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Starfleet’s USS Antares - 32nd Century Ship from Star Trek: Discovery 

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Let’s take a look at the 32nd century Federation starship the USS Antares.
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@malloryemclaren
@malloryemclaren 3 месяца назад
I really like the Antares’s design, based on what I’ve seen.
@bcluett1697
@bcluett1697 3 месяца назад
The assessment of the plating stands for me as well. It would be more interesting if it had a futuristic sheen or something. There's no reason to use "plating" when you probably grow the thing from programmable matter or something. It would be placed together at the molecular level not bolted or welded like plating from the 23rd century ships from the first episodes of Discovery. It's nice that it's compact and not stretched out like the other saucer ship. In general I always thought the negative space was to reflect scarcity and only using the parts most neccessary for use since they had so few ships and seemed to have trouble getting resources (which I still find amazingly strange given how much of the galaxy is probably unclaimed). So if they are in a state of scarcity it seems to make sense they have so few crew they don't need the space of a bigger ship to be filled out but maybe they need the size to accomodate the powerful alternate warp systems and the safeties etc. If you only have a few ships I guess they need to be packed with everything you can to be resiliant enough to make it back in a hostile galaxy and not constantly running back to reconfigure or repair systems.
@baystated
@baystated 3 месяца назад
Even the TNG ships have mind boggling "floor" and "ceiling" windows on saucers. Not the angled ones we see in the officer's quarters. Windows that are almost flat/horizontal. Just look at the middle-saucer innermost ring of windows on the top of the USS Aquila 10:08
@weirdkitty07
@weirdkitty07 3 месяца назад
The bottle opener ship's nacelles and the keyhole hubcap ship. Make the middle hole bigger and it's a manhole cover. Or a toilet seat.
@TrentonBennett
@TrentonBennett 3 месяца назад
Your post is hilarious.
@linz8291
@linz8291 3 месяца назад
This ship is really cool when torpedo launcher active on the space travel, large saucer hull much more similar to traditional starship types. 32nd century types of ships are more atmospheric style than previous time, so glad to know Antares as her name. Perhaps inner space delivering systems and personal transporter need to mentioned, in particular this ship would traveling to Antares - the most popular interstellar stations between milky way and Andromeda galaxy. Thanks, keep up this good work.
@BobzeMovie
@BobzeMovie 3 месяца назад
The Antares in recent episodes is actually the ship that's sold me on 32nd century designs! Love it!
@Sturmvapor
@Sturmvapor 3 месяца назад
Great Video Guys! I think you guys might be missing the point here. Now I am not a fan of DISCO aesthetic, but as a conceptual designer myself (Atolm), I understand completely what DISCO is trying to present to us visually. The Ships in the show are from the 32nd century... Let that sink in a moment. 32nd Century. Our minds would not be able to actually comprehend what that level of technology and design would actually look like... the only reasons for the inclusion of a saucer and nacelles in the first place is to have a visual que for the viewer to associate with. Does it work? No, of course not. That is because after Voyager the designs for Trek all fell backward rather than push forward. Look at Picard's vessels... They ultimately reverted to a neoTMP condition, just because the show runners liked that era. So instead of doing something new and progress the design aesthetic further forward, they opted to go backward. In reality the tech levels of TOS are so far ahead of us, that it is insane, let alone by TNG! So how do you go from there? The 32nd Century Earth starships are much more conducive to a radical departure visually, than the Starfleet Vessels... The "lights on the Federation vessels are most likely not windows as you have alluded to , they would not need to have windows proper at all...they use programmable matter... or the hull may have a hull skin type that allows you to see out, but not see in from the outside, unless in key sections or something. The point is that the whole form dictates function would only need apply in parts that require it, and obviously by the 32nd Century that does not seem to apply to hull design anymore. The proof is starfleet headquarters itself. You cannot apply the design language of previous older designs to far future ones. Just look at aircraft design history, or seagoing vessel design history... Look how they are designed now vs how they were in antiquity? And that is only a few centuries... Just my two cents on the subject from a conceptualist. Live long and Prosper mates :D
@martinjrgensen8234
@martinjrgensen8234 3 месяца назад
Disco is almost embarrassed about their ships, considering how much they go out of their way not to see them properly
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 месяца назад
More blur! More flares! More make everything look blue and have it all blend together! More shakiness!
@axelhopfinger533
@axelhopfinger533 3 месяца назад
And rightfully so! it has some of the very worst ship designs ever witnessed on screen. Especially all the super weird 32nd century ones which just look like some wonky AI designed them.
@marleymcleay9228
@marleymcleay9228 3 месяца назад
U.S.S Thant kit bash. I do like this.
@DavidChilson
@DavidChilson 3 месяца назад
Starfleet's always gotta have a Hathaway/Stargazer like Fast Cruiser in their Garage, lol. The Disco Season 1 & 2 version was the USS Buran I think?
@weirdkitty07
@weirdkitty07 3 месяца назад
It literally looks like a hubcap rim off a 21st century motorcycle.
@HerrBrisby
@HerrBrisby 3 месяца назад
It looks okay, but it's just the letter C with warp nacelles. ;) I mean, I can understand that ship design 900 years into the future probably is very different from what we are familiar with. I wonder what the size of the Antares is. If all those lights are windows, it must be huge.
@carter1701
@carter1701 3 месяца назад
This is just more proof that the current showrunners and writers don’t get Trek at all. The ships should be a marvel to behold, but this is just plain unimaginative.
@leeharris7727
@leeharris7727 2 месяца назад
It’s not like Star Trek to utilize a bit of kitbashing! Would be brilliant if it was better detailed though. And like others I’m not too keen on the detached nacelles.
@gregoryfloriolli9031
@gregoryfloriolli9031 3 месяца назад
There’s no thought put into any of these designs. They just do whatever they think looks cool and most of the time the designs don’t look cool. What’s the point of the cut out? There is none. How about if you have floating nacelles, you put a floating sphere in that cut out that can be something that gets swapped out for various missions. Maybe one can be a weapons pod, another might be sensor pod, another could be a drone swarm pod. Whatever, just put 2 minutes of thought and creativity into this.
@spacethingreckoning5114
@spacethingreckoning5114 3 месяца назад
I think what this review and other reviews of ships of this era highlights is the desperate need for literally any Discovery media to actually flesh out the ship design of this era. There's basically nothing to talk about because it's all meaningless shapes. I think folks would be a lot more amicable towards the designs if we were actually told/shown what these things did and were able to parse out the design language a little more. Like okay there's no phaser strips, knowing about programmable matter I can buy that fixed strips are no longer required, so I can roll with it. But what's there in it's place? Where does the programmable matter come out from? What are the triangle bits on the front of the ship? How are the floating nacelles bound to the ship and why? I wish they would actually treat this like a new era of trek.
@danielcraig9666
@danielcraig9666 3 месяца назад
It highlights how bad Discovery is.
@spacethingreckoning5114
@spacethingreckoning5114 3 месяца назад
@@danielcraig9666 it's really not the worst thing ever, just half-baked. Discovery's only real sin is just kinda being bland, short, and taking itself too seriously. When the show takes the time to write self-contained stories making use of its cast it can actually be great. There's great ideas here that are all so crammed into 10 episodes with a rigid adherence to a serious tone. With more world building episodes, and more diverse episode types in general, it definitely could have shone.
@danielcraig9666
@danielcraig9666 3 месяца назад
@@spacethingreckoning5114 It's biggest sin is breaking all continuity.
@ah7910
@ah7910 3 месяца назад
@@spacethingreckoning5114 Discovery may take it’s feelings too seriously, but I WISH it could take it’s design, continuity and logic too seriously! It’s a trash show and essentially de-evolving into fantasy. I am gay, as much as I like representation and diversity, nothing else good as come out of NuTrek - the producers don’t care, the designers aren’t talented and are straitjacketed regardless of their talent. They don’t care why the nacelles aren’t connected - that’s just not the kind of show they feel they are writing. It’s not Star Trek - it just isn’t.
@SorenNido
@SorenNido 3 месяца назад
It's pronounced A-ki-la, not A-kui-la. Also the Cheyenne-class is *the* best four-nacelle design, and you cannot change my mind.
@JohnWayne119
@JohnWayne119 3 месяца назад
So weird that they knew and accepted the fans wanted to see more ships so season 4 gave us tracking shots and fly by’s but season 5, nothing lol
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 месяца назад
The nacelles kind of look like a Stanley knife.
@linz8291
@linz8291 Месяц назад
If the new Sol starfleet members has established new space projects to Antares system in the 32nd century or beyond, how many members would like to join?
@TrentonBennett
@TrentonBennett 3 месяца назад
That's the problem with ships from Discovery. They lost the um...will I guess to properly design a ship like Voyager or the Defiant. Grant in Picard we saw a lot of ST O ships made cannon but then we saw Sovereign's and Defiant's. The Stargazer, Titan-A and the Enterprise-F were even better than the 32nd Starfleet ships from Discovery or most of the ships from Discovery. I will say I like the USS Shenzhou a lot but that's like one of the main exceptions. I do like the Discovery/SNW Enterprise but it's still not the same or as beautiful looking as the TOS Connie. In MY opinion. I just never really liked most of the 32nd Century ships from design aesthetics. Yeah even the Wolf 359 ships are better. For the review of the ship it's top notch as usual...just the design of the ship yeah no.
@lostalone1271
@lostalone1271 3 месяца назад
There is an invisible 5th nacelle because why not.
@JD-vh1qd
@JD-vh1qd 3 месяца назад
I am so glad Discovery is coming to an end.
@S1nwar
@S1nwar 3 месяца назад
all space shots in season 5 were pathetic
@jakmrnd
@jakmrnd 3 месяца назад
I haven’t liked a single Starship design in Discovery,Picard, or Strange New Worlds.
@johnsledge3942
@johnsledge3942 3 месяца назад
Damn, that’s surprising, what about Lower Decks? I loved a lot of the ships we saw from LD, Picard, and SNW, even Discovery had a couple designs that I thought were at least passable.
@ah7910
@ah7910 3 месяца назад
Damn John, are you serious? You have really bad taste. Sorry. And Lower Decks is faithful to the 90s Trek style so doesn’t count. The original clearly said ‘Discovery, Picard and Strange New Worlds’ and you completely dismissed their comment! Those shows have horrible dark shiny grey hulls, everything looks dirty and depressing, the designs are ugly, I think anybody who likes them is a bit of a strange person.
@johnsledge3942
@johnsledge3942 3 месяца назад
@@ah7910 Okay. Good lord I have so much to say in response to this. “You have really bad taste. Sorry.” So let me get this straight, if someone likes something you don’t it’s automatically “bad taste?” Loads of people have loved designs from the new shows including two people from the channel you’re watching right now! Foley and Cockings have both praised numerous designs, and I think rightfully so. There’s some damn good ones. And no, you aren’t “sorry” at all lmao. Get off your high horse and let people have their opinions. “And Lower Decks is faithful to the 90s Trek style so doesn't count.” Huh? That’s uh. That’s exactly my point? I’m giving an example of a show that has had excellent ship design in recent years. Did you somehow miss the first part of my comment where I said “that’s surprising, what about lower decks?” I was asking the original commenter what their opinion on the ships in that show is. And PLEASE I implore you, do explain, how did I “completely dismiss there entire comment”? I legitimately do not understand that at all. I asked them a question regarding the subject matter of their comment then gave my perspective on it. How is that dismissive? If anything you were the dismissive one towards my comment since you clearly didn’t comprehend it and jumped to name calling lmfao. “Those shows have horrible dark shiny grey hulls, everything looks dirty and depressing, the designs are ugly, I think anybody who likes them is a bit of a strange person.” I agree the dark and shiny isn’t the best, but we’re talking ship designs here, not necessarily how they were rendered. Also, in Picard season 3 there were LOADS of ships without shiny dark hulls. In fact hardly any at all had shiny hulls… The show was just rendered dark. For ship classes in Picard S3 we have: - Akira - Akita - Sovereign - Sutherland - Steamrunner - Defiant - Edison - Echelon - Excelsior II - Galaxy - Constitution III - Duderstadt - Gagarin - Inquiry (with the better deflector and lighter hull) - Luna - Nova - Odyssey - Pathfinder - Reliant - Ross - Sagan - Intrepid - Sutherland - Constitution original - Constitution Refit - Klingon Bird of Prey - Romulan Bird of Prey - Miranda - Nebula - Excelsior - Constellation - Saber I think a grand total of like 2 or maybe 3 of these have dark reflective hulls… There were like 40+ ship designs used in Star Trek Picard S3, many of which are from old trek… and this person STILL didn’t like a single design? I personally find that shocking, and at that point they’re just being cynical. Even if we just look at the completely new designs for S3, I think the Sagan class and brighter-hulled Inquiry look AMAZING, as does the Elios and others. Again, I do wish the current Trek CGI didn’t use reflective surfaces as much… But yknow what? I also don’t like how DS9 and Voyager CGI is at 480p and looks like a 90s computer game. I don’t like how TOS remastered messed up a lot of shots from the original. I don’t like how Star Trek V’s CGI looks like it was made by a high schooler. Trek CGI for ships has never been perfect. “I think anyone who likes them is a strange person” Huh. So if someone simply prefers their ships from a fictional TV show be slightly darker that’s enough for you to judge them as a “strange person?” I don’t tent to judge people based on such relatively meaningless opinions on fiction… I really don’t like a lot of Discovery’s ship designs for the most part either, but I’ve met some people who love them and more power to ‘em! So to wrap it all up: let people have their opinions man… Not everyone who disagrees with you has “bad taste.” Infinite diversity in infinite combinations 🖖
@KevinWebb
@KevinWebb 3 месяца назад
I will never understand floating nacelles. How is it better? It's just more complication and room for critical failure without any benefit.
@JD-vh1qd
@JD-vh1qd 3 месяца назад
The ships are just lazy thoughtless boring shapes. The nacelles remind me of the bowl movement I had this morning.
@foxpianocovers
@foxpianocovers 3 месяца назад
They never really like you to get too good a look, eh?
@RuSrsbro
@RuSrsbro 3 месяца назад
Wish we got a chance to see more of her
@hogfry
@hogfry 3 месяца назад
I am always happy for new Star Trek content. But I DEEPLY dislike 32nd century ship design. Starfleet ships held together with WiFi is just SO dumb looking. And if i was targeting a UFP ship id just use my tractor beam and steal their warp coils every fight. Then call them on the view screen and laugh and laugh and laugh at their stupid bluetooth space ships as I flew away.
@IRJOE5
@IRJOE5 3 месяца назад
All of the discovery based designs have no feeling, no passion.... they are boring and completely forgettable
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 3 месяца назад
Like the rest of Discovery. In my opinion. They've had 5 seasons and I still don't really care for it. I've just accepted it as generic sci-fi with Trek branding at this point.
@IRJOE5
@IRJOE5 3 месяца назад
@@TalesOfWar I stopped watching after the second season and canceled my home TV cable 😅
@QseftJohn
@QseftJohn 3 месяца назад
I don't like these ships with unattached parts, lore wise it screams technological arrogance. Design wise they look ugly as a physical model.
@ImmortalTreknique
@ImmortalTreknique 3 месяца назад
Agreed
@JoelNekritz-te3gl
@JoelNekritz-te3gl 3 месяца назад
Seriously, it’s the most ridiculous future tech yet. 🙄 “Go to Warp!” *watches all nacelles shoot off into the distance* “Hello, Starfleet Spaceside Assistance? Yeah, we need a tow, again.”
@btbcc12859
@btbcc12859 3 месяца назад
Also a lot of wasted space by all of those unnecessary cut outs
@TheDogGeneral
@TheDogGeneral 3 месяца назад
It is however technology and chained just as Doug Drexler described it with Stewart and Sam that's where the new writing staff got the idea for Bluetooth in the nacelle lol but it's a visual Touchstone and departure it's something that these new writers and Artisans want to conceptualize on because it's something that hasn't been explored. Also is futuristic to say well they figured it out but me personally I wouldn't want mine nacelles detached I would want them to be attached but on the other hand its technology evolving in a non-linear capacity and that's where they're going.
@QseftJohn
@QseftJohn 3 месяца назад
@@TheDogGeneral The way warp technology works is that plasma is energized from the warp core and pumped into the nacelles to create a warp bubble, we know this is still the case, since dilithium is still used. So the future disco ships are designed as if they disconnected the steam pipes connecting a nuclear reactor to the steam turbines. wireless charging technology is very inefficient compared to wired technology, and doesn't scale up. To have the warp engines disconnected to the warp core is a waste of precious energy.
@Capronice
@Capronice 2 месяца назад
I think the ships are ugly show no imagination. Its lazy. I would think nacelles should be getting smaller and smaller as technology advances
@timothycantor4488
@timothycantor4488 3 месяца назад
That show is just so bad
@ah7910
@ah7910 3 месяца назад
I love your work BUT how ridiculous that we’re dedicating a video analysis on designs that we can’t even SEE clearly. Discovery production doesn’t care enough to ever show their work clearly, no surprise that the fans feel indifferent to them. How are we meant to care, if they don’t?
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