I'm super glad you're not shying away from including the match fixing players in your history videos. History is often ugly, but It would be wrong to try and misrepresent the history and only show the nice bits.
I was cleaning out the loft above my parents barn a few months ago, and I found one of my old burned CD's, I had written VOD's #3 on it, and it turned out it was a bunch of old SlayerS_'BoxeR' games from 2001-2002 complete with Korean commentary, and I suddenly remember I used to download and watch all these games from a webpage back then, I just remember it being a white background and a long, long list of games to download. I wish I could find VOD's #1 and 2 as well, and maybe more, I don't remember how many CD's I burned, but I do remember being obsessed and watching everything I could find, always with Korean commentary, I did not understand why anyone would want English commentary back then, nor do I know if it was even available, I just thought it was so entertaining listening to the Koreans yell "Plaguga!!!" instead, even though I understood nothing about what was being said, their energy was infectious. Good times.
From what i remember was translated on the TL forums back in the day (may not be fully accurate) before this finals, Savior had declared ZvP “solved” and primarily was focused on improving his ZvT. Bisu went on an overseas vacation with his team the week before the finals, leading some posters to speculate that he had already assumed he was going to lose. He may or may not have said that he was already prepared for the finals before leaving.
Please show and review early Nal_rA's fast expo games since he was one of the first ones to come up with the idea and implement it on the Proleague/OSL/MSL level. Loving these so far. Cheers!
You can do the review of Draco's legendary WCG 2006 run too. Always loved your Draco (P) vs (T) Midas @ Gaia game cast from that tournament's group stage :D
I remember Day9 talking about this in one of his stream highlight videos. Now big bro Tasteless comes in with the actual game plus commentary. It's great to actually see how the game played out and it's honestly just as amazing as when Day9 told it.
Thanks for listening to our suggestions tasteless!! For the next suggestion, i dont know if there's a vod for this but the original Soulkey vs H.O.T Forever where terran bio was introduced to be a force to be reckoned with. It was called the SK Terran back then. Like the Bisu Build, this also revolutionized the Terran playstyle forever.
The crazy part was that in game 1 and/or game 2 Bisu had already killed him with the Corsair/DT combo, this game Savior knew what was coming and still couldnt figure anything against it.
I remember this savior vs bisu series. Protoss always seemed like the underdog race to me back then. After this series, bisu was my favorite player ever since
I do the same thing for gaming and typing.It's v useful since it sets up your hand in a way you can just slide your thumb left or right to hit alt or space while your pinky is hovering over caps and shift
The pinky knuckle ctrl key thing is mind blowing to me. I haven't been this dumbfounded by a keyboard hack since I learned about putting your spacebar key upside down to have it tilt a more thumb friendly angle.
I'd love a deep dive on Savior. He was one of my favorite players back in the day and I was surprised to come back to BW after a long absence and learn about all of this
This History series is amazing. One of my favorite moments from SC history was Jinro's run in GSL, was waking up at 5 in the morning to watch with a few friends on TeamSpeak.
Savior was sooooOooOoOooooo good. He was basically as dominant, or even more, than Flash. The problem is it was very short lived. His big secret was that he practiced Terran to learn what Zerg did that was annoying.
As someone that loved SC1 at that time and played avidly, but did not follow the Korean scene, I would love it if you did a long history video (or series) on the match fixing scandals.
I respect you having the guts to talk about players other won't. It was an event in history and pretending it didn't happen doesn't actually make it go away
Brings back memories of staying up late during college to watch live games where the resolution was awful. Hard to overstate how much this series changed Starcraft. It wasn't just that Bisu won, he ran over Savior in a truck going 100 mph. It had been 3 years since a Protoss player had won a Starleague. Savior got utterly dismantled in this series, and he was never the same again.
I remember watching this series live in college at like 2am in a lecture hall and being totally floored by Bisu's dismantling of everything I thought I knew about PvZ. This was just after sAviOr crushed NaDa in the OSL and I don't think anybody expected Bisu to look so dominant against one of the best players in the world at the time. It's wild to think I was watching history get written in real time back then.
4:40 this is the main reason i fell out of playing broodwar. i used to doing control group with pinky but have grown to dislike it as i need to look at my keyboard to do so that method isnt competitive method for me. have tried to using the handle but not comfortable with that either. luckily i fell out of hard gaming in general so i dont need to put the effort into learning that stuff anyways
Match fixing = you throw a game, but you have bet on yourself losing? Great piece of history! Bisu and Stork seemed so impressive to me at the time to me. Could never understand how they manage to survive and get the Nexus in..
I remember back days OSL finals Stork vs terran. BO5 and it was 5th game. Camera showed Stork and sweat drop was on his nose. Would be interesting to know about tension during finals of different leagues and about health care in pro gaming. Practice houses of teams and wrist injuries of pros. And big thanks to Tasteless for his great job.
Love these type of videos! Keep it up! I still believe you should cover some of saviors old matched because he is still part of bw history and was extremely dominant at one point in time. What a shame what happened though…
Hey Mate, really enjoying these Starcraft History videos. If you do decide to make one about the match fixing that has happened in Starcraft 1 and 2 that would be good. To not only hear your thoughts but also get a better understanding. Loving the content, keep up the awesome work.
Thank you Tasteless for analyzing the game that shocked the world (although a toss player like you myself, i just thought that there was no way a relatively no-name player (at the time, of course) would beat savior in a BO5, let alone PvZ, the saddest matchup there was for protoss), savior would 3-0 this dude. Man, were we in for a ride!
Please please please do a video about matchfixing in SC1 and SC2. Double points if you talk about the issue with progamers taking Ritalin for performance.
History of maps if able please. How and when did the reverse ramp happen? Island maps ever? What specifically about the old maps made them imbalanced or not feasible?
Amazing these videos exist at all, even if in 144p lol. Nostalgic. You can hear nerdy girls screaming their heart out, like if the biggest band was playing. SC1 was something else!
I'd super appreciate a video about match fixing because i dont even know what that is 😅 Is it like when smash players cheat with the tournament seeding?
It sucks that people act like Savior can never be forgiven. I think 10+ years is enough. A permanent ban and stigma insinuates that people cannot grow or fix their mistakes. I personally think he should be allowed back into the scene. He did the crime, he's paid the time, and money, it's time to move on
I tend to disagree with Tasteless when it comes 'canceling' match fixers like Savior and Life and not mentioning them. You need to keep talking about them so that we keep reminding ourselves how bad match fixing is and learn from their mistakes. We haven't stopped talking about the horrible deeds the Nazis did in the past or the gulags in the soviet union. I'm not trying to call savior or Life nazis, my point is that if we don't talk about history that we're doomed to repeat it. Don't risk your career by match fixing. It isn't worth it.
Please talk about match fixing and how it affected the game. I literally had no idea this ever happened am just annoyed with you and censor focused individuals for being silent on this now 😂
Love the history replays. Who cares about showing cheaters. Savior was a great player. So he cheated and got banned, rightly so, but he had real games before that. No reason to ever delete anything from history.
Bleaching history to remove persons or things that are distasteful... That's so counter to a core premise of history, learning from the past to avoid repeating mistakes. Very Stalin-esque to dissappear people and the meaning of their lives.
