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A new Starfield modding project called Project Tamriel has been announced, which says will involve bringing Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind into the Creation Engine 2.0. While a lot of people are excited about it, there are a lot of red flags and it looks fake. Here's why.
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@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 3 месяца назад
To prepare for Shattered Space, I've been playing Starfield on the MPG 321URX QD-OLED gaming monitor. Thanks to MSI Australia, exploring outer space has never looked this good 👨🏼‍🚀 #MSI #Ad
@jb6748
@jb6748 2 месяца назад
Affiliate link?
@Forty1toScratch
@Forty1toScratch 3 месяца назад
If true, this project will probably release before Star Citizen
@brockmusk
@brockmusk 3 месяца назад
The whole post screams like it was written by A.I., right down to the placeholder for the website/discord.
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 3 месяца назад
Lmao yeah
@claiminghawk
@claiminghawk 2 месяца назад
Imagine going through the unity and instead of waking up on a starborn ship you wake up on the carriage ride from skyrim
@eckz8659
@eckz8659 2 месяца назад
That would be hilarious
@evergaolbird
@evergaolbird 3 месяца назад
Knowing a bit on how the process is done with the Beyond Skyrim team and how many years is now taking them to expand Tamriel using Skyrim - I believe this is a load of "boloney".
@southbranch
@southbranch 3 месяца назад
exactly 100%
@ignacio3460
@ignacio3460 3 месяца назад
Beyond Skyrim, Skywind and Skyblivion have all exchanged assets to help each other out. Why wouldn't they do it for this new mod?
@evergaolbird
@evergaolbird 3 месяца назад
@@ignacio3460 What's the point of using assets tailored specifically with the engine limitations of Skyrim (with SKSE mods) on a more superior engine which can easily do more excluding what other mods can do for the Creation Engine 2 even on its vanilla form? I rather play what these modders already did in Skyrim rather than seeing them in Starfield where the downgrade will be obvious enough that these ambitious project will just end up them redoing the assets themselves.
@ignacio3460
@ignacio3460 3 месяца назад
@@evergaolbird the assets are not being made to the standards of 2011. They're very good models and high res textures
@evergaolbird
@evergaolbird 3 месяца назад
@@ignacio3460 I think you are misunderstanding my point - sure the assets compared to Vanilla Skyrim models are a step above by 10 folds, but in comparison to what the Creation Engine 2 can do, those baked textures and even how those models are made will need tweaking in order to be viable in the likes of running them in Starfield. Meeting the standards in a completely different engine with more complex implementations of multi-layer of shaders support, it will never be just a "cut and dry" situation.
@grumpyoldnord
@grumpyoldnord 3 месяца назад
I went and looked at OP's post history on Reddit and dude just seems like an edgy teenager out for a troll.
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 2 месяца назад
Lmao
@BraddahSpliff
@BraddahSpliff 2 месяца назад
Just having Nirn as a planet in Starfield would be great. That should be possible for some modder out there, right?
@villes5835
@villes5835 3 месяца назад
Fallout cascadia for instance is 8 years old project, miami is almost the same age,. Good luck trying to do 3 games at once, in a galaxy far far away
@stadce
@stadce 3 месяца назад
On paper... It sounds absolutely ridiculous
@kyriosmalaka2312
@kyriosmalaka2312 3 месяца назад
The only massive Starfield Creation Kit project I want is the one that will turn Starfield into an actual space game.
@super_terram
@super_terram 2 месяца назад
Playing in widescreen, and not ultrawide is like wearing blinders. You know, the things that keep horses from seeing anything except the path ahead as intended by the driver?
@mauvecloud0
@mauvecloud0 3 месяца назад
As far as I can tell, nobody else has mentioned this, but Tamriel is not the name of the planet in the Elder Scrolls series, it's just the main continent (where the empire is located) - the planet is called Nirn. Edit: also, one more red flag I see that you didn't mention: the description talks about porting existing assets from the old games, which seems like they'd be setting themselves up for an intellectual property lawsuit.
@kyriosmalaka2312
@kyriosmalaka2312 3 месяца назад
Projects like Fallout London or Miami are the only massive projects that really interest me. The old games exist. I wish that the talented modders would forget about reliving the past and just focus on creating new experiences instead. Let Fudge Puppet stay in Morrowind, Oblivion ad Skyrim for the rest of their lives.
@viralarchitect
@viralarchitect 2 месяца назад
Me and other commenters pointed out that they don't realize that Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim are regions of one continent - Tamriel, on a planet called Nirn. Nirn is not mentioned once. That's what made me think this was someone telling AI to write a believable sounding reddit post for "Project Tamriel". Teenage mind with access to ChatGPT free. It's a nothing burger.
@WinterDominus
@WinterDominus 2 месяца назад
If you include DLCs, you can't put together maps from Skyrim and Morrowind.
@legorobot2369
@legorobot2369 2 месяца назад
This is bloody stupid. People still haven't made all of Tamriel in Skyrim (Beyond Skyrim), yet these guys said they were gonna do it in Starfield?
@RabbitWatchShop
@RabbitWatchShop 2 месяца назад
Wonder if we’ll lose most useful mods when the DLC and vehicle updates drop.
@magickaddict
@magickaddict 3 месяца назад
Three provinces in 3 different planets!
@PixelMurder
@PixelMurder 2 месяца назад
I know how to handle a Creation Kit, but the only reason to release mods for Toddfart would be to troll the so-called fans and trash their save games.
@jamesstone6582
@jamesstone6582 3 месяца назад
British people: "check out this monitor, it has HAYETCH DR capabilities"
@pizzaman6784
@pizzaman6784 3 месяца назад
If this ever comes out, it will take 20 years, so I’m not going to “get hyped” for this.
@alexemann
@alexemann 3 месяца назад
Tamriel Rebuilt is a massive mod like this for Morrowind. They were originally planning on building all of Tamriel in the mod, but they limited their scope down to just the entire province of Morrowind (since the vanilla game takes place only on a large island in the province). They've been working on that for about 20 years, and aren't yet finished. No way is there any chance of bringing 3 different games into the Starfield engine. But if this Starfield thing is true and they did try, they'd probably be able to release it before Fallout 5 comes out.
@veryrare432hz
@veryrare432hz 2 месяца назад
i hope they abandon and do this on tes 6 inbstead
@saltyexxer8253
@saltyexxer8253 3 месяца назад
It didn't even look good on paper.
@lordicyspicy4772
@lordicyspicy4772 2 месяца назад
You should link your sponsor in the description
@carychang510
@carychang510 2 месяца назад
All those 3 games have different styles and assets… biomes, armor, weapons, architecture …
@caiooca5793
@caiooca5793 2 месяца назад
The only way is through a crazy dedicated person OR, with paid Creations. If they manage to monetize it, they can hire people and the project would not be so far fetched. Even then, not a simple task.
@brockly7916
@brockly7916 2 месяца назад
lol won't release until 2077....💀
@Czejenesku
@Czejenesku 2 месяца назад
Lol, Skywind etc are not even close to finished and suddenly this comes
@supermac8619
@supermac8619 2 месяца назад
2:09 Nope, i could've belived it backnin 2018 but here we are in 2024 and i KNOW Bethesda, no WAY the creation engine "2" could handle such ambitions. I doubt Bethesda themselves would even attempt such a feat.
@MemoryPallace
@MemoryPallace 2 месяца назад
I honest to God don’t know how anybody plays this game the point of interest are so far apart from each other and traveling to them is a nightmare. When they had land vehicles people will just figure out that the points of interest start copy and paste inside and out. I spent $100 on this game and it’s not like I don’t like it I hate it. I’ve liked everything from dagger fall to fallout four. There is a reason people hate it.
@mickjayplays
@mickjayplays 3 месяца назад
Too ambitious. Considering that Starfield can't even exist without the massive amount of cells just in a single solar system due to the spaghetti code engine's limitations...I don't even think what they're talking about is even possible. It'll be more loading screens than even the original games. No thank you.
@HattaTHEZulZILLA86
@HattaTHEZulZILLA86 2 месяца назад
WHEN will you people ever learn? "if it's too good to be true, it is" I know that's not how the saying actually goes but you know what I mean.
@tarasmigs9114
@tarasmigs9114 3 месяца назад
Anyone else here tracking Wayward Realms?
@moderncreep9385
@moderncreep9385 2 месяца назад
I could see this happening if all the modders that are working on the likes of skyblivion, etc. all shifted over to this one project bringing the assets they have created with them
@CRYOKnox
@CRYOKnox 2 месяца назад
Absolutely fake if this was a true announcement they would have included Fallout 1, 2, BOS, 3, NV, Shelter, 4 and 76 includes... No ambition... That's a joke. If this announcement is true I will personally apologize to the creators...
@SoullessHH
@SoullessHH 2 месяца назад
I love starfield I was expecting Skyrim inside of space and I got what I wanted. The free mods make up for the bugs. One thing I don’t like is the paid mods, like the vulture 7$ for one quest is not a good sign if they continue the trend.
@KeanKennedy
@KeanKennedy 2 месяца назад
In a way it's better if it's a troll. Having done a bit of mod / indie game dev volunteering, I would never touch these huge game port projects, they seem lose lose. Chances of them succeeding are very low, and if you do succeed it'll take so long that it becomes irrelevant because all you've done is port a game from a really old engine to a slightly less old one. If you volunteer and don't bail like most, you get stuck in some sunken cost fallacy mentality that eats up thousands of hours of your life before you find out which way it'll fizzle out. And in the end you can't even say you own any rights or have a body of creative work you can use in a portfolio. I don't think you'll even get much recognition because people will just see the artistic vision as being from the original game. All this said it is quite fun to be in a group working on game content... but I'd recommend something with a better chance of some kind of success.
@fernfleites2956
@fernfleites2956 3 месяца назад
YEA THEY LOST ME ON FO 76, IM SICK & TIRED OF 70$+ FOR A HALF ASS GAMES FULL OF BS PROMISES MICRO TRANSACTIONS, BUG FIXES MONTHS LATER, SO YEA TODD PLEASE RETIRE EARLY SO GAMES PEOPLE WANT GET DONT, YOU WHERE A HERO FOR SKYRIM, BUT NOW YOU SEEM LIKE A ONE TRICK PONY, TRYING TO RELIVE YOUR GLORY DAYS
@wasteexplorer1133
@wasteexplorer1133 3 месяца назад
Dude go take your meds or something… it’s not worth being this angry over games… if you don’t like it anymore either voice yourself in a healthy manner or just leave for the betterment of your mental health… hope you have a better rest of your day internet stranger
@robertrose1021
@robertrose1021 2 месяца назад
They shouldn't remake the old games, but they should rebuild the system that Tamriel is in so that you can land on the planet
@Biomancy
@Biomancy 3 месяца назад
Elder Scrolls VI will probably come out before this anyway
@veryrare432hz
@veryrare432hz 2 месяца назад
we all know starfield dont have fans
@PensFan35
@PensFan35 3 месяца назад
I got trolled by buying starfield and playing it, actually.
@raze-3322
@raze-3322 3 месяца назад
Brotha is still stuck in 2023 typing these jokes 💀
@EnragedTofu
@EnragedTofu 3 месяца назад
Same, brother, same 🥲
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 3 месяца назад
Bruh
@saltyexxer8253
@saltyexxer8253 3 месяца назад
​@@raze-3322 He's not wrong though.
@nufinul
@nufinul 2 месяца назад
I almost fell into that trap, but bought No Man's Sky on sale instead. Best decision ever. I do believe that one day Starfield can become an exceptional game. I just don't like how it's merely a ripoff right now.
@squidofcheeses8275
@squidofcheeses8275 3 месяца назад
I think it'd be cool even to have like a Tavern or player home from Skyrim brought in as a mod though, or like someone could add singing bards with lutes for our ships, lol. But to try to imagine all of Tamriel being brought to Starfield is crazy to me as well ahaha. Great video Lone! Thank you. Hope you are well.
@mustafarahimi1012
@mustafarahimi1012 2 месяца назад
Will the Skyrim scale be more massive
@gentugo
@gentugo 3 месяца назад
Anyone who thought that project was real is pretty gullible. The description itself is the clue that this was a fake.
@EDclave-5
@EDclave-5 3 месяца назад
I was expecting other projects this isn't one of them
@kyriosmalaka2312
@kyriosmalaka2312 3 месяца назад
If this is real, you probably won't really need an entire planet. Bethesda has always made crater sized games. That's why Skyrim in space was insane, as is expecting that modders can fill up the void with walk-about content.
@baconation2637
@baconation2637 3 месяца назад
There are already massive projects to do this on a standalone basis in various versions of the engine. They take 8+ years and some are not even done yet, see Skywind. This sort of thing is just an attempt to scam donations or some other monetization.
@Babaroi
@Babaroi 3 месяца назад
Does it really sound awesome? I don't really think Jetpacks and Laserweapons would add much to the Elderscrolls universe
@eboethrasher
@eboethrasher 3 месяца назад
What if you had to, like Star Trek, respect the local environment?
@BigDubinsky
@BigDubinsky 3 месяца назад
I mean its a single player game, you can play how you like
@t4ngo_kilo
@t4ngo_kilo 2 месяца назад
I’ve been loving Starfield again, the mods are making it so so good.
@infinitywulf
@infinitywulf 3 месяца назад
While I'd hope this is actually going to happen, the way I'd believe this would be say if the Beyond Skyrim/Skyblivion team (or a large part of them) was doing this and was able to pull in their previous work to use to port it over in a way. With the ambition and the lack of details... Yeah. Kinda skeptical.
@TheCephalus
@TheCephalus 2 месяца назад
modder here, this is a bunch of baloney and it's impossible because the limited amount of formid's the engine can handle.
@TheCephalus
@TheCephalus 2 месяца назад
to elaborate, many of the large modding projects we do are possible because we are REPLACING existing assets and are not adding completely new forms. there is a hard-cap on how much the engine can handle.
@knowledgegaming8437
@knowledgegaming8437 2 месяца назад
I just don't think it's a good idea. I mean the games are huge alone. And I'm shore it would take away something from each individual game.
@iakeemvassilopanagos4572
@iakeemvassilopanagos4572 2 месяца назад
Have none of you ever heard of an ambitious idea I’m sure Starfield sounded “fake” too when Todd Howard & BGS initially pitched it 🤯 I hope everyone’s negativity & doubt actually fuels the creation of this project also can we refrain from using accusations like “fake” I mean its not like this is a commercial product they’re pushing its a mod / fan art / labor of love so an analysis on whether this is real or not… weird coming from another content creator we all know even the “real” projects like F4NV could stop development tomorrow does that make them “fake” even with everything they’ve shared & how happy they already made people like me?? I don’t mean to be overly critical but I think this video misses the mark…
@heztorm
@heztorm 3 месяца назад
After finishing the game, they are planning to go to the Moon, then Mars, and so on
@kyriosmalaka2312
@kyriosmalaka2312 3 месяца назад
Twin Moons DLC
@chaningdodson4245
@chaningdodson4245 3 месяца назад
Loool the elder scrolls 6 would be out by the time this project was even HALF way done🤣🤣🤣
@WastedPot
@WastedPot 3 месяца назад
Seems like a meme but fresh off a Tale of Two Wastelands playthrough I'd give it a go. Initially I got Starfield on my XSX before I rolled it off a cliff and acquired a pc instead, life is so much better. I'd have to repurchase Starfield at this point which why I don't currently own a copy but I'd pay out for one simply to admire the spectacle of a mod like this.
@antigog318
@antigog318 2 месяца назад
You've made me sad bro. ;( j/k I did fall for it tho. ...It sounds awesome as heck!
@korruptwisdom8688
@korruptwisdom8688 3 месяца назад
Could someone create the shell of a elder scroll or fallout world (no quest npcs etc.) Just landscapes?
@glenwatson8185
@glenwatson8185 3 месяца назад
Are they going to add gore
@demonletsplays
@demonletsplays 2 месяца назад
Just go play the respected games like it was intended 🙄
@TakaChan569
@TakaChan569 3 месяца назад
Who tf thought this was ever gonna be real...I mean hell i wouldn't even trust beth to do it and even if it was real it would take so long we would have Starfield 3 by then lol. I'm sure some have fell for this already lol.
@eboethrasher
@eboethrasher 3 месяца назад
I had actually thought about this as an idea previous to Starfield coming out, about how cool of an idea it would be to have Tamriel and Fallout Earth as planets to visit. No main questlines or anything, just radiant quests and maybe a guild or something like that. I posted about it on comments in multiple places.
@postalbear3695
@postalbear3695 3 месяца назад
Seriously it's just a post anybody could write it.
@eboethrasher
@eboethrasher 3 месяца назад
Honestly, I thought that this AND a Fallout world would be things that would end up in the game. Not the games, but the worlds, with different questlines. Because there is no way you would be the Dovakiin. Just put in radiant quests. Maybe let you join guilds. It would work, you just can't include the main questlines. Limit it. Also, these people are putting it out there that it is an idea. Asking for people. Every project has to start at a point like this, pie in the sky, with ideas. They are trying to start discussion. I don't think discussion is a bad thing. He's asking for people to help. What if he really wants to do it? How do you know he's making fun of them? I try to be hopeful about such things. I want to see the good in such things, I guess.
@user-jh1jt9lo7i
@user-jh1jt9lo7i 3 месяца назад
why port a game into another game, it makes no sense just play skyrim ffs
@eboethrasher
@eboethrasher 3 месяца назад
@@user-jh1jt9lo7i Because, if you have a Bethesda game that is supposedly the entire universe, wouldn't it make sense that Nirn, with all of Tamriel, would be one of those planets? That's all part of the Bethesda Game Studios universe. So have it be there. It extends the fantasy of everything existing simultaneously on different worlds, and Starfield being the one that binds it all together. I think it's a cool concept to have. Like i said, it doesn't have to be the same quests, and it is better if it is not. Have it be a mission to explore the planet, but to blend in with the people. That way you are doing things there but not as the "hero", as your Starfield character, to explore the planet and report back about the lifeforms and life that you see there. Perhaps you have to retrieve something from the planet. That is what makes it interesting.
@aaronmatthew7862
@aaronmatthew7862 3 месяца назад
Is it possible to use AI for helping?
@tom2gunzbombadil689
@tom2gunzbombadil689 3 месяца назад
Sky out New blivion 76 would be lit af
@Juan_Dominguez
@Juan_Dominguez 3 месяца назад
There is no way this is real lol
@wikwayer
@wikwayer 3 месяца назад
Imagine playing starfileld when cyber punk exists
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 3 месяца назад
Interesting , Thank You .
@beverlynchampion-xw1nx
@beverlynchampion-xw1nx 2 месяца назад
PC gamers love to troll people 😂😂😂
@marktaylor6553
@marktaylor6553 3 месяца назад
Fallout NV in FO4 mod died because Bethesda stole the two leads off the team. Bethesda will never allow modders to out-do them... even though they do, every single day.
@waelse1
@waelse1 2 месяца назад
Yeah, totally fake.
@oobermackn
@oobermackn 2 месяца назад
Now they stopped production cause yall suck thanks everyone.
@VampireNoblesse
@VampireNoblesse 2 месяца назад
Xbox too? please T_T
@cc58721
@cc58721 3 месяца назад
Random comment to show support
@kwest4204
@kwest4204 3 месяца назад
Who tf is starfield?
@DollarManXD
@DollarManXD 2 месяца назад
lmaoooo
@s22993
@s22993 3 месяца назад
This engine is pure garbage. horrible fallout 4 gameplay & terrible cartoon graphics still. wish Bethesda can move on from this shit
@chaserseven2886
@chaserseven2886 3 месяца назад
No they shouldn’t change engines
@tede3589
@tede3589 3 месяца назад
First
@marconihimself
@marconihimself 3 месяца назад
Not even a troll, probably some 14 year old thinks he can do it some time when he's not studying for his english tests
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@Chriswsm
@Chriswsm 3 месяца назад
Perhaps someone asked Chat GPT 4 O to create a post promoting a Starfield modders plan for a community to import 3 games set in Tamriel to a new planet.
@shawnadams1965
@shawnadams1965 3 месяца назад
Aaaaaand right before release, Bethesda will release a patch that destroys all their progress.
@jb6748
@jb6748 2 месяца назад
Bethesda is a garbage company. They have used and abused their modding community for decades.
@moderncreep9385
@moderncreep9385 2 месяца назад
😂 truth
@corm7538
@corm7538 3 месяца назад
If this were a real thing in my opinion even 2050 would be early for something like this to come out, in my opinion, this could be something that would become a generational project that the original makers would pass on to their kids who then might be able to release this by the year 2100.
@krta1773
@krta1773 2 месяца назад
How amazing would it be if they forgot about this whole Starfield fiasco, swept it all under the rug never talked about it and devoted all the resources towards TES VI with the priority of hiring back the exact people responsible for Oblivion and Skyrim. But alas, this star torture will go on for the next 5 years, with updates and drama of a game that nobody asked for.
@FreezingToad
@FreezingToad 3 месяца назад
As absolutely sick as it would be to have those three TES games in Starfield, I'm just not buying it. I can hope it's real, but I don't believe it is. RIP.
@unexpectedoutcome
@unexpectedoutcome 3 месяца назад
I think elder scrolls fans were trolled pretty hard as well. i'm not so sure that some of us who are into Starfield are really that into elder scrolls... I think it's kind of amusing, but I'm probably just weird😂
@ragingmonk6080
@ragingmonk6080 2 месяца назад
Some times the trolls inspire creators. Skyblivion is suppose to release in 2025. Might they think to port that mod to Starfield? Not saying they will or should. Simply stating that the troll may make them think about that.
@Evan056
@Evan056 3 месяца назад
Not to quash people's creativity (within reason, obviously this seems fake, lol) but it seems more reasonable for someone to make specific cities from each game on specific planets, not as a 1:1, but as a spritual expansion of the cities and the surrounding area generated across a planet. Like an expanded Whiterun, with a faithful core and new outskirts, and the rest of the planet is set to generate the landscape around the city, complete with roaming giants, mammoths, etc...
@RHaenJarr
@RHaenJarr 2 месяца назад
Way smaller projects struggle to ever get done. I wonder if gaming as we know it will even still exist when Skywind is done.
@richtravis9562
@richtravis9562 2 месяца назад
Pelinal Whitestrake was a killer robot from the future (starfield) so it DOES make sense.
@mrslinkey2819
@mrslinkey2819 3 месяца назад
P.S I was one of the people who got trolled and tagged LONE 😂😂😂😂
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 3 месяца назад
Nooooo I'm sorry 😂
@mrslinkey2819
@mrslinkey2819 3 месяца назад
@@LoneVaultWanderer 😂😂😂
@nemerly_00
@nemerly_00 2 месяца назад
If true, this project will probably release before The Elders Scrolls VI
@thechosen_png
@thechosen_png 2 месяца назад
I'm glad we have people like Johnny to debunk fake modding projects. You're doing the modding lords work, Lone.
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 2 месяца назад
🫡
@AkeenFreysAndracos
@AkeenFreysAndracos 2 месяца назад
There was an april fool post similar to this fron the creators of skyblivion
@davegordon8602
@davegordon8602 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the reality check. Haven’t seen much of you lately, deep back into fallout 76?
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 2 месяца назад
Nah mate I don't really play 76 anymore. We are about to move again so have been preparing for that
@chrishancock5686
@chrishancock5686 2 месяца назад
Just wondering, where you been? I remember you saying in a video that you were gunna be doing youtube fulltime but you havent been uploading much
@LoneVaultWanderer
@LoneVaultWanderer 2 месяца назад
Been dealing with a lot and we are also moving again this weekend. Hoping to upload consistently again once we're moved :)
@UrbanSasquatch
@UrbanSasquatch 3 месяца назад
If this is real, what is more likely to come first… this or tes 6?
@skrymebruh1401
@skrymebruh1401 3 месяца назад
Didnt know starfield had fans
@conandrake444
@conandrake444 3 месяца назад
Ah yes Tamriel into Starfield sure. And why not getting Half-Life 3 next year ? ^^
@matthewal9545
@matthewal9545 3 месяца назад
doing a beyond skyrim like project would be a lot more doable. Tbh i would just make the overworld and just release that first. No interiors. Then go from there. Make individual modules for quest expansion and what not.
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