them.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
But did they attack her? They only cancelled her or more precisely didn't invite her back for season 2. Rumor was there were plans for her own show as she was popular as a bad assery boss girl. Did Disney do or say something?
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
They didn't "attack" her. Seriously, why are you people such disingenuous drama queens?
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
​@WaltRight why are you lying and comparing what Carano did with what Pascal did?!
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight what in god's name are you babbling about? Carano wasn't "attacked." She wasn't fired, Disney didn't violate a contract or refuse to pay her what they owed here. So, genius, tell me how she was "attacked" or "treated unfairly." Please be specific
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight no, he didn't "do the same thing." Why are you still lying?
@lobolopez7746
@lobolopez7746 3 месяца назад
Why is K K still working in Disney did she not do damage to everything she mess with dose she have something on the board and iger to keep on doing damage to Star Wars and Disney I just want to know why is she still working there
@KidFifty
@KidFifty 3 месяца назад
My prediction is that the discovery is going to hurt Disney, or at the very least it is going to reveal a lot of cringe statements by Disney.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
Nothing we don't already know. But it will mention names. 😱
@jw-hy5nq
@jw-hy5nq 3 месяца назад
And hopefully open a lot of new lawsuits and investigations into them.
@Apvizionz
@Apvizionz 3 месяца назад
Disney dosn't need Gina or anyone else to help them put off their fans, they are accomplishing that just fine on their own.
@lazylady8591
@lazylady8591 3 месяца назад
Disney operates like an NGO, advocating certain viewpoints,. The company is so focused on its "messaging" and advocacy for certain causes that it has forgotten that it is a for-profit corporation. The money Disney lavishly wastes is the investors' money. Disney is not a good steward of its resources, much less making a profit for its owners. Past time to get rid of Iger, his top executives, and the Disney board.
@booyahinc
@booyahinc 3 месяца назад
There was no obligation for Disney to announce their feelings about Gina, and they could’ve simply not cast her. Instead, they went out of their way to make declarative statements about her character and actions which were demonstrably false and clearly designed to poison the waters for any future work. As an employer, they should know better than to directly interfere with future employability and the price should be high enough to discourage anyone from ever trying the same in three future. I am thinking 1B per month of unemployment, or Disney’s rights to Star Wars.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
They're running a business. They were under fire. And her behavior was utterly reprehensible. Disney is allowed to say so. They're allowed to tell their shareholders and customers that they're disgusted. The truth is a defense against defamation charges. It's true that she made those selfish nasty, ignorant statements. And, presumably, it's true that Disney was as disgusted by her behavior as any reasonable adult would be I'm curious: how did you first hear about all this? Was it from Disney first, or from Carano first?
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
"which were demonstrably false" lolol no they weren't
@booyahinc
@booyahinc 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter I read the story, followed it to the tweet in question, and literally saw the opposite of what Disney described. It’s amazing you didn’t know that, or did you? You did, didn’t you? Labor protection laws apply to Disney just like every other employer, but I bet you knew that too.
@EnsignRedshirtRicky
@EnsignRedshirtRicky 3 месяца назад
@Ron - She must have been considered an employee by Lucasfilm if they were trying to FORCE her into a 40+ person struggle session. Since an entire show was being designed around her, Faverau certainly thought she was going to be working with him on a Disney Star Wars show for many years. Just because there was no current contract, their behaviour shows they were treating her like an active employee.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
She was on contract for Mando season 2 and maybe more seasons and there was discussion of her own show and Jon Favreau was a big supporter of hers. What's cool about Gina is she was no 90 lb Mary Sue but a real warrior fighter who looked the part so this is girl boss done right and she has legions of fans. Yes she was an employee but like all employees anyone can get fired for whatever reason when someone is out to get you. Honestly Disney would be smart to bring her back as it'll help with ratings.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 месяца назад
Jon Favreau informed Gina, in October 2020, that Disney had given him the go-ahead to produce, Rangers Of The New Republic. By December 2020, Favreau had already completed 2 scripts for the series; with The Pilot being given to Gina to read. Paul Sun-Hyung Lee (Captain Carson Teva) supposedly also got to see The Pilot, as well, since he was going to be playing Cara Dune's partner in Adelphi Squad. When Kennedy pulled the crap she did, she screwed a large number of people who would've been involved in that guaranteed success of a SW show...all because she hated the fact that all of the female characters from The Mandoverse were being praised and adored by general SW Fans, inc. the DREADED MALE SW FANS; which made characters like Rey, Rose Tico, Admiral Holdo, etc. look like the faulty, over-baked creations they are; which demolished her narrative that women should be a major force in running SW storytelling...STUPID and UNLAWFUL.
@zetamagnus101
@zetamagnus101 3 месяца назад
DEIsney saying they're an entertainment company, they used to be, but they threw that away and became a propaganda platform
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
Cry it out, little fella
@rensinclair4218
@rensinclair4218 3 месяца назад
Honey, she was obviously political. How about both sides stop?
@search4greatness
@search4greatness 3 месяца назад
Gina needs an apology and reinstated to the Mandalorian series THIS will restore good faith in Disney. So they will never do it... Full throttle to the ground, wings fly off. "fudgeit, we are a missle" -Disney pilot.
@dirus3142
@dirus3142 3 месяца назад
I like the idea of the CA law protecting political opinion from employers. To me it's a free speech protection. When Ron presented the question, does the corporation own you because you are it's employee is the key issue. That makes not about Gina, but a constitutional argument protecting the citizenry. Corporations already believe they own their employees. This ruling can help ingrain the separation of the personal life, and speech, and when they are on the clock at work.
@DocHolliday918
@DocHolliday918 3 месяца назад
My hope is that all this will be revealed to the public and on display. Hopefully, this will be the final nail in the coffin. Disney has destroyed all of my favorite things between Marvel and Lucas Film. I hope that a hostile takeover is in their future.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 3 месяца назад
You sound like a child
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@@christheghostwriter you sound like a shill who can't define what a woman is.
@auntykriest
@auntykriest 3 месяца назад
Hot Update! Paper shreddin' and hard drive smashin' fiesta at LucasFilm! Started 10 minutes ago, BYOB.
@Nediablo
@Nediablo 3 месяца назад
All they have to do at the court is show Pedro WAS NOT fired for the exact same thing but he's on the left.
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 3 месяца назад
Those screenshots are in the publicly available court filings that we all got to read months ago. The Judge has already seen all of those.
@Nediablo
@Nediablo 3 месяца назад
@@ZeroB4NG then hopefully, case closed 🤣 I don't care what each side is on politically. It's either ok for both of them or ok for neither. I'm of the opinion that both of them should be allowed to share their political views out of work as they damn well please! Anyway, let's go Gina!
@jayhanson-hs5vg
@jayhanson-hs5vg 3 месяца назад
its funny how disney is against the naz- while acting like a naz- go gina
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 3 месяца назад
All this bullshit about Hedland and KK, wanting of female force and then they fire Carano. Third damn hypocrites I love Carano and her character. She’s awesome the Mandalorian she kicked ass. I hope she wins her lawsuit. Disney sucks.
@Lakoda26
@Lakoda26 3 месяца назад
Winning is not money. Winning is discovery and taking all that information to court. As they often say, the punishment is the process. Its time to process Disney to within an inch of its figurative life.
@davevanhorn9741
@davevanhorn9741 3 месяца назад
Gina is the epitome of what woke Disney is supposed to love, a strong woman.
@nathansuss
@nathansuss 3 месяца назад
FOR REAL
@ValliantRenegade
@ValliantRenegade 3 месяца назад
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@EnsignRedshirtRicky
@EnsignRedshirtRicky 3 месяца назад
Y'all have ta pin this so that all comments are below. 🙃
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight lol - nope, the law doesn't work that way. Go read the CA law. What others do or don't do have no bearing. Indeed, they would have had the same case she does.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight Good grief - *if* they got fired they would have the same exact case. Reading is hard - derp!
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight No kidding. Holy cow, quit being so eager to talk past me - we agree!
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
@WaltRight If you think I'm defending Disney then you have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem. Slow down there and stop flying off the handle. You're all over the place in these comments.
@bulldogklaus47
@bulldogklaus47 3 месяца назад
"the force is female but only if we like you"
@pqsnet
@pqsnet 3 месяца назад
We all know what Amandla Stenberg said in a TV Show about a certain pale dwmographic and that her goal was to make them cry... If she can starr 2 roles in M.r Weinsteins former secretarys TV show, Disney have a bit explaining to do regarding Gina.
@MrDEMarq
@MrDEMarq 3 месяца назад
Hail Gina for the WIN! 👏💯🏆 ✨️
@digitalwolf7628
@digitalwolf7628 3 месяца назад
I would argue that investors are supposed to have legal protection from the Company's political views causing widespread financial losses. Simply because the company is choosing to inject those views into high profile shows that never had those views. As well as the fact the Company has a fiduciary duty that is legally binding to look out for investors interest over their political interests. Yet their focus here is an Actor using their 1st amendment right outside of the the "high profile show." You can also show that her firing lead to further financial damages to investors. So really when Disney is arguing this they are also admitting they violated their fiduciary duty. Just as we see official interviews with people Disney casts in other shows speaking volumes of vile hateful attacks against the fanbase and causing even more financial damage to investors... yet Disney takes no action there because it is a mirror of the same political beliefs they are pushing. At the end of the day Disney is in the wrong PERIOD because they have violated fiduciary duty and really what should be happening is an investor lawsuit. So when I hear "it's their company"... well no it's not. They are losing others peoples money. If they want to prop up whatever political view and take the losses... you do that as a Private Company with zero fiduciary duty. PERIOD.
@Hypershell
@Hypershell 3 месяца назад
Regarding the "But if she said this..." hypothetical, why not turn it around? What if Disney fired someone for posting an Instragram image of their pancake breakfast because Disney wants their audience to like waffles? This is exactly why most common people are skeptical of the "corporate persons" legal argument. Too often it amounts to corporations asserting greater legal rights than the people. I can respect that a business needs some protections to conduct themselves as they see fit, but if they cannot show how the conduct at issue is RELEVANT to the business, then they have no grounds to interfere with the rights of the individual.
@StoneCBears
@StoneCBears 3 месяца назад
Get them, Gina, go get them!
@jayhanson-hs5vg
@jayhanson-hs5vg 3 месяца назад
im for gina but how the world is nowadays its not a slam dunk . the world needs to come back to normal where people can have their own beliefs
@JohnlivesontheIsleofMannow
@JohnlivesontheIsleofMannow 3 месяца назад
This is a Slam Dunk for Gina 🙏🏻🙏🏻 she won’t settle and bring the house of woke DOWN!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@johnkarakash
@johnkarakash 3 месяца назад
Discovery is going to show animus on Disney's part. They are doomed after that. The fact that they attacked Gina after being fired is separately actionable.
@ozloop69
@ozloop69 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t have this been a great character to have given a feminine series 2 if she was so well liked like her female coaster which was far more liked than her. Remember she was supposed to be the fat old guy in this case girl maybe is that could’ve been a good female lead, for a new TV series for Star Wars, but they gave us some other feminine shit
@stevecaldwell8740
@stevecaldwell8740 3 месяца назад
It isn’t even that they fired her. It was all the struggle session shit and then the public character assassination after they let her go. If they were so concerned about the social media profile of their employees, then they should’ve put that in their contracts. [not to mention the double standard]
@kevinizatt4358
@kevinizatt4358 3 месяца назад
Disney double standard vs a California law meant to protect commies. Gotta love the irony. 😂
@ludeman
@ludeman 3 месяца назад
Gotta love when Lameafornia law comes back to bite them
@davevanhorn9741
@davevanhorn9741 3 месяца назад
My two favorite attorneys, Ron Coleman and Andrew Esquire. They both know how to explain the law in a way that the average person can understand.
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
I hope Carano is being funded by a secret billionaire, so she can afford the best legal team, and keep this running.
@BorderTerriersRule
@BorderTerriersRule 3 месяца назад
It's no secret. Elan Musk is funding the lawsuit.
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
@@BorderTerriersRule I didn't know. Nice one.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
What's Elon's beef again? Why is he involved?
@grahamsmith2753
@grahamsmith2753 3 месяца назад
@@jonfreeman9682 Because he has the funds to back Carano against the aholes at Disney. At least it means Disney is leaking even more money...and that's always good.
@toddsimmerman7015
@toddsimmerman7015 3 месяца назад
​@jonfreeman9682 Elon put it on Twitter/X a year or two ago that if anyone could show that they were fired for something they said on Twitter that he would take care of the lawsuit. Gina reached out to Elon via Twitter. He and his lawyers thought Gina had a case.
@ESRIronMan
@ESRIronMan 3 месяца назад
I spent $100 for my Cara Dune figure.
@TimHayes
@TimHayes 3 месяца назад
Hail @ValliantRenegade! Nice to see you in ComixDivision's and Clobberin'Time(s) chats this week!
@ValliantRenegade
@ValliantRenegade 3 месяца назад
I miss Comix. He is way way way overdue for my live show
@PrincessFionaYT
@PrincessFionaYT 3 месяца назад
Excellent! Than you Val for the update.
@hamdinger7145
@hamdinger7145 3 месяца назад
I support Gina Carano
@CastleJediMaster
@CastleJediMaster 3 месяца назад
Hope she makes the right decision for her, but sure wouldn’t mind if it means dragging Disney through a trial.
@snuzulose
@snuzulose 3 месяца назад
The fact that the others didn't face the same push back from Disney is telling! Gina is allowed to have an opinion, she was not pushing any political view, but Pascal and Hamill definitely were out to belittle any fan who voted differently than they did.
@krisandersson7156
@krisandersson7156 3 месяца назад
nothing would make me happier than to see Disney go under.
@casparblattmann755
@casparblattmann755 3 месяца назад
Whatever happened to having Legal Mindset on any of these channels. I have not seen him here with you guys in ages.
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 месяца назад
He's decided to grift off the vtuber sphere - he's too good for Disney :p
@ZeroB4NG
@ZeroB4NG 3 месяца назад
@@DocNo27 oh he is still on Disney, there just hasn't been much movement in the Gina case. But yes the V-Tuber stuff he keeps posting... is uhm... not something i click on.
@gunnar6674
@gunnar6674 3 месяца назад
@@ZeroB4NG He found an audience - there were a lot of bad legal takes in the V-tuber space that he could address, and since he's interested in cross-jurisdiction issues between Asian and US companies that is in his wheelhouse just like the Disney parks issues in Florida.
@RPGmodsFan
@RPGmodsFan 3 месяца назад
Q for Ron. What happens if Disney refuses to provide any material for Discovery? What if they provide only partial material and withhold other material during Discovery?
@kperson4560
@kperson4560 3 месяца назад
Get all KK emails and headlands emails
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT 3 месяца назад
Comment for the algorithm 😁👍
@stevefallon6635
@stevefallon6635 3 месяца назад
Good stuff Valiant. Thanks for breaking it down for the lay person Pushback in the culture wars is a multi front proposition Stay vigilant!
@drewlovelyhell4892
@drewlovelyhell4892 3 месяца назад
I would normally say that Carrano doesn't have a chance, but the justice system is so crooked, who knows?
@stevesmiff7944
@stevesmiff7944 3 месяца назад
LOL - imagine that Gina Carano had said things that were supportive of certain groups in 1930s Germany ... THE SAME GROUPS THAT WALT DISNEY COMPLETELY SUPPORTED !!! LOL doesn't do justice to this ridiculousness
@michaelhart7569
@michaelhart7569 3 месяца назад
Good that Valliant lets Ron finish his points without excessive interruptions. That's an advantage of a one-to-one conversation. Some other channels invite a legal expert on and then ruin it by repeatedly barging in before the full explanation is given to the audience.
@anvec6145
@anvec6145 3 месяца назад
Go Gina Go!!! Funnily enough, the undeniable is undeniable- who'd have thunk it🤣 Disney can gent bent, going by where they take their shows- I'm sure it's a familiar position Petrocceli: "The Messenger is Part of the Message"- OOOF, that statement gonna backfire on Disney- all they do is message!
@TheMarvelousmike72
@TheMarvelousmike72 3 месяца назад
Take them to the mat Gina!
@davfree9732
@davfree9732 3 месяца назад
Ever see the film Margin Call? Here is what I think will happen... Someone will be blamed but it won't be KK. She'll have a sacrifice ready to be served up and instead, she'll go quiet and let Filoni be the face of Disney for awhile. Iger will not fire her because... at this point he simply can't from what we have seen. Iger will shmooze the investors and continue to ignore the audience while taking his pay check while the parks are stripped of their iconic rides... Simply put... the only way Disney will ever change course is legally, or by a takeover. the only time I see anyone stepping down is to take legal avoiding action. Disney is the Iger Kingdom and the sooner it's out of money the better for cultures around the world having to put up with a company of activists.
@AllegraPersephone
@AllegraPersephone 3 месяца назад
The fans, like me, who is a big time Star Wars fan and probably know more about Star Wars than all the RU-vidrs hating on everything for attention capital views and culture war agendas, anyway I love Gina, she is a fine specimen of a woman, and I want her in The Mandalorian. I don't care about anybodies personal life or personal opinions. And I also don't hate anything, I love Star Wars.
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT 3 месяца назад
10:46 Disney goes... *_Florida_* _Breakin' rocks in the hot sun_ _I fought the law and'a the law won_ _I fought the law and'a the law won_ *_California_* _I needed morals 'cause I had none_ _I fought the law and'a the law won_ _I fought the law and'a the law won_
@DrKnowsMore
@DrKnowsMore 3 месяца назад
I think Disney had every right to get rid of her for her political statements. I also think they have every right to continue to run their business into the ground. This is a bunch of elite assholes fighting over opinions. Rather than settle this shit in the courts, we should settle it via public opinion. When Gina was fired if people supported her they should have immediately stopped watching disney. The stuff always takes time, but it looks like it's actually happening. As for the judge, I know nothing about her but listening off the places she's worked and the people she's worked for to me doesn't tell you meme a whole lot about her thought processes. As we all know, it's who you know that matters and not what you know in that profession and in many professions. So she may be brilliant or she may just be well connected.
@jetlorider
@jetlorider 3 месяца назад
Walt Disney Co is a public company...She's got a case.
@varkesh456
@varkesh456 3 месяца назад
I knew there was no logical reason for this case to be dismissed as soon as i saw disneys arguements i reposnse. Short version Gina's claim - i was fired for political views and treated different from my fellow actors behaving in the same way Disney's defense - we fired her because we have a right not to be assoicated with her politcal views At this point there is a clear case and arguement between a companies 1st amendment right to disaccoiate and labour law protections. Ron covered the details of how this judge feels very well but there was 1 other aspect the judge may have been offended by, the labour protection laws were to stop things like blacklists which hollywood and others were controlling at the time. So this is also a company saying you state law is meaningless to us as we always have this trump card we can play which if allowed to have dissmissed a case outright would have caused hollywoods behavior to change drastically. From what i have heard judges don't like when lawyers and/or cases take a stomp all over your laws/yard approach. Disney is now going to fight tooth and nail to keep as much of that discovery out of the public eye and it sounds like the judge will not just let disney pick and chose what avoids the public eye. Also very thankful for Ron's breakdown of how the judge had gotten to that position it is very reassureing that although diversity would not have hurt her she has had a very merit based progression to get there....that is so good to know i have seen plenty of judges in various trails now and without a foubt thebones who got there on the merits have definatly seemed to handle the court rooms best and more often than not even if there has been disagremeent with the lawtuber covering it i have watched then they can usually understand how thebjudge got there even if they do not agree. I have 3 main hopes I hope the case s televised live I hope the discovery allows some juicy stuff to come out I hope that disney gets iger on the stand and gina's lawyers ask him is it ok to call your customers (all the bad things in pedros posts) because iger either has to say no in which case why was pedro not fired or yes it is and take a public stand which will get out to everyone. He will obviously try and weasle out of it but i suspect it will be a defining question like when amber heard said she used pledge and donate synmoslly and that does not go well.
@davefox7516
@davefox7516 3 месяца назад
🇺🇸 GO GINA GO! 🇺🇸
@PrincessFionaYT
@PrincessFionaYT 3 месяца назад
The decision WAS earth shattering to Gina and the show itself.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 3 месяца назад
She was true girl boss warrior with legions of fans that love and support her. Jon Favreau fought for her and there were plans for her own show but not sure what happened. Jon Favreau was definitely on board and she was on track for stardom. No idea who derailed her and if KK was even involved.
@chrisandrew7577
@chrisandrew7577 3 месяца назад
Disney, in the past several years, has only been successful at fucking everything up. Its impressive... Most impressive.
@mavrikmavrik3032
@mavrikmavrik3032 3 месяца назад
This is so hypocritical of Disney as they have hired many people with views and messages, that are dominating the Disney storylines, that are driving away large percentages of their customers. It’s all about them being intolerant of views other than their own narrow views.
@davidstowe5652
@davidstowe5652 3 месяца назад
No, Great job and good luck 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍
@ozloop69
@ozloop69 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t have this been a great character to have given a feminine series 2 if she was so well liked like her female coaster which was far more liked than her. Remember she was supposed to be the fat old guy in this case girl maybe is that could’ve been a good female lead, for a new TV series for Star Wars, but they gave us some other feminine shit
@blooper6801
@blooper6801 3 месяца назад
We’ll see if they bring back mark hamill with him openly insulting people on twitter, if they’re being consistent he should be banned from Disney for the future bc of his online combatative online behavior
@daviddrakeford9567
@daviddrakeford9567 3 месяца назад
I just read her tweet, if you don’t understand what’s she’s saying, your proving her point, because your blinded by what your supposed to hate.
@havocstormbringer1503
@havocstormbringer1503 3 месяца назад
If I recall Disney's viewership and I think stock price dropped off significantly immediately after Gina was fired
@PsychoKillerSquirrel
@PsychoKillerSquirrel 3 месяца назад
This is a perfect example of when you hire a warrior to play a warrior it doesn't end when the camera stops rolling. Gina to me is living up to what we expected in her fighting career, and what we expect Kara to be doing, as in not giving up and taking the battle to the enemy and hitting them head on.
@blazingsonic
@blazingsonic 3 месяца назад
I hope Gina has the same angel of a lawyer that Johnny Depp had.
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