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StarCraft 1 Units That Are Secretly Amazing In StarCraft 2 

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@47StormShadow
@47StormShadow 23 дня назад
Love it! Another secretly awesome unit is the medic. Ultimate anti-harassment unit. Research optical flare asap and blind those pesky flying units. With there sight reduced to 0 they are rendered useless! Bye bye Oracles, Liberators Banshees, scouting overlords and probably a ton more that I'm forgetting
@uThermal
@uThermal 23 дня назад
ooo thats actually a great idea :D
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 23 дня назад
BW Ghosts are also kind of nuts for their lockdown and they're quite cheap (albeit as fragile as a marine).
@47StormShadow
@47StormShadow 23 дня назад
@@joshuakim5240 that's why D matrix is a thing :D
@47StormShadow
@47StormShadow 23 дня назад
@@uThermal I've been thinking about these dynamics for years, hoping this day would come! Lol
@mazhiwezakizo3513
@mazhiwezakizo3513 23 дня назад
I mentioned something like this the other day on another video of his, but someone got pretty negative about it.
@Slaphappy1975
@Slaphappy1975 23 дня назад
sair/reaver is definitely the way to go in SC2. without the missed shots, the reaver is completely OP lol As an old-school broodwar guy Im loving the content!
@Evarakeus
@Evarakeus 22 дня назад
Not to mention the improved pathing also makes armies clump up a lot more, making AoE super effective compared to BW where units would tend to string out
@patrickshaw3284
@patrickshaw3284 23 дня назад
I keep forgetting while watching these that there are people who have never played SC1 and only played SC2.
@blakedurrant9399
@blakedurrant9399 23 дня назад
I remember the first time I ever played ladder on BW in the early 2000's. First map I got hit with what I can only assume was a proxy firebat. Immediately died and went back to my custom games and nr 15 3v3's lmao
@EdselsBakedGoods
@EdselsBakedGoods 23 дня назад
That's why I would always say "30min no rush", lmao
@Gossettc68
@Gossettc68 23 дня назад
I was fond of 3v3 Zero Clutter Zero rulz
@booshmcfadden7638
@booshmcfadden7638 22 дня назад
@@EdselsBakedGoods You gotta set that up before hitting start, man. I would immediately rush anyone who made up rules after the game started because I assume they'd rush me.
@stagecoachrobbery
@stagecoachrobbery 16 дней назад
NR games were the best because I sucked! lol.
@chrishaywood2458
@chrishaywood2458 15 дней назад
Shared Base 3v3 nr15 let's go. That was my intro to SC
@pauldaly100
@pauldaly100 23 дня назад
I want to see “mirror matches” on this mod. BW vs SC2 of the same faction please. Nobody is posting videos of this
@phihoangle6642
@phihoangle6642 23 дня назад
There are some mirror match in the gsl promotion event of this mod
@pauldaly100
@pauldaly100 23 дня назад
@@phihoangle6642 cool thank you
@Dawindell
@Dawindell 23 дня назад
uthermal has a few videos of TvT they might be on uThermal2 but I know I saw at least one
@hinney827
@hinney827 23 дня назад
Harstem has some PvP on his main channel. He's been doing a lot of BW v SC2
@Hooktail
@Hooktail 22 дня назад
Watched ZvZ in some Korean channels, looks absolutely brutal for BW Z due to lack of banelings early on, and can't deal with frenzied Ultralisks in late game.
@billystewart927
@billystewart927 23 дня назад
firebat was always my favorite unit. i missed them in SC2
@fallensnipa
@fallensnipa 23 дня назад
That reaver drop at the end was disgusting! I want to see more!
@miza6
@miza6 23 дня назад
I loved that the fire bat from the SC1 extra missions named Gui Montag
@robertrebor7
@robertrebor7 22 дня назад
My brother, you forsake the use of dark swarm. You got shot to pieces in that Zerg game because you didn't use the spell that makes bullets not do anything. SC2 players would have no clue what to do against defilers so I am REALLY looking forward to the video where you figure out how to defile your opponents.
@nguyenhuyduc9151
@nguyenhuyduc9151 22 дня назад
Yep, i think all sc 2 have no way against good zerg( korean player). Iirc, even sc 1 still got problem with that unit
@model84
@model84 20 дней назад
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 irradiate, firebats, feedback
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 20 дней назад
I hated defiler's plague more than storm, especially with terran.
@nguyenhuyduc9151
@nguyenhuyduc9151 20 дней назад
@@balazsfenyes3880 imo, that spell was.made when dev think all.player are not great and rarely use spell. So they just make a mage unit, not too slow, can absord energy and can use spell to negate all range unit. Guest what? Almost all unit of terran is range! And guest more; ultralist is melee unit..
@marinauder
@marinauder 23 дня назад
Firebat drop with a medic or two would go hard
@faycal799
@faycal799 23 дня назад
Can you try trolling with an infested command center with zerg on this mod ? 😅
@uThermal
@uThermal 23 дня назад
I'm not sure if they fixed it, it wasn't possible before yet ^^
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 23 дня назад
unfortunately there's a bug, so that's disabled for now, you can only infest BW CCs at the moment, not SC2 CCs, etc
@Cawfeesomething
@Cawfeesomething 22 дня назад
Imagine an infested planetary? 💪
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 20 дней назад
SACRAFICE MEEEEE, btw how is that trolling, infested terran had the best pathing from all ground units in SCI.
@Loral-Niran
@Loral-Niran 4 дня назад
Unsieged Tanks in SC1 were a viable strat, 2 6 unit control groups of siege tanks usually with 3-4 science vessel in another control group. Unsiege 1 tank group, shield them and have them push up A-move, have second group move in and siege up, rotate. Your 4th group was either Ghosts or marines/medics depending on what you were fighting.
@flamerollerx01
@flamerollerx01 23 дня назад
Omg that ending! So funny! I could yell your opponent was completely lost as to what to do. I can hear it now "what do I do!?" I mean who would have thought that corsairs counter swarm host locusts so hard? I mean I guess nobody in their right mind would make swarm hosts against phoenix and the element of surprise and confusion from not knowing the units well enough is clearly what won the game, but still.
@christopherjohnson2171
@christopherjohnson2171 19 дней назад
A lot of the streamers haven't displayed the power of many of the BW units in this mod, glad to see firebats finally getting a highlight. Spellcasters are so OP from BW in this mod, I've seen very little Ghost/Science Vessel play from the terrans, no defiler play from Zergs, and just a small taste of Maelstrom/Mind Control/Storm/Stasis/Disruption Web from Protoss.
@sexxyduddy
@sexxyduddy 12 дней назад
Plague !! where are the plagues !!! XD
@Joffie69
@Joffie69 18 дней назад
From memory, the Corsair attack is an AoE (multiple targets). So having 4-5 corsairs roaming for Overlords was one of my fav pass times.. and if you found a group stacked up.. ohh.. juicy =P Guardians work well in mass.. fly a heap of Muta over and convert them near their base, more the merrier with air support as backup
@andresz3160
@andresz3160 23 дня назад
That reaver shot must have hurt bad for those drones. I still have not seen anyone use one of the most important zerg late game units the defiler. If you play zerg againg I would love to see it. Awesome games man.
@TGPanda242
@TGPanda242 23 дня назад
I'm pretty sure he already made a video with defilers, it might be on his 2nd channel
@flamerollerx01
@flamerollerx01 23 дня назад
Other people have replays using defilers. You'll probably see one of them eventually. Dark swarm is as good as you think, though some things are a little counterintuitive about it. Namely things like disruptors and banelings.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 23 дня назад
the amount of splash options in SC2 makes Dark Swarm a little less effective, though Plague is still a good option, if a bit limited due to Consume being a bit too slow than it should be making the Defiler a bit clumsy of a unit to use.
@MrMiniblock
@MrMiniblock 23 дня назад
30:41 That was delicious lmao
@danielsommerlykke9475
@danielsommerlykke9475 22 дня назад
Cool video. Guardians are typically used as stage 2 of a mutalisk all-in, so you rush the spire. You typically morph them either behind/close to the mineral line to harass or just far enough away to not be spotted, combining it with a hydralisk switch for a final all-in attack.
@ja3482
@ja3482 22 дня назад
I got excited when he said "Guardians" cuz I remembered how crazy the dps was back in the day 😁
@sageryfrekenstein
@sageryfrekenstein 21 день назад
The reaver is so funny. Everyone hates Disruptors, but forgot The Original™
@volkandogan7136
@volkandogan7136 22 дня назад
Thnx for the good content and enjoying times
@krunkcleanup2949
@krunkcleanup2949 22 дня назад
Now that this mod exists, we can finally answer the question "Who would win in a fight, an Arbiter or a Sentry?"
@user-ct4kl1rn4y
@user-ct4kl1rn4y 22 дня назад
I love this BW vs SC2 series, its so fresh it's like the SC3 we won't get for 20 years!
@SindarinElealar
@SindarinElealar 22 дня назад
Against mass marines, you NEED Queens. Ensnare is so friggin' good at stopping them from getting in and slowing their DPR down. Though frankly, you're up against marines, you need upgrades to not get owned.
@nguyenhuyduc9151
@nguyenhuyduc9151 22 дня назад
Yep, one cast and terran plan was deleted..
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 20 дней назад
Best Starcraft 1 Strat is the Artosis 2base vs 8 base tank/vulture turtle where you call your opponent a piece of shit clown when he attacks and crushes you.
@stevenape377
@stevenape377 22 дня назад
Hi Marc! Fantastic video as always :) I have a request/video idea: after your challenges vs the best players in the world (where you give them a handicap after each victory), I would love to see a video where you explain to us noobs what Serral does to make him seem so invulnerable, what Maxpax does to lose a bunch of encounters then roll you over. Why couldn't you do what they do, what aspects of it seem out of reach?
@nassattack
@nassattack 22 дня назад
oh weird, this video didn't show up in my subscriptions even tho I'm subbed to the channel really loving this sc1 vs. sc2 content btw :)
@tylerj3855
@tylerj3855 22 дня назад
Man they really did some great work on this mod! Units and buildings look great and they keep on improving
@tiredeals5020
@tiredeals5020 23 дня назад
Love these broodwar match ups!
@xeruexe1624
@xeruexe1624 22 дня назад
I think it was the TY vs Dark Evo mod match where TY clinched it in the last fight with a Marine-Firebat-Medic rush, and the Firebats were the MVP. I never could imagine Firebats having an impact like that in a million years.
@proape6052
@proape6052 22 дня назад
FIREBAT? PROTOSS? GOOD? WTF Also crazy how this video featured firebats, guardians, and the shield battery to a lesser extent popping off despite them being considered bad in Brood War. Reaver popped off like expected.
@Nekoyashiki-san
@Nekoyashiki-san 19 дней назад
Thanks for the good old fun! ^^
@PokettoMusic
@PokettoMusic 22 дня назад
well makes sense in lore that kerrigan wanted to get rid off aldaris' protoss so damn hard
@mobiust708
@mobiust708 7 дней назад
Someone forgot to mention to uthermal the classic broodwar saying, "zerg builds guardians when they want to lose". Guardians in pro BW have an absolutely abysmal win rate, so much so that whenever a zerg builds them, its almost guarantee they lose.
@stagecoachrobbery
@stagecoachrobbery 16 дней назад
You should do NR games (No Rush 10 mins, No Rush 5 mins, No Rush 15 mins, etc..) That was true Brood War bliss!!
@lacryman5541
@lacryman5541 23 дня назад
Defilers would have destroyed those marine balls with plague and protect the sunkens colonies with the orange cloud thing
@TomFranklinX
@TomFranklinX 23 дня назад
Lurkers would as well. Not building zerg's strongest units were an oof
@Sp1n3c
@Sp1n3c 22 дня назад
this game is freaking beautiful. I hope they keep developing this mode. I love how all the units from SCBW look like in SC2
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 22 дня назад
The Guardians game was really interesting, they're very powerful and long range, but super slow. Scourge is very powerful, but expensive for a one time use unit.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 23 дня назад
BW shield batteries can indeed heal multiple at the same time, they're just too niche in comparison to cannons that nobody really builds any. Plus, they don't work on buildings.
@koval4ukos
@koval4ukos 22 дня назад
Thank U ! The last game was awesome!
@paulhomer9215
@paulhomer9215 22 дня назад
Artosis: BW Terran sucks! You can't win in any matchup. uThermal: Have you tried firebat drops?
@nuggetsandclide
@nuggetsandclide 22 дня назад
Would love to see you challenge Day9 playing his BW main!
@davidstud3952
@davidstud3952 23 дня назад
Ah great one, loved the Guardians!
@doctorstainy
@doctorstainy 23 дня назад
Should have made queens and entangle that two base all in terran, it would make it really hard for him to chase the guardians.
@justawanderingoldman7699
@justawanderingoldman7699 22 дня назад
Yeah. Personally, I think BW Zerg most disgusting power are their spellcasters. Queen can slow down an army and make them as easy targets. And I have to mention my favorite BW Zerg unit, the devourer. One splash or their skill will corrorde those armies really fast.
@user-mv2nn6rw2w
@user-mv2nn6rw2w 22 дня назад
Firebat is basically hellbats with stim.
@bigbroarivus
@bigbroarivus 22 дня назад
30:40 Hungry hungry Reaver
@icy7472
@icy7472 23 дня назад
Hey Uthermal just wanted to say ur content is great and have a great day
@marcinluter1195
@marcinluter1195 13 дней назад
Good man! What would you say to play TvP but you make science vessel with broodwar EMP and Nukes + blind observers. Wonder if it works vs sc2 protoss :D
@Manocsak2
@Manocsak2 18 дней назад
Never really watched uTherman, it's amazing how can he play and talk at the same time!
@RancorSnp
@RancorSnp 22 дня назад
I will never understand what was ANYONE thinking when making Starcraft 2 Firebat. It can't tank, it takes 5 years to wind up the attack, it deals no damage, it walks slow, and it costs a fortune. Like how did anyone look at starcraft 1 firebat and thought that any of it is a good adaptation of the unit
@Dagnot
@Dagnot 23 дня назад
Spellcasters in BW are incredibly hard to use. On SC2 engine i've seen storms being thrown the most, but you can get a lot from spells rarely used in BW. And all other spellcasters are great (except corsairs) and harder to snipe than the slow and flimsy High Templars. Corsairs would be great too, but Disruption Web + Fleet Beakon costs 500-400 (or 200-200 if you had the building already).
@Aryan_homophobe
@Aryan_homophobe 23 дня назад
Ok, can scourge target colossus? Because if it can it is just hilarious.
@mitang7508
@mitang7508 23 дня назад
they can
@something8127
@something8127 23 дня назад
Colossus is a ground unit so no it can't
@uThermal
@uThermal 23 дня назад
I think they can :D
@erkhesbatkhuyag9915
@erkhesbatkhuyag9915 23 дня назад
​@@something8127actually, it can be hit by both ground and air, so it would be hit by scourges
@danielburgin28
@danielburgin28 23 дня назад
@@something8127 you do realise that phoenix, flying vikings etc etc can hit them?
@catbert7
@catbert7 23 дня назад
30:37: It's a Drone Geyser! 🤗
@Braincho
@Braincho 22 дня назад
looks very fun... a sip of a fresh air in ST2
@ehan324
@ehan324 23 дня назад
UTHERMAL YOUR NEXT CHALLENGE NEEDS TO BE TO PLAY SC2 ZERG, NEURAL PARASITE A BROOD WAR DRONEAND NOW YOU HAVE BOTH TYPES OF UNITS
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 20 дней назад
or just use dark archons
@StarcraftPlague
@StarcraftPlague 23 дня назад
Sometimes your videos don't show under my subscription videos. Its happened a few times, I only ever seem to notice it with your channel. Lovin' the BW mod content =)
@vim9099
@vim9099 23 дня назад
To those who have played this mod, did the BW firebat retain its 3-hit damage? Supposedly it's just 2x8 concussive damage, but it can hit thrice sometimes due to splash damage. Also, thanks uThermal for this content, loved watching it :)
@Alevice
@Alevice 22 дня назад
Dev here. Yes the 3 bullet system is implemented 😊
@vim9099
@vim9099 22 дня назад
@@Alevice awesome! Thank you guys for your hard work!
@njalsand133
@njalsand133 22 дня назад
the clors looks really good.
@danielcripe25
@danielcripe25 23 дня назад
Defiler plague should really be effective against clumped up marines.
@electronus97
@electronus97 22 дня назад
imagine vs protoss, disgusting.
@loraxak
@loraxak 23 дня назад
When i played BW i played as a terran named earthworm jim and i would type in chat cow launched every time i launched a nuke
@ngst74
@ngst74 23 дня назад
last game is dope!
@AC3handle
@AC3handle 23 дня назад
Looking forward to seeing you try nukes in this version. Takes a LOT of work to get a nuke, and each silo needs a command center.
@NepTunez-ff9bp
@NepTunez-ff9bp 22 дня назад
I like it when he pronounces it "scorge" 😋
@birkavese
@birkavese 22 дня назад
Is there some kind of ladder for this mod or you arranged each match from your community?
@quocphantruong
@quocphantruong 22 дня назад
If terran SC1 vs other units in SC2: - Science vessel: very imba with Defensive matrix (250 HP absorb) & EMP (0 shield and 0 mana instant) - Ghost: with Lock
@nguyenhuyduc9151
@nguyenhuyduc9151 22 дня назад
Iirc ghost can lock only the machine, so it work on protos terran but not zerg at all
@maudiojunky
@maudiojunky 23 дня назад
22:35 if you rushed a couple defilers I think you won that with dark swarm
@danielmata610
@danielmata610 18 дней назад
I want to see if you can do something with Ghost. Lockdown?
@MasSamurai
@MasSamurai 23 дня назад
I've always used firebats. Especially in drops. I don't know why people hate on them so much
@ericschafer287
@ericschafer287 23 дня назад
He should try the Bisu build: corsairs + DTs.
@ChristophelusPulps
@ChristophelusPulps 10 дней назад
Vultures seem obscenely strong against SC2 Protoss, because I believe Stalkers count as medium against their attacks? So they do decent damage to all Gateway units and are faster.
@nolalb824
@nolalb824 23 дня назад
For the second match I think it would have worked if you had dark swarm, with that you buy sooooo much more time
@gpslayer
@gpslayer 22 дня назад
in bw firebats could kill nexus quite fast, i do not know if splash maede it to do more damage to building
@DaedricGamingHD
@DaedricGamingHD 23 дня назад
The guardian just looks like op zerg tempest
@CptMonstruoso
@CptMonstruoso 22 дня назад
If you played SC2 Zerg and stole a SC1 Drone with Neural Parasite, what do you think would be the most OP unit composition for a mixed game Zerg army?
@SanityDrop
@SanityDrop 22 дня назад
I was pretty shocked that lots of pro or top level SC2 players havent even touched SC1.
@hinney827
@hinney827 23 дня назад
I was watching Artosis complain about how impossible it is to win as BW Terran vs SC2 Toss, but he refused to do anything other than the standard BW build. Like bro, you're playing against a completely different race at this point. You can't blindly do what was viable in the previous version of the game.
@natecw4164
@natecw4164 23 дня назад
Hey Marc, what's the hotkey message at the beginning about? Do you deliberately unbind something? Honestly curious, after 12 years I could still stand to improve A LOT
@uThermal
@uThermal 22 дня назад
I think its just a mix up with the brood war mod hotkeys ^^
@natecw4164
@natecw4164 22 дня назад
@@uThermal thanks, thought maybe you'd mapped s and h to hold position ✌️
@aaronncz
@aaronncz 23 дня назад
Nice reaper wall vs sc1 terran Blade xd
@zer0nix
@zer0nix 22 дня назад
The bw units seem to refire too quickly after being moved, which may be contributing to their unexpected strength
@pl2996
@pl2996 23 дня назад
what does the devourer look like in this mod? please build one so we can see it.
@SonorianBnS
@SonorianBnS 22 дня назад
did they fix the mass recall bug that made sairs do like nothing vs mutas?
@teachmehowtodoge1737
@teachmehowtodoge1737 22 дня назад
Without lurkers, it's hard to stop mass bio as a zerg bw
@nathanpetrich7309
@nathanpetrich7309 23 дня назад
Add one medic to the firebat drop
@michaelkrell9794
@michaelkrell9794 22 дня назад
The sound effects were so much cooler in BW
@windwindy5356
@windwindy5356 23 дня назад
BW ghosts are amazing in SC2 against both Terran and both protoss
@oncesanora
@oncesanora 22 дня назад
I love this mod. It's the best thing to ever happen to sc2.
@roshango125ab
@roshango125ab 22 дня назад
Wait are you able to play this mod as a matchmaking ladder mod?
@FireRathalos
@FireRathalos 22 дня назад
i think artosis need to see this
@MXedos
@MXedos 23 дня назад
I like watchin uThermal while eating. Ive gained more weight that i would like to admit.
@juny9445
@juny9445 22 дня назад
What's up marc
@quocphantruong
@quocphantruong 22 дня назад
How to play SC2 on ladder with SC1 units?
@soulofshukaku
@soulofshukaku 22 дня назад
Battery bust time?
@aleksanderdanilian3377
@aleksanderdanilian3377 22 дня назад
is there a sc1 company in sc2 game?
@XuancongWang
@XuancongWang 23 дня назад
If you make medics before the 4/5th marine, your medic can have more energy when going out.😃
@xJMFx
@xJMFx 22 дня назад
i would like to play this mod in sc2, how?
@ShadowDragonite6
@ShadowDragonite6 23 дня назад
Tell that to artosis!
@njalsand133
@njalsand133 22 дня назад
dark archon and take over units
@cole-nq1ru
@cole-nq1ru 20 дней назад
Need a light?
@nyambe
@nyambe 22 дня назад
I dont really know anything about the brutwar units
@azurerider812
@azurerider812 21 день назад
Ayo wat Every color of AI has different behavior?
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